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Sorry N B it was suppossed to be a reply to x123581321. I accidentally replied to yours.
yeah I noticed that. you lost $800 and your're complaining? HAHA. I wish I just lost $800. Also, this aint a loss just yet. it's only a loss when you sell. Everything is just a paper loss.
You never know what could happen. ANything is possible. I'm holding since it's pointless to sell now. LEt's just pray to the trading gods that something good happens here.
i don't see why anyone would sell here. it costs say $5 at the cheapest to trade. So what, you get $17 out of the deal.
someone must have bought shares at 3.00 a pop. haha. sweet move.
Well we ticked up. HAHA. Not sure how the hell that happened. Just made another dollar though. Wohoo.
Listen I'm not stupid, as I've made plenty of great trades in my time. Yes, I made the wrong choice here and kept averaging down over time. My average was down to .0005 before the R/S. SO there was a possibility of easily doubling my money if something good happened.
I agree that this was most likely a large loss and JD took us for a ride. It's the last time he'll get the chance to though.
Not selling my shares till the end of the year though. Makes no sense at this point. I'll take the loss end of the year if I need to for tax purposes. Otherwise I'll let it ride through 2011 and see what happens.
Listen everyone. Remember all the knuckle heads that posted here and told us that we all got screwed and the R/S wiped us out. Well they were wrong like I had said.
We all got our 100 shares even if you had less than 10 million before the R/S. So JD didn't lie to me about that.
Honestly the price we're seeing now is not a valid price JD said. It's not really even trading at this point. It never even opened at $10 with an ask if you recall. So right now things are still transitioning over. If it was why would we still see SYMW out there.
JD said give it time. He didn't say anything about the opening price or what would happen, but he did say stay patient and you'll get your 100 shares.
So stop listening to all the idiots who claim they know, cause they don't. Now I'm not saying anything good is going to happen, but I can say that if JD does turn out to be legit (1:1,000,000 Chance), then we're going to get paid. i say this because for 1 year he told me that a R/S was only going to happen when the time was right and things were becoming more "baked" than they were in the past.
So who the hell knows what we can expect here. Stand strong and let's wait it out. All i know is I had 9 mill or something like that and I know have 100 shares.
Yeah that's true, but shares could be limited based on the fact that he has to provide shares to people who won't have 100 at minimum too remember. If that holds true, and the AS is reduced and the 50% of Floating shares are distrubuted out to those who need to be at 100 minimum, there may not be enough to re issue back to himself.
That's probably not the case, but some food for thought.
NOpe. he hasn't returned my calls or emails. To be honest there's two ways to look at this. Either he's not answering because he has something up his sleeve and he wants to see who the true believers are, or he has nothing and doesn't want to answer to any of us.
He told me a few times in the past that he would only do a RS if there was a reason behind it. HE said otherwise it was pointless. Keep in mind he owns and has to hold about 70% or more of the shares. So he's only hurting himself by reducing the AS and then having the price fall.
I don't think it can hold $10 after the RS unless something good is happening. Otherwise we'll drop. For me I'm not worried, if it tanks from $10 to $5 before I can sell I lose half of what I have now. IT's almost worthless anyhow so what's the difference.
Come on JD surprise us with something. We'll know next week if there's anything.
can someone create the petition then? Or a facebook page for others to sign? I'm not sure how. Thanks
For those of you want me to relax and not pursue some legal action because of 1-3k, well then I guess you don't have as much invested first off. The figure I have invested is a 5 figure investment. Secondly, it's not just about the money but the fact that JD has constantly lied to me.
More than once he told me a R/S was not in the cards for a long time ahead. Progress on the fuel cell was his first concern. Secondly, the company made all these promises which they never lived up to. If I don't get my 100 shares as promised, at a rate equivilant to the price now, times 100,000, then I will pursue some kind of case. What exactly I don't know. However, having an attorney at my side for a very low cost because of the people I know makes this a whole lot easier.
JD, if you don't clear things up with a better PR, update the public on what's going on with your so called Fuel Cell, then I'll work my ass off to get a signed petition from everyone on this board, then pursue some answers from you and your so called company. You failed to return my last two calls, and failed to deliver any of what you promised. Your PRs are vague, don't explain anything, and you have wasted our time and money. THe years have gone by where you've made your money by stealing from the shareholders, and now the time has come for pay back.
Anyone know how to make an electronic petition so we can start this process? Let's not let JD walk all over us and not fight back. He STOLE our money due to the fact he has yet to answer anyone's questions about this last PR. No one knows what's going on, and he thinks he'll get away with it.
Why is everyone talking about being hosed if you own less than 10 million shares. I can tell you one thing. The PR stated that after the RS the shareholders hold a minimum of 100 shares. Pink or Nasdaq, RS means the same thing. Don't listen to all those who claim differently.
It doesn't take a genius to know that the stock price will be what it is now times 100,000, unless there's some loop hole that allows the company to set a lower price after RS. Now that wouldn't be LEGALLY fair, and I don't see the SEC allowing for this. You can't just reduce shares and leave the price the same if you're declaring a RS of 1:100000.
Why do we get wiped out? Someone explain their theory behind this. Makes 0 sense. If I don't see $10/share, and 100 Shares, then I'm pressing charges against Sympowerco for falsly disclaiming information and not following up with a correction within 24 hours of it's release. I'm having my attorney look into this now. FYI, #1 Largest criminal attorney in New England referral.
well guys, whatever is going on there happens to be a large amount of buys starting to come in. people must beleive the RS is going to be a good thing. This of course shrinks the huge float tremendously. Could be JD buying shares back as well.
Either way we haven't see this much activity on the buy side for a while. Also, if this was A BAD THING, wouldn't we see a lot of selling?
someone also tell me if I'm nuts here please. EX:
If someone had say 5,000,000 shares, they would end up with 50 shares after the split since it's 1 share per every 100,000 shares. It also states that each shareholder will get no less than 100 shares post split. So would that person double their position after the split right off the bat???
I'm a bit confused here with this RS they announced. Anyone??
Well this is not a bad thing in some cases. John told me a while back, that he would only perform a RS if he had some things lined up. So this could be the start of some good news.
ORRRR, it's the typical pump and dump, then RS, then tank. I'm in for the long haul and have very little to lose here since I've lost 90% of my position after believing in this for so long. If it RSs and then tanks again oh well. At least it makes it easier to sell for tax purposes.
Let's hope the RS leads to something good though. STand strong and maybe get paid off.
agreed. it won't take much to take down a few MMs, and if you've been watching, they move quick after a few million hit the ask. I'm out of gun powder right now, and have to ride out a few bad penny plays that are waiting on some news to move. As soon as I hit green with them I'll cash to buy more of XHUA. The best looking penny i've seen in a while. Holding her ground nicely.
RRRRR, i didn't feed anyone BS, I was simply going based on the research I was doing, which of course turned out to be poor. JD was telling me one thing, an IR person lying about just about everything, so I had nothing to do but give you what I hear verbatim.
I'm not saying this is Dead 100%, who the hell knows. All I know is JD does in fact indifferent about his stock price and his shareholders at the moment.
I asked about the project and got the same, "we're working on things, and when there is info to provide I'll provide it."
I mean I know these things take a while, but at least give us an update there JD. He's too busy riding his bike around, so it seams. Either way we all made a bad call for the moment. Right now just hold. Check back and hope he's not a BSer and it moves up to say .0010 before the end of the year.
Llsten just hold tight. nothing more to lose, but honestly I'm not sure if JD can even walk. Doesn't sound like he's too young, and doesn't sound like he's doing anything over there everytime you call. I know 4-5 people who have build companies from the ground up and sold them all. those people didn't have a minute to talk because they were focused.
They weren't even publicly traded and they had more updates than JD put out in the last year. JD should have just let the HOSS deal go through so he could sit back and let the HOSs owners update the public. He's not too good at keeping his share holders happey and if he is scamming us, he's not even good at that since he could be getting more people to buy with a simple 5k investment for a good PR to update us all.
HAHA. Jeez JD clean it up.
its not him selling though. he legally can't. trust me he's retarded when it comes to the stock market. I honestly think he doesn't look at things everyday like we do.
Whatever, people in this space who scam people like us, ONE DAY, AND WILL, get caught and busted. It's like selling drugs. How many people you know did it for their whole life and didn't get busted and arrested? NO ONE
update: Just spoke with JD, who was oblivious to everything going on with his company. Either he could care less about shareholders 9which appears to be the case), or he is focused on development and that only. Guessing that's not the case. He sounds like a clueless old man when it comes to the market in general. Had no idea that his website was down until now, and he didn't even notice the 52 million shares dumped today.
His site was hosted with Roy's company, Investsource, and he plans to find a new IR company. However he stated "NO I will not write to the public to tell them that we were not associated directly with Roy and his company". HAHA. I asked him why he wouldn't want to tell the PUBLIC, his sharehodlers what's going on. He may be legit when it comes to wanting to build a fuel cell, but HE HAS NO CLUE ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET ITSELF.
Sorry John you have to see this, but any CEO i know that is CEO for a publically traded company big or small, knows what is going on with his stock and company every minute of the day. You my friend don't have enough time with your second job to keep up I guess.
I emailed JD asking him about his IR person, and what was going on. Nothing back as of yet. usually JD writes back to me. If there's anything I like about him, it's his sincerity about getting back to me.
However, not too sure where this load of crap is going. I mean truthfully I've seen pennies lay dormant for years and then explode, and then I've seen them do nothing. JD is due for some sort of update though that's worth reading. I'm a little skeptical and at this point it doesn't matter who buys or sells, she's not going to move unless JD updates the public with something legit.
JD, I know you read these, and you know who I am. If you're as legit as you claim, why don't you put out an update to defend your position with your IR person. I have my emails gathered together from him claiming your company is due for news, and things are solid. I'm holding these back for the next 45 days. If we don't see any updates from SYMW defending or mentioning anything about this, then I'm sending my emails to the respected people for review.
I could very well have been misled by him, and it would be sad to hear he was pumping your company with nothing to back it up.
For sure. Something is a brewing here. Activity is picking up once again. Looking to add to my position possibly. I have a feeling July may put us back to levels around .0004-.0007. At that point I'll be pretty happy to get my money back and watch to see if she moves any higher.
Well, it's not how much you have, but how much you've made or lost. SYMW has put a huge dent in my wallet. Along with a few others. I've been running into some walls here and there with trades and haven't had a nice hit in a while.
I'm waiting for the DOW to hit 9200. At that point I'm unloading a lot of cash into big companies like Bank of America, Dryships (which has taken a beating and will recover soon), and a few other insurance companies.
we're getting a second change to double our money here with stocks that we don't have to bitch about day in day out like these ones. THink about it.
Don't want to sound cocky, but I could easily do that. Why would you want to though. A few thousand bucks could turn 6 figures. No need to go huge.
Bill sell off today for no reason again. How many on BID right now????
yeah, you're right, but there isn't enough selling to knock those 3 MMs off. No way in hell. It would need another 500 mill to get them all off. There's way to many available shares to do that that easy. I'd rather sell them for nothing, then sell them at .0001.
Listen. Things are definitely looking good. News or no news, the selling has stopped. However, if we keep getting people like you guys that are buying at .0001, then we'll never move her again. It's going to take some serious buying of shares to get her moving, but no one will want to buy if they see all the buying at .0001. They show up as sells to most folks looking at L2.
Do everyone a favor including yourself and buy at the ask. People on these boards crack me up. All they want is a run so they can cash out big profits, yet they cause a slide on price because they try and buy at the bid. You're allowing sellers to sell their shares. Do you expect the price to go up when you're buying shares someone else is selling to you at the bid????? NO. It will go down. next thing you know we'll have a bid at 0000 and you won't even be able to sell your shares if you wanted to.
Please, buy at the ask. I'm going to get yelled at by someone I know, because it happened before. I'm not telling you what to do, I'm simply stating the obvious and ASKING you not to. Just load at .0002. If she runs we're not talking about .0004 or .0006. Most likely .001-.0015 or so. So who cares if you get it at .0001 or .0002. Still huge gains, and you protect your investment from falling to worthless.
Well it's certain that the selloff has stopped. JD can't sell his shares currently, so the only thing here to do is wait for news.
very true. not that its much but 7 mill+ coming through on the ask. there were massive sells going on for months, and over the last few weeks nothing from the sell side.
if JD can get an update out we could see her run up 3-4 ticks no problem. I may look at loading by end of the week if the sells stay low like this.
28's up and being bought. she's going to start a move. let's wack the 28's here folks.
let's do this thing. We can get her past 28 easily. I'm goign to to and free up another 4k or so. need to pick my spots though. Already in at a good price of .0022 so good room to get her going.
well 28's are up. now we need action there to send us flying. Getting some others in here too, so we'll see if we can push her to new support levels.
all my powder is tied up, anyone got any to pound the 27's with? We could start a little volume alert for others out there. get on some boards and brings some attention here. No reason we can't start a move up on no news with the way she trades.
agreed, she's looking like a rocket getting ready to move. good buying pressure, but we need to be buying at the ask. looks ltke the shares available at 26 are being bought up.
well that's a good thing that it won't fill at .0001, because that means that no one is selling on the retail side. buy more than $100 though. Trust me. Go $500 at the ask and get some attention on her.
sorry, we're talking about another board since we got banned for no reason on it. ignore the last few posts.
I spoke with JD though the other day and he still claims he holds all his shares and they are still status quo with everything. We should see some sort of update in the near future about fuel cell progress. still holding my shares tight.
Dew or Z, since I can't post on our other board, what's L2 look like? Also go SYMW, she's got rid of all the sellers and we're now just waiting on magic to happen. I think end of July is a great time for some updates. Come on people start dunking like $200 bucks into her on the hopes that she runs. What's 200 if you can turn it into 4000 or so on just one good PR
Not sure, but its rediculous. Anyone who has valid information is being pulled from the board. Somethign is up there.
GO SYMW. Let's make some ground with pending news on its way. No explaining why or how, but keep your eyes peeling soon for some updates.
those small trades are not retail. they are MMs transferring shares. no one in their right mind would buy $2 worth of stock for $10 trade.
He put out financials? I didn't see them.