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It appears to me in my review of '16 the only dead money is the SA and JS and their Cabal's predictions. 0 for the whole year. Nothing they've predicted turned out...so what do they do? They 1. Give us useless VWAP info that no one else uses in penny land; 2. They have made every useless attempt to scare shareholders into selling out with a clear agenda; 3. They give us drive by DD (alleged -jury is still out on this), but this is highly suspect to me. I offered the drive by Dullard the opportunity to meet me there unannounced to see and report accurately - together and the clown wouldn't. ..yet the same morning the dullard (allegedly) drove by whole I was there...4. They've used the same tactics to say doom n gloom about the new Jersey case as hey did with the 3 other cases...PV lost, fed case and the state case- amicably settled...5. They throw these bogus number at us from the fed case, inflate the lawyer fees and need to go to Sylvan Center and learn how to calculate simple interest...6. They throw this "sky is falling" hogwash at us about an admin oversight; 7. They tell us about these "convo's" that I think are from the other former distributor who certainly has no further knowledge of the company (booted out too) but yet was ready to testify for ifus/mw and sell his collaborators down the river ....oh yeah we can count on his credibility. ...8. They try and use trick language (cracks me up) about "scienter" nonsense that was never said or implied....9. They continue to defend the dullards who are in deep stuff...22+ federal indictments foe one, one felony domestic violence (wife/woman beating) for the other which I find truly amazing; 10. They hammer mw whom they've never met and know zippo about.
Whew! A lot to take in...enough to give you a hangover jusrvreafunf this lol.
Let's hope we can push the SA cabal to accept the truth this new year...
Ifus strong
Exactly my thoughts, but the SA blogledites would have you believe the sky is falling over it. "I can't imagine how we both missed it" just cracks me up. I think Martin is right "you can't make this stuff up!"
Like I said. Anyone who knows anything about running a business knows this is a common thing. I've sat on board-funding meting for major capital projects where this has been discussed and actioned. Not a big deal nor does it need to be defended.
However! The SA cabal clown -circus show would try and twist it into a "call the FBI" criminal type deal. Typical blog bs at best. As a shareholder who's done his DD, and who has run two Corporations with experience, I can tell you this a legit company, run by a guy who puts his heart n soul into it and the results are great. You see, the shareholders (me and every shareholder I associate with, making up the majority of shares) support MW. Admin oversight? So what! Not a show stopper. Get over it SA cabal...He'll pay the fee and get it up to date. Thanks for letting us know....I'll buy you breakfast if you've got the guts to meet me at the site....but alas....I know know that'll never happen. None of the SA clan have the guts to go see the truth, they'd rather get all excited and choked up over an admin oversight. "Admin oversight....sky is falling....scam....scam alert....better blog this!"
Amazing what the SA clown show will get all worked up about.
Strong buy. No question about it.
Not abandoned. Pure hype. Simple oversight and fix.
Gee it's not like he has an administrative group behind him yo help out....considering this is commonly overlooked. About the only thing embarrassing about it aee clowns who know nothing about business. This is a simple oversight and simple fix. I know several companies that have gone through this....huge international companies to boot.
Never ceases to amaze me the nonsense.
Be interesting to know who you "convo'd" with. Sounds suspicious to me. The international business is very alive for Ifus.
I suspect your convo'ing with the SA collaborator (name escapes me at the moment-not at my desk) who, in the end turned on SA and JS and was ready to testify against those two....
Go ahead and listen to whom you want, nothing but speculation, twisted nonsense and pure supposition. Nothing true or factual.
This is typical in business. Would it surprise you to know this happens frequently even among large businesses? Oxy had it happen, big article about it, lost the Uzhen project in Kazakhstan over it. ExxonMobil had to immediately update and renew theirs to get the funding for the Sakhalin 1 and 4 projects and The Odoptu upgrade. Shell Western W&P almost lost their EBRD funding over it. H2MHill needed theirs to be done to complete the acquisition of VECO.
Old news and doesn't mean scam. Anyone who knows business, knows this is commonly overlooked. They pay the fees and charges, get renewed and move on.
Cracks me up folks treat it like a scandal or the end of the world. Operating "illegally?" Nonsense. Happens all the time. P&G had to do the same to get the funding of their soap division revamp.
Ask any government contractor who's defined as 8A and does international work for the US...They've all been through it.
V-WAPers
I doubt it considering they may be under investigation. Checking into this internally. I'll get the facts
That's why it's good to know people on the inside. My family for example. As stated many many times before. SA has been indicted and will either cut a deal and go to jail or just go to jail. He's finished. He's a Rico boy and those cost more time than he can afford
Not true at all. Other things would happen if any of it were true.
Nonsense. 11 motions were made by the dullards and all denied. The counter was active and the criminal evidence in play to the day they settled.
No fantasy it's a reality. Show us a payment schedule. Show us a notice of default to the court...Doesn't exist
Their application has been posted in here. Re read sections where it asks specific questions about he product....not going to read it for ya but it's flagrant fraud. They knew the information to be false. That's criminal and there's no escaping this fact.
Wrong. In cases like this a federal judge would naturally hand the case over if they find any diliberate impropriety, especially criminal.
Truth is, MW was never perceived guilty of anything. It's very simple. A motion was filed and strategically MW's legal team allowed the fed case to close and considering the money sought, trivial to what MW had in the State court.
If the dullards had ANY legal leverage with the SEC, logically it would have been played.
Now, even Admin Shelly couldn't use her / his former SEC contacts to do anything. It's over, fed case closed.
The real criminal damaging evidence was in the State case. I have the file and it's clear the dullards broke several laws including SEC laws. Their own coharts has turned on them and we're ready to testify against them.
This information is unimpeachable and has not been refuted to date.
Again, nice try but if there was a criminal angle against MW, that trump card would have been played.
As for turning info over to the SEC....do you really think they'll move on it? The risk to the dullards and their criminal deeds would be more exposed than MWs.
Lastly, amazing "who" rush out th same day the evidence was presented to them and they were confronted....went out and hired a criminal defense team. But nowhere do I see mw doing this. Maybe bcs he's innocent?
Because I've checked.
A simple call made clears this up. I'll make it and get back to ya. The legal issue is fraud. They signed under oath knowing he information they provided was false.
Nice try but we agree. It is a legal matter and I doubt the dullards will go after it again
Yeah, the amount of product headed out the gate on a regular basis is amazing. The crew wanting another shift added is telling in itself. Bar none, this company's headed in the right direction.
This is a federal judge, so why didn't we see this turned over to prosecution?
Yeah almost forgot about the Rock Group from SA's first company "First Level Entertainment," the UNFORENSICS! lolol...that's entertaining in itself. But I still like the special ingredient....I'm sure Budwiser would take great offense their product listed as a special ingredient to a patent application....wonder if I should call their PR people and ask..can you imagine the lawsuit from this? Of course Joe is probably still hard at work at their factory making product....again, still trying to figure out which gets sauced more...Joe or Absorbezz lololol.....ohhhhhhhhhhhh this belongs in a book....
Yeah this whole bit over "scienter" is big laugh. The SA gang obviously doesn't know anything about law. There's no judge in the world who'd open themselves up for disciplinary action against themselves for bias AND no way would they make themselves liable for an appeal based on their personal bias. They just wouldn't. Supreme Court says clearly "if the judge didn't say it, they didn't imply it either." Removes the ambiguity IMO. So I take that as gospel...it wasn't said.
To be accurate, the dullards are in enough trouble already for filing a fraudulent application and that I'm 100% sure was the reason why it was denied. There's no way they go for 2! That's just cold hard reality.
As for the perfection, this cracks me up. The "special ingredient" is Budwiser? That's an absolute laugh! I'm sure Joe was like a kid in the candy store when they added this special ingredient lololololol. Perked him right up....trying to figure out who would get sauced more, the product or Joe lolololol.
Thanks, I needed a good laugh...I'm rolling.. As Martin says, you can't make this stuff up.
In the State Case, not the Federal, please show me one shred of proof the counter claim was thrown out. I have the full file (minus the settlement) and SA made several motions to either get evidence thrown out and/or have the counter suit dropped. None of the motions were successful. So for accuracy sake, show me anything relative to the evidence getting tossed.
Can't? Because there is no evidence any part of the counter claim was tossed, removed, set aside or anything else. Everything I have straight from the file indicates "denied" in the dullard boys attempts to have the counter dismissed and such. The State Judge would not hear any of it and would have recommended the file to be turned over to the prosecution for investigation and charges. The evidence provided was that clear. It was in fact so clear, the dullards were smart enough to go and hire a criminal defense team. This is unimpeachable and irrefutable.
You keep pointing us to the federal case which has already been omitted. So it was tossed. It only left the matter to be solved in the State case....which IMO it was when the case was settled amicably.
I've been to site and talked to the buyers and distributors. I've seen product produced and the results of the sales going out the gate. Those facts are unimpeachable...as they say, "seeing is believing."
Wrong. Need to check the right sites. It's there...he's got nw 26 indictments against him 5 Rico. He has 21 major felonies and the rest are just as serious. He'll do serious jail time.
Read the 360 law online where the justice department came down heavily on OSER and Co. This includes SA. They lost millions in the suit and lost in Rico.
SA settled amicably bcs he can't afford another Rico against him. He was in enough trouble with the patent office which I'm digging in to now. The justice department takes this very seriously and there's no escape for the dullards.
So no mixing of the facts. And before you prop SA up again, go to SA's former publicly traded company blog and see what the shareholders there think of him. SA is finished in ever getting on a board of a publicly traded company. So are all his coharts in crime
The two gentlemen above SA in OSER are in deep stuff. Caught in very serious RICO issues and I suspect (now) SA has had a hand in it all along. I will do more digging and see if there's a match. Maybe this is why SA has 22+ indictments hanging over his head right now. Maybe the justice system wants him to turn on these guys....who knows. Either way, he's a crook, in bed with other crooks. JS is just the gopher...nothing more.
SA will never be able to start up a legit company ever again....google his name and you'll see why.
I looked at the law 360 site with the suit against these guys...and posted the complaint....RICO is some pretty serious stuff.
Last thing. Its been posted on numerous occasions the MW was going down for RICO and one guy said he'd personally see to this. The complaint link I've posted is what a RICO case looks like. I've found nothing on MW even close to this.
First, judge never said that....not sure why it's continued to be reposted. Considering the real information is stickied.
I've been to the site, talked with distributors and have seen product gone out the gate. Evidence and DD with my own eyes...good enough for me.
Try these links and judge for yourself:
The Connection, follow the links:
http://oserventures.com/our-team/
SA is listed as “Consultant.”
https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/new-york/nyedce/1:2012cv05280/335716/28/0.pdf
Peter Burgess and band of thieves….possibly the trainer for SA
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Steven-Adelstein/1207604195
SA’s connection to OSER Thugs, read until you get to the BoD part
https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/North-Miami/steve-adelstein-6586465.aspx
List of some of SA’s former companies….see the part where none are still active!
I thought it was already received and perfected? I guess not. Looking at case history it's apparent to me why the patent office denied their application. But....this office has a long history of going after fraudulent applications, the people who sign under oath. Hundreds of cases with criminal convictions, jail time, fines and penalties.
I would expect that the dullard boys are in (again) over their heads. Lastly they are humiliated in this rejection, plus facing more criminal charges for sure, no way they'll go back after any patent.
I think your deliberately ignoring the connection between JS, SA and the OSER group. SA is a known scammer who has defrauded people out of their money. They've been after his carcass for a while now. SA is connected to these guys for sure. JS is nothing more than a petty bum who stepped into the big leagues. And is now paying the price for it. He's also connected. Birds of the feather. ..flock together.
SA has multiple indictments of his own. Soon to cop a plea to save his own hyde.
They don't trust js with anything deeper than gopher duties. He's been known to drink and talk.
It's a shame to take the path they did. Had they played it smart they could have prospered with all of us.
I think Joe drank the Bud lol. So much for their study
Me too my friend....Ifus strong. Bonus time! Time to buy out the guys selling off in chunks again.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Merry Christmas to all shareholders and non shareholders.
Lolololol...they can make it all they want! Try and sell it! lololol...no one's buying.
No distribution no studies of their own....no real or true data to support this patent pending product = no competition.
It's said in business "your either an asset or liability." Which name could be associated to that patent that would matter? Show me a distributor, show me a contract, show me a sale recently. ...dead money and worthless "patent pending" still = worthless. Good luck with that lololol
Yeah ask anyone in the industry if they accept their patent. Everyone in the industry laughs at JS and SA. Bring their name up anywhere and make sure you tell them about the patent. Lol...get ready to hear "not interested" on a regular basis.
Hogwash. The studies were paid for by shareholders and plagerized, used fraudulently and the data presented to the 60% owners of absorbezz deliberately wrong.
Shareholders know what's going in and our DD is solid. Dullards are finished and they'll not go after the patent again nor will they appeal. Absorbezz is dead and dead money. They don't have a single distributor and no distributor will touch them now. They're ruined. Their name is Mudd.
While at the site, I asked one of the distributors that same question. He said "no one will touch them or present their product." That's straight from the distributors.
The only distributor they ever had they collaborated with and he turned on them, was to testify against them in court. That is all public information so it's unimpeachable.
Call any of the distributors yourself, none will go near them. Everyone on the industry knows the studies WERE NOT performed under js supervision. He's dumb as a rock and oukdnt oversee it. Has no technical background. Should see his background check....nothing to indicate he has any experience or education in the scientific world.
Ask Joe to go out and try and give a presentation. They'd toss him out first 5 minutes.
Actually shareholders paid for it. They never owned it. And the data they provided was not in the studies. More fraud from the Dullards
They don't own the study either