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The "Hamilton trust" dosent even have the Gremlin. Reality is that Kevin is a 3 time loser that puts scam companies together. He lived with his brother for 3 years with zero income, has been sued by numerous people for this type of scam. But as is with these great countries (Canada and US)you are given multiple chances even after you do time. RFNS is housed in a studio apartment very close to the corner store, as each one of us invests Kevin goes down and grabs a six pack. Look back and ask yourselves: Is this really how a real company does business, is this how a real company talks about their potential investors? We are all invested and we ALL will lose our investments. Some more than others----a lesson learned. Pennies are a high risk gamble and they rarely pay. The money best spent from now on is with attorneys trying to get whatever is left back to the stockholders. Loans DO NOT take this long if REALLY approved.
Does anyone HONESTLY think this is a viable company or just a constant dangling of carrots while the Hamiltons figure out where there are no extradition treaties? This Hamilton trust I keep hearing about is nothing more than a few old coins and marbles from their great-great grandfather. Its housed in an old coffee can.
The Hamiltons have ZERO credibility. They have run 3 companies down to the point of basically stealing the money. This loan will NEVER happen. Go back on the boards and look at what they have done. NOTHING but vacant promises. They keep dangling the carrot and because people want to believe in honesty they capitalize. The company is nothing but a shell to steal. The Off Shore alert newsletter boys investigated this company months ago and found out what they really were. Kevin is a 2 time loser and actually lived with his brother for 2 years with ZERO income. The "Hamilton Trust" is complete BS............Sue these guys, thats the only way to MAYBE get part of your money back or just write it off against your legitimate investments. Either way---its a loser
There is always a reality buster in the group.
Why dont we just all group together and purchase controlling interest in this company. It wouldnt cost much and with the influx of the 10mil (IF it comes)WE could make this program turn around. Any takers? Might be interesting :)
The only thing the 10mil can do is raise the PPS to a point where we only loose 95% of our investment instead of 100%. Hamilton and clan CANNOT handle their finances. Remember Einstein's definition of insanity? Same goes here. Its been proven time and time again. MAYBE the funds come thru BUT dont expect this to be a viable company anywhere or anytime. Just pray to whatever higher power you pray to that Kevin's checkwriting hand gets arthritis and the money will help the PPS, if his hand works correctly kiss the funds goodbye.
I would agree 100%-------with this bunch, only the Shadow knows (or the liquor store owner down the street from the comfort apartment) ;)
In all reality I am really would not be concerned with a 10 day wait for funding IF this was a reality situation. Its the past history that makes me question these comments and statement
I post this with the risk of being VERY redundant but, REAL COMPANIES DO NOT POST THREATS ABOUT POTENTIAL INVESTORS ON PUBLIC WEB-BLOGS-----Real business people just dont do this. Its plain DUMB, childish and completley irresponsible. The note would have been somewhat believable without these type of comments. They want the credit of being an actual company but act as if their knuckles drag the ground. WHY?????
"We are doing our best to close this deal" Does that sound like a sure thing??? Then the subtle threat "or else" Sounds like the business circles I travel in. Everyone threatens potential investors/finace companies. Happens all the time. Finally I am convinced the funding is real <grin>
Lets be real---IF it was good news HOBIE's statement would be positive and ITS NOT----Another Dodge and Deflect move. Its been MONTHS since the $$$ was supposedly going to be in the coffee can at Kevin's comfort apartment.......whats another few MONTHS? i.e. NEVER
bomo is 1000% correct here. If one of my staffers, partners etc. was forwarding insider investment information I would fire them on the spot, not to mention the lawsuits that would follow. This is ILLEGAL----PERIOD. Is everyone so down on this stock not to care about what is really happening? This clan needs to be taken down and prosecuted. MAZ---is this how real businesses work from your experience? Every time I read this blog I am blown away from the free and easy "emails" from the Hamiltons, not to mention the insinuations of people on the "inside" of this loan process. This is NOT reality kids.
good analogy-----except somewhere along the line we are all getting scre--d
At least our good buddy Kev' should post a PR: "Well the jigs up, I got all your money and now I'm spending it in Beleize---anyone want a Mai-Tai?" A little cleansing of the soul might help.
Its been 8 days since the "Its gonna happen" deadline----what is going on?? HOBIE whats happening?
Bye BUZ-----------we'll miss you ;)
It was the public water service collecting their late water bill. Reliant gave them 2 million shares to cover it. (they might have been a little light)
Thats not true. I've heard that Bill Gates spies on his potential investors and makes threats publicly so they "do what they are supposed to" --------- Have you really ever heard a real CEO make these type of comments? WOW. (I think I hear the giddy-up of "Ol Dudley Do-Right coming down the street) Hide the beer and turn off the TV---maybe he'll think we arent home!
Let's go thru this email:
"We are under the impression he was speaking of tomorrow." But we dont really know since we have been drinking cheap beer all day---besides who is "we" This is a 1 person company. (maybe its his cat?)
"We have been also consulting with an insider of the the transaction not known to Mr. Miller and his contact is located in London" We have a mole going thru his trash. Would a CEO of a real company really answer an email with the aforementioned statement???
"He has indicated to us that Mr. Miller is being truthful"----PLEAZZZZE, what is he doing, reading tea leaves??
"I know from personal experience that these deals can face many little glitches and especially the lawyers can hold up things just for the smallest item" ----Since I've been chased by attorneys for years
"lets face it, he is still in London, has been for almost three weeks" He's on vacation----the company is supposedly based in the US, are Euros the only currency that is taken in Canada???
"I am sure he would like to come home to Texas" ----Why? London is a great place to be.
"Besides, he knows we will go after him if he does not live up to his company's commitment to Reliant"------ With WHAT money????? In the last legal battle KH was in he couldnt pay the attorneys
"I am not willing to give up at this point as we have everything to gain in being patient unless we learn things are not as advertised by his company" ------'Cuz I've got beer left and there is a Oprah marathon on this weekend
"So I will keep you posted" -----With more unexpected delays
We have held our breath enough they are going to need to ask for "little boy blue" for lack of oxygen
Are we having fun yet???
Gthanks-----any updates??? Maz. I will forward some info to you next week (if possible)I need to talk to counsel prior to sending.
girl, finn--you have to know by now we are talking about a guy that lived off his brother for years without a job. Has sued people (in the last few months) and couldn't pay his legal fees when he lost. This company is based in a "comfort" apartment in Ontario and the guy running the company is sitting in his boxers, scrtaching himself watching Oprah on the Oxygen channel drinking Old Milwaukee's Best. Wondering if the next knock on the door is going to be Dudley DoRight taking him to the "big house" The "quotes" have been a joke for 2 months now-----business that have the capability of loaning 10mil do NOT work like what is described. Its getting to the point of slapstick humor.
Maz. Your might be correct but the reason why the Reliants exist out there are because of that type of attitude. "Oh well, I guess thats a lesson I needed to learn" IF every slimeball scam artist was prosecuted we wouldnt have to worry about scams, would we? They type of people I know dont give up. They dig in and finish it. IF they loose, fine they did it. In this instance there is alot more incriminating information than what has been posted. I wouldnt bet on our 'ol buddy not spending a few nights with his tail in a corner wondering if he'll wear lipstick this eve.
After some due diligence, I have located David Miller. He is a 101 year old that lives in a trailer park in FL. The problem is that he has lost his tresaure map he bought at a local swap and sell. Can you imagine what his neighbours think when they look out the backdoors of their singlewides? "Hey Martha, old man Miller is looking for that buried pirate loot again, I bet he promised it to that Hamilton guy in Canada"
WOW, I read good 'ol Kevin's so called update and was suprised. The funding has been delayed, again. I had a new house bought and a trip to Eroupe planned with the profits. I am so dissapointed. How am I going to feed my 12 kids and 4 Ex-wives? The only thing that has been delayed is Kevin ptting the final touches on his evacuation plans. Maybe Belize, I hear they dont extradite.
let me know----------I also have a couple of other "shareholders" that will be interested. That may be a bad term, in order to be a shareholder you had to really own part of something. I dont think anyone really owned part of anything here. A handfull of fake #$&@ is hard to spend. :)
After weeks of research a Canadian company is alot easier to sue than a US company. Actually, there are quite a few Canadians interested in this "project" We'll see in the next few days where this takes us.
Thanks Mom----will do :)
Your way to bored.
Accecptable at thie point but in the next few months all indicators are quite a bit tighter. We do think the housing market has hit its low but it will be 6-18 months before it comes back to what we think is good. I do completely understand the volatility of pennyz, thats why I play BUT I have never been invested in a stock where the releases have been like these----read them back all the way to '05. They come out with all the fanfare and whoops "it fell theough", "we just received 250mil" whoops its gone, "we funded 2 mortgages" by the way, their our vacation homes---where did it go? Either these guys are the most unluckiest people in the business world or they are completely stupid. Hell, maybe I am----but I'd like to think I'm not---who knows
Finn--I am an Exec. VP for a fortune 500 company in the lending business and have been for 24 years. I play with these penny stocks for fun. They are legal gambling, no more no less. Normally this is the same as BlackJack--not this time, the dealer is dealing from the bottom of the deck. That's what makes this different. But for a company to say the funding was coming in Nov. then Dec. then set a date with "quotes" from a supposed letter received then push the date another 10 days in absoutley, 100% no way, not in this lifetime normal. Reality check is a few on this board are stating the facts as they see them. Be it a personal opinion or not. Others are working the pump 'em up program. I cant believe your stupid, maybe blind but not stupid. Quit standing up for this deal and call it what it is-----a shell game. Either that or your in the game.
Where's the 10Mil??? Oh Kevin, come out and play
He did spin this thing well. You have to have big Ba--z to run a scam like this. Kev' (we know your reading this) you worked the scam well.
OK its 5PM in Kingston ON (the land of ficticous milk and honey) and no funding PR----what next kids? Or do we take Wednesday the 16th to end at midnight, the witching hour.
Its Wednesday-----Where's the $$$$$$$
Buz, I'm sure you have your finger on the send button for that press release you were working on :)
Unforseen delays? I see now, your on the Reliant public relations crew and your practicing your press releases. At least you wont need spellcheck.
What??????????
done----------
Last mortgage I arranged was for 1.75mil. and it took 38 days. Reliant has been getting their loan for around 100 days--------BIG difference.
The 1st PR stated it would be in the next 30 days---then add 30 days, then next week, then by the end of the month and now because of the holidays it will be the 15th. Last time I checked the holidays were at the end of December---its not like they moved Christmas up a few weeks and forgot to tell the Hamiltons----more BS. Gthanks----let me know what I can do to help----Finn, gotta love your approach.......makes me wonder why your sticking up for these guys.
funny how it works----------go by the "office" and nobody is there. 1 day later a PR comes out to say "we moved our offices to a cheaper location so we can focus on maxamizing the business" Now a investor group has had it with the posted "PR" Bull**** and is going forward with legal action and WHAMMO a new PR stating everything is wine and roses........does anybody else think that this is an odd coincidence?----------
I am with you Gthanks-----let me know how I can get involved.
The reason why people like the Hamiltons continue to do this is because groups of investors dont go after them, they wait for someone else to do it. So they bitch and complain on blogs and it ends there. At some point you either need to quit complaining because there is inherent risk to investing or go after them because they are crooks. The choice is yours.