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Come on! Why haven't we heard something? I think the financing is the hold-up. They'll want to buy all the shares they can under 0.10, that's ten cents, not .001. They'll save money plus not have to hand out Trustcash shares. They can have Trustcash. Just let me put my shares up to sell for something between 0.05 and 0.10. That's five and ten cents per share.
Please help explain for those of us who may not fully understand. We tell our broker to offer X shares at .05, then wait for the auction. If more than enough people offer shares they prorate those shares so I may get .05 for X - Y. If less than enough shares are tendered at .05 I will get .05 for the shares I tender. Then, my remaining shares will get .10 plus a share of Trustcash???!!! -- that is, if I'm brave enough to wait this out - years??? This helps Trustcash finance the deal at a lower amount than .10/share. Whatever happens after the auction is back to "GO" but doesn't get anything but yet another shaft!!!??? Help me! Do I have it right??? I'm thinking to offer X shares to make me whole and hold the rest forever..... ?????
They're still going through with the deal, I believe. Sales are slow because there aren't many shares out there floating around. I tried to buy 100k yesterday PM with no luck. Finally, got'em today at 007 - James Bond. What reason would they have for stringing us along if the deal was a bust? They'll come through yet.
The "Fiddle Theory" in action! The longer two parties "fiddle" around with a deal the LESS LIKELY it is to be a success. From "Winning Through Intimidation" by Robert J. Ringer, 1973. And again I ask, "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? ...are we even close to getting there yet?"
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? We've been lathered-up since December. Are we ever gonna get a shave? My daddy always said, "Talk is cheap. It takes money to buy whiskey." So, show me the M-O-N-E-Y!
Go with Chuck - NO problems - 10 years. I have never had any kind of issues with Chuck like you've been discussing about eTrade. Even when you were talking about NOT being able to buy PAVC or trade it with eTrade, I had no problem buying. In fact, when I place a "buy", usually, by the time I check the status it's already filled - usually, well under 60 seconds after I press the button.
Another Virginian holding....
Me too. That's my average price for 100k shares.
What .0001 bid? Not mine.
We need a DATE for the merger! Then is when we PAVC shareholders SHOULD get the .10 per share. We will then be transferred over to TCHH shares -- supposedly, a one-for-one exchange. Let's just sit on our thumbs for now and wait. Yes, I said SIT on our thumbs. We're not babies anymore!
I looked at my account with "Chuck." He lists Paivis as PAVC.OTC, with a big volume friday of 4,846,098 - double the norm. But, the last update was friday. We'll have to wait and see what's up in the AM.
OK! Then why does the Level II show only 43m? Again, I ask, what good is Level II and how reliable are their numbers? Why don't they have 100m shares listed? Maybe, the 43m is just what's being traded?
Well then, how can the Level II, detailed quote, cite 42.39 m?? Are they lying? How can we believe anything they list then?
Click on the Level II quote and read the outstanding shares. What else is there to go by? 42.39 Million, to be exact.
I wish these guys would just pay-out the moola for the Paivis shares, 43 million at .10 - very doable with the money they've got. If they'd pay-out first then scramble the management -- that's OK with me. They could fire the guy who paid the money out -- make him the scape goat. Then, give us our TCHH shares and let'm fly.
How so? It just shows a scrambling of the top company muckity-mucks.
Roll baby roll! Why no upward movement? For a small company like this it should skyrocket. Is this the work of the "Market Makers?"
Yes! I bought 40000 with Chuck on 3/24/08, to settle on 3/27/08. Hey, that's today. Yea! Have a nice day. And, I hope we all make our $ goal on this deal. That 10 cents per share premium would be nice -- provided they don't do a reverse on us first.
Do you actually think they will just offer us a premium for our Paivis shares? Wouldn't that be great? Well, 0.65 would be nice but I'd take 0.30 per share and run. What you think?
Is that why Paivis is now subpenney? LOL
I would also like to know what is unique about the Trustcash card. It could be that you can buy things anonymously, as opposed to using a regular credit card. In other words, a cash card like American Express, Paypal, Fidelity, etc......
Is there more? Does anyone know? I have Paivis stock -soon to merge into Trustcash. What is the "value-added" of this merger? Paivis was not in the cash card business.
I think crespulin is "pullin" our legs. He's not "pullin" the wool over this kids' eyes!!! Merry Christmas and try to poke your meaningless mishmash down someone else's chimney! Either that or give us a reference!!! Ho Ho Ho. I'll bet you don't have a reference - except what you conjured-up!!
OK OK So, it wasn't their fault. I was inspired to buy Paivis and I believe, too. But, probably for a different reason. I believe I will recover that which was lost, stolen, or destroyed - even through my own negligence - as the Lord has promised - double, sevenfold, seventyfold, or more. And, if not then something even better will be headed my way. Have faith in Him who is able to deliver.
Yes. Yes. See http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/879072/ and my reply yesterday of #23005. We've been had!!!!!!! After this plays out, who knows what either PAVC or TCHH will be worth. They're in the hotseat now. We'll be lucky to get anything.
Trustcash dropping hurts PAVC as well. Since it's being "dumped" there'll be no confidence in PAVC. I wonder if the merger is in jeopardy????
Why did TCHH fall today??? Take a look at this: http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/879072/
They're named as one of the companies being "pumped & dumped!" Methinks we've all been had!!!!! Did you all get a kiss along with it? This article came to me on my Google News Alert for Trustcash. It should explain a lot. And, if these bozos are doing something to manipulate the stock for their own gain it could be ILLEGAL!!!
Good points made, #'s 22893 & 4. I agree. We'll just have to wait. Why are you saying 90% of O/S are restricted? That would only leave about 12M to trade, right? Then, the price should move more in both directions based on buy & sell. There's been some big buy and sell orders filled. Still only down movement.
I agree, not short selling. IMO good news is needed to move the price up or it will keep trailing off. We need to hear what the terms of the merger are going to be. That may do it - assuming it's good. Don't you agree?
OK. Maybe I read you wrong. But what about the buy restrictions with Aturd, eTrade and Scottrade? I haven't had any trouble buying PAVC with Chuck. Also, what do we wait for next, the merger details? They were supposed to have a PR on that B4 November 30th. Also, TCHH is in a good position to emerge what with this new security cash card they've got. So, we get TCHH shares. What's wrong with that? All you guys that have PAVC shares coming should be on the train too. It may just take some time. But, TCHH has been integrating their new acquistions fairly quick. I still think we'll all be OK and stand to gain. If we get preferred shares instead of common, we should get a good dividend, too. Probably, not until next year though. What's your take?
So, please tell me why you think all the outstanding shorts have not already covered? I know if I had shorted at $1.50 or .70 or even .15, I'd have closed-out my positions long ago.
Thank you all for your up-to-the-minute posts. It's easier for me to come here and read-up on the latest than it is to Google for it or Yahoo for it. Thanks. I'll be watching the price today. It should move up. Trustcash is over $1.50. I will sell at .50 if it gets there. Although, I'd sure have liked to seen a dollar or more.
Please tell me where there's a list of all your abbreviations, like TIA? Thanks.
I believe that TCHH is an emerging company with good potential to be bought out and/or to be upgraded. Look at all the news releases on Trustcash. We are supposed to get a share of TCHH for each one we have of PAVC. I also know there are risks and these companies mislead, lie and manipulate the stockholders to their own advantage. That being said, we can only "GAMBLE" on what will happen in the hope we will make money on this and NOT GET SCREWED. Let's have that announcement!!!
Remember y'all, this deal is supposed to go down by November 30th, this Friday. And, trackgirl, quit flirting with argonath. ;;)), or whatever, LOL.
I still beeleeve... that we're all going to make money on this. The announcement will be verrrrry soon. The volume is up. Someone knows something they're not telling us. I hope it pops BIG when the news comes.
Yup. Got it at 2:20 PM. Well, I hope we hear some GOOD news B4 Thanksgiving. That should make us all very thankful. I'm on the road tomorrow. I'll hopefully be surprised when I come back in the PM.
I still believe we're going to make money on this. So much so, that I bought another bunch of 10k for $300 late this afternoon. Stick with me kids and you'll be fart'in through silk shorts!
As I already said in No. 22566, there are NO preferred shares listed for TCHH, nor has there ever been any dividends paid. I assume, after this merger, there WILL be preferred shares. Check it out at http://www.otcbb.com. We don't know what they will be worth.
As I already said in No. 55555, there are NO preferred shares listed for TCHH, nor has there ever been any dividends paid. I assume, after this merger, there WILL be preferred shares.
So, if we get preferred shares of TCHH after the merger, they should be valued at or around $1.30. This will be something new for TCHH. Presently, they don't have any record of paying ANY dividends on either common or preferred shares. Check it out at http://www.otcbb.com. That being said, maybe they will start paying dividends at some point. However, how do you go about selling the shares? Most companies sell preferred shares at a fixed price with a promised return. We certainly should hear something about that when the details of the valuation and merger terms are disclosed. Make sense? I bought PAVC to make money. I either want to sell my converted shares - some or all - of TCHH to cover my investment or wait till the dividends start rolling my way. The way TCHH is rolling, that should'nt be too long. By the way, the 8-K DOES SAY "preferred" shares.