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the problem is they need to gather some momentum from this...cant just stop the press releases and hope it moves up thats not going to happen...they need to keep putting out news and eventually put out the money maker...we are stuck here till that happens
All correct...I don't think there's any reason to be concerned
and if they do trade based on non-public information...thats illegal...and someone will get in trouble...so im not sure that it matters if they know something or not
green baron has an unfair advantage if they know non-public information you are correct...but theres nothing wrong with that if they dont trade based on that information...so dont jump to any big conclusions or conspiracy theories
its not bickering and i for one have not missed the good DD done by some of you guys such as seattle...but if you are going to make statements like the following
"Involvement with RUBA is still a fact...Because it was in a PR as well right?"
if you are going to imply that vspc doesnt have any involvement with ruba then provide an email from ruba stating that they do not have any ties with our company...in my opinion these types of nonsensical implications are just an attempt to discredit some of the good DD done by many members of this board.
a few months back i remember lots of DD being done and supported by links to websites and emails from drk drj and companies we were/are dealing with. that has now turned into speculation and the twisting of wording in PR's without any support to back up these so called "opinions"...SO before people jump on me and think im here to bicker with fools...know that im still confident in my investment and i still like what this company has to offer which is why i still exist on the board...and if people are going to post "opinions" here they should post a link or email which lead them to form that opinion rather than pulling thoughts out of thin air...thank you
I don't really give a damn about peoples stupidity and don't care to try and make sense of it...I'm a very forward kinda guy and I won't be any different on a stock msg board
I will post whatever I want...so if you don't like it don't read it...your posts are not "about" vspc...your posts consist of nothing but accusations of false statements and management misleading investors...so again if someone felt that way about a stock...why bother wasting all the time posting about it...are you trying to save us from losing our money or are you still confident we will make money here? Because it certainly doesn't seem like it
im not mad at you...im simply saying if all their prs are misleading and their history is so terrible...leave and dont look back...its nothing personal really...but if i felt the way you feel i wouldnt be hanging around posting on this board the way you do :)
all it says is that they signed the agreement...it doesnt specify who put the clause in...so again you are making another silly assumption...i dont know the reason why they cant tell us the date i also dont really care...the PR was to tell us that they signed an MOU and thats exactly what it said, not to satisfy tommy 9 fingers annoying constant questions...
all it says is that they signed the agreement...it doesnt specify who put the clause in...so again you are making another silly assumption...i dont know the reason why they cant tell us the date i also dont really care...the PR was to tell us that they signed an MOU and thats exactly what it said, not to satisfy tommy 9 fingers annoying constant questions...
all it says is that they signed the agreement...it doesnt specify who put the clause in...so again you are making another silly assumption...i dont know the reason why they cant tell us the date i also dont really care...the PR was to tell us that they signed an MOU and thats exactly what it said, not to satisfy tommy 9 fingers annoying constant questions...
i dont care if my post gets deleted...ill just post again lol
tommy....you should probably also find something else to do with your "nine" fingers you know what i mean...you should also probably step down as mod...since you like one other horse i remember could come up with nothing but out of context posts that do nothing but put the company down...i dont even know why the members of this board go into such conversation with you
tommy...you have become our boards biggest basher...here silly
"Under the Memorandum of Understanding, Provident Agro will initially plant a 25 acre test plot in Indonesia using Giant King Grass seedlings provided under contract by VIASPACE. Details of the business relationship were not provided.
((((((Provident Agro has signed a Nondisclosure and Non-Circumvention Agreement with VIASPACE))))))
, and has visited the Giant King Grass plantation in China as part of its due diligence"
then
A non-disclosure agreement (NDA), also known as a confidentiality agreement, confidential disclosure agreement (CDA), proprietary information agreement (PIA), or secrecy agreement, is a legal contract between at least two parties that outlines confidential material, knowledge, or information that the parties wish to share with one another for certain purposes, but wish to restrict access to by third parties. It is a contract through which the parties agree not to disclose information covered by the agreement.
i dont see how that would be a bad thing
justarookie...im having the same problem cannot e-mail you back...
common guys be real...theres no way anyone is manipulating the price of this stock...
they better do something with it :)
Agreed
Have not been following what's going on here lately...but the potential that drk "might" get a deal done is worth more than this...we will bounce back eventually and we aren't going into the 000's
I don't see us movin down that far...I've seen companies in much worse condition not makin that low even while being dumped on...I think people will start jumping in soon these prices are a steal
I got time...and when they shake the tree I like to stand underneath and catch all the leaves as they fall...I've never seen a stock run until it takes a major dip first...not saying it will run now...but it will
what happened??? everyone get scared away??? lol
at this point i dont care who owns/controls this company...but that chang deal couldnt have been made so everyone could sit here and watch the price dwindle into sub penny...there are pieces of this puzzle missing and drk drj drchang i dont care who need to find these pieces asap...and then let me know of course...i almost hate to say this but if this does go sub...more accumilation will occur!
i find it hard to believe this is what chang signed up for...took all those shares for...theres gotta be something...
i wouldnt load up until closer to spring time...nothing in the pipeline until then for these boys...but i am keeping my eye on it somewhat
Wow...green? Lol
Dont worry joshy i know all about this :)
"and btw....that is what the chart is suggesting.....imho.....back to the pre-DMFCC prices...."
can you further explain what you mean by this? what are the charts showing that brought you to this conclusion?
i think the problem is everyone has been sitting by their computers waiting for this to go for the last few months...i find if you just let it be and find something else to do...its a little easier to handle...you dont become as impatient!
maybe its still too early in the morning but i looked at the vge website and found http://www.viaspacegreenenergy.com/newsreview.php?id=7&type=news
i thought we only had the liscence in china and north america???
just because they dont post about something it doesnt mean it was a failure or didnt work...you people need to stop making assumptions that every PR that comes out is a load of BS. dmfc hasnt been ready to be launched yet which is why they havent released any news...for competition reasons is why i assume these companies put all these confidentiality agreements in place...if they find something they like...why would they want competitors to get their hands on it??? green energy and these replacement power plants are being developed on such a large scale over the next 20 years that even one company has the potential to bring in (im scared to guess how much money) serious revenues for this company. i never imagined it would take this long to get a deal done when i bought into vspc...and ill be the first to admit i am getting rather annoyed...but then i ask myself...is that my fault?? or the company's??? and all fingers point to myself...i picked the company...i made the decision to put my money here...therefore i cannot complain and blame management for this. good night and good luck
these mm's are some of the biggest institutions in the world...what makes you think they dont have full control over what goes on?? they can drive the price any way they wish...anytime they want...the OTC is not regulated the same way the bigger exchanges are...this is why in this market mms play a big role in what goes on...i dont understand why that is some conspiracy theory to some of you...im not saying its happening right now...but it has happened many many times in the past and is going on right now in other stocks as we speak...its just a fact of life in the otc market...son
I understand you had to get very agressive with that post to have any chance of getting to me...the fact is I'm not ignorant to how things work at all...I'm not sure if you were born half retarded or if this is a problem you've developed over time...either way...when viaspace moves up I will sell and make money...at whichh point all this will be irrelevant
not sure about the experience part...hes got nothing lol
yea i guess...someone said earlier that his opinion was respected on the board...hope they werent speaking for me lol
i like the fact that everytime someone responds to your post they have to "go back and re-read my post" because no one seems to understand what you're mumbling about except you LOL
you and me cannot set the bid on a stock...the bid and ask are both set by the MM...and just like you said they provide liquidity for the stock...so whether you are buying or selling...you are buying or selling from the MM...not from me or bruce or anyone else.
"and how did Bruce get the 4 dollar pps yesterday?......was it something the MM's did?......"
yes it most definately was something the MM did...bruce paid $4 because he placed an order for $4...and the MM filled it...he did not adjust the bid or anything else...when vspc issues shares...the MM distributes to us on their behalf...thats all.
"But he/she implied that the bid had to be raised by the MM on VSPC......it can be done by anyone .......THROUGH THE MM......"
id like you to call an MM and tell them you would like them to change their bid on vspc for you...see what they say!
its very likely mr chang uses an MM to sell shares for him because he owns hundreds of millions of shares and the MM will sell without destroying the pps of the stock and they charge him a spread on each share...this is the only reason why an MM would adjust their bid/ask...they are simply doing business.
to even suggest me or you could or should use an MM or could possibly change their bids/asks is simply ridiculous and is very telling of your lack of knowledge in this area
so my son...what else?
MM's do control the market...thats why theyre called market makers...thats not really even up for debate...hedge funds get involved here all the time...its just a fact
"He/she was implying that the MM's raise the bid....my point was that someone looking to buy VSPC can bid what they will.....it's not up to MM's.....it's up to the free market
well my son it is totally up to the MMs they buy shares all the time and control bid and ask to make margins...you should probably do a little more reading maybe gain some knowledge before you come here and try to tell people whats going on
its not my business or yours how bruce gets his money back...he bought the shares on speculation they might go up...so now you're saying he should sell short which is speculating that it would go down...which is contradictory all together...its like betting on the same team to win and lose...so what the hell are you talking about slugger?? actually dont even bother replying...not interested in reading it
what if ruba didnt pass and we are still dealing with them?? its been stated so many times that when they go into negotiations there are conf. agreements signed...i know it sucks for us because we cannot get all the updates but honestly they've told us this so many times and people still complain about the same thing...i dont get it...you were told about conf agreements last year...if you really hate it that much no ones forcing anyone to stay here...and jaru this was not aimed directly at you...just a general statement