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Stervc - thanx!!!
yep, change of direction comes quick with this one, 'nuff cash to do nice website and shareholders don't care if is real business, sweet deal for the promoters - not complaining, if they can organize a pop, make us some money, a financial video game that uses real money and open for business on each trading day! got to love it - now if we could just get 7/24!!
i like change detection - have not figured out how to use but looks helpful
may some nice cash 12/13th so ready for next pop, however aw manages it - not worth beating a dead horse, just one more dead cat bounce would be fine
wait - first you say it is AW's and then question whose it might be. sounds like the right business space - none of the rah rah gang had any info that it existed (at least did not respond to my posted questions).
and does not appear to make a claim on any financials on my quick read, did I miss something?
ENCS makes some nebuluous claims without any data - heck even is statement is written goofy - you see that writing
and yep, I remain perplexed and concerned
current INCL website has an on-line purchase section but is not functional - has this been functional since the morph from Medical Instruments into INCL? have any distributors been posted or contact info provided?
Cal-Bay controls does not appear in INCL website (including not even a mention of the latest PR apparently released by INCL)
I am not sure which entity you suggest is the shell - INCL would appear to be one with no apparent way to buy it's products - Cal-BayC is not a tradable shell, could be with proper papers filed
Also is possible that Caal-BayC could sell products resulting from the PR'd agreement thru the INCL sales platform (when sales platform operating).
always curious this encs world!
LG is this the right company?? looks like in the right business space!
look like planned conferences in the coming year(s) - places BioC might have booth and presentations??? maybe???
looks like strong partnership are being developed (connection to Zenergy? maybe other announcement can be expected on Bio-based primary chemicals - the Chem sales portal that Zenergy uses would be great vehicle!!!
Cyclone thanx - yep I had seen that - more good news.
just a question, Current Gen H website has non-function sales portal - I guess they will be fixing that for us right?
also, BOVD appears to have some revenue challenges.
i am perplexed how MODC can have revenue when GenH is non-functional and BOVD has no revenues?
Any idea where the revenues are coming from? ENCS no longer listed as portfilio company (we must have missed the PR) so maybe the revenues were from the sale of ENCS's business to a third party (but wait no PR on that)
curious and curiouser
Gen H website is up but appears that the on-line market has not been setup yet - if hit the link goes to a 'please buy our on-line marketing software service" - probably just a short term problem that GenH will solve immediately!!!!
SEC filing for BOVD one of the MODC portfolio companies
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1333675/000135028409000018/zyat10q123108final.htm
Looks like BOVD has been able to dramatically cut operating expenses (2007 $450690 to 2008 $23,676) offset by small gain in interest expense (2007 $8796 increasing to 2008 $13619)
meeting prior guidance 2008 $24292 in debt was eliminated and all revenues have been eliminated
management expects this to simplify the company operations
always interesting!
david77 - you are doing pretty good in picking stocks that crash (CVSC down 75%, KYUS down 30%, EMKR down 60%) what is your secret in finding your picks? any stocks you like?
would you post the link where you saw the company make that claim/justification?
thanx in advance
appears that new financials have been published and available at SEC - lots of curious info - key point is that looks like operations have stopped and Anthony released the financials period ending 12/31/2008 by signing 2/19/2008 - must have crystalball - way to go Anthony
glad to help you laugh - - been blamed for bashing here when ask questions - I was first poster on the Cal-bay C deal on hydrogen - if bashing why post that - Cal-BayC not even on INCL website but now the rah rah crew has decided that INCL will morph into Cal-BayC and go into energy after what 4 months in security sales
hope INCL does get nice pop as additional PR's come out on the new initative!!! - have lump of stock and happy to sell on a pop - one of my other investments has apparent similar interest in similar technology - will watch here for developments and see how the transformation takes place
thanx for your post!
always hope both parties to a transaction come out happy with what they get.
honest responses - best I think will happen - I am discouraged by management, really do want the company to do well but not optimistic
sorry fat finger meant to say "hope I did not say I predict" can't find anything like that is prior posts
hope I did say I predict - usually say I am hopeful!!! try not to predict. Honestly think, really is non-existant business, Think patent likely illegally taken from EGVI without settlement of those shareholders issues,
Honestly think EA has given up on trying to do projects based on the patent - we haven't seen the license agreement but think likely that if no installations in the two year grace period, EA can walk without any payments outside of what Anthony may have seen at the closing, if anything
Honestly think that Zenergy is real company, unthink it unlikely that deal has any meat for ENCS - is good to have associated trading company but not sure who would be ENCS staff that would be getting the contracts.
Not sure about BioC, heard rumor may have been sighted on the web but have seen no link - worth checking to see.
Long ago PR - Carribean initiative - pure crap
long ago PR - UK engineering firm, pure crap
long ago PR - 225MM backlog - gone with Mello
long ago relationship - Demarco - Anthony Welch who????
B of D - Anthony Welch and no-oneelse
chances --- I am optimistic - something curious happened 2/12 and 13th - almost $2MM in real new money came into the stock (think most of the cash went to Company and Anthony) but 2M in dolars flowed in - very curious - I have puzzled how that could be a scammed trade - other than collusion with a MM, while often posted on IHUB, not sure I belive can happen - too much risk that lampasas would sell his block and walk away with some real cash --- maybe another player is on deck and we have yet to see the new game
predictions - dog ain't dead yet, think has got another pop in the carcass - hope so at least
financials - very unlikely, divi, more unlikely
so ( not being basher but frankly perplexed) they really aren't in the security device business? (I did go on website to see pricing to buy some stuff to add to my warehouse lab here - curiously no list of products comes up, no distributers to call, just a curious call our executive managment - a bit bizarre I must say).
dastardly MM selling to anyone who wants shares at 0.0002 - not holding and forcing the market to 0.002 like we all want - devilish MM's
I thought our poster wanted to buy shares at .90 each - I would take him up on that sale - shoot, I would sell him 5000 shares at .90 each!
enp is the symbol
just checked says feb 15th 2009 so ???? where are they???
not ENCS - is an operating company and is a happening enterprize - public reports, financials, all of the right stuff!!!
i don't see any direct connection in searches that would tie these guys to cal_bay or INCL - just followed up on the posts that others had made - frankly, many many Brown's gas companies in California - I have worked with one over close to the Nevada border, was going to get me a unit so I could test, has never happened, guy just waiting to get a few more parts (always), all on my nickel.
I do think BG from all of my work is bogus - claim is that a little bit of electricity to electrolize water and get hydrogen and oxygen that is combusted and you get more energy out is a fantasy - will you get some energy out of the combustion but will never get more than you put in,
have not said INCL is bogus but I am concerned that the PR (still not on the INCL site) sure looks suspicious. Usually if company in confidential negotiations, you would never see an announcement until the deatils could be revealed - why the goofiness of hiding behind an NDA - every NDA that I have would not even allow a hint of this without the counterparty's approval and thenusually no problem in saying who it is - just is goofy, I did not say S..., or B... or F.... or Bo.... - just sure looks goofy
I asked the BB when I posted if anyone had any info - even posting the PR should have been positive but the apologists come out of the woodwork
I did do the techno calcs on the other product the comapny is selling and the is a crazy claim - franly impossible if their numbers are real - just bogus crap so hope is not who you found and hope INCL/Cal_BayC has a real counterparty with a real product
I aopprecaite your posts and thoughful comments!c
Company press release "on or before"Feb 15th" not sure if said the year but should have been out - there are old fnnacials posted on MODC website but errors and obvious ommissions - use with great caution in making any investment here
not negative - just experience and observation of past behavior
Kman thanx - think my role in my investments and posts sometimes is to get beat up and have the beaters feel better - IHUB interesting usually is the fastest way to get the latest PR's on any of these companies bar none
yep lots on infomation is available - almost no facts of real techno data - to believe this (and not bashing INCL at all because no direct connection in PR to Brown's Gas), have to believe that get more energy out of a reaction (combustion of hydrogen with oxygen - well-known how much energy out the combustion - well documented and lots of data) of another reaction (that is wellknown and boatloads of data on electrolis)
just won't happen -- when revealed, will hear stuff like mon-atomic hydrogen and energy level of mono-atomic hydrogen oxidation is greater than the published literatire - yah yah yah
another claim will be improves the combustion of the primary fuel - fact is if you look at current engine tests, there is insignificant amount of un-burned fuel, limited CO (not zero but very very small) so not sure where the combustion could get improved to show the rumored effciency gains - most engine looses are in heat an I have yet to see a Brown's gas expert (I have no claims there) to explain that - is just fanciful
I would enjoy any links that tie to real techno data, not testimonials based on Bubba's trips
really hope the stock pops on the news and I can sell my sahres on the rise!!!!
good trading and posting thanx
don't etll us that !!!! Company would be selling shares to get cash to fund the new Honh Kong initiative - will be expensive so all of us dedictaed MODC shareholders just have to hold our breathe and let Anthony execute his strategy.
still no financials when the last posted numbers were out of this worrld great - not sure what he is waiting on
:,) tear in my eye
ctb - thanx for the post - why don't you spin out some facts that documents where the techno is so that the Cyclone community can establish the reality of the claims?
thanx in advance and happy successful trading!
Mick - thanx - yep lots of PR and some news - so glad Anthony is busy - frankly little meat on the bones IMO but he is getting the PR's out - real test will be financials that actually appear and curious to see if anywhere near the PR guidance on revenue and margin - if guidance (and also curious that then stated he would provide guidance) correct, then 3% margin, about equals ENCS market cap - would mean ENCS hugely undervalved and big pop can be expected if recognized by real investors - I am all for that - would much rather see a 10 times pop in PPS than divis paid frankly
so happy trading, I do apprecaite your posting - you do seem to watch and post stuff promptly!!!
just a caution - Anthony Welch does this PR and then nothing quite often - an affiliated company (where I am shareholder also), announced that financials would be posted (in similarly worded PR) on or before Feb 15th - Feb 15th came and went, all of the Welch apologists came out of the woodwork and said 'release would be by market open on Tuesday' Feb 17th (market closed on Monday), then by end of the week - still nothing that I have seen or any IHUBer has posted and we usually get the PR's pretty quick after release.
Likewise I do hope the stated release occurs but am frankly a big doubter
Mick - while maybe be a fit, quick look at company's website (http://www.nationalvapor.com/index.htm) and quick calc on the data that comes up for their vapor generator, math works out to an efficiency of 1300+% completely bogus claim and statement. I am digging into the hydrogen generator but after looking at a raft of similar Brown's gas generators, all result in claims of over 100% efficy (more energy out than energy in - completely bogus) so I am not encouraged. Will turn this company into a big scam. sorry. MODC has the same problem with their rumored acquisition on Gen-H.
supposed to have discussion of performance, revenue and debt elimination prior to Sunday and combined financials for ENCS and BioConversions out by Mar 1st Sunday. If is really going to happen, yep, should see something within next three days (one trading day).
understand - me either - I have never been able to call a T/A and get answers so that story for me is crap. and comments like the "can't enter two share counts with same number" are un-deciferable - rarely is O/S as you know the same as A/S - the other poster's comments frankly are telling that he is treading water that a real investor would know well and that poster has no clue.
Mick rather than repeating the "you should change the story", why don't you put down your understanding of the current A/S and O/S and restricted shares. I think the company's PR don't support the outrageous 6BB statements by others and the conversation with the TA likely was crap but the company's A/S and O/S is not well understood. Not complaining, the PR that discussed the issue with settling the un-wind did have numbers. Appeared to me that the settlement was work in progress and I do congratulate INCL for the transparency. Also probably time to get PR out with status of settling the stock changes and indicating status of the unwind.
about one billion claimed O/S
who knows - my read on Cal-Bay Intl is not great - board posters and aexhausted - most have no idea of the limited history I was able to dredge up
my point si that I don't believe that the Claimed efficiency - no way to know for sure and I contend that any of thousands of competent engineers would understand that the cyclone cannot acheive the claimed effcy just from the thermo
I did not claim that AI have a long of specifuic engineers who criticize the Cyclone, frankly, small group of folks even know about it
i do think that it has areas that would be high value - the torpedo driver very possibly
happy to see and hear more
data that I have been able to extract from the limited published Cyclone indicates that the max isoentropic efficy is less than 20% operating at the supposed steam conditions, ahhp to show those calcs if you can give me the specific steam conditions that the engine achieves
thanx