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If any thinnings have actually happened, has any real tree owner asked to keep there own lumber as worthless as that probably is?
some parts but not the part that the trees are garbage
no care,no workers, no nothing = garbage trees
It's already been verified by more then one tree owner
I would buy some trees owners trees "on the stump" when harvest time comes but being as "real tree owners" have confirmed no tree care, no workers, no farm activity,no tatf office. Even if most of your trees do exist which I highly doubt they are probably low quality/very little value. Improper tree care =low quality
Like I said in other forum, have shares in a timber company or grow your own trees or face this nightmare everytime.
are there even 3000 investors??? all we have is a deceptive con saying there are 3000 investors.
TATF raising prices does not mean they are in good shape!
A company in good shape would respond to investor emails and phone calls! TATF does neither over the last 2 years, how can you call that a well run company? and that has been verfied from many tree owners on here!
For a company that does not return emails/calls I would not take tatfs word!why are they not offering contracts in spanish if english in not valid!
if you are buying trees why have you not responded to 2 tree owners requests to meet up and verify who you are? and that you really are a real investor wanting to buy trees!
yes if tatf was fsc certified it would help greatly and more importantly in the future. Most of the big forest companies here in ontario already are certified. This will affect more then just teak, all wood species.... for me to export softwood from canada to europe some companies are already demanding the wood be fsc or will not buy the wood. I heard home depot is considering that to. But there a problem with that, tatf would have to open up there books to get certied................thats probably why they have not done it.
A1 started all the crap with the other forum
which I believe you paid him off and took his login info along with duped's! Trying to play some games with people but I can see right through them!
WAKE UP PEOPLE
your telling me there was someone here christmas eve from IH that deleted my post not even 5 minutes after I posted it? your lying!
Mr brunner you make me laugh!!
posing as me on another forum you sick twisted f#@k. Why is it that you/happytreeowner/AB/Sbrunner always try to change the subject/wont asnwer someone when someone asks a good question.
I don't know but I think A1 has been bought out, only someone like tatf would delete a good post like that so quick.
Don't try and say you want to open a US office, thats a complete lie. You'd be behind bars faster then your twisted mind can process.
TATF IS A COMPLETE SCAM!!!!
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY GROWING TREES SAVE YOURSELF THE HEADACHE'S AND GROW THEM YOURSELF OR INVEST IN TREES WERE YOU HAVE SHARES OTHERWISE YOUR GOING TO LOSE YOUR MONEY
i'm wondering if A1 has been bought out.
I posted a message how to get rid of the spamming duped on here christmas eve and less then 5 minutes later the message was deleted. Only the modorater could do this in that amount of time.
PROVE IT OR STFU!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SUPPOSED INVESTOR THAT HAS SEEN A RETURN, CAN NOT AND WILL NOT PROVE IT!!!! AND THATS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE SOMETHING THAT IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll prove soon enough who you and duped really are! count on it!
CLICK ON ANY OF DUPED SPAMMING POSTS AND IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER IT SAYS IN RED "report TOS violation"
If anyone who cares about this board reports duped he should be banned for spamming by the sight admin.
Ok what the hell! I just posted how to report duped and get him banned and it got deleted 5 minutes later!!!!
TATF IS GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT AND SEE HOW MANY NEW PEOPLE ARE ON HERE IN THE NEW YEAR!
DUPED PISS OFF YOU ARE GETTING SO ANNOYING
Has anyone called tatf and said I want a my contract changed to spanish?
BS! tatf is knowingly singing contracts that are not legal!
If tatf knows that an english contract is not legal why is the website not changed to a spanish contract? and saying they will change all contracts to spanish?
I'm glad to hear tatf is now being investigated! The truth will come out!
YOU WROTE THOSE MESSAGES YOU LYING SOB NOT PLAN!
EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS BS! LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE!!!!
If tatf was legit I would be worried but i'm not worried becaues tatf is a fraud that will be exposed
this enitire site would be considered slander, but has he done anything? NO! because he is a fraud
YOUTUBE ALL THE WAY!
STEVE YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. If someone posts a video simpy saying we want to hear from other people that have bought trees from tatf that is not slander or hurting tatf!!!!
TATF IS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT HAS HURT TATF!!!!!!!!!!
posting a video to find other people that have not been paid is not slanderous!
YOUTUBE IS SEEN BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!!!!
A great well run company would pay and communicate with its investors!!!!!!!!!!! Not 1 legit ivestor has been paid a dime!!!!!!!And no communication period!
YOUTUBE, spread the word on this BS company!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A WAY TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE DEFRAUDED BY THIS SCUMBAG
post videos on youtube looking for other tatf investors and you will find other people. Thats global reach and its FREE!
DUPED ARE YOU ON CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOTHING IS COMING TO LIGHT BUT YOU BEING A ANNOYING SPAMMER!
BS! FSC CERTIFIED TREE FARMS GET A MUCH HIGHER PREMIUM FOR THERE LUMBER. BUT SOMEONE RUNNING A FRAUD CANNOT GET CERTIFIED. YOUR EXCUSE IS TO BUSY? THATS FUNNY BECAUSE MANY, MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON AT THE FARMS!
ANY CONTRACT CAN BE WRITTEN IN ENGLISH IF BOTH PARTIES UNDERSTAND THE AGREEMENT!!!!!!!!!!STOP THE LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the hell are you talking about DUPED/SPAMMER/STEVE
Most large timber companies that offer shares are FSC certified which is a hell of a lot better then what your BS of a scam company tatf is!
Is TATF FSC certified? NO!!!!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!!!
why might that be???????????????? well for starters you have to be a legit company to get certified with tatf definately is NOT!
Once again investing in growing trees is only smart if you have shares! Owning a tree is worthless especially in another country.
SO KEEP UP THE BS DUPED IT ONLY MAKES TATF LOOK WORSE WHICH IT CAN'T GET MUCH MORE WORSE! WELL UNTIL YOU/TATF COMES CLEAN AND ADMITS WE'VE ALL BEEN TAKEN FOR A RIDE!
Owning trees like with tatf= Asking for trouble
Owning shares in a timber company= security/profit
Shares in a company might only be 4%-10% a year but if you invest in actually trees and lose everything, whats the better deal?
Just like I said. You won't and cant provide proof!
Because there is nothing!nodda! just complete BS!
Why would I/anyone trust you or steve's word? when tatf is clearly a bad company at best but more likely an all out fraud.
If you could back up any claims that might make tatf look better but you can't because there is nothing!
were's some proof of this new equipment? just like every other time I've said prove it I bet you can't produce jack because there isn't anything!
TATF IS A SCAM RUN BY A SICK MAN!
BS! prove it! everything about tatf is total BS.
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES
tatf will not get good price on lumber when there equipment is cheap. Were is this so called new equipment? the only equipment I have seen is cheap equipment.
Quality sawmill= quality lumber
cheap little bandsawmill = garbage lumber
I think a new forum should be created!
Someone that comes on a reg basis and will ban anyone like STEVE or whoever the hell DUPED is!
DUPED this is not a race to see who has the most comments and your not answering peoples questioms! you are spamming the hell out of what was once a good forum!
Did anyone buying trees use a lawyer in CR?
From what I could find a contract can be in any language as long as both parties understand the contract but I also found another site saying just about anything in CR has to be done using a lawyer. Anything from realestate to buying vechicle to renting property
Offering shares in a company is the only way to growing trees.
20-30-40-50 years doesn't matter how long, you have no control/say in anything. Any other way your going to lose your money.
Shares = some control/make a reasonable profit
trees
ownership = get scammed/ lose money
spamming this sight with all your BS isn't going to help steve. One day or another his scheme will come crashing down either by the law or one of the many people he in screwing over.
If your trees do really exist at 20 years sell them and recoup whatever you can
a true plantation needs 35-50 years but this dumbass wouldn't admit that.
NO 1. 5 years isn't going to be enough(if they even exitst)
NO 2. 37% for 5 years is ridicolous!
NO 3. Nobody is going to pay into your fraud!
all your doing is pissing off people with your spamming!
STEVE IS A LAWYWER IS HE NOT?
I'd say the scam has just been exposed by you! no legal contract
STEVE/TATF=
BAD BAD PEOPLE
Steve you just admitted you don't have legal contracts!