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You see...it was over a year ago when there was life in the share price and before the scandles began. dude shook my hand...he is not american cause the hand shake is golden in real man business ...lol
here is a grand thought...wish I had won that 600+million lottery...then I could hire the best detectives and lawyers and get Kay kicked outta the country along with his crew...cause I am sure they are way in it as well! Then I would by the stock ticker ECDC and any other version of it, turn it into a real object (maybe a big wooden sign) then take it out back of my 100 acre estate (baught with part of my winnings) and blow it up sky high, and roast some marshmellows, then pay some local crime lords in the country we sent kay to to bug him every day...driving by and screaming...VIR2O and ECDC Rules! Thoughts?
God I leave for a minute and the batsard (yes I spelled it wrong) raises the share count....so who wants to make wagers on when it hits the billion arena and reverse splits again destroying every shred of profit we have. I tried to get NC online with Student Connect and good ol Kay did not deliver...do not see it happening this time. I mean I had key folks lined up with local DODS Schools on base reps available to present to ....and the dude did not come through. I had a possible Chevy dealership along with one of the main board members for Chevy available to present a drive through consierge system ready for product and presentation and the dude again did not deliver. I merely say all of this so the new investors can see another person here who has been burnt in more ways than one by this fool! I just want some of my investment back so my piddly 13k shares will either get me a little or dissapear with the next batch of wash rinse repeat. Kay....take a leap buddy! A big leap!
talked with etrade and yes as many know the company and transfer agent are sitting on their hands...wonder why? if any know why please do share and yes it is a scam, so entertain another reason for the hold up. thanks in advance.
great post and as one member stated...EPIC FAIL! God save the queen. Still cant sell my shares...damn you etrade and ecdcdcdcdcecccdcdc (new name in a few months). IMO
I am sure this may have ome up..does anybody know when Etrade is gonna release our split shares for trade...i need to cut my losses at the next best opportunity??? thanks ahead of time!
Hey folks...the R/S happened and Kay diluted again...it was instantanious...so you did not miss anything. lol
a lot of great points made about the lack of business sense here as we remain at the bottom of the lake with our losses. Not cry'n just hoped we would have made some real money with what seemed to be sound ideas. But this Kay fella ...he sure pulled a fast one on us. Now I am off to FB to dispute his cronies over there. GLTYA
more proof ecdc has scammed money outta this thing they call business. scam alert! i lost money so I atleast get to say that..lol subject matter experts...is it a convention on how to raise and decrease share count for the benefit of Kay? then I would believe the whole subject matter expert thing. another vacation to his homeland...i tell ya folks he is skipping town soon then we really wont see our money. i would prefer they say, we are selling of the stock ticker and going bankrupt. imo
from the news and this is only speculation, kay is either running for the hills in another country, continuing to spend the money we lost on lavish vacations, or he is looking for some new talent to get vir2go launched (yes I miss spelled it but doesnt it seem better at this point?).
Like others have said NEW INVESTORS BEWARE! its only the goodness of our hearts we warn new investors. i still open the door for strangers and curse at them when they drive bad. same goes here. imo
so another interesting tid bit from the vir2go fb page...they have very creative responders when it comes to: we do not publish the results of a contest becasue that is not common business practice and that makes us transparent....BS! If you get called out then prove us wrong. Beta does not exist...let it loose and let us test it...that is what a beta is for. rogue paper sone went rogue! steph ...all she did was tweet a few times and bounced. student connect...didnt even tell us the kid got kidnapped ..horrible reference and i do hope the child is safe...and last but not least...gattis...sounds more like a few cell phone deals done in kays native country and he played it off as major deals. without solid concrete proof of business, our imaginations run wild and our money follows suit. just a shame no watch dog is on top of this to find litigation for those of us silly enough to play this investment game.
they all signed a confidentiality waiver. so their lips are sealed or kay will sue them and win because he has our money and they have no ground to stand on once they signed the paper.
Also try to look for any reflections...might see Kay in the background taking photos...lol
its funny that the fb page has a ton of content compared to the vir2o site itself.
, I leave for a minute and they KILL the stock once again. Vir2Go about to debut...kudos on that...hope the company moves past 2billion in value...thanks Kay for the Turkey Day surprise. I know they said the Mayans were wrong in their calculations but I feel they were talking about the way the company is using the stock. Have fun at the Vir2slow release cause all of the investors money just went to the DJ and the buffet. Yes I am mad at the 2 billion count..just do the RS and get it over with. Heres to hoping for this guy to turn it around. PS: guess Ill get some cheapies since I love to waste money...weird I know. Can not help myself. Good luck all and be safe over the holidays!
It is safe to say that thestock will not see a bump in volume or value until next year and thats if there is not another delay in Vir2go (my pun on the whole thing) and it actually delivers. It could bring in new investors. What a minute the dilution will begin either near Christmas or first of the year to pay for servers or some other company building adventure...so best time to invest...maybe April 1st. Its after the first quarter, we should be around 2 billion shares, and facebook may do something to make Vir2go poise for more stall tactics. This is all my opinion and the only factual thing here is the continued delay. Beta versions, soft releases, demos...should release the site and let all of us take it for a spin...easier to get the 10+ people interested and maybe others for the time share competition to Paris TX...I am assuming that is where you will be going or a $200 dollar visa card for second place. New investors...beware! Holding my few shares since I believe in Santa and just maybe there is a chance this could rebound. Who knows. IMO!
"Not sure why the PPS is trading the way it is" seems to be the gist of most Kay's replies back to his trusted emailers...how about the shares you are dumping in or maybe the increased share count...hmmm might have a little to do with it. "Not going over 500mill"...had to fund development....oops..went over 500 mill. "No RS"...after 6 billion shares get put in...no other option IMO. "Facebook had something to do with the delay of wetwinds and Vir2go" (I like Vir2go better than Vir2o as this explains more)...lets call it what it is Kay...a lie.
I will gladly eat my words if all this was a delay in development. I met with Kay some time ago and some of his employees. The one employee I met was an excellent individual and he no longer works there. Downsizing or picking the right shady characters.
Were is Waldo...or Stephanie Boyle...talk about a gagged TA or Rogue Paper Rep. If he wants to be like the big boys...he needs to provide constant updates...good or bad. Not like the bad reporting is going to hurt the stock any...haha. It lets people know they are actually doing things.
My quotes are not verbatum but are a near what the "Man" has mentioned in previous posts that continues to place his ethical business parctices in question and should land him in hot water with investors and SEC and FINRA.
We are all here to make money and to misslead an investor is some shady cr*p! Yes, I invested of my own free will, and yes I visited the company, and yes I lost money, and yes I am mad, and yes I believe the products (if launched or if they truely exhist) could catapault the company forward.
My Point is this...new investors beware and old investors..take the shoe box, place it in the closet, grab a beer and lick the wounds. Good luck to ya. All IMO
i leave for a few days and Kay increases the share count ...ohh yeah there is a R/S on the way. A true shame how he has driven any hope of growth into the ground...true shame. If you believe selling more shares to develop more business and inventory...not a good theory at this point. Still have some shares and makes no sense to sell as with the dilution...guess I just helped Kay continue his dirty deeds. I will say the company had great possibilities. Good luck all and new investors beware! Yes I said it and do not feel an ounce of regret. IMO
i see that the news is out that there will be an note from the big man on the release of VIR2GO late september. My guess for the release date...Next Summer when facebook recovers and the housing market stabilizes... its a stretch i know...could happen. all speculation and jmho
down down we go...maybe a R/S is a good thing. I would invest in a company with 250 million shares...wait I did that already. Sorry. So tell me more about the Vir2go thing I keep hearing about? IMO
so what I am hearing is...ANOTHER 4 Years? Any pres, any campaign...just a presidential pun. Or "Another Left Turn" for all the NASCAR buffs. Kay knows there is another calendar year upon us. Would rather hear ...not ready to launch, beta proved upsetting and retooling needed, no solid date for release (should have been said from the beginning). he made wetwinds sound ready for launch then delay due to facebook stock crash...no more excuses. R/S is definitely on the horizon in my opinion cause if his half truths are any indication then there will be more share flooding and a wash / repeat play in 2013. I for one would be glad to get all of my investment back and call me silly, but a few less dollars invested might yield a little return so I will stick it out...but have lost faith in the ceo. IMO
Came back in to shake rattle and boohoo a bit. Still peeved I lost a few dollars and willing to throw a few more at this pig. So I must ask...did the summer get longer or are we still riding the coat tails of Facebook and not launching the media experience Wetwinds was to be?
School has started and no word of Student Connect.
Earthsearch is the only money here so lets be real and say ONE Division, at near 1 billion shares and toxic lending company.
Yet I still invest...its like those pesky slot machines in Vegas drawing me in...always a chance.
I wish Kay would do something that represents share holder respect. He allowed us to come on board to invest in the company and turns around and does what he has...atleast give a reach around.
Small part of me believes in this machine just a thin line of hope for now. IMO
whats up everyone...?went to japan on my sold shares and came back to a discount...wish i didnt blow all my coins at the sushi bar. love the price. as some have said...great buying op now. shoebox this till summer 2013...might get a wetwinds release by next summer...peace!
712k to go and I am outta here. and I promise to take the rest of my negativity with as I exit. i do wish you all the best and will return when they get things on the NASDAQ...could happen. IMO
Thank you for your response. I have invested money back into my business and looked to cut every corner to insure I did not put my company in others hands. I am a small fry in the grand scheme of things so when I look at this company i see great potential only to be hindered by the actions of the owner. I personally feel he is running it into his pocket and the ground...just hoped it wasn't at the cost of us "the investors". so I may jump in later in the year or next no matter if the pps is a bit higher...but it will be later when all these divisions really show proof of growth and longevity. IMO
I hat to say I have changed my tune but you have put it better than I have. Not sure I wanted to save other people here money but atleast I can leave with a cleaner concious. he had me fooled as I invested money like the others. dont have the day trade account I wish I had then I would have played this more like a flipper than an investor. oh well. IMO
lets look back at pr's from the past...which were outstanding...the pps did go boom and down it fell. sure there were flippers...but he, the ceo, took that opportunity to put more shares into the market when his deals that he acquired could have gotten the funding he needed. i wish you the best on your positive campaign but this pig will need a bigger stroke of luck and a lot of new buyers to get it back up. Once I have given away my shares and licked my wounds, I might consider coming back in after the beginning of next year...who knows. GLTY
And getting played we are :)
Seems as though he may want to share the good news a little sooner. lol He may not watch the share price from day to day to focus on running the company ...but this is part of his company and this little piggy has been at these levels for more than a few days so the good papa bear should have been getting back to us a bit quicker with positive updates. Now we hit 0.0015 and it does look like the sky is falling....bet ironbridge is calling and asking for more shares to even out what they have according to the current pps. IMO
I hope it is a good one for everyone. I also hope that it does not end up being a "How to pronounce Kay's name" type of call as it was last time. Real substance needs to happen, not chit chat about hopeful deals. IMO
0.0017 for another three years, then a new name for the site will be developed and then after all that is done, RP will be sold for 10K and stock options in IronBridge. It seems the only thing exploding here is my patience. I have heard developing and business does not explode over night...how true. The other truth is each day you linger and have to pay rent, salary and others in cheap shares, you continue to go negative. If a deal is being held up due to red tape, find another one in the mean time and work that deal. Each day should have fresh ideas or ways to improve new ones. A lot of overseas trips and chats and meetings and for what...one good deal. Some will say that is good, but I say it is not AS Good as it could be. Time is money. We need a solid PR as shareholders and investors to keep us informed. Dont brag or ride the fully reporting status and stay this quiet. Release the website, call it widget.com for all I care and let the rest of us get some word of mouth advertising and watch that puppy grow. Dead in the water and floating like a log is what we are now. Three years at 0.0017 is optimistic. Speculation is all that we have here. GLTYA IMO
I hate to say that I agree with you.
Its hard to hold back my negative vibes since I still hold a decent stake in this roller coaster. Again I say they need to release the site now so we can help work the bugs out before everyone gets home from summer break and advertising kicks in if that is the sites primary money generator. As for gatis and their other programs...the Russian deal was a winner, and the PPS should have done better, but the building of the company, IMO, should have not need an increase in shares. The deal alone should show investors that this company is solid. I am mad at the decision to keep the pps down. The volume is not massive enough for me to think Kay is buying back. The low pps might be a ploy to keep ironbridge from selling off their shares...who knows. Student connect, IMO, is dead in the water until a major school district of over a million kids signs off. Little guys love to be part of a giant idea. Miss Boyle has been very quiet as of late so where and what has RP been up to? These little updates can not hurt. If I was the manager of RP, I would expect my sales team to be out there getting contracts...so where are they now. I am a novice here, but come on...even the least intelligent person can see there is much more that can be done and maybe in a better way. This stock need more exposure, more investors to see what actually has happened and invest in that, not the fluff of prospects. All IMO
month 1- kay pays himself with 240k shares. month 6- another 580k, month12 r/s and company gets new name and kay dumps his shares. when we were this low...the share count was also at a very good level. now we are flooded and with this ratio v/s company building...not seeing it. imo
lets kick this around for a minute...make a 5 mill deal and just maybe one or two people see the company they make a deal with has stock...can russia get in on the NSE and trade shares and second...why havent they or any others? we need some promotion to get new investors in...not some cross/macd/trend line...yata yata...need buyers. we have sellers...just gotta move up some and trust me...we will sell. just a thought. imo
hmmm 0.0019 Thanks for the new low (might even dip lower). Not sure why or who wants to keep this down in the pit...so good luck to you secret destroyer of stock price! it is a shame for the low levels...heard game changer for wetwinds...well KAY WE NEED A GAME CHANGER! just a shame really. it has not been day to day people...it has been week to week of horrid trade volume and pricing. Bout time for Kay to get this stock back into the game than his private piggy bank. I am fed up as are many. It is already late summer. Kids have a little bit more than a month to go and they are most of the beta testers for any new social site. Release the Cracken Kay and get your investors back up to par and up to date. IMO
ever heard of a news letter?
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The point made was a little guy grew into a big guy...geesh. As for Kay not keeping us posted...I for one would like to see a little more open communication for the benefit of all shareholders...not the few individual emails. The masses that get the news could build better interest IMO. As for the release of Wetwinds or whatever the new name may be...it needs to come out now and with a media blitz for it or do the beta now to get the bugs out before kids start school. either way...needs to come out now. Using FB as the excuse to not publish is just that ...an empty excuse. Rogue paper...where ya at? Google Chrome and Microsoft and a few others are hitting the same market and we need to be right up there...so where are the updates. We got the updates for student connect = in negotiations due to state regs...so this component is on the back burner...no biggie. we have Russian deals on the table and more coming for the rfid/gps tech...awesome. now give us some news on the two we have not really heard from: rogue and wetwinds. all IMO
i hate to say it but I am now looking at an exit point...not sure when to pull the trigger. I can not even get my 0.0024 order filled just to average down. Oh well. maybe next time.
I know...just clicking my heals and wishing for a better company.
So here is my theory on things: Company is still doing business and has forgotten we are part of its vertebrae. 2nd, why not end the quarter with low number so the fins look good when reported and another round of sell offs can occur for any sort of financial backer I suppose. 3rd ...was thinking the company was keeping us down here to by back as many shares as possible to retire cause I did not see any other real value of us staying down at these levels or these levels being a flippers dream zone...at this point I am inclined to believe my first theory. When god news occurs we get dumped on, when no news occurs we get highly speculative, when bad news occurs we still suck. The stock, as I have said before, is in the lower level trading arena and will be traded according to NO Trending or Graphed routine. The only truth is we are 640+mill full of no interest right now with a possible 1.36billion addition lurking around the corner (god forbid my numbers are inflated but where we are is still inflated...see other companies doing just fine at where we were before...200 mill and strong in penny land <--- a distant memory). Do I feel a RS is coming..maybe by late third quarter because that is just the way it happens. I am invested here...more than some and less than others and would like the stock to be treated as part of the company, not a red headed step child that helps once and a while and is put in the corner for the majority of the time until needed again. We are investors, flippers, movers and shakers, but when we put a single cent or more into this, we offered up investment money to make this company grow. Like any other financial institution we want to make money and the loans are looking shaky at this point. All in my (just woke up) opinion.