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It's a shame your guru forgot to tell you how to see further than your nose.. 'Always know who your enemy is' Sun Tsu, The Art Of War
We are about to find out if they are rocks or rockets
If the bag of worthless shares on your back isn't to heavy. It's the weight of worthless opinion on yours I should worry about.
You mix up excitement with emotion my man. As you mix BLOOMBERGs size with professionalism.
It is a fast-growing, lucrative business, but the intense pressure to be first is not without cost. In August, Bloomberg committed a spectacular blunder, falling for a fake press release and publishing a story that caused shares in Emulex, a California communications equipment company, to plunge 55 points in minutes.
The release, which came over Internet Wire, a service that distributes company news, claimed in suspiciously vague terms that Emulex's chief executive had resigned and the company would restate its earnings. Bloomberg reported the release as fact, even though it was unable to confirm with Emulex that the news was real.
The hoax was quickly discovered, and Emulex stock regained its value within hours. Federal prosecutors have charged Mark S. Jakob, a 23-year-old California man, with securities fraud for the hoax. But Emulex investors who panicked and sold their shares as the stock plunged are unlikely to recover their losses. One angry investor has now sued Bloomberg and Internet Wire, claiming he lost $15,000 as a result of their recklessness.
Still, Bloomberg will continue to use information from PR Newswire and Business Wire, the leading press release wires, as well as Internet Wire, without verifying its authenticity in most cases, Winkler said. Financial news services and other media organizations get press releases 15 minutes before they are distributed to the general public, fueling a furious competition among the news services to rewrite them for their subscribers during their window of exclusivity.
Given the sheer crush of news releases, wire services do not generally verify their authenticity, a task impossible under current competitive pressures. Traders watch for news intently and react almost instantaneously to news, creating intense pressure on the financial wires to be first with headlines and stories. To keep up, Bloomberg has a team of seven people at its Princeton, N.J., bureau who monitor press release wires full-time.
Oh yeah? let's see.' Meanwhile I load em.
Let's see who was right tomorrow. Your saviour LOWTRADE or lowly me :)
The first step to learning to trade pennyland is to learn to step out of the herd!!!!!! Stop believing the story or being swayed by message board sentiment. Interesting. The 'herd' is saying to 'sell' on SAEI, so you would advise buying??
Nope. The company will make millionaires of shareholders and paupers of shorts.
Oh, nice find!!!!
ON ONEXIM'S WEBSITE UNDER THE MEDIA TAB:
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8 December 2010
Bloomberg:
OAO Polyus Gold, Russia’s largest producer of the metal, plans to merge with a global rival as early as 2011 to become one of the world’s three-biggest miners of the commodity, billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov said.
Proof, link??
And did you read this Full retraction of that apology
crfield Share Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:43:28 AM
Re: martind18 post# 41638 Post # of 42052
I RETRACK MY APOLOGY;
LADIES AND GENTS:
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The emails sent from greg from orginated in the USA.
CR
Send it wherever you want, it wont change a thing. 100% legit, above board co that is going to multi dollars.
Do for me, filed with the SEC. I do love how hard the company is making you work tho'. Must be heart rending. :)
Scotch mist??
What we don't know, of course, is whether they've really done an NI 43-101 and come up with good results.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1443105/000114420410065486/v205036_ex99-0.htm
HeeHee
The obvious answer is to attract higher bids. The obvious question is Why wouldn't thay?
SCHWABB does the same, np.
No. I think Mr P has interest in starting the bidding war. Since he effectively is 'in the know' this is a very clever move by SAEI. Mr P is prob loaded to the gills with shares already. I think this is designed to MURDER the shorts. This is the MOTHER OF ALL SHORT SQUEEZES, right here, right now.This is one for the history books baby.They are choking the life out of the shorts and I think this is gonna surprise the most ardent fans with its ferocity. I been waiting all my life for this one, AND NOW IT'S HERE
No. Just balancing books from earlier trades. 70 close
If so congrats, you just paid maximum half price for your shares, well done.
Supatcha Acknowledges Unsolicited Bid
Supatcha Resources Inc. (OTCBB:SAEI)Intraday Stock Chart
Today : Friday 10 December 2010
Supatcha Resources Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: SAEI) ("Supatcha" or the "Company") acknowledges the announcement today by OXM Group (OXM) of its intention to proceed with an unsolicited bid for all of the issued and outstanding shares of Supatcha at a price of $1.75 per share.
The Board of Supatcha has commenced the process of engaging advisors to assist it in responding to this bid. The Board will make every effort to maximize value for the benefit of Supatcha's shareholders and will update its shareholders from time to time as this development progresses. Shareholders do not need to take any action in response to this bid at this time.
OXM is controlled by investor Mikhail Prokorov, the 5th-richest person in Russia. Mr. Prokorov helped Supatcha acquire the rights to develop two resource-rich mineral properties in the Ukraine earlier this year.
In addition, Supatcha is preparing a series of updates that will be released in the coming weeks as part of its Investor Awareness Program. Updates on the company via news releases, the website, newsletter programs and conference calls will facilitate timely updates to current and potential investors. Investors are encouraged to sign onto the company site and register for the newsletter mailing list, to be included in this program.
http://www.supatcharesources.com/signup.htm
About Supatcha Resources Inc. (OTCBB: SAEI)
Supatcha Resources Inc. is a gold exploration company focused on acquiring and developing mineral properties in Ukraine. Supatcha is in the final stages of acquiring two additional gold mining projects, with world-class potential, in southwestern Ukraine.
NOT TRUE. COMPANY INSIDERS OWN MORE THAN 50% OF SHARES.. TRY AGAIN EEL
83% UP AFTER 3DAYS ROUGHLY 25% UP EACH DAY!!!! MONSTER GAPPER MONDAY!! BIG PR WKEND CITING LARGER BUYOUT OFFER. EAT MY EXHAUST FUMES BABY!!!
I will mark this post.
900,000 in 20 mins
Report was 'expected' not 'promised'.. It is out of their control. Unlike your other stock.
THIS IS STERV TOP DRAWER POST CONCERNING TODAYS' NEWS....
Balamidas & All, Very Important to Expect from SAEI...
I expect for SAEI to close the acquisition of the BALKA SKYROKAYA GOLD PROPERTY that they PR-ed on 13 Sep 2010 below: Quote:
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http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=44339819
BALKA SKYROKAYA GOLD PROPERTY:
* Property centrally located in Nikopol mining district with road access and electrical power close-by.
* 282 drill holes for 93 km of core with 11,764 assays of ore zones
* Exploration shaft to a depth of 168.4
* Gold zones are tabular near vertical veins hosted in altered mafic and felsic volcanics with interbedded iron formation
* Drilling of mineralization today concentrated on 100m by 150m grid to a depth of 450m
* Deepest intersection of zones at a depth of 700m
* Average grade of mineralization: 5.71 g/T Au
* P1 resource = 6.5 million tonnes with 1.3 million ounces
* P1 + P2 resource = 10.1 million tonnes with 1.8 million ounces
* P1+P2+P3 resource = 17.1 million tonnes with 3.1 million ounces
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The beauty about this acquisition is that it immediately and instantaneously makes SAEI to be worth somewhere in the area of $60.31 per share. I will explain how, but I think you must first understand just what it is that SAEI is acquiring and why they should not have any problems in completing this acquisition.
All of the bullets above are important, but notice the bullets above that I have in bold. They have already drilled 282 holes for 93 km of core with 11,764 assays of ore zones. The exploration shaft is to a depth of 168.4m. THIS IS A MINE THAT THEY ARE ACQUIRING!
This makes SAEI immediately and instantaneously operational to begin producing gold. Notice that the combined resource of properties 1, 2, and 3 totals 3.1 million ounces. This is already confirmed and I will come back to explain why this is very important to make SAEI worth $60.31 per a little later, but first I think we must understand the importance of the terms of this acquisition to better understand how we are locked into a continued pattern of growth in my opinion…
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Under the terms of the agreement, Supatcha Resources Inc. may earn up to an undivided 90% interest in the Balka Skyrokaya gold property. Supatcha may acquire a 50% undivided interest in the property by making cash payments to Balka Skyrokaya Ltd. of $2,000,000 over four years, with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock. To earn the 50% interest Supatcha must also complete work on the property in the amount of $5,000,000 over five years, with $500,000 being spent on the property in the first year of the agreement. After earning the 50% interest, Supatcha can then acquire an 90% interest by making additional cash payments of $1,500,000 over four years (again with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock equivalent, using a 20 day value weighted average price) and completing additional work on the property in the amount of $3,000,000 over four years. All payments and work may be made or done at the sole discretion of Supatcha.
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Now pay particular attention to what is in bold above as I will repost it separately below:
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…with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock. …
And…
…(again with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock equivalent, using a 20 day value weighted average price)…
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That part is important and is one of the main reasons for the stock buyback in SAEI in my opinion. It is in the company’s best interest to buy back shares of SAEI to get the price as high as possible because they can use less stock to acquire the property the higher the prices are for a consecutive 20 day period. This is why buying shares even at these levels in the company’s eye’s or even at much higher prices is a ”win win” situation for everyone.
To now explain why I stated that this acquisition makes SAEI immediately and instantaneously worth $60.31 per share is because of the 3.1 million ounces of gold that is already confirmed from the property. Simply consider the price of gold being over $1300 per ounce to derive below…
3,100,000 ounces of gold x $1300 = $4,030,000,000 in Revenues
Now consider the same logic for the valuation models I explained within the SAEI gold and silver valuations below:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
$4,030,000,000 x 25% Net Profit Margin = $1,007,500,000 Net Income
To derive an Earnings Per Share (EPS), we need to know that the Outstanding Shares (OS) is 61,000,000 shares, but I think we need to factor in the amount of shares that would be required to acquire the property. At today’s price of roughly in the .50 per share area, I think it would definitely be maintainable to pay the $3,500,000 in cash or stock to acquire the 90% interest of the property. Let’s presume that as a worst case scenario that they will use all stock. Then that will mean that $3,500,000 ÷ .50 = 7,000,000 shares to be added to the OS. That brings the total OS to around 68,000,000 shares. Let’s keep in simple in case I missed something and just round the OS to be 70,000,000 shares.
$1,007,500,000 = Net Income
70,000,000 shares = OS
So…
$1,007,500,000 Net Income ÷ 70,000,000 OS = EPS
$14.39 = EPS
Again, consider the same logic for the valuation models I explained within the SAEI gold and silver valuations below to understand why I will use 12 as a conservative P/E Ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
12 P/E Ratio x $14.39 EPS = $172.68 per share SAEI price value
The agreement reads to be over a 5 year time frame for capturing the work to be done so I think it’s fair to presume that the $172.68 is not within a 1 year time frame, but over the life of 5 years. That means that the share price from the acquisition is fundamentally worth…
$172.68 ÷ 5 = $34.54 per share
Again, from the gold and silver valuation post below from the property already owned by SAEI, it was determined that SAEI should fundamentally trade at $25.77 per share:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
So in adding the fundamental valuation of both properties together, you get the total below for where SAEI should fundamentally trade…
$34.54 + $25.77 = $60.31 per share
Other support will come from private support to fund SAEI on the front end that I think will be compensated from the back end through some form of a royalty payment that us as investors won’t see or will maybe never hear about such details. I think we will be told just enough to know that the company has funding and plenty of it. The most that we will see will be in the form of the company receiving more nondilutive financing or something like how announced their previous $10 million in funding was delivered. I think these are the investors buying the shares in SAEI now knowing that they will get paid once it trades into its higher valuations as I have posted above that will be fundamentally confirmed from the completion of this acquisition. This is simply putting your money where your mouth is at its best. Now throw in a conference call on 20 Dec 2010 by the company to explain it all.
For inquiring minds, the 25% Net Profit Margin leaves a 75% Net Expense Margin that I more than believe captures the 10% remaining to be paid from the 90% of the value existing from having acquired 90% of the property according to the terms of the agreement. So the valuation above stands.
I must say this again, in closing… please understand, I have done valuations on many companies and it meant nothing for where the company ended up trading or existing… good or bad. It is going to not matter what I post as any valuation, but instead, it will matter what the company execute with their business objectives of growth to confirm the ”potential” I have posted to exist. If SAEI does nothing to prove to the market that they are completing their goals for growth as I have posted above, then who knows where SAEI will trade. However, if they execute their goals as they have positively shown so far for being very much on track for executing, then I expect SAEI to trade at or above that price value I mentioned above.
I believe we are Golden here with SAEI!
v/r
Sterling
THIS IS STERV TOP DRAWER POST CONCERNING TODAYS' NEWS....
Balamidas & All, Very Important to Expect from SAEI...
I expect for SAEI to close the acquisition of the BALKA SKYROKAYA GOLD PROPERTY that they PR-ed on 13 Sep 2010 below: Quote:
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http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=44339819
BALKA SKYROKAYA GOLD PROPERTY:
* Property centrally located in Nikopol mining district with road access and electrical power close-by.
* 282 drill holes for 93 km of core with 11,764 assays of ore zones
* Exploration shaft to a depth of 168.4
* Gold zones are tabular near vertical veins hosted in altered mafic and felsic volcanics with interbedded iron formation
* Drilling of mineralization today concentrated on 100m by 150m grid to a depth of 450m
* Deepest intersection of zones at a depth of 700m
* Average grade of mineralization: 5.71 g/T Au
* P1 resource = 6.5 million tonnes with 1.3 million ounces
* P1 + P2 resource = 10.1 million tonnes with 1.8 million ounces
* P1+P2+P3 resource = 17.1 million tonnes with 3.1 million ounces
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The beauty about this acquisition is that it immediately and instantaneously makes SAEI to be worth somewhere in the area of $60.31 per share. I will explain how, but I think you must first understand just what it is that SAEI is acquiring and why they should not have any problems in completing this acquisition.
All of the bullets above are important, but notice the bullets above that I have in bold. They have already drilled 282 holes for 93 km of core with 11,764 assays of ore zones. The exploration shaft is to a depth of 168.4m. THIS IS A MINE THAT THEY ARE ACQUIRING!
This makes SAEI immediately and instantaneously operational to begin producing gold. Notice that the combined resource of properties 1, 2, and 3 totals 3.1 million ounces. This is already confirmed and I will come back to explain why this is very important to make SAEI worth $60.31 per a little later, but first I think we must understand the importance of the terms of this acquisition to better understand how we are locked into a continued pattern of growth in my opinion…
Quote:
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Under the terms of the agreement, Supatcha Resources Inc. may earn up to an undivided 90% interest in the Balka Skyrokaya gold property. Supatcha may acquire a 50% undivided interest in the property by making cash payments to Balka Skyrokaya Ltd. of $2,000,000 over four years, with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock. To earn the 50% interest Supatcha must also complete work on the property in the amount of $5,000,000 over five years, with $500,000 being spent on the property in the first year of the agreement. After earning the 50% interest, Supatcha can then acquire an 90% interest by making additional cash payments of $1,500,000 over four years (again with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock equivalent, using a 20 day value weighted average price) and completing additional work on the property in the amount of $3,000,000 over four years. All payments and work may be made or done at the sole discretion of Supatcha.
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Now pay particular attention to what is in bold above as I will repost it separately below:
Quote:
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…with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock. …
And…
…(again with all or part of the payments being made in Supatcha stock equivalent, using a 20 day value weighted average price)…
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That part is important and is one of the main reasons for the stock buyback in SAEI in my opinion. It is in the company’s best interest to buy back shares of SAEI to get the price as high as possible because they can use less stock to acquire the property the higher the prices are for a consecutive 20 day period. This is why buying shares even at these levels in the company’s eye’s or even at much higher prices is a ”win win” situation for everyone.
To now explain why I stated that this acquisition makes SAEI immediately and instantaneously worth $60.31 per share is because of the 3.1 million ounces of gold that is already confirmed from the property. Simply consider the price of gold being over $1300 per ounce to derive below…
3,100,000 ounces of gold x $1300 = $4,030,000,000 in Revenues
Now consider the same logic for the valuation models I explained within the SAEI gold and silver valuations below:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
$4,030,000,000 x 25% Net Profit Margin = $1,007,500,000 Net Income
To derive an Earnings Per Share (EPS), we need to know that the Outstanding Shares (OS) is 61,000,000 shares, but I think we need to factor in the amount of shares that would be required to acquire the property. At today’s price of roughly in the .50 per share area, I think it would definitely be maintainable to pay the $3,500,000 in cash or stock to acquire the 90% interest of the property. Let’s presume that as a worst case scenario that they will use all stock. Then that will mean that $3,500,000 ÷ .50 = 7,000,000 shares to be added to the OS. That brings the total OS to around 68,000,000 shares. Let’s keep in simple in case I missed something and just round the OS to be 70,000,000 shares.
$1,007,500,000 = Net Income
70,000,000 shares = OS
So…
$1,007,500,000 Net Income ÷ 70,000,000 OS = EPS
$14.39 = EPS
Again, consider the same logic for the valuation models I explained within the SAEI gold and silver valuations below to understand why I will use 12 as a conservative P/E Ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
12 P/E Ratio x $14.39 EPS = $172.68 per share SAEI price value
The agreement reads to be over a 5 year time frame for capturing the work to be done so I think it’s fair to presume that the $172.68 is not within a 1 year time frame, but over the life of 5 years. That means that the share price from the acquisition is fundamentally worth…
$172.68 ÷ 5 = $34.54 per share
Again, from the gold and silver valuation post below from the property already owned by SAEI, it was determined that SAEI should fundamentally trade at $25.77 per share:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57307565
So in adding the fundamental valuation of both properties together, you get the total below for where SAEI should fundamentally trade…
$34.54 + $25.77 = $60.31 per share
Other support will come from private support to fund SAEI on the front end that I think will be compensated from the back end through some form of a royalty payment that us as investors won’t see or will maybe never hear about such details. I think we will be told just enough to know that the company has funding and plenty of it. The most that we will see will be in the form of the company receiving more nondilutive financing or something like how announced their previous $10 million in funding was delivered. I think these are the investors buying the shares in SAEI now knowing that they will get paid once it trades into its higher valuations as I have posted above that will be fundamentally confirmed from the completion of this acquisition. This is simply putting your money where your mouth is at its best. Now throw in a conference call on 20 Dec 2010 by the company to explain it all.
For inquiring minds, the 25% Net Profit Margin leaves a 75% Net Expense Margin that I more than believe captures the 10% remaining to be paid from the 90% of the value existing from having acquired 90% of the property according to the terms of the agreement. So the valuation above stands.
I must say this again, in closing… please understand, I have done valuations on many companies and it meant nothing for where the company ended up trading or existing… good or bad. It is going to not matter what I post as any valuation, but instead, it will matter what the company execute with their business objectives of growth to confirm the ”potential” I have posted to exist. If SAEI does nothing to prove to the market that they are completing their goals for growth as I have posted above, then who knows where SAEI will trade. However, if they execute their goals as they have positively shown so far for being very much on track for executing, then I expect SAEI to trade at or above that price value I mentioned above.
I believe we are Golden here with SAEI!
v/r
Sterling
You serious? FLUFF PR?? LMFAO. Also, the date was 'expected' for the NI and is out of their control... Oh, it just gets funnier in here.SAEI could have saved all of the shareholders by not attaching a date (Dec 5th) if they weren't goign to meet it. Now they are running around putting out fluff pr's
Listen man. When I read this it puts all in to context. I have a 3 yr old daughter and if anything like this happened to her the pain would be inconceivable. I know prayers help esp those you believe in, you do not need a God, just the belief imo. As a side note understand that what goes on here is much much more complex then just a few disparate people bashing. This is an orchestrated move by criminals who could care less about your situation, that is the cold hard truth here. Imo, you do right holding and I believe you will make your money irregardless of these people. My prayers for you and your son go with you. Sean :)I won't single any one person, as there were many, but have you ever been on this side of the PPS, still holding> Remember how you felt with people like yourselves coming to a board for the first time saying hahahahaha to you. To enjoy watching people lose money is just plain sick. Personally, I invested in this company hoping to make about $100,000. I need the money to transport my son, accross country to a TBI rehabilitation center to get the necessary rehabilitation after a brain tumor resection.
not much to get excited about I would argue with you but I cannot find the words. Huge news.
Morning New. May I ask we sticky this post.
SILVERISTHENEWGOLD Share Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:32:44 AM
Re: None Post # of 31048
SAEI SUPER DD POST,DEBUNKING SCAM CLAIMS
(scroll down, ad messed up post)
People, scams tend to not like the SEC.
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=supatcha&match=&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany
Scams do not have CEO’s hosting an investor phone conference, it is simply not necessary for the scam(just ask CPMCF) let alone two weeks after the 52 weeks high.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Supatcha-Resources-to-Host-prnews-3654118599.html?x=0&.v=1
Insiders do not hold 10% of a scam stock LOL
20.5% Massey Asset Management Ltd.
24.5% Anthera West Capital Inc.
Two separate major banking institutions do not buy 20% of your company if you are a scam either(just ask cpmcf), these investment bankers are not stupid.
I decided to write this post to debunk some of these peoples claims….
First…
“I check their website WHOIS registry address and it’s some UPS Store”
The address… 7115 W NORTH AVE, OAK PARK, IL
is for an address for a whole business park…TOTAL FAIL. Just google the address and nearly a dozen businesses will come up with the same address.
You think that person couldn’t figure out what I did with a simple google search? They did and they posted the lie otherwise to spook more longs into selling.
Another one…
“When I was long and invested here I wanted to send someone over along with another long to do assay results and when I asked WallStBull about it he said no way.”
Hahahhahahaha. What a joke. Oh ya, I’m sure you were just going to fly out to the Ukraine to do “assay results” while you trespassed on their property. Is that with your handy pocket assay lab? LMAO.
Unbelievable anyone even responded to that Thanks for the joke.
You asked WallStBull? The guy with the low quality website he attempted to pump the stock with by himself? Which isn’t wrong to advertise for the company but it seemed to backfire.
That website was put up just one and half weeks ago and it’s their first and only stock that is promoted by their “promotional company”, real promotional companies do dozens of stocks within a year. Please.
He or they claimed they were payed this 4 million restricted shares . LOL ya right.
You can go back months and see the Inside/Institutional shares were 53% of the float far before WallStBull showed up with his website, they are still 53% of the outstanding now. That means that they would have had to issue yet another 4 million shares and they didn't per latest SEC filing, which is a joke considering companies get paid 10-50K for promotion not millions. The website was FILLED with errors and just plain copied from this board’s DD. Does a company pay $1 million so some nerd can copy and paste something from a chat board on to their “website.” WELL THEY DON’T OK. THIS IS WHY WALLSTBULLS HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF AS A MODERATOR. CASE CLOSED.
Think what you want about all that but it has nothing to do with what the company is doing or saying. If you want to sell your shares because of what some guy does in his personal spare time then you might not want to trade stocks.
Same thing goes with the fake news story. There is nothing wrong with a long trying to boost a stock happens all the time, everyday. The fact that you can get talked into selling your shares, by short sellers, because of it is truly pathetic.
Another one…
“Ukrainian companies don’t file NI43101.”
The fact the short sellers boasted this one so much was a mistake, because it’s obvious and easy to look up, just google any non-canadian mining company and if they are legit, they are trying to get themselves a NI43101 no matter where they are. If you are a legitimate company and want to attract investors, you must have a NI43101 no matter what country. It is THE BUY SIGNAL for a mining company.
Companies, NOT CANADIAN, FILING NI43101...
http://www.bing.com/search?q=NI+43-101+USA&form=HPDTDF&pc=HPDTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
Another one…
“Look at those crazy Russian names on their website, you think those are real?”
“I typed in their names on the internet and couldn’t find anything…”
LIE.
Nikolae Yagodka
CFO and Director
“Mr. Nikolae Yagodka has a Masters Degree in Foreign Economic Relations from the Moscow Financial Institute….” (from supatcha website)
First thing I found when I typed in Moscow Financial Institute on google…
http://www.marketvisual.com/d/77b477dc-8376-401a-a0bd-7c037a89bd61/Moscow+Financial+Institute
Legit institution, many major Russian businessmen and government officials come from there.
YET ANOTHER PATHETIC ATTEMPT BY SHORTSELLERS
Something else I looked at today…
“I will ask you this simple question? Why are you and every other naysayer wasting there precious hours posting diatribe on a board where you have nofinancial interest, where you have no financial gain.”
THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORT THE STOCK AND YOU ARE GIVING AWAY SHARES OF A COMPANY THAT’S ABOUT TO HAVE A GREAT NI43101 BASED ON PREVIOUS DRILL RESULTS. THAT IS WHY.
You think he just doesn’t work all day and spends his time making sure people don’t get “scammed” on random investments out of his own moral accord? LOL. He is short the stock and is looking to clean up as it drops and you people are feeding into it by even replying.
I HOPE YOU PEOPLE STOP WASTING YOUR TIME ON THESE SCAM CLAIMERS ANYMORE.
NOW ON TO SOME REAL SUPATCHA DD…
SAEI- “AN exchange of wealth from the impatient to the patient.”
Authorized Shares: 70,000,000
Oustanding Shares: 61,000,000
Restricted Shares: 32,500,000
Free Trading Shares: 28,500,000
This company currently has $2.23 million in the bank as of Aug. 31 2010 as from their last 10-Q, filed with the SEC.
I think you guys need to read this again….
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/supatcha-announces-phase-ii-drill-results-for-barlevskoye-gold-property-106711893.html
Drill Hole #1593 that returned grading of 33.23 grams per tonne gold, Drill Hole #1596 where samples graded 28.21 grams per tonne gold, Drill Hole #1219 @ 29.20 g/t gold, Drill Hole #1232 @31.12 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2046 @ 15.22g/t gold, Drill Hole #2054 @ 18.05 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2162 @ 35.06 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2178 @ 38.90 g/t gold. These drill sample results continue to indicate extensive high grade gold concentrations within the Barlevskoye projects.
And this again…
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news03.htm
Historic drill results at Barlevskoye and Vynohradiv include 3.6 grams per tonne gold ("g/t Au"), 31.6 grams per tonne silver ("g/t Ag"), 3.89 per cent ("%") lead ("Pb"), and 5.68 % zinc ("Zn") across 32.6 meters; 1.9 g/t Au, 248.40 g/t Ag, 9.36 % Pb and 1.66 % Zn across 29 meters; 12.2 g/t Au, 48.7 g/t Ag, 3.27 % Pb, and 6.79% Zn across 5.3 meters; and 1.1 g/t Au, 1021.7 g/t Ag, 1.06 % Pb and 2.63 % Zn across 27 meters. Drilling highlights from within the Vynohradiv Property include 5.1 g/t Au across 2.1 meters.
The exploration information available indicates that the previous exploration work was of high caliber and that the data compilation, interpretation and presentation had been modeled after classical western methods.
This amount of grams per ton is not average mineralization, it is amazing. In a normal gold mine you are lucky if you are constantly pulling 3-6 g/pt out of the ground. From what the drill results show they are pulling a consistent 20 g/pt out of the ground which is incredible, it is basically South African mineralization in the Ukraine.
But wait, its gets better….
248.40 g/t Ag, 9.36 % Pb and 1.66 % Zn across 29 meters
1.1 g/t Au, 1021.7 g/t Ag, 1.06 % Pb and 2.63 % Zn across 27 meters.
These are bonanza grade results that exploration companies dream of, if they are not hitting 20 gpt of gold then they are hitting 1000 gpt silver. Either way you cut it, it’s highly valuable ore.
The fact its ACROSS 29 METERS is huge, that is an enormous vein, that can be measured in the OUNCES PER TON. That is 7.9 oz. per ton to be exact, at $1400 gold your pulling out $11,060 for every ton of dirt, usually costs range from $10 to $150 per ton. Since we are “near surface mineralization”, it will be the lower range. These are extremely profitable pieces of property. By the way, It’s 11.6 KM IN SIZE! Potentially tremendous amounts of gold, it is literally a question of how many millions of ounces.
The NI43101 is a nice courting mechanism for investors so they can be sure of everything and not worry, which is fine. You can wait for it but I already know what there and so do they. It was a third party who drilled it before they owned it to begin with. Do you think they just a bought a worthless piece of property and two separate companies lied in a row LOL? I laugh at all this NI43101 talk.
On to the next one…..
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news04.htm
How many times have you seen Such and Such llc gold company having issued X million shares of stock with x million warrants with an exercise price of $.35 cents a share or something. The investor or lender is not going to invest or loan unless there is a realistic expectation of this warrants being exercised as we are talking millions of dollars.
Well go back to…
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news04.htm
And read…
These funds will allow us to immediately commence with implementation of our operating strategy. The financial commitment afforded by this financing is an indication of confidence in the future success of our projects and will be significant to the growth of the Company," stated Mr. Nikolae Yagodka, Chief Financial Officer. "The exercise price of the convertible notes at between $2.10 and $2.50 per share also demonstrates the lender's confidence in the Ukrainian Gold team to provide results through the Company's programs," added Mr. Yagodka.
An exercise price of between $2.10 and $2.50 per share. You might want to read that again.
Forget about the fact… some people who have millions of dollars to loan and who are probably smarter then you, just loaned this company $10 million dollars… And just check back with lines 4-5...
“…by way of cash OR THROUGH CONVERSION OF THE SHARES OF THE COMPANY’S STOCK.”
DING DING DING… and we have a winner. This company just got a loan they could repay with stock. The way gold is moving and the time that is given to repay the loan, it could be repaid back with just a couple million shares. You know which couple million shares? The ones they are buying for dirt cheap. The loan may be able to be repaid already if they have begun purchasing shares.
Which brings to my next point, about the share repurchase.
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE LOGIC, NO ONE USES INSIDER TRADING TO LOSE MONEY. The company announced a $3 million buy back of shares
1- They are buying already. If they are already buying back shares, you are golden, you might as well not even read anymore of the SAEI board, you are just wasting your time over the holidays, instead just go pick out some nice Christmas gifts because your about to make some serious money over the next couple of weeks.
2-They are not buying already. Congratulations, you have purchased shares of a very low float company that is about to start buying millions of dollars of shares of it’s own company on top of the flood of people already buying shares.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/supatcha-announces-stock-repurchase-plan-for-up-to-3-million-109844089.html
Hey wait. This feels funny, I’ve never invested in a Ukranian company though. What about this?
As someone put previously…
“Things are a lot simpler to get done in RUSSIA. … I'm not an insider , but I'm Russian and I know how things work in the Motherland.”
I know this side of the world is great but there is something you must realize about the Ukraine that’s not like the U.S.
There are no ridiculous rules and regulations with government breathing down your neck. The EPA is not trying to shut you down.
There are no environuts to chain themselves to your equipment.
There are no Indians stopping or extorting you.
The only thing that stops you from starting a gold mining company in the Ukraine is how far you put the gas peddle down on the way there.
WHEN YOU SELL THIS COMPANY, YOU ARE SELLING SHORT LEVERAGED GOLD.
THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
When everyone says the inflation adjusted high of gold was $2300 in 1980. They are misleading you, that is the government adjusted inflation numbers. The government does not include items in their inflation index that are actually frequently bought or things you actually buy like food and energy because the inflation measurement would go through the roof and they would like nothing more then a criminal enterprise. The real inflation adjusted high of gold was $7500 and that only backed the M1 currency supply which is only a small portion of the total dollars.
So that’s how high gold CAN GO but what makes you so sure gold IS going higher?
Well what do you know, fresh news out today while writing this post…on Bloomberg news….
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-06/gold-may-advance-after-bernanke-says-fed-may-increase-treasury-purchases.html
Read on…
A quick crash course in reality for many of you…
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2010/June/US-Debt-Could-Reach-196-Trillion-by-2015/
Everytime they borrow more money, no matter who it’s from, they have to pay back the lender with interest. There are many different bills, bonds and notes, not to important, what is important is they all have different rates of interest attached to them.
The average being 3%.
Everytime one of those bills, bonds, or notes comes due, not only do they have to pay back the lender but they also have to roll over the debt as they still need to borrow the money. They cannot yet pay it back. So the sucker, same one or new, who is lending us money gets his choice of paper and we have to pay the interest again.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Our current debt is $13.6 Trillion. At an average interest rate 3%. This is an annual interest payment of $408 Billion. You can see using this very simple math I am very close to the actual number… http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm …
for 2010 it was $410 Billion.
So what happens when you get a debt of $20 Trillion. $600 Billion dollars of your tax money goes to just paying off the interest on the debt. They only collect $1.7 Trillion in taxes in the first place each year, they spend $4 Trillion, either borrowing or simply printing the difference, they call it “buying bonds.”
All this is at the current interest rates. You know what happened the last time there was a bull run on gold? So many people were slowly fleeing fiat currency and into hard assets because of all the money they were printing, that they had to raise the interest rates, in order to attract people back to the banking system.
It is a very simple equation- When you print enough money to cause the rate of inflation to be higher then the rate of interest the bank pays you, people exit the fait system into hard assets. The inflation and the fact people are going to them raise there value rapidly.
In the end, by 1980 when gold made it’s $7500 high, they had to raise the interest rate to an incredible 19%. So attractive, this rate, people couldn’t help but sell hard assets, like gold, and move back into the fiat monetary system with their wealth.
Now…The important part…
They obviously cannot raise interest rates at all when they have a $20 Trillion debt. An average interest rate of just half of what it was in 1980, 9.5%, would cause financial Armageddon for the government. All of the money you pay in taxes would go only to paying interest on debt. This is mind blowing.
So you see, the last thing they can have happen is for the interest rate to go up. It would be the end for them, so how do they keep it low. By issuing bonds quickly, cheaply, and easily, they keep the interest rate low, which really means… printing more money.
What I am telling you right now is that they are “STUCK” PRINTING MONEY. It is fairly easy to understand, I hope I could make it clear enough.
I hope you can see from this very simply math that you are also “stuck” in a permanent gold bull. The only way to end a gold bull run is to raise interest rates to get the money out of it and they no longer have that tool at their disposal because of the enormous debt.
In fact we are likely to see gold break above it’s old inflation adjusted high of $7500 and go much higher.
The question now is how much do you want to pay for your gold?
You can buy a 1 ounce gold coin right now for $1480 or you can it at leverage through stock.
SAEI has 60M shares issued and conservatively we will say 3 million ounces of gold on their 3 properties, in reality it could be much more.
You are basically getting .05 oz of gold per share with SAEI.
$1400 x .05= $70 of gold per share.
$70 x .90(90% recovery rate)= $63 of gold per share- 40%(expenses and taxes)= $37.80
So what I am telling you is at $1400 gold, you could stand to make $37.80 for every .42 you spend Monday morning.
Plug in a conservative $5000 gold and you have the ability to make $134 for every .42 cents invested. $202 at $7500 gold. A simple investment of $5000 should make you a little over a million in as little as 6 years.
(This link below may be the most important thing you read in your life)
One last thing…
You should read this article, it may be the most important link of them all, and then decide what you want to do Monday morning….
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/baltin021707.html
Splendid news.
No. The original post was posted in error and it was meant to be a pm. It was all about trying to catch WallStBull out on his NYC address.
Firstly, how do you know till you ring the TA yerself. Secondly. why would you ASSume the float is now equal to the O/S?
What this?
cjstocksup Share Monday, December 06, 2010 8:22:21 PM
Re: doberman post# 30482 Post # of 30727
Great job
Erm, do you not think the value of a company is in it's assets ie GOLD rather than a manipulated pps? Otherwise ev stock would have a bear raid that was being bought out.
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Ten years?? Wow, would think that was a long time to go to prison too, aye? :) gltu
TB, you just don't know how much I love that. Wicked.