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Cannot believe you can actually get 13 shares of ETIM for every one of SLJB right now -- and people are not making the swap. Heck, look at several of the "pinks" that have been run recently and are probably about to do the retrace pinky thing just because. I am still counting on the positive press that ETIM received during their very brief 15 minutes of fame. All we need are beginnings of earnings, a few more relationships, and a move to the OTC with solid disclosure on share structure at the same time and this has to be at least 50 times undervalued. My life is leveraged on that. Never say "never." I broke that promise over the past month, but this time I may actually get a break. Are you listening Clint and company? You know the things that need to happen to make your life and mine sooooo much easier.
That was me doing business here for more shares:
http://www.wewantyoursoul.com/
Still can get 10 times the shares here for each SLJB share sold. I guess that's a positive. Those financing and those trading have to move on soon.
Actually, yes! Bye. Go rag on another company you care something about.
I remain,
SOROS
You realize not knowing the difference between your and you're is a TOU violation, but not surprising seeing how your intentions and gabeh's are so obvious. If they made "lose" and "loose" a violation, that might get rid of 50% of those posting! Do you really have nothing better to do -- either of you? Once the company delivers sales and positive results begin to head the right direction, we eventually will lose the traders and losers. Only negative was the dilution via short-sighted money lenders and inexperience by a young company in this one area, IMO. Make fun of the CFO's age if you have to be negative about everything, but those mistakes have been corrected. No one is trying to convince anyone to buy more, so there is no point in both of your continual bashing and bringing up your "better" small stocks to those here interested in ETIM.
Consider this your final warning (and your partner gabeh) about repetitive postings with no new substance or point.
I remain,
SOROS
Let's use the Law of Attraction on ETIM -- seriously. Those shareholders who look at this as a solid investment for millions of dollars coming to them. For the next month, every day, focus positive energy on what you want ETIM to do for you. Let the traders come and go. Let the manipulators scoff. ETIM will be a leader in this field and will garner huge income for themselves and shareholders. It will happen. Focus, affirm, and anticipate and expect!
The Universal Law of Attraction (LOA) is the most powerful force in the universe. It is simple in concept but practice is necessary. But once you "get it", There is no looking back! It will be part of you forever. The simplest definition of this law is "like attracts like." ther definitions include:
You get what you think about, whether wanted or unwanted.
All forms of matter and energy are attracted to that which is of a like vibration.
You are a living magnet.
You get what you put your energy and focus on, whether wanted or unwanted.
Energy attracts like energy
Everything draws to itself that which is like itself.
Just happened to pull up my account right as they put through a trade at .023 instead of .0023 -- almost had heart failure, but that is the potential and even way more if the business plan executes and you own a few million shares. Once it get back to a penny, no one will buy in those quantities. I keep telling myself that every time I can come up with another $500. To own millions of shares in a real company that grows and becomes a several dollar a share stock would sure be wonderful financially. No one every gets there without taking some risk. I keep telling myself that also. Great ideas. Great planning. Great persistence. Great alliances. Great people in place. Great manufacturing setups. Execute. Execute. Ingredients are all there now after a bump or two and one big 5x4 pot hole, but now it can all come together. I've missed so many others. This one I amin the driver's seat come new land speed record or wall.
" . . . do we have independent confirmation of licenses . . ."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,222279,00.html
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061018-083245-2232r
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/10/18/sports/s093126D00.DTL&type=bondage
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15794362.htm
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/columnists/dave_thomas/15827187.htm
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/columnists/tom_reed/15804975.htm
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/weird_news/15796551.htm
http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/15789073.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/18/sports/NA_SPT_BBL_MLB_to_the_Grave.php
Here's what I think happened. Sulja was approached by others who laid out a plan of riches and future business in Dubai, etc. that he could not turn down. He was convinced about the outcome and hence, made his PR about "one of the greatest stock market returns." The new people moved him to the sidelines but kept him close enough to use his good name. He saw early retirement and riches and was content. We'll eventually perhaps see, but I believe there were some less than desirables amongst the new people promising riches and that is where many of the over-promising PRs came from. There probably were several of them who got rich already. These same people, including this Petar fellow, kept Sulja in the dark as long as possible. Now, that everything is coming to light, Sulja has no choice, if he and his family don't want to pack up and move where no one knows them, but to step back in and try to at least save some face. I think he is still being manipulated a little by some lawyers, etc., and they are scrambling to figure out the best way to proceed and what information to give. In a nutshell, my belief is that nothing he and the shareholders were promised is reality, and what is left is basically a small lumberyard that on a stock exchange is worth probably what it was when LFWK first came out in the exchange, about .002
I am not bashing because I sold out. Sure, if it runs back to .10 I would feel ill because I sold and took a major financial setback -- for me, this was devastating, and I'm sure there are others who will have a hard time recovering like me. I've just honestly gone over and over this, and this is the story I think fits the best. I saw the red flags and let one person confirm an ROI with KPMG get me back in, but after that, I relied totally on others and faith. This was an expensive lesson. There is one particular person who has been kind to me, and I know many of his dreams have been cut short because of this turn of events, and I truly wish the best for him. We both have family members who needed this. Now, I will try my best to get it back somewhere else.
I could be wrong, but I think you will see that Sulja fellow next come out with how he was misled by others in their projections about what was going to happen with Dubai, etc. and how he truly believed he was getting correct information when he made his statement about "large stock market returns", etc., but his family has been in the lumber business for 20 years and they will continue to pursue this and that for the shareholders. What is left, probably, is a tiny lumberyard in the red, and a family who doesn't want to have to move, so that is why they are saying anything now, but the real value is probably closer to where it was when they went public with LFWK near .002
Will see. I switched over 10:1 for ETIM the other day. Now, today, that same opportunity exist again. I hope some take it. I know how painful it is to lose big on a position and feel bad for anyone who did. I have high hopes that ETIM will make things so much better for a lot of us. At least we have solid confirmation from AKC, Vatican, MLB, etc. and not just empty promises of unseen and unverifiable business in the Middle East, etc. That goes a long way for me anyway to establish confidence going forward.
I remain,
SOROS
That is true. Let's have consistent, normal progression from now on. Let's hope with experienced financial people in place now, mistakes are corrected, and the business can get in high gear.
Right or wrong, I figure I can trade every one share of that other stock which hurt me terribly last week, for 10 shares of ETIM still. I think I have enough facts to make that call (frankly, the photo would have done it alone and I only wish I had seen it a week earlier, and I am way comforted by the guys in ETIM in this regard) and will be doing so, because I think that ratio will soon be on a one-for-one basis. The higher they meet, the better for holders of both companies, but it may approach parity pretty quickly.
Other than inexperienced financing, which should be behind us, the business model here is tremendous, I think. Great idea people always in place, and now, great financial ones as well. This is not a one-man show like the other company seems to be. Night and day comparison for me, and that is why I am trading shares at 10 for 1 before they are 1 for 1.
I remain,
SOROS
Alright, that's not fair. I had in for another 300,000 and they didn't fill mine!
I remain,
SOROS
ps How many people will actually die this year and need an urn or a casket? Someone told me this business might have a limited life span. ;)
It's amazing to me how many people will invest in a mining company with no more than a permit to be able to start digging dirt. They have to raise millions to begin. Then, they have to find that needle in a haystack. Then, that needle has to be made of gold. Then, that golden needle has to be very heavy. Then, that heavy, golden needle has to be surrounded by millions of other needles. You get the picture. The point being, how many of these tiny, startup companies have a pretty good lock on a real business and a real high-percentage chance of making it in that business?
I remain,
SOROS
You do see what others don't! Thanks. That is a critical piece of news for this company and surely ups the ante.
I remain,
SOROS
I was speaking generically, but that is my hope before I die -- to find and buy large amounts of a tiny company that actually "makes it." It doesn't happen every day, but it does happen. I had one several years ago and sold during a 3 month sell off because nothing goes straight up without corrections. Didn't look at it until a few short years later, and then, only by accident. It gives you a real lump in your throat to see you would have had several million dollars had you held on! And that was on an $11,000 investment.
I remain,
SOROS
I was speaking generically, but that is my hope before I die -- to find and buy large amounts of a tiny company that actually "makes it." It doesn't happen every day, but it does happen. I had one several years ago and sold during a 3 month sell off because nothing goes straight up without corrections. Didn't look at it until a few short years later, and then, only by accident. It gives you a real lump in your throat to see you would have had several million dollars had you held on! And that was on an $11,000 investment.
I remain,
SOROS
Hopefully, this industry will work like 99% of the others, and every major company will follow suit of the first few reputable ones. These large groups don't want to spend endless hours researching whether they should align themselves with company a-z when MLB, the AKC, the vatican for goodness sakes, has already checked, approved, and done a license with ETIM. No one, especially large organizations with much to lose, wants to be tied to someone who might be a crook, so they go with what works, and no matter how much everyone bellyaches (and I've done my share) about the initial share structure shooting up for necessary funds while the company doesn't issue a PR explaining it all in detail, and the CEO justifying in his mind or at least technically his words because the insiders have not sold their shares, the company will rise or fall on their ability to sign deals and get orders flowing. So far, they have hooked some mighty large fish. Now, those of us who see such vast potential for income will wait and see how many of those fish get reeled in and served. And if the feast keeps getting larger and larger over time, some of us will stay in a lot longer than 3-6 months or a year because even though the odds are against us to begin with, those are the people who become wealthy on one particular successful company. And someone wiser than me in buying tiny companies told me that the hardest part of this whole process is to keep buying when others speak negative after negative, and then to keep holding and waiting for the payoff knowing at some point, if your research is confirmed, others will join at various levels, and your options will be much greater at every higher price point. Owning a few million shares at under a penny yields few options, but at .10 much greater and .50 way greater and $10 life changing for you and your heirs. I'm hoping ETIM will be my "story" to tell forever, and there is nothing a "NIKKI" or anyone else can say that will deter me. I don't "trade" stocks. So far, that has been to my detriment, but one day, that will change.
I remain,
SOROS
Don't one of you know a multi-millionaire who can just put a 50 million share buy in to see if we can finally move on past whoever has shares available? That's only $160,000.
I remain,
SOROS
No fight again tonight. Perhaps I am the only one who goes on 3 1/2 hours sleep a day?
I remain,
SOROS
Here I am to fight and no one around!
I remain,
SOROS
Let's hope the new CFO will straighten up everything that needs it. He has the background to do it. Hopefully, they hired him because with the huge press coverage and investigation by the investing public, they knew they were in over their heads on the financial end. If so, the elements are there for a fairy tale story.
I remain,
SOROS
Exactly. I am mad about the share structure and evasiveness of that issue. I think, however, they got caught with their pants down on the publicity which brought these facts out faster than they thought they would. The mere time table of it all made them look like even bigger liars than they probably are. Most startups do the very same things and spread out the news of share increases to make it more palatable. This one got a PR burst which amplified everything. Unless they are complete morons, they understand all the issues now. They just hired a guy who should understand everything that has happened and will happen, and he took the job knowing everything and more than we do. They have shown that they are pushing the animal thing faster than anything, and that speaks well for their marketing at least. The head guy obviously is an idea fellow and a good salesman, or he would not have swung the deals and alliances so far. On the fiscal side, he gets a big fat D at best. The new CFO, IMO, will quickly take control in that area and fix things. Focus, execution are next. If they do things right, the financial potential is gigantic! This share thing can be overcome and much more quickly than most imagine. They also, because of the alliances in hand and those probably coming, and the very nature of their business, will be in the public spotlight over and over and over. This should have a one thing feeding and building effect that continues on and on. I don't know why, because surely lots of ideas seem good, but this one already has a market that is in place and the dollars are already being spent. It's just a question of how many can be captured. And the pet thing is new, innovative, appealing, and will be a welcome and "feel good" thing for millions of people each year. Vatican -- how many devout Catholics die every year? Sports themes -- new and untested, but in today's media and sports driven world, who knows the impact of each new alliance? Precious Moments and others to come -- as heart breaking as it is, how many children die each year?
I believe the animal sales could sustain and skyrocket quickly. The new CFO should be smart enough to use the funds they have to ramp up and then let sales take over. If actual orders just blast them out of the ballpark, he should do everything possible to secure loans or whatever to end any further dilution since with real orders, they know it will be a quick payback and the bad investor relations of any further dilution, I'm sure he does not want to deal with that.
In short, I'm counting on those running the show now to understand their business, the market, and the public aspects enough to turn what I believe is one of the best marketing ideas ever into huge financial numbers for themselves and shareholders as well. The short-sided nature of early venture lenders to quickly flip on a first burst of publicity will, IMO, turn out to be a break for regular shareholders like us.
This is what I hope anyway and am banking on. It is painful to be down on something that should never have been down, but if it had not happened this way, I, for one, would never have bought this many shares of something so tiny by averaging down. I would have been better off initially, for sure, but with new, knowledgeable people on the financial side, it just might turn into a blessing in disguise for us.
I remain,
SOROS
NOT A CHANCE!!!!
Hoping ETIM will make me rich quickly so I can have a little fun for a few more years. LBWR is put away so my heirs don't have to struggle after I'm gone.
I remain,
SOROS
I just increased my position by selling another one. I keep asking myself how much money can they make ONLY from the Vet sales to pet owners. That could be mind boggling. And the fact that they are speeding up that particular process tells me they are intelligent and interested in getting the profit coming very soon. The MLB and others will also be huge, IMO, once they get tooled up and running. It won't happen in days, but I'm counting on this to do it "penny" trading until it all comes together. At that point, those who had the nerve to get in in large amounts and stomach the unknowns will count themselves extremely lucky.
I remain,
SOROS
Surely, there are at least 50 people here with $500. That would run 5 million shares in a chunk just to see what happens to the bid and ask. Heck, my average is still much higher than .005, so I'm technically averaging down! LOL
I remain,
SOROS
Yep. Took about 1 minute however.
I remain,
SOROS
Just for fun, everyone put in an order for 100,000 at .005 It's only $500. I just did mine.
I remain,
SOROS
Guilty, but this time, it is based on the DD of mine and several others combined with solid background and verifiable information and, most importantly, a history of those involved and solid numbers. Dexter Morris has a past and a proven track record there and in LBWR so far. I'm not telling anyone this is a sure thing. I'm not being blinded by anyone claiming to absolutely "know." I'm not trusting ANYONE on this. My investment in LBWR from beginning to now is based on almost everything opposite of the other one which I got hosed on terribly. I don't have all my eggs in one basket this time -- did before. It is my largest position and a pretty big bet on such a small company, but so far, I feel pretty comfortable.
I remain,
SOROS
I agree wholeheartedly! To think LBWR is paying this firm 1 million shares, I don't understand for what! Everyone needs to call Dexter or email the company and tell them they need to demand some action on the part of the PR firm. Someone to answer the telephone if it rings? Any one of us would be willing to put our cell on for that duty for $100,000 in shares, right? And we could doa credible job of it, I'm sure with just a few conversations with Dexter and perhaps a weekly update. If the share payment is for the next 10 years, then I can see it, but if it is annually, that is NOT acceptable. We don't want "fluff" PR that is typical of the pinks, but someone should be earning their keep, as you said, by getting Dexter and the company in front of the legitimate media so other legitimate investors can hear about it!
I remain,
SOROS
Palindromes are not bad luck.
I remain,
SOROS
Blessed are they that believe they are blessed.
A poem:
Entering the lonely house with my wife
I saw him for the first time
Peering furtively from behind a bush –
Blackness that moved,
A shape amid the shadows,
A momentary glimpse of gleaming eyes
Revealed in the ragged moon.
A closer look (he seemed to turn) might have
Put him to flight forever –
I dared not
(For reasons that I failed to understand),
Though I knew I should act at once.
I puzzled over it, hiding alone,
Watching the woman as she neared the gate.
He came, and I saw him crouching
Night after night.
Night after night
He came, and I saw him crouching,
Watching the woman as she neared the gate.
I puzzled over it, hiding alone –
Though I knew I should act at once,
For reasons that I failed to understand
I dared not
Put him to flight forever.
A closer look (he seemed to turn) might have
Revealed in the ragged moon
A momentary glimpse of gleaming eyes
A shape amid the shadows,
Blackness that moved.
Peering furtively from behind a bush,
I saw him, for the first time
Entering the lonely house with my wife.
Creede is not advocating a reverse. He is suggesting that the insiders could simply retire some of their shares to reduce the umber of outstanding shares. It would, in a sense, function as a reverse for the insiders as their shares would reduce, but their share price would rise. For the shareholders, it would just mean a boost in share price and an unbelievable boost of confidence in the management. For both the insiders and the shareholders, it would set up the company with a share structure going forward that would be not only a solid base, but would be very attractive to new and larger investors. It would leap frog everyone ahead of schedule to what we all believe will eventually come.
You are correct on a total reverse. That would kill shareholder confidence in the very people who have been so supportive of Dexter and LBWR -- shareholders like us. But to retire some of the insider shares, I believe they would be making the company grow faster, attract new investors who might pass just because of the OS and not dig for the real story, and give the insiders a chance to profit not only from the growth of the company via business, but also through a much faster growing share price. After all, the business side will always provide a good living for them, but it is the share price that will make them very wealthy. Having 70% of really large pie will make them richer than owning 90% of a smaller one. For me, the key factor is how much more quickly they get to that very rich point. I believe Creede's thoughts are valid and right on target. I hope Dexter will take a serious look at it. If he even only takes into consideration what it will do for he and the other insiders personally, I think he will do it. The benefit to shareholders is just an added plus, but happy and loyal shareholders is a key for a public company wanting to develop into a medium and then large public company. So many companies make the leap to the pinks for added funding to turn the corner, but then they settle for a salaried position and lose the dream and motivation of what comes with growing the business. Dexter, IMO, will not settle. He wants to grow and surpass his old company and every competitor. He will look at every viable and smart option because I think he has a score to settle and an entrepreneurial eye that most do not have. Not losing focus of the goal is key, and being the CEO of the largest and most profitable drug testing company is the only thing that will accomplish this. The retirement of some of the OS, IMO, will get them there much faster. It's not a gimmick like so many ploys pinks use sometimes. It is a solid idea that would have solid benefits for everyone.
I remain,
SOROS
Seems I am always the only guy who buys at the ask. Everyone else buys low the day before and then refuses to buy any more, instead waiting on new people to make them money. If everyone who bought yesterday and the day before would buy at least another 1/2 million, we would make the .01 and not be letting them crush it here. Come on, all you guys with deep pockets -- just get some more even if it's more than you paid yesterday! Crap, I'm down over 30% today already. I'd buy more if I could. Jeez, how about a little help!!
I remain,
SOROS
Looks like the big flippers are getting overtaken by semi-large "investors" all the time. You'll see one 2-8 million share trade go at the bid and it gets eaten up by several 200,000-500,000 buys at the ask. I'll bet most of these are people who see the potential of the company and not day traders like those turning large sells. Eventually, there will be less and less traders with any size to flip and then all the new buyers that are just hearing about this company should propel it to the next level. What do you think?
I remain,
SOROS
They need to get some sales people into the largest vet chains and offices in the country. The potential for selling urns to pet owners is tremendous. They might do a smaller version at a smaller price for this purpose. This branded urn thing has so many offshoots, it's unbelievable. They just need a few good sales people to get it rolling. Are they doing this?
I remain,
SOROS
ps just saw the dog urn on their site -- WONDERFUL idea!
That is a GREAT point! I would do it. How much is an urn, anyone?
I remain,
SOROS
I went ahead and sold my HMSG and moved it to ETIM. Only reason is I have no cash and think ETIM idea is terrific. If they can land other deals with NFL, NASCAR, etc., I think the potential to market to a high percentage of blue collar workers is almost mind boggling, and this could turn quickly into a real, profitable cash cow. Then, hopefully, the share price of a few dollars and retirement from stocks forever for me!
I remain,
SOROS
That still makes .625 as the high. Can someone check? Because retail investors have only heard that "they are making deals with MLB and hope to with NFL and NASCAR, etc." I heard several people talking about the concept yesterday, but they had no idea there was a public company or anything. This will get on many more radar screens before too long and if the price is in the few cents area, it will attract, little by little, those who love the concept and see the money-making potential of just the idea. That's when this could turn into a real stock, a real company, and hopefully, a real share price that will make everyone rich.
I remain,
SOROS
I see a yearly high in Feb, 2006 of $2.50 Is this accurate? Sure be nice to return to that!
I remain,
SOROS
Should have said, "cash broke." I wish we'd have a few more of those days where a new investor with good pockets discovers LBWR. We had one not too long ago and ran a lot of shares into new hands from .12-.14 There can't be that many more to go until all the impatient ones are gone. So one of you just put in a GTC order for a million shares at a limit of .20, and let's see if we can kiss the teens goodbye for good!
I remain,
SOROS
How about everyone buy a little every time someone bails like today? I did that for a couple of months but am now broke. Show LBWR a little love here until our blow out quarter arrives!
I remain,
SOROS