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If it's one thing they've been consistent on the last year, is that they aren't setting some super top secret surprise trap.
They will PR the baton pass to the publisher.
Which hasnt happened
It's very discouraging. But really, after all these years, unsurprising
But.... why
Thanks Flip
There has to be a reason for the continued carrot dangle/can kick. I just hope it's legitimate.
Combo trial data, Nature article pub (if it even exists)
Not saying they are waiting for such things definitively, but perhaps it's a possibility
They are postponing for something
What is puzzling is WHY
WHY postpone.
And if you are going to postpone WHY keep throwing out bogus timelines and expectations.
IMO they knew for a FACT they would not meet the Mid October submission date, just as they knew for a FACT they wouldn't have TLD available to be published in September 2020 when they stated it multiple times that year summer.
Just as I now believe they know for a FACT they won't have submission in November.
The burning question is WHY. Why all the BS.
They have the JAMA. They have LL on the SAB. They obviously have angle investors who are still willing (or dumb enough) to buy their BS. They have what looks like a pretty good shot at successful litigation (which will take years)
Why keep making shit up?
There are a very few people I pay attention to on this board that I'd like to have a beer with when this sh*t show is over (for better or worse)
But PM is one of them
Yes I'm still here.
I can't decide if I'm a donkey after the carrot or if it's like watching a disaster in slow motion where you can't look away (does the parachute open? Does the semi make it across the train tracks in time?). But this is getting F*cking ridiculous.
They are delaying for some reason. It's combo related most likely, litigatin related second, but I can't see the delaying because they have no chance of success. Postponing the inevitable at this point seems... Pointless
Well put Jess
I took work a lot of night shifts. Sometimes 24s. I voted against bonuses and will also continue to do so.
My bonuses are based on time.
They have laid out 3 very distinct timelines in my experience with them. The first they missed by Astronomical Units. (TLD 2020)
The second was first submission in October
The third will be submission this month. I have zero faith they will even have it submitted to "publishers" (convenient we now have another party to blame for delay) before December.
Poor man is right
Everyone is lying
The emoji ranks do show up right on schedule every time 😂
Here's what's fascinating to me...
You have your "Fudsters" all with varying degrees of intellectual input. Now, I understand how they could be critical of the way this operation has been run (as am I).
But what I can't understand is their argument against the science. How can one rally against what has shown to be a life extending or even cure for such a disease? Did they follow the story of that poor girl from the UK (Laura) and her family? (that made me cry and I'm not a soft guy) Or any of the others? How can you sleep at night trying to destroy their chance at a longer life?
They may have their issues with the JAMA, the trial, etc. Nothing is perfect. But I don't think they have a leg to stand on saying that there is zero potential to help people with this science. So to 24/7 stay on here and proclaim that it's all bogus, that it's a scam, blows me away.
Than you have the "zealots", they too with varying degrees of intelligent and practical input.
They have an almost fanatical devotion management. Any critique, no matter the scale (from missed timelines to shady inner business workings) by anyone including long time large shareholders, is met with:
Grab the torches and pitchforks and burn the witches! They are bears in disguise! They just want more shares! They are just shorts trying to cover! It's all part of LPs plan! You are not a true Long! Etc...
It's borderline creepy if you ask me.
Anyway, rant over. Downtime at work can lead a person down the rabbit hole. I think you and I (and a number of others I could name) are on the same page.
I call us the "realists".
We are tired of such precious and important cargo, with the possibility to help so many people...
Being hauled around in a ****ing clown car.
ILT
I'll see if to the end because of the science and the people behind that science.
I just pray to God that this potential isn't lost by the handlers that don't know what they are doing.
Some great analogies!
I'm just tired of their Bullshit
I hope you're right. I'm in heavy but my God, the apologists are over the top.
ILT
They provided guidance for the release of TOP LINE DATA!! (I can't emphasize that enough) within a 3-6 week window (Sometime within the month of Sept, 2020), on 3 separate occasions IIRCC.
Not only did they completely miss said window, but we then learn they hadn't even locked the database (Occured early Oct, 2020) when they made those statements.
Post database lock there was then well over a year of "analyzing the data" until TLD was finally released.
This screams either incompetence or dishonesty.
Please explain that to me. PM is right, everyone was/is lying.
Keeping what could be a vital treatment out of the hands of patients who need it, by playing some pretend smoke and mirror PR game with the "wolf pack" and simultaneously destroying shareholder value?
Helluva strategy
The estimation back in 2020 for TLD was so far off the mark that the only real conclusion that can be made is that they were lying.
As I think they are now. But why?
Delaying for some reason? Throwing out enough scraps to keep the stock from cratering until something comes to fruition perhaps? What is it?
And why provide such small windows for success? Why not say "3-4 months" instead of "30-45" days, only to fail miserably, what looks like twice in a row?
Or are they really that incompetent?
It IS NWBO... ;)
11mil. Should get us through submission... I would hope
Hey we got some money to keep kicking the can it looks like
More than likely both are correct
I guess I should have said today
My OT*K position (.21 avg.) Is going to pass my NWBO position this week
I don't know how I feel about that.
Happy and disappointed at the same time
It looked too much like NWBO in 2017. Had to go for it
This is 2020 all over again. Get ready for holidays, covids, and of course more approximations and anticipations and prepations
Followed by a silent period
This is so reminiscent of almost exactly 3 years ago when they claimed TLD in the month of September, only to have finally locked the data in October. Then there was a good year plus before TLD was presented.
What are these people smoking.
They had a beautiful opportunity to knock this sucker out of the park and prove that, for once, they know what they're doing.
But instead we got a perfectly executed P&D on bogus "approximates and anticipates"
One would think by now I'd be used to the taste of NWBO shit sandwiches, but I just really hoped it was different this time. Shame on me
Back to business as usual I guess. See you on the big booze show
Yep
Filling those gaps today
Mike
Wouldnt #1 be awesome? That's the kinda ether in the intake this thing needs right now to blow the doors off ( admittedly not the best analogy unless it was a LOT of ether )
I'll even take #2 to the bank
#3.... sadly is what I feel is most likely.
Like a chump I bought another good spot at the high .9s
Please LP show us that NWBO is a real boy!
Thanks for keeping it real man
PS
JD, get in here and call another bottom at .80!
Yes or no
'NWBO will not have there MAA application submitted in the window they provided'
This window is the "30-45" window from Aug 29 that they provided
I'm going with no
I don't know why, for the last (3.5 years?) NWBO has intermittently (via LG) decided to talk to the public via about what may or may not be going on.
Why are they using a side/hack outlet to provide non-confirmable (via public filings/official PR)
SMH
No wonder we took a hit today
IIRC the word in the hood was that they were going to PR submittal.
This PR to me says that they anticipate submitting at any point from 0-45 days. So still have two or so weeks left to submit.
However It doesn't say they will let us know they submitted.
But is acceptance a significant event? I would think so, so must be PRd.
What of they submitted on day 5, and we get acceptance news in the next two weeks?
Yeehaw!
Probably unlikely...
Glitch in Matrix...
The gamble would be, that MHRA comes back with some hiccups in the application, request for more info, or downright denial.
I think this is unlikely.
Great post and analogy
Until the "30-45" day window for submission is past.
It will be apocalypse of they miss that. I don't see them providing such a defined window without know for sure they can make it.
But they've done it before...
Right now
Is a good time to buy. The closest binary event is the whole within the 30-45 days from the last PR that management states they are "anticipating" submitting to the MHRA and "believes" they have all the prereqs completed for doing so.
To me this is similar to August 2020 when they "planned" and "anticipated" having TLD "in the month of September, sometime after labor day"
When they hadn't even locked the database...
If they follow through with their stated timeline, I think there will be a pop given that they actually werent spewing trash. I hope this to be the case.
I held through the last BS and I've held through all the BS. I hope that NWBO proves to be a real boy.
After submittal, we have a good wait and a lot of manipulation (barring lawsuit developments) where it will eventually be determined if MHRA decides if NWBO is truly a real boy or not.
LL on the SAB cannot in my mind be a bad development...
Long 250k
Yes. This needs to conclude
JD
Watching OTLK
Where do you think the bottom is
Reminds me of NWBO 6 some years ago...
What still blows me away is the PR and big booze show late August 2020, where the company and Les stated "we expect to release TLD (yes TLD) in the month of September, sometime after labor day"
So approximately 2-4 weeks from said statements.
And they hadn't even locked the database. Ive welcomed anyone to justify that sort of public statement, made in multiple forums, when they knew full well they were blowing smoke up everyone's ass. They either lied or had no f'ing clue what they were doing. Or a combo of both.
So when the company says "we plan to submit" and "anticipate submitting" in "approximately 30-45 days" it puts a sour taste back in my mouth from 3 years ago almost to the day.
I really hope they are telling the truth and are making a well informed and accurate prediction on this submittal.