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ok so you admitted to knowing about the dp lab test...so in the pr titled "first giant king grass harvest" says this....
According to Kukkonen, a new independent analysis in Europe verified that Giant King Grass has excellent energy content (19.2 megajoules per dry kilogram, or 4,585 kilocalories per kilogram-- slightly higher than previous measurements). And the fast-growing nature of Giant King Grass means it is a highly productive and economically advantageous crop, compared to all other biomass crops. Furthermore, Giant King Grass can be harvested in the first year, whereas many other energy crops cannot be harvested until they have been growing for two or more years. "We feel these characteristics together make Giant King Grass very attractive to biomass users, and we are seeing evidence of that in the form of requests for proposals, sales inquiries and MOUs," he said
so there is the second analysis of our wonderful grass...as for the live test...why waste grass if they know they dont need to "test" it and are ready to go into full production with it?? you are acting so disapointed by the fact that they didnt do the test...when actually i think most of us see it as an encouraging sign that everyone is confident our grass will work just fine. so do you agree?? if not tell me why it doesnt bother you so much.
honestly i cant even be bothered to read your entire post but you posted this
"VSPC could be transparent and clear all this up...why announce a live trial.....and not follow through?....I appreciate your posting....and I agree on the following
GKG was found more energy potent in lab testing
DP has only BIOMASS plants
Pellets are for coal plants"
you asked me how i know that they did lab tests, then you agreed that they were done, whats up with thaat?...i know they did lab tests because the doctor said he did lab tests...and no i do not have the results from the tests in my lap but the doc says they are done so i believe him...dont you?
i will clarify your problem horse since you took that pr out of context...the pellets will be used to co fire with COAL plants only and as far as i know we do not have any mou with any company for the pellets yet that we know of. the reason it doesnt say china is because we will not be using the pellets with dp in china because dp owns BIOMASS plants and NOT COAL plants therefore they will be using the grass in china. i believe carl has always been straightforward and have no reason to believe that he has maade anything unclear up to this point in time, and yes they also have made it crystal clear on many different occasions that the pellets are used for coal plannts and the regular grass for biomass plants. as for the results we already know there are 2 independant lab tests done and have confirmed gkg to be even more efficient than they had initially thought and felt it was not necessary to do a live test fire because of the lab tests success. do you have any more questions on this matter?
how do you do the boardmark thing
tommy...its really not worth entertaining his arguements...he will continue to try and twist facts to work negatively...and the more you reply to him the more nonsense he will talk...just let him get his 15 posts a day in to help us get on the top 15 list and dont reply LOL
the cooling off theory was just that...a theory brought up by t9f which apparently none of us know whether its true or not. what me and the rest of us know is that the sec had some issues with their filings and required some adjustments to be made. according to dr jan they have cooperated with the sec and made the changes they were asked to make. so now the only thing that makes sense is that we are waiting on a response from the sec, which im sure we will get either later today or early next week judging by how long it took the last time. as bigd has stated previously these deadlines are not set in stone and can always be adjusted. i try not to get too deep into these theories posed by people like t9f because they get people thinking a little deeper into issues than i think they should. i like to take it one step at a time and worry about the current issue at hand which is waiting for the SEC reply to our latest filing. the fact that december 15th has come and gone does not concern me because the SEC will have to provide a response eventually, and when they do im sure we will be second to dr k to find out what the result was. i feel your frustrations as you have been involved in this stock much longer than i have, but i think we need to just calm down and wait for the SEC's reply and then take it from there.
people keep saying that we have blown past deadlines and no news or updates...i believe more than one person has spoken to dr jan and he has told you guys that the filings have been completed and we are waiting on the SEC to approve the ipo...i thought the SEC may have had their answer prepared for today but i guess not. guys lets be realistic here the SEC will approve this IPO as soon as they are satisfied with content which is why they have not said NO yet. imo everyone wants to get this deal done and out of the way including dr k chang and everyone else involved with these companies. all in due time it will be done and a thing of the past and we will carry forward with dp and other gkg contracts...im just sick of people crying and complaining about being in the dark when we know exactly whats going on.
snow is junk you dont wanna see it lol...im from toronto too garbage weather the last few days
anyone got some l2 going on here??? whos dragging us down today??
hey tommy did we confirm that the cool down period applies to us or??? i remember reading that post but i didnt really follow up on it.
quiet day today...who else expects news monday morning?
they've released some PR's at some strange times before so who knows when to expect ipo and/or contract news...should be an exciting week...probably some good buying going into the end of this week if news is not announced just in anticipation of monday! or at least i hope so
capital I...these guys arent here to waste precious time as they have important business matters to attend to...the deal will get done.
im not sure i didnt read the rest of the post lol i just read your concern about the campaign let me check that out now
so pay off mr chang with that money instead of the ad campaign...vge goes public...and no one knows about it...that wouldnt be much of a help either, these guys are smart, and imo theres a lot of investors on the sidelines waiting for this deal to go through before they start making purchases. i think the idea was to get this ad campaign moving so that by the time the ipo and chang payment is done we will have enough eyes to get this pps moving, and i think that will be the case. a lot of companies use these promoters and it can only do us good. they havent done an ad campaign like this before, so consider the reasons why they waited till now to do it...big things are happening behind the scenes here and when we finally find out about it...this baby will explode. thats just my 2 cents =)
lets keep it moving siader...things should be getting really interesting here very soon...#1 coming up!!!
been reading the posts all day today but havent had time to add because i've been so busy! just read the presentation and it looks really good to me...cant wait till this ipo is done so they can release contract info...you think we sign contracts for all dp plants right away??? or do they take it 1 step at a time...
we will get vge ipo dp contract and dp plant positive test results all this month before christmas...get ready for the ride
hello again tommy...i realize this is just your opinion and you are entitled to it, but the "great" risk you speak of is something i dont think exists...im not saying there is no risk at all but i do think it is very minimal. they wouldnt be in search of more land if the grass wasnt going to work...imo the grass is already tested and confirmed that it will work, now all we are waiting for is for it to be implemented into a working power plant which should be done by the end of this month. the grass will work fine and contracts will be signed. one more point...you said a 50% increase on dp contract news??? my friend you will see plenty more than 50% LoL!!!
wow i guess everyone is really busy with this holiday weekend...
to be honest with you seattle i've passed the point of thinking about whether or not this deal is going to go through or not. over the last few months i believe chang and drk have proven their commitment to making this deal happen and to becoming a world leader in the biomass industry, so i do not question that any longer. i think if chang was planning to walk he would have done it already but im assuming from what it looks like, hes just as commited and excited about everything coming together as the good dr. plus if chang walks hes left with a product that no one else knows how to grown or maintain or market properly. chang brings the product, and the dr has all the connections and research behind him to make it work. im not 100% sure but i think it said if the deal doesnt get done this week the final extension would be to december 26th??? not sure though as i said. and thats my 2 cents =)
ok so now that i feel i have a reason to post again....and we are expecting vge ipo in a couple of days...what position do you guys think vspc will be in after ipo is released and vge shares are trading at $3????
nobody should scare you out of anything...bigd always says...strong fundamentals, and the story just keeps getting better and better. this is what you should continue to look at when you wonder why you put your money in here, and do not let mm manipulation cloud your vision, it seems to be what they do in preparation for a nice run up.
so 5.7m volume with a close at 2.3 same as yesterday...can anyone say manipulation? when i see mm's doing stuff like this i cant help but get excited and expect something big to occur within the next week or two. sat back and watched people panic on the boards and didnt bother to post until now lol all i gotta say is keep a close eye on this thing for the next little while i believe all us longs are in for a little treat soon.
so i went and took a quick read at the yahoo board...its really turning into a mess over there...i would ask that someone make another post there inviting decent longs to come over to this board because i cant even look at the topic lost on yahoo anymore its disturbing
i wonder how the price might react in the morning...maybe we can get a few good buys in to prop us back up to 2.5 - 2.8 range again?
this is only the beginning of revealing their plan to take over the world =) lol!
my money is on seeing 25 cents well before 12-18 months...soon as chang vge is taken care of and we sign a deal with dp 25 cents wont be an issue
i think this is the only thing holding us down right now...people do not believe in vspc because we cant get this deal done, and i know people who are involved with the stock know the deal is going to get done but new investors looking in arent seeing this as a positive thing. ive said before this will be the time where the dr's plan will start to unfold because of all the deadlines coming up...great things ahead i expect after our succesful testing with dp that we go into 2010 with a very nice looking pps.
what did he update?? checked the website didnt find anything new...or do you mean he just added the pr to the website all together?
siader...i think the time has come where these confidentiality agreements will start being lifted and more information slowly released...testing time for gkg will be over in december and then it will be contract time, and when we are signing contracts...obviously all this confidentiality will be a thing of the past. dmfcc is well on its way also...by mid 2010 i think at the latest you'll see contracts being signed and conf. agreements lifted also regarding samsung toshiba etc. i think the fact that all the technology we are involved in is brand new and not yet available to consumers is obviously the reason why companies do not want information shared. i think once things get rolling with the gkg and dmfcc and it is confirmed that this is the way of the future...companies wont be so reluctant to make their involvement public
josh what exactly is that link i didnt quite understand that...
should be a few pieces of news coming next week i think 10q is due monday plus i think we see something about the chang deal also!!!
note that the dynario can only be available in japan...this means we are getting ready to kick some ass LOL
china is the #1 emitter of polution in the world and they are also the word leader in "going green" at the moment. the fact that they are also subsidising green energy projects leads me to believe that we wil be fully backed by the government with no interference if we can provide and good business plan and solution to helping their pollution problem. i also believe dr k has the right connections in the right places to make this happen i think hes already proven this to us, so from the chinese government standpoint i believe we are totally safe, i even think they may help in the process. there are some articles that were posted previously that discuss the government helping in the green energy business which im sure are easy to locate if you are interested in reading them...hope this helps
mr monk i agree with that 9 cent number in 2009 but 13 cents taking gkg into consideration??? lol when they sign a contract with dp for gkg in those power plants that type of revenue will push us well over the 20 cent mark. thats just gkg.
what is their estimate?
everything they do is in their own interest...when little 200 share sells go through to bring the price down is of no benefit to me or you...maybe it will assist in the long run but it certainly doesnt bring much investor confidence for the stock in the short term...the stock is undervalued and everyone knows this...they are holding us down to add to their positions so THEY can make money...and if you think they are doing this to help all of US then i dont really know what to tell you