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when do you guys think the PR will come out from the board meeting?
Tuesday?
anybody here familiar with smallcapsentinel?
Are they paid by the companies that they release this info on?
could you please explain this post a little more? I dont really understand what you mean here, unless you meant to say bid instead of ask.
IFSL looking strong. Price is building based on anticipation of board meeting on friday at 1pm eastern time. We also got a little slice of news today.
how about interlocking fast install decking?
yes this is anticipation of the board meeting and what they will announce.
Remember when there was all the speculation about the financials coming out? Check the closes for the 4 days before that. .0019,.0021,.0023,.0025
Similar progression here?
I dont think he meant a PR per se. I think he meant more like advertising.
actually if you are looking to grow distribution you better not be selling online. You certainly want them to sell it online, but you never sell direct when trying to grow distribution.
that was quite a shake.
We are dropping here at the close. Lets just hope for news announcing the board meeting and agenda topics. That should spike us.
no buzz. same poster posts same buyout price all over yahoo. Ignore him.
I would dance in the streets. .05 just isnt possible.
You either need fundamentals or flash to back up that price with our O/S count.
We have neither.
I think a penny is where we SHOULD be, maybe even a slight chance to spike to .02. Anyhting above that is a pipe dream.
no problem Wally, I think the discussion is always good. I dont like when people just brush off points. It never hurts to expound on them. Some basher may post a scam alert and a new possible buyer may read it. If the only follow up is everybody calling that guy names, we may lose a buyer.
People can choose to buy or not buy on their own. I just like to have all the info out there. Most people hate that. Most people think that it is bashing.
These boards are for discussion and hopefully good discussion about IFSL. Which dont get me wrong has some flaws. I post those too.
this has already been looked at. I posted the BBB stuff a while back.
Try getting a straight answer out of the vegas BBB about why they have IFSL rated the way they do.
They dont return my calls or my emails that I called them out for not updating the rating after IFSL satisfied two of the three flags that the BBB had on them. Those two were changed and the rating stayed the same.
in the interest of not just writing the bashers off and actually handling their BS objections I would like to say this.
If you google street map the rainbow address, you will see nothing that resembles a supermarket.
Also the rainbow address is just a boardroom corporate location anyway. It is where the board meeting is taking place on Friday. Most of the business goes on at their St. George address.
The BBB has verified that this company functions for the purpose it advertises and that it has a valid license to conduct that business.
Keep in mind too that some people use IFSL and dont even know it. How is that possible you may ask?
Well some companies have marketing agreements with them and buy their services and software, but operate under their own names. For example you could be buying from a company that calls itself Bob's Wealth Management Systems. Well a portion of your money would go to IFSL if Bob had a deal in place with IFSL.
This company also has a call center that they purchase services from. That is why their commissions are so high.
Boiler Room company? No.
Telemarketing Company? Yes. A profitable one.
never thought I would say this, but for once I am happy about those BBB comoplaints.
Kind of hard for people to file complaints against a company that doesnt exist. Lol
Thanks for trying though qstock
MMs taking us for a ride?
How?
How are they driving this up? I would like to hear this explanation.
Are you saying they are the ones placing buying pressure to raise the price, just so they can then dump these shares for cheaper?
You can certainly call and ask the CEO questions, but thinking that a shareholder owes any loyalty to the company first is crazy.
If somebody thinks what we are seeing looks crazy odd and wants to contact the SEC, I encourage them to do it immediately. That is their right to be able to do so. If EXPH is being honest and conducting business ethically, they have nothing to fear.
The SEC stands to gain or lose nothing.
The CEO is biased. This isnt like you think your best friend might be up to something fishy and then you decide to call the cops and later find out you totally misunderstood and caused some unnecessary trouble. Your friend should be open with you and could give you some insight as to what is going on.
JD is not your friend. You dont owe him anything.
I actually for once agree with puckhead.
I think the whole buy at the ask and never sell at the bid talk is highly overrated. When you have the bid at .0036 and the ask at .0037 somebody selling at the bid can only make a .0001 change. That is it. MMs can certainly do some weird things to manipulate, but that is out of our control.
It is almost inarguable. Lets say there is a bidder at .0036 and a seller at .0037 and there is a standoff. So the seller decides to sell at .0036. Price moves to .0036 and then what?
Well if there are no more bidders at .0036 and two more at .0035 the bid will drop. If the bidder at .0036 moved up and bought at .0037 the bid would still drop to .0035 after that sale and you are right where you were.
Without more bidders(buyers) it really doesnt matter.
Bid whackers arent people that want to bring the price down. They are people that want to lock in their gains or seal off their losses immediately and dont want to risk sitting there with their order at the ask.
Weird week for this stock, and weird weeks ahead, IMO.
Full disclosure. I hold zero postion in this stock currently. I sold all of my shares for a slight loss. I had moved on after the 10Q. I received tons of PMs after I had posted saying I was leaving the board and couldnt figure out why people were so interested in sending me messages after I said I was done with this stock and had sold off. Somebody even posted a message on another stock board in here addressed to me.
Ended up looking up the price on my ticker and almost fell out of my chair. So I looked up to see if I could find some news and I read the PR and kinda shook my head. I shook my head for two reasons. #1 because that PR was pure garbage and was a gross misrepresentation and basically just a repeat of 1st QTR. #2 Was because I am an idiot for not seeing it coming and not profiting on it. I should have know that the PR firm would want to boost it, so they could dump their shares, which it tells us right in the filing that they get.
This stock has now become a gambler's paradise.
A few discussion points I would like to bring up and I will again be on my way. I dont feel like getting into arguments with people again, as some people really have no desire to actually read things and learn stuff. They just want to push the positive talking points over and over and silence everything else, no matter how valid it might be. I will always happily engage people via PM if they would like and dont threaten my life.
1. This company is having serious cash flow issues. If you dont think they are, you really need to ask yourself a whole new set of questions.
2. This company is diluting like crazy and has provisions laid out for every one to see that they plan on doing it more and more.
3. This PR company is slick. They will twist information in any way they can. This can actually be an asset if timed right.
4. The football season should bring a slew of very good news.
5. Any investor must now and forever be very curious and skeptical about every move this company makes.
6. This stock will make lots of people rich and lots of people poor.
This stock has many more runs left in it and many more collapses. There will be lots of flashy misleading headlines followed by massive dumps of stock.
I do feel that they have somewhat of a floor built in for a while at .002. I base that off of some of the provisions for dilution. It needs to stay above that level for the company to get access to money via dilution. It will probably dip below it sometimes, but the company cant afford to let it stay there for long.
This will create many opps for people to make tons of money. Just try and read what is put out very clearly. That will help determine how long the runs can be sustained. If you know it is garbage put in an auto sell order at a price you pick. It can be very tough to sell on the way down so dont get greedy. I dont have the time this fall to watch this thing as closely as it will probably need to be watched. But if you do, this thing is almost a dream come true for flippers. Just remember too that eventually the street does catch on to the pumps and it tempers the runs drastically until they are gone. I dont really know when that will be. If i did I would be rich and paying my butler to post on IHUB for me.
Just be careful everybody and know what you own. That 10Q should have put you on full alert going forward. There will certainly be tons of news in the days ahead.
If the next 10Q shows a profit and the O/S count is below 2 billion, yikes, that will be some run.
My loophole has been closed with the TA. I am only able to confirm that as of Friday the A/S is still 1 billion. I am pretty sure somehow the company and them have had a firm conversation since the share structure did get spread around before the 10Q was out.
GL
For any of the guys that were there at the CC did you see any very large wood stores at the location?
think we will get a PR announcing the board meeting and maybe a CC after the fact?
That would set off quite a run, I would think.
we arent at a paenny because they have so many shares out and this is not a glitzy play.
This is a straightforward solid investment that will likely just slowly churn upwards with some spikes here and there.
They will need some flash to get to a penny and hold. But hey, we have a long way to a penny and it should be a nice ride.
if JD says something in a press release or on the phone, does everybody in here consider it a fact?
I am anxious to hear people's opinions on their trust level and their basis for it. I have heard some people say that they liked certain inflections in his voice at the CC. Being a poker player I can respect this as a valid opinion for somebody explaining their trust.
Seems to be a few groups here.
1. those who have absolute faith.
2. those who believe(but are crazy skeptical of all pinkies no matter what, I would put myself in this group)
3. Those who think the CEO is full of crap(probably because they just rule out pinkies from their portfolios arbitrarily and maybe havent even done a lot of research)
4. unfortunately even here we have pumpers and bashers, but this group is small.
I am not asking for responses that link to press releases or that quote the CEO(unless it is maybe the manner in which it was said or to maybe point out body language if you were one of the guys that was there)
I would really like to hear people's gut character reactions.
Does that make sense?
so very helpful. You mean the one in there that doesnt go anywhere?
just curious...
If they dont report to the SEC, would the SEC really be the ones that investigate them?
I have stated many times I flip this stock. I put in GTC buy and sell orders. I have been very successful with them and consider this to be a very safe play for me.
I keep the bulk of my shares long, but I will continue to put in my GTC orders. I like to make money and I want to continue to do so. it is not a ton of money, but it is profit and I pretty much just grab more shares long each time, never increasing the amount I flip.
I like this stock and this company very much. I think that I post very honest info every time I get it whether it be good or bad. I think a few others that I have traded PMs with are maybe trying to follow the same flipping schedule I was and maybe I should not have given out exact details there, but I am happy to hear goofball made some money back as well as some others. I think that in the end this will help us to keep these people around who build a loyal following, in addition to the one we obviously already have.
I will also disclose that I think next week we will start to creep up in anticipation of the board meeting. Lets all just try to be patient and help temper expectations for everybody. I really dont want to see a huge sell off after news comes out because people were expecting too much. The news will be good, lets just make sure people dont think it is going to be out of this world.
Good to hear. When she told me that she couldnt give me the A/S I was not very pleased. Thrilled to hear she just screwed up. Did you yell at her,lol.
Was the O/S number correct that she gave me?
TA is partially gagged. Will not give out the A/S count.
O/S count is now at 982,922,167
I just called a few minutes ago.
Nothing to worry about yet, but I think this needs to be checked now on a pretty regular basis.
i would agree with this.
The real question is how good will it be?
while I agree with him that we should never compliment a company for doing what is expected, I also know that this permit process is going to be lengthy. The fact that the city is already having meetings and has hired an atty before the application has even been filed is pretty telling.
sounds like you guys need me to tell a bunch of people in spanish or polish.
Although my polish is very limited and I dont think they are huge buyers in the market.
are we sure this product will be patented? I have scoured the patent site for anything with north wilkesboro and I can find anything that could be EXPH. I checked both patents issued and patent applications.
Some products cant really be patented.
this finally looks like it is going to happen. Did i read right in that article that the city has hired an attorney to represent it for the coming filing?
That is great news, no?
new here. does the company not have a web site?
that could have been a partial fill of my order then, but I see nothing in my account.
it does not list it as expired yet though either and I dont have the funds.
i had a buy in at the ask that as far as I can see did not get filled.
WTH was that?
absolutely nothing says strong buy right now.
I could see making the argument for a strong buy at .0011 or even a buy at the current levels, but a strong buy is just a pump.
3rd Qtr has the potential to be much better. I think we all agree on that.
However one must consider a few factors when weighing a buy. People can weigh those however they want. That is their choice.
I will say that IF (and it has to be considered a big if) the company's PRs are legit, the difference in growth could be spectacular.
Just understand that is a ways away. If you are comfortable buying and holding a penny stock for a few months that has the potential to be a big hit. Then ARTI is a good candidate.
Just understand the massive short term obstacles. I have sold the rest of position and will not be active on this board until I take another position. I plan on getting some share structure info in a few weeks and will post back those results.
As always do your own research and ALWAYS do research on the people who are posting information that makes you scratch your head.
Also remember, the information I posted was proven to be 100% correct.
GLTA