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And I might add, the spin-off can't be finalized until we all get our proxies and vote our approval. That may push us past April.
Plenty of time yet. We haven't even gotten our proxies yet.
Although you are apparently the spokesman for the ARSC message board you do not speak for me. Being at not bid sucks and is the forebearer not being listed at all. GLTA
Gosh this Ken guy seems to be a loose cannon...and he used to be so folksy. I'll bet somebody(ies) would like to kick him in the butt about now.
A qutoe from their new website:
"career opportunities we have available with our coporate clients."
What does that mean? Looks like their clients have job openings and they'll hook you up with them.
GLTA
I didn't wait to talk to a human, will try again.
oops, misunderstood their answering machine, sorry for the boneheaded mistake.
The phone number given on their website is anwered by some other company. Their website has not been updsated since Jul 2, 2008. Funny way to run a business with no phone # and no way to plasce orders, either wholesale or retail.
One question, for both the doubters and believers....Have you called EESO and tried to order any of their products..their number is shown on their website. Seems like an easy way to resolve this dispute...I did and some will be surprised. GLTA
Goodness stockrock, is there any way you could condense and simplify your post so that us few with lower IQ could get a clue as to what yall are talking about.
I guess that I could readily agree that ARSC would not become worthless if I knew what American Hydrogen has going for it. As far as I know they no longer have any rights to the Dr. Botte NG reformer. I remain long and strong...GLTA
IMO, the upcoming spinoff will be ,in effect, a reverse split.You'll get X amount of shares for each share of ARSC that you own. After that the shares of ARSC will slowly become worthless and you'll be left with only the spinoff shares. Ergo, a reverse split. Comments?
Many thanks Bigger (and Judy) and I agree that the document does seem to be with Jared as an individual and WOW----but also the agreement promises to sell EESO/ECO's manufacturing equipment to WOW at cost and to terminate production at EESO/ECO. Seems as tho this would hobble EESO/ECO a bit, at least for awhile. Also, although Jared has the formulas/recipes in his safe, these will be given to WOW at some point if not already (my reading). Even with all the good detective work that's been done the situation is still very murky.
Had to cancel my previous message to chase down some facts. Marlin Williford is listed as CFO of ARSC. On some older documents he's also listed as CFO of Labwire. He apparently is the common thread here.
Lowman, why in the world would the board think that you had any control over the company or its performance? Am I missing something?
Does anyone here doubt that judgement day is nearing for ARSC? If they don't get a unit off for certification soon it is kismet. Furthermore, if that isn't announced soon the stock price will reflect that. They are so far in hock at this point there'll be no recovery..no name change only the boys preparing resumes. On the bright side however, with a unit off for certification (if announced) the stock will likely go to 30 cents and beyond. With certification, near a dollar or beyond. I personally am tying my hopes to the last scenario. I would guess that we have no more than three weeks to know the outcome...glta, Ron
Man I must've missed something....how is it that there were more votes cast than there were authorized?
Am I the only one that was looking for a PR this morning regarding the stock holders meeting and/or other developments? These folks seem a bit too tight mouthed.
Kg versus kwh
Let me through out some numbers here so we're all using some reasonable numbers. First off don't hold me to a high level of accuracy since I'm sitting under the misters at a sidewalk cafe in Palm Desert doing napkkin calculations:
1kg of H2 equals about 30 kw in energy. If that was in electricity it would be worth about $3.46 @ California electric rates (11.54 cents/kwh). If you were to make your own kg of H2 by electolysis it would cost about $4.58 at the same electric rates. So the ACE unit, producing a kg of H2, is barely competitive at @$2/kg when you figure in the approx 50% efficiency of the fuel cell. I might add that California electric rates are the 2nd highest in the nation. As I explained, these numbers are open to correction and I'd be happy to see them....GLTA...Ron
You're right. Seems as though PR's are a catch 22, damned if you do and damned if you don't, except for certification. However, I heard some on this board downplay the importance of that event. Sure is dificult to get a consensus here.
I take that as being in support of the company not issuing any positive info...Ron
I only expect (or maybe hope) that they would publish good news when it becomes available to them.
Has anyone heard any results from the Houston (Joseph Ace) installation? Since the unit was installed in Oct. you'd think there would be something to report on by now. I've e-mailed the company and got no response. I'd sure like to see some good news soon....GLTA, Ron
Money1021,legally that'd be the safest thing to do considering the SEC laws on insiders divulging info that has not otherwise been made public.
Common you guys, surely you can do better than "did to", did not" type of disagreement. Let's hear some supporting data...Long and strong ARSC...Ron
I've been following Blacklight for years, mainly because I know of their treasurer, Norm Winningstad, while we both worked at Tektronix. Norm is the holder of several patents and, after Tek, was the founder of Floating Point Sytems which has since been bought out. Technically he's world class. So for that reason I give Blaklight some creditablity. Now, on the other hand it's been years that they've been working with hydrinos and have yet (to my knowledge) introduce a single product. I think that it was at least 2 years ago that they promised to demo a self-sustainining free energy genration device but so far nothing. Interesting for sure but I'm dubious. Also, they are a private company and there is not an opportunity to invest, maybe later....Ron
Got a card from Equiti-trend in todays mail advising me to call them imediately regarding ARSC stock. Tried to call but they close their line at 5PM eastern. Will call tomorrow of course. Anybody else out there get a notice from these guys. Looks like they're on the job....Ron
Didn't mean to sound like a basher. I am very heavy into this stock and have been for a long time. However, I like to express any confusion that I have sometimes in case anyone out there can clear it up. Maybe some of these things are only what can be answered by the company but it shouldn't hurt to ask in case some else has the answer.And maybe it will ellicit a response from mangement. I know that bashers can be maddening but I don't discourage them as I have never seen them have much impact on the price of a stock. Bashers also sometimes stimulate positive replies and DD from others on the board.
Yes, saw them, thanks for the input. I wasn't disputing that they had filed for a patent/s. I was wondering about the basis of the infringement suit. It would seem to me that maybe Relion was just throwing you know what against the wall to see if any stuck, and none did.
Google has a very good patent seach where you can seach by keyword, inventor, company, etc. It'll return nothing on ARSC. It'll show previous patents by Ben Schafer while at Intel but nothing regarding ARSC. The company claims that patents have been filed and that at this point they are proprietory until the patents are issued...Further suggestions would be welcome...Ron
Whoever heard of a patent infringemnet suit being filed when the details of the device wasn't even public information yet? No patents have been granted yet, so what was the basis for their claims? Also, why was this such a major impediment to ARSC? Lot of questions, hope we get some answers....Ron
This is the question that I sent to U of Ohio: Message: "I have a question for Dr. Botte regarding her ammonia
hydrolyzer. This came up on our message board (IHub)and we were wondering if the device would work with waste stream ammonia such as is discharged from most oil refineries?"
And the return answer from Dr. Botte: "absolutely".
I was totally surprised that she didn't qualify the answer. I would've mentioned Boaters' refinery but didn't know any details. Also, I was impressed at how responsive the university was regarding my e-mail (two days). So I would encourage anyone with questions to not hesitate sending an e-mail...Ron
There's a rumor being floated on the YAHOO board that zncm if buying two Texas companies. Anyone out there know anything? Thanks...Ron
Thanks for the links. I got the impression from the video that you need to first remove the ammonia from the waste before processing it. In the meantime, Ive fired off an e-mail to Dr. Botte posing the question. The website said I'd hear back in a day or two...Good luck to all...Ron
Boater, maybe the Botte process needs anhydrous ammonia to work with. I assume that most waste water ammonia is hydrous ammonia and loaded with other contaniments. If the Botte device could process most any fluid containing ammonia that would truly be a wonderous thing. I'll have to try to research this. If I can find an answer I'll post.
Thanks for the input. I'll call them in the morn to verify that they're representing ARSC and ask them what they've done or intend to do. I'll pobably get blown off but it'll be fun...Ron
Quick answer is; in a day or two or whenever EDGAR posts
ARSC's quaterly report, which they have filed. Good luck..Ron
Anyone know anything more about EquiTrend? These are the folks that supposedly are representing ARSC in a PR role. Although, to my knowledge this hasn't been publicly announced by ARSC. What perked my curiousity was when I called one company by that name, I found that they were peddling a subscription market news letter. So I didn't think I had the right outfit. There is a firm in Texas called Euitrend Capital that is a business development company that I suspect is the right outfit but so far haven't been in contact with them. If anyone has the contact info please post and I'll give them a call. I wanted to get a read on what kind of things they're planning (or have been doing). So far, it's not obvious. As the cute little fat kid in the commercial says "things are looking up", good luck to all....Ron