Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:11:27 AM
SILVERISTHENEWGOLD Share Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:32:44 AM
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SAEI SUPER DD POST,DEBUNKING SCAM CLAIMS
(scroll down, ad messed up post)
People, scams tend to not like the SEC.
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=supatcha&match=&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany
Scams do not have CEO’s hosting an investor phone conference, it is simply not necessary for the scam(just ask CPMCF) let alone two weeks after the 52 weeks high.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Supatcha-Resources-to-Host-prnews-3654118599.html?x=0&.v=1
Insiders do not hold 10% of a scam stock LOL
20.5% Massey Asset Management Ltd.
24.5% Anthera West Capital Inc.
Two separate major banking institutions do not buy 20% of your company if you are a scam either(just ask cpmcf), these investment bankers are not stupid.
I decided to write this post to debunk some of these peoples claims….
First…
“I check their website WHOIS registry address and it’s some UPS Store”
The address… 7115 W NORTH AVE, OAK PARK, IL
is for an address for a whole business park…TOTAL FAIL. Just google the address and nearly a dozen businesses will come up with the same address.
You think that person couldn’t figure out what I did with a simple google search? They did and they posted the lie otherwise to spook more longs into selling.
Another one…
“When I was long and invested here I wanted to send someone over along with another long to do assay results and when I asked WallStBull about it he said no way.”
Hahahhahahaha. What a joke. Oh ya, I’m sure you were just going to fly out to the Ukraine to do “assay results” while you trespassed on their property. Is that with your handy pocket assay lab? LMAO.
Unbelievable anyone even responded to that Thanks for the joke.
You asked WallStBull? The guy with the low quality website he attempted to pump the stock with by himself? Which isn’t wrong to advertise for the company but it seemed to backfire.
That website was put up just one and half weeks ago and it’s their first and only stock that is promoted by their “promotional company”, real promotional companies do dozens of stocks within a year. Please.
He or they claimed they were payed this 4 million restricted shares . LOL ya right.
You can go back months and see the Inside/Institutional shares were 53% of the float far before WallStBull showed up with his website, they are still 53% of the outstanding now. That means that they would have had to issue yet another 4 million shares and they didn't per latest SEC filing, which is a joke considering companies get paid 10-50K for promotion not millions. The website was FILLED with errors and just plain copied from this board’s DD. Does a company pay $1 million so some nerd can copy and paste something from a chat board on to their “website.” WELL THEY DON’T OK. THIS IS WHY WALLSTBULLS HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF AS A MODERATOR. CASE CLOSED.
Think what you want about all that but it has nothing to do with what the company is doing or saying. If you want to sell your shares because of what some guy does in his personal spare time then you might not want to trade stocks.
Same thing goes with the fake news story. There is nothing wrong with a long trying to boost a stock happens all the time, everyday. The fact that you can get talked into selling your shares, by short sellers, because of it is truly pathetic.
Another one…
“Ukrainian companies don’t file NI43101.”
The fact the short sellers boasted this one so much was a mistake, because it’s obvious and easy to look up, just google any non-canadian mining company and if they are legit, they are trying to get themselves a NI43101 no matter where they are. If you are a legitimate company and want to attract investors, you must have a NI43101 no matter what country. It is THE BUY SIGNAL for a mining company.
Companies, NOT CANADIAN, FILING NI43101...
http://www.bing.com/search?q=NI+43-101+USA&form=HPDTDF&pc=HPDTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
Another one…
“Look at those crazy Russian names on their website, you think those are real?”
“I typed in their names on the internet and couldn’t find anything…”
LIE.
Nikolae Yagodka
CFO and Director
“Mr. Nikolae Yagodka has a Masters Degree in Foreign Economic Relations from the Moscow Financial Institute….” (from supatcha website)
First thing I found when I typed in Moscow Financial Institute on google…
http://www.marketvisual.com/d/77b477dc-8376-401a-a0bd-7c037a89bd61/Moscow+Financial+Institute
Legit institution, many major Russian businessmen and government officials come from there.
YET ANOTHER PATHETIC ATTEMPT BY SHORTSELLERS
Something else I looked at today…
“I will ask you this simple question? Why are you and every other naysayer wasting there precious hours posting diatribe on a board where you have nofinancial interest, where you have no financial gain.”
THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORT THE STOCK AND YOU ARE GIVING AWAY SHARES OF A COMPANY THAT’S ABOUT TO HAVE A GREAT NI43101 BASED ON PREVIOUS DRILL RESULTS. THAT IS WHY.
You think he just doesn’t work all day and spends his time making sure people don’t get “scammed” on random investments out of his own moral accord? LOL. He is short the stock and is looking to clean up as it drops and you people are feeding into it by even replying.
I HOPE YOU PEOPLE STOP WASTING YOUR TIME ON THESE SCAM CLAIMERS ANYMORE.
NOW ON TO SOME REAL SUPATCHA DD…
SAEI- “AN exchange of wealth from the impatient to the patient.”
Authorized Shares: 70,000,000
Oustanding Shares: 61,000,000
Restricted Shares: 32,500,000
Free Trading Shares: 28,500,000
This company currently has $2.23 million in the bank as of Aug. 31 2010 as from their last 10-Q, filed with the SEC.
I think you guys need to read this again….
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/supatcha-announces-phase-ii-drill-results-for-barlevskoye-gold-property-106711893.html
Drill Hole #1593 that returned grading of 33.23 grams per tonne gold, Drill Hole #1596 where samples graded 28.21 grams per tonne gold, Drill Hole #1219 @ 29.20 g/t gold, Drill Hole #1232 @31.12 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2046 @ 15.22g/t gold, Drill Hole #2054 @ 18.05 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2162 @ 35.06 g/t gold, Drill Hole #2178 @ 38.90 g/t gold. These drill sample results continue to indicate extensive high grade gold concentrations within the Barlevskoye projects.
And this again…
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news03.htm
Historic drill results at Barlevskoye and Vynohradiv include 3.6 grams per tonne gold ("g/t Au"), 31.6 grams per tonne silver ("g/t Ag"), 3.89 per cent ("%") lead ("Pb"), and 5.68 % zinc ("Zn") across 32.6 meters; 1.9 g/t Au, 248.40 g/t Ag, 9.36 % Pb and 1.66 % Zn across 29 meters; 12.2 g/t Au, 48.7 g/t Ag, 3.27 % Pb, and 6.79% Zn across 5.3 meters; and 1.1 g/t Au, 1021.7 g/t Ag, 1.06 % Pb and 2.63 % Zn across 27 meters. Drilling highlights from within the Vynohradiv Property include 5.1 g/t Au across 2.1 meters.
The exploration information available indicates that the previous exploration work was of high caliber and that the data compilation, interpretation and presentation had been modeled after classical western methods.
This amount of grams per ton is not average mineralization, it is amazing. In a normal gold mine you are lucky if you are constantly pulling 3-6 g/pt out of the ground. From what the drill results show they are pulling a consistent 20 g/pt out of the ground which is incredible, it is basically South African mineralization in the Ukraine.
But wait, its gets better….
248.40 g/t Ag, 9.36 % Pb and 1.66 % Zn across 29 meters
1.1 g/t Au, 1021.7 g/t Ag, 1.06 % Pb and 2.63 % Zn across 27 meters.
These are bonanza grade results that exploration companies dream of, if they are not hitting 20 gpt of gold then they are hitting 1000 gpt silver. Either way you cut it, it’s highly valuable ore.
The fact its ACROSS 29 METERS is huge, that is an enormous vein, that can be measured in the OUNCES PER TON. That is 7.9 oz. per ton to be exact, at $1400 gold your pulling out $11,060 for every ton of dirt, usually costs range from $10 to $150 per ton. Since we are “near surface mineralization”, it will be the lower range. These are extremely profitable pieces of property. By the way, It’s 11.6 KM IN SIZE! Potentially tremendous amounts of gold, it is literally a question of how many millions of ounces.
The NI43101 is a nice courting mechanism for investors so they can be sure of everything and not worry, which is fine. You can wait for it but I already know what there and so do they. It was a third party who drilled it before they owned it to begin with. Do you think they just a bought a worthless piece of property and two separate companies lied in a row LOL? I laugh at all this NI43101 talk.
On to the next one…..
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news04.htm
How many times have you seen Such and Such llc gold company having issued X million shares of stock with x million warrants with an exercise price of $.35 cents a share or something. The investor or lender is not going to invest or loan unless there is a realistic expectation of this warrants being exercised as we are talking millions of dollars.
Well go back to…
http://www.supatcharesources.com/news04.htm
And read…
These funds will allow us to immediately commence with implementation of our operating strategy. The financial commitment afforded by this financing is an indication of confidence in the future success of our projects and will be significant to the growth of the Company," stated Mr. Nikolae Yagodka, Chief Financial Officer. "The exercise price of the convertible notes at between $2.10 and $2.50 per share also demonstrates the lender's confidence in the Ukrainian Gold team to provide results through the Company's programs," added Mr. Yagodka.
An exercise price of between $2.10 and $2.50 per share. You might want to read that again.
Forget about the fact… some people who have millions of dollars to loan and who are probably smarter then you, just loaned this company $10 million dollars… And just check back with lines 4-5...
“…by way of cash OR THROUGH CONVERSION OF THE SHARES OF THE COMPANY’S STOCK.”
DING DING DING… and we have a winner. This company just got a loan they could repay with stock. The way gold is moving and the time that is given to repay the loan, it could be repaid back with just a couple million shares. You know which couple million shares? The ones they are buying for dirt cheap. The loan may be able to be repaid already if they have begun purchasing shares.
Which brings to my next point, about the share repurchase.
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE LOGIC, NO ONE USES INSIDER TRADING TO LOSE MONEY. The company announced a $3 million buy back of shares
1- They are buying already. If they are already buying back shares, you are golden, you might as well not even read anymore of the SAEI board, you are just wasting your time over the holidays, instead just go pick out some nice Christmas gifts because your about to make some serious money over the next couple of weeks.
2-They are not buying already. Congratulations, you have purchased shares of a very low float company that is about to start buying millions of dollars of shares of it’s own company on top of the flood of people already buying shares.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/supatcha-announces-stock-repurchase-plan-for-up-to-3-million-109844089.html
Hey wait. This feels funny, I’ve never invested in a Ukranian company though. What about this?
As someone put previously…
“Things are a lot simpler to get done in RUSSIA. … I'm not an insider , but I'm Russian and I know how things work in the Motherland.”
I know this side of the world is great but there is something you must realize about the Ukraine that’s not like the U.S.
There are no ridiculous rules and regulations with government breathing down your neck. The EPA is not trying to shut you down.
There are no environuts to chain themselves to your equipment.
There are no Indians stopping or extorting you.
The only thing that stops you from starting a gold mining company in the Ukraine is how far you put the gas peddle down on the way there.
WHEN YOU SELL THIS COMPANY, YOU ARE SELLING SHORT LEVERAGED GOLD.
THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
When everyone says the inflation adjusted high of gold was $2300 in 1980. They are misleading you, that is the government adjusted inflation numbers. The government does not include items in their inflation index that are actually frequently bought or things you actually buy like food and energy because the inflation measurement would go through the roof and they would like nothing more then a criminal enterprise. The real inflation adjusted high of gold was $7500 and that only backed the M1 currency supply which is only a small portion of the total dollars.
So that’s how high gold CAN GO but what makes you so sure gold IS going higher?
Well what do you know, fresh news out today while writing this post…on Bloomberg news….
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-06/gold-may-advance-after-bernanke-says-fed-may-increase-treasury-purchases.html
Read on…
A quick crash course in reality for many of you…
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2010/June/US-Debt-Could-Reach-196-Trillion-by-2015/
Everytime they borrow more money, no matter who it’s from, they have to pay back the lender with interest. There are many different bills, bonds and notes, not to important, what is important is they all have different rates of interest attached to them.
The average being 3%.
Everytime one of those bills, bonds, or notes comes due, not only do they have to pay back the lender but they also have to roll over the debt as they still need to borrow the money. They cannot yet pay it back. So the sucker, same one or new, who is lending us money gets his choice of paper and we have to pay the interest again.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Our current debt is $13.6 Trillion. At an average interest rate 3%. This is an annual interest payment of $408 Billion. You can see using this very simple math I am very close to the actual number… http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm …
for 2010 it was $410 Billion.
So what happens when you get a debt of $20 Trillion. $600 Billion dollars of your tax money goes to just paying off the interest on the debt. They only collect $1.7 Trillion in taxes in the first place each year, they spend $4 Trillion, either borrowing or simply printing the difference, they call it “buying bonds.”
All this is at the current interest rates. You know what happened the last time there was a bull run on gold? So many people were slowly fleeing fiat currency and into hard assets because of all the money they were printing, that they had to raise the interest rates, in order to attract people back to the banking system.
It is a very simple equation- When you print enough money to cause the rate of inflation to be higher then the rate of interest the bank pays you, people exit the fait system into hard assets. The inflation and the fact people are going to them raise there value rapidly.
In the end, by 1980 when gold made it’s $7500 high, they had to raise the interest rate to an incredible 19%. So attractive, this rate, people couldn’t help but sell hard assets, like gold, and move back into the fiat monetary system with their wealth.
Now…The important part…
They obviously cannot raise interest rates at all when they have a $20 Trillion debt. An average interest rate of just half of what it was in 1980, 9.5%, would cause financial Armageddon for the government. All of the money you pay in taxes would go only to paying interest on debt. This is mind blowing.
So you see, the last thing they can have happen is for the interest rate to go up. It would be the end for them, so how do they keep it low. By issuing bonds quickly, cheaply, and easily, they keep the interest rate low, which really means… printing more money.
What I am telling you right now is that they are “STUCK” PRINTING MONEY. It is fairly easy to understand, I hope I could make it clear enough.
I hope you can see from this very simply math that you are also “stuck” in a permanent gold bull. The only way to end a gold bull run is to raise interest rates to get the money out of it and they no longer have that tool at their disposal because of the enormous debt.
In fact we are likely to see gold break above it’s old inflation adjusted high of $7500 and go much higher.
The question now is how much do you want to pay for your gold?
You can buy a 1 ounce gold coin right now for $1480 or you can it at leverage through stock.
SAEI has 60M shares issued and conservatively we will say 3 million ounces of gold on their 3 properties, in reality it could be much more.
You are basically getting .05 oz of gold per share with SAEI.
$1400 x .05= $70 of gold per share.
$70 x .90(90% recovery rate)= $63 of gold per share- 40%(expenses and taxes)= $37.80
So what I am telling you is at $1400 gold, you could stand to make $37.80 for every .42 you spend Monday morning.
Plug in a conservative $5000 gold and you have the ability to make $134 for every .42 cents invested. $202 at $7500 gold. A simple investment of $5000 should make you a little over a million in as little as 6 years.
(This link below may be the most important thing you read in your life)
One last thing…
You should read this article, it may be the most important link of them all, and then decide what you want to do Monday morning….
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/baltin021707.html
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