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I fear there is no going back now, my friend. The liberal strategy is working in full force, and it was brilliant if the goal was simply to seize power and not give a crap about the consequences.
That plan was to increase entitlement programs and package them with voter "education," and they have moved the black and Hispanic and ignorant young voters up in massive numbers. I think I heard that black votes alone have moved from 13% to about 20%, and once they have broken 20% in the three categories, they will take almost every election.
Those with brains and a sense of history are slowly dying, and they are being replaced with a generation that know nothing but entitlement living, video games, broken homes, and pornography on the internet. This most damaged and unintelligent and emotionally-scarred group will keep the most corrupt liberals in power, I fear, for enough years to see the country fall morally and economically.
Mad Max and 1984 may be the future indeed.
On another liberal board, I think they believe that Bush was actually the serpent in the Garden of Eden . . . that story they don't believe -- lol.
I posted the deficits for all of Bush's years and all of Oboy's with 2014 and 2015 projected very generously, and even at that, Oboy's are TWICE that of Bush -- $5.182 TRILLION versus $2.598 TRILLION. What was the liberal response? Oboy is like a janitor cleaning up the puke of a 6th grader, and he's still working on turning things around, so HIS deficits are not his, but the first 2-3 years belong to Bush. I swear they believe this crap, so there's no way to have a rational discussion.
Exactly. Those who poke fun at Cruz's father have no problem with Rev. Wright. The height of hypocrisy and ignorance and brain washing by the Teflon king.
The liberal mind is a wonder to behold. Even sarcasm eludes them. That Teflon king kool aid really makes mush of small brains, and it is apparently permanent. LOL.
By your analogy, everything is FDR's fault. Perhaps you have something there - lol.
You do realize you could spread a satire piece about cutting welfare by 75%, and you might get millions rioting before they figured out the joke?
It works both ways, but liberals are blind to that.
Kind of like how liberals, who simply want "equality" and "sharing the wealth" will sit and watch the country implode economically and liberty vanish for fear of losing a freebie benefit or to have a false sense of "safety?"
I assume you mean Barry, Barney, Nancy, Hillary, Joe, Rachael, Chris, and Al.
And let's not forget the "normal" people who influenced and molded Barry into what he is today. You know . . . his mentors and buddies. These people are not "simply bat chit crazy," now are they?
Saul Alinsky
Rashid Khalidi
Bill Ayers
Bernadine Dohrn
Frank Marshall Davis
Derrick Bell
and on and on and on . . .
Not heard of the "king" crap, but no matter how extreme and nutty, it really can't be any worse for the country morally and economically than the crazy sociopaths and psychopaths in charge of the DC asylum right now. Total destruction is the path they have us on, and there isn't much that could be done to make that worse.
This part:
Reporters uncovered video recently of Rafael Cruz calling for President Obama to be sent "back to Kenya". Pure, unfiltered insanity. In the last year, the senior Cruz has called marriage equality a "socialist plot," compared the president to Fidel Castro, and said progressives are trying to "destroy the concept of God".
Seems pretty spot on, and there would be millions of people who would agree. That must just chap liberals, eh?
You forgot to list the Congress' and President's dog trainers, chefs, gardeners, chauffeurs, pilots, and under the desk interns.
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In 14 states, you can legally marry a member of the same sex, but biologically, it's still forcing a square peg in a round nasty hole.
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PLEASE NOTE: If you use your government to force people to purchase insurance, that's not liberty.
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What do you call a liberal with no balls?
The Democratic Party.
Well look real hard, because he has to eliminate another $2.5 TRILLION just to be on an equal playing field with the worse economic President in history -- Bush -- up until the ONE took over -- lol.
Let's tally that score again for the liberals who pay no attention unless gay Rachael or hideous Nancy or car salesman Joe or psycho Harry or tingling leg Matthews or THE ONE actually say it:
Worse Economic Presidents in HISTORY
#2 Georgie "the Shrub" Bush -- total deficits $2.598 TRILLION
and drum roll . . .
#1 Barry "Teflon" Obama -- total deficits (including very optimistic 2014 and 2015 projections) $5.182 TRILLION
Using this nutcase as an example, and saying he represents Christians, simply proves your hatred of an entire group. This kind of attitude would work well with Hitler's thinking and processing.
I assume you include the CEO of the fed gov't in that list as well?
You exaggerate everything to suit your purposes and need to be "right," if only in your own mind and among your liberal compatriots. I can only guess what living with you would be like. I had a relative who believed he was always correct, and most simply avoided him or told him what they knew he wanted to hear. Sound familiar?
On taxation, I may have not been spot on, or I over-generalized, but I do believe that the South was trading their cotton and other crops for cheap goods from Europe, and the gov't stepped in and imposed heavy taxation on those goods to force the South into purchasing products from the North. Sounds a bit like OBOY-care, doesn't it?
Finally, by trying to actually imply that most liberals use the term "teabagger" due to stapling teabags on clothing, as opposed to a vulgar term that makes the gay crowd swoon in heat, once again proves to all but the mindless "magic-7" on this board that the liberals are simply, more often than not, FOS.
You see things through a filter, just as I do. The fact that your filter aligns 100% with the MSM is no coincidence. The MSM uses that same BS line about people who love the REPUBLIC (although they use derogatory terms like teabagger, etc.) "hating America," only because they equate "America" and "Federal Gov't" as one and the same, which, again, is 100% a lie.
I side with people, States, and the Constitution, and liberals love politicians, the Fed gov't, and freebies over freedoms.
I excuse NOTHING bush did. That idiot put the country on an economic collision course with death, and that idiot created the framework for so many potentially psychopath and sociopath agencies that it's deplorable. He set the groundwork for dismantling the Constitution, and I truly believe HE did not know it. Those surrounding him were truly evil.
But just as certain as I am of that, I put the teflon king and those who trained his thought patterns and still influence decisions at the highest levels in the same camp as Cheney and Rumsfeld. He has not only continued the evil bush created, but he has EXPANDED it! The fact that you see no similarity is astounding.
Going nowhere with that argument.
Next, try this. Put the "magic 7" liberal sheeple on ignore, and watch this board almost literally DISAPPEAR! It's a cute magic trick. But we know it's an illusion, as OBOY was elected TWICE. I really thought shrub would be the weirdest anomaly in Presidential history, but 57-state Barry proved me wrong.
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Same old "it's Bush's fault" does not fly anymore with those born with an IQ over 105. The list of sociopath actions of Barry is now way too long for an intelligent person to even listen when a liberal still clings to that opening line. Sorry.
Again, so the "magic 7" MIGHT actually THINK for once:
Bush Deficits
FY 2009: $1,413 billion
FY 2008: $458 billion
FY 2007: $161 billion
FY 2006: $248 billion
FY 2005: $318 billion
Obama Deficits
FY 2015: $577 billion
FY 2014: $744 billion
FY 2013: $680 billion
FY 2012: $1,087 billion
FY 2011: $1,300 billion
FY 2010: $1,294 billion
Bush $2.598 Trillion
Obama $5.182 Trillion
No amount of "spin," as the liberal MSM tries so desperately to fill liberal heads with, can change this FACT.
You actually believe, or visit with personally, the other 6 sheeple who have the ability to post here 24/7? I'm long retired, but I doubt, based on the writing ability demonstrated, that most of those "magic 7" are young, gainfully employed, and working 60+ hours a week. I'd wager a limb on it. Their words betray their blue collar, uneducated, entitled beliefs. Just so you don't take that as a slam on blue collar workers, it is not -- only the lazy ass ones living on the gov't and the evil "rich" people they don't know.
Just as you "believe" the fed gov't cares about you and is trying to make the country a better place, you also think the 7 loud mouths here are productive, tax-paying Americans who love their fellow man and country, as it was founded.
Look up "delusional," please.
Is it beyond you to focus on the total impact? In your world, the baseball team that scores 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 runs is much better than the one scoring 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17, 19. A reverse logic example, to be sure, but relevant, nonetheless. What part of simple math eludes you?
You do realize that 95% of the posts on this board, when I leave, belong to 7 rabid liberals, most probably on welfare, on the entire planet -- lol. Yes, this board has a massive impact.
I know you think that, but the reality is:
Bush Deficits
FY 2009: $1,413 billion
FY 2008: $458 billion
FY 2007: $161 billion
FY 2006: $248 billion
FY 2005: $318 billion
Notice the spike at the illegitimate and STUPID war! Stupid for the country, but very smart for those in charge and their fat pockets. Remember that DC is the ROOT of the corruption. The already corrupt become total sociopaths, and the few good become evil.
More reality you deny, or reverse the blame on poor OBOY, saying he was simply trying to recover from the evil Bush:
Obama Deficits
FY 2015: $577 billion
FY 2014: $744 billion
FY 2013: $680 billion
FY 2012: $1,087 billion
FY 2011: $1,300 billion
FY 2010: $1,294 billion
It's so easy to say OBOY had to have 2010, 2011, and 2012 just to recover from shrub. No blame! The teflon king of the sheeple of hope and change. SO NAIVE!
2014 and 2015 are projected, but when evil sits in DC, and it ALWAYS does, things can change very rapidly. Remember that as you watch what happens in the country the ext two years. Me thinks your emperor has no clothing, and even you will eventually see that.
EDIT -- add up the deficits:
Bush $2.598 Trillion
Obama $5.182 Trillion
I suppose that's where we differ. You believe the gov't has nothing to do with the many massive evils, and I believe they have their finger in every evil pie from drug running to illegal immigration to wars to illegal taxation and rogue IRS agents to assassination to banking fraud to covering for corporate greed with hush money and on and on. How can you be so naive to think the gov't is simply a good entity trying to stop all the evil in the world, when the evil emanates from DC?
I think cutting it in half from his own massive deficits as well is basically meaningless, since the trajectory is still piling on debt as far as the eye can see, If either side wanted to actually TRY, at least, to stop the financial Armageddon approaching, they would balance their budget without destroying the middle class through crushing taxation. They would end the corruption at the FED. Never happen. THEY have never been affected, but the one thing they are incorrect on is it WILL affect them at some point.
Yes. Simply pointing out for the millionth time that many intelligent people point out the flaws and evil of many on the Republican side, but the liberal masses NEVER see a wrong in their perceived "leaders."
" . . .there just aren't very many liberals who hold views this extreme . . ."
BS! Liberals hold that the FED can print money FOREVER, that deficits don't matter, and that social programs, if they "help" the "poor" always take precedence over future generations.
I'd call MOST of the liberal minds in the country EXTREME nutcases when it comes to economics and avoiding a total collapse.
Amazing how Barry and company want to justify and lay claim to anything that can be spun as positive, but under HIS watch, this is true, yet they take no blame:
"They're right, but the number of poor people and low-income households has continued to rise as well. According to the Census Bureau, there are 2.9 million more poor individuals today than in 2009, and three million more households with incomes under $25,000."
HMMM... Once again it appears your loosy-lefty propaganda amounts to nothing more than big gov't bullshit. Might it be that your so-called 'pro-government ideology' is actually harming more Americans than it helps? ...Unless, of course, if such was the whole idea in the first place. You know...'give them just enough to make them lose all interest in being productive and wanting to do better, make them beholden and feel entitled and hopeless, & they'll rise up & do yer dirty work for ya'.
Once again, do you believe things like this are meaningless or untrue or will have no negative consequences at some point which will be disastrous?
I've been away for weeks now on a non-financial assignment (we have something unusual coming out in Rolling Stone in a few weeks) so I've fallen behind on some crazy developments on Wall Street. There are multiple scandals blowing up right now, including a whole set of ominous legal cases that could result in punishments so extreme that they might significantly alter the long-term future of the financial services sector.
As one friend of mine put it, "Whatever those morons put aside for settlements, they'd better double it."
Firstly, there's a huge mess involving possible manipulation of the world currency markets. This scandal is already drawing comparisons to the last biggest-financial-scandal-in-history (the Financial Times wondered about a "repeat Libor scandal"), the manipulation of interest rates via the gaming of the London Interbank Offered Rate, or Libor. The foreign exchange or FX market is the largest financial market in the world, with a daily trading volume of nearly $5 trillion.
Regulators on multiple continents are investigating the possibility that at least four (and probably many more) banks may have been involved in widespread, Libor-style manipulation of currencies for years on end. One of the allegations is that traders have been gambling heavily before and after the release of the WM/Reuters rates, which like Libor are benchmark rates calculated privately by a small subset of financial companies that are perfectly positioned to take advantage of their own foreknowledge of pricing information.
A month ago, Bloomberg reported that it had observed a pattern of spikes in trading in certain pairs of currencies at the same time, at 4 p.m. London time on the last trading day of the month, when WM/Reuters rates are released. From the article:
In the space of 20 minutes on the last Friday in June, the value of the U.S. dollar jumped 0.57 percent against its Canadian counterpart, the biggest move in a month. Within an hour, two-thirds of that gain had melted away.
The same pattern – a sudden surge minutes before 4 p.m. in London on the last trading day of the month, followed by a quick reversal – occurred 31 percent of the time across 14 currency pairs over two years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. For the most frequently traded pairs, such as euro-dollar, it happened about half the time, the data show.
The recurring spikes take place at the same time financial benchmarks known as the WM/Reuters (TRI) rates are set based on those trades…
The Forex story broke at a time when the industry was already coping with price-fixing messes involving oil (the European commission is investigating manipulation of yet another Libor-like price-setting process here) and manipulation cases involving benchmark rates for precious metals and interest rate swaps. As Quartz put it after the FX story broke:
For those keeping score: That means the world's key price benchmarks for interest rates, energy and currencies may now all be compromised.
Perhaps most importantly, however, there's a major drama brewing over legal case in London tied to the Libor scandal.
Guardian Care Homes, a British "residential home care operator," is suing the British bank Barclays for over $100 million for allegedly selling the company interest rate swaps based on Libor, which numerous companies have now admitted to manipulating, in a series of high-profile settlements. The theory of the case is that if Libor was not a real number, and was being manipulated for years as numerous companies have admitted, then the Libor-based swaps banks sold to companies like Guardian Care are inherently unenforceable.
A ruling against the banks in this case, which goes to trial in April of next year in England, could have serious international ramifications. Suddenly, cities like Philadelphia and Houston, or financial companies like Charles Schwab, or a gazillion other buyers of Libor-based financial products might be able to walk away from their Libor-based contracts. Basically, every customer who's ever been sold a rotten swap product by a major financial company might now be able to get up from the table, extend two middle fingers squarely in the direction of Wall Street, and simply walk away from the deals.
Nobody is mincing words about what that might mean globally. From a Reuters article on the Guardian Care case:
"To unwind all Libor-linked derivative contracts would be financial Armageddon," said Abhishek Sachdev, managing director of Vedanta Hedging, which advises companies on interest rate hedging products.
Concern over all of this grew even hotter last week with the latest Libor settlement, in which yet another major bank, the Dutch powerhouse Rabobank, got caught monkeying with the London rate.
Rabobank paid over a billion in fines to American, British, Dutch and Japanese authorities and saw its professorial CEO, Piet Moerland, resign as a result of the probe. The investigation revealed the same disgusting stuff all of the other Libor probes had revealed – traders and various other mid-level bank sociopaths laughing and joking about rigging rates and screwing customers all over the world. From the WSJ:
In a July 2006 electronic chat, an unidentified Rabobank trader was informed about the bank's plans to set Libor "obscenely high" that day, according to an exchange cited by the Justice Department. The trader responded, "oh dear . . . my poor customers . . . . hehehe!!"
Here at home, virtually simultaneous to the Rabobank settlement, Fannie Mae filed a suit against nine banks – including Barclays Plc (BARC), UBS AG (UBSN), Royal Bank of Scotland Plc, Deutsche Bank AG, Credit Suisse Group AG, Bank of America, Citigroup and JPMorgan – for manipulating Libor, claiming that the mortgage-financing behemoth lost over $800 million due to manipulation of the benchmark rate by the banks.
And virtually simultaneous to that, JP Morgan Chase disclosed that it is currently the target of no fewer than eight federal investigations, for activities ranging from possible bribery of foreign officials in Asia to allegations of improper mortgage-bond sales to . . . the Libor mess. "The scope and breadth of risky practices at JPMorgan are mind-boggling," Mark Williams, a former Federal Reserve bank examiner, told Bloomberg.
The point of all of this is that any thought that the potential Chase settlement might begin a period of regulatory healing for it and other Wall Street banks appears to be wildly mistaken. If anything, the scope of potential liability for all the major banks, particularly in these market-rigging furors, appears to be growing in all directions.
A half-year ago, it looked like the chief villains in the Libor mess at least were going to get away with writing relatively small checks. Back in March, a major private class-action suit filed by a gaggle of plaintiffs against the banks for Libor manipulation was tossed by a federal judge here in the southern District of New York on the seemingly preposterous grounds that a bunch of banks getting together to monkey with the value of world interest rates in this biggest-in-history financial collusion case was somehow now an antitrust issue.
The banks in that case humorously implied that the victims might have done better to sue for fraud instead of manipulation ("The plaintiffs, I believe, are confusing a claim of being perhaps deceived," one bank lawyer put it, "with a claim for harm to competition"), and the judge seemed to agree.
Moreover, when the plaintiffs' lawyers tried to make a point about the seemingly key fact that a series of governments had already concluded settlements with the banks for manipulating Libor, the judge – the Hon. Naomi Rice Buchwald – mocked the plaintiffs' lawyers for trying to ride to civil victory on a wave of government settlements:
Wait a second. Your job here, as plaintiffs' counsel, looking for whopping legal fees, is not to piggyback on the government. Indeed, the reason that there are statutes that provide plaintiffs' counsel with attorney's fees is a recognition that the government has limited resources.
The banks must have thought they'd hit the lottery, with this potentially deadly Libor suit suddenly stopped dead in its tracks by a grumpy federal judge with an apparent distaste for plaintiff lawyers who collect "whopping" legal fees. So the victims tried to take a different tack, appealing to a federal panel in an attempt to allow them to file their suits against the banks on a state-by-state level.
But then, in a seemingly fatal blow to the private claims, the U.S. Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation ruled in favor of the banks, sending the case right back into the courtroom of the same judge who'd dumped on the plaintiffs' lawyers and their "whopping fees."
That was just a month ago, at the beginning of October, and back then it seemed like the banks might somehow escape the Libor mess with their necks intact.
Now, a month later, yet another bank has been forced to cough up a billion dollars for Libor manipulation, Fannie Mae has filed a major suit on the same grounds, and the Guardian Care Homes case is not only alive but looking like a threat to cancel billions of dollars' worth of Libor-related contracts. Not only that, many of those same banks are being sucked into what potentially is an even uglier scandal involving currency manipulation.
One gets the feeling that governments in all the major Western democracies would like to sweep these manipulation scandals under the rug. The only problem is that the scale of the misdeeds in these various markets is so enormous that even the most half-assed attempt at regulation will cause a million-car pileup.
There's simply no way to do a damage calculation that won't wipe out the entire finance sector when you're talking about pervasive, ongoing manipulation of $5-trillion-a-day markets. That's the problem – there's no way to do a slap on the wrist in these cases. If they're guilty, they're done.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/chase-isnt-the-only-bank-in-trouble-20131105#
So do you ignore, deny, or think this is meaningless? If none of those three, do you simply refuse to think about the consequences? Just curious. I know the 48% on welfare don't even know this exists, and they wouldn't care, or understand, if they did.
And, you do realize that with all the damage Bush did, Barry has added mightily to that. Forget the excuses why, because the "whys" don't really matter, in the final analysis, once a collapse begins. Do you honestly believe that if everyone in DC were a liberal Democrat, that this debt picture would be any different or the ultimate outcome of such irresponsibility and sociopath behavior would change?
U S Federal Tax Revenue $2.813 Trillion
Interest on Federal Debt $2.772 Trillion
Plain and simple...
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Makes sense to me. We all know that the only people responsible enough to own a gun are uneducated blacks, illegal aliens, and gov't thugs. A liberal's "trust level" on most things is so very messed up and ass backwards.
Guess it's all in who you believe. Some reports say premiums go up an average of 41% across the entire country. I'd guess more than 2-3% will not be happy. And, when you get a chance, see how many doctors are positive about this gov't infested change. Share that with your little group here.
Hilarious that you are pro-Israel. I'll let you contemplate that one -- lol.
That chart looks remarkably similar to the morals and economic stability of the country, but then, that's of no concern to welfare recipients, I suppose.
But hey, the stock market is doing well for those at the very top of the food chain, including all the Congress on both sides. Go billionaire Congress!
Answer too simple. Ask one of your sit at home welfare pals.
I believe a lot, but I know one thing. Many here exist on the federal gov't teat, and when that is cut off, they will finally cry foul, and their true nature will be exposed.
My guess would be they all have, just on a smaller scale and not noticed.
First, I predict nothing by timeline. Chances are, I will die as well, but that does not invalidate the End of the Age, which will arrive at some point, whether you, or your offspring, believe it or not, IMO.
Secondly, I hope you realize that what you call "my problem," I see as your problem.
Thirdly, I don't fear anything, because I know my eternity is secure, and I don't hide from anything, or I certainly would not put my thoughts here, to be "recorded," as you say, now would I?
And finally, your interpretation of my thoughts as "paranoid" or "putting myself on display" is your right, given to you by living in a land formed as a representational REPUBLIC with a Constitution. When YOUR gov't, and YOUR teflon leader remove those rights, let's talk again.