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Thanks for the welcome guys
I'm not a premium member so I can't post here except during happy hour. If NCTI or ENGY takes off I'll grab a premium membership
Bosh looks like he's going to be out tonight against the Clippers...but I think we'll still prevail. The east is wide open and all the raps need is a wide body...the problem is they're cheap and won't exceed the cap...at least not intentionally.
Lots of Subs in my hotstockchat email...
From yesterday...
GBMI $ 0.0022 0.0004 22.22% 59,623,655 Another sub trying to go...
MYIQ $ 0.0089 0.0004 4.71% 13,560,400 Another sub moving today.
NNCO $ 0.028 0.0102 57.3% 15,652,318 We called this one at a penny...
ISYN $ 0.0091 0.0021 30% 31,354,642 Been watching, finally moved today.
CTKH $ 0.0024 unch 135,975,265 Still watching for a move.
Lots of subs from hotstockchat e-mail today...
IVOC $ 0.0046 0.0009 24.32% 234,051,937 Ditto... Nice news today.
AGRD $ 0.0115 0.0031 36.9% 71,867,653 Finally over a penny...
CWIR $ 0.012 0.0015 14.29% 4,849,308 Has a history of moves... watching again.
IDGE $ 0.0078 0.0022 39.29% 42,589,060 Bouncing back nicely today.
NNCO $ 0.011 0.001 10% 940,500 Watch this one closely... new to the list. Due a move.
CTKH $ 0.0023 0.0002 9.52% 107,712,868 Hummm.... is it time?
me neither shmolton...its away
from krill66 and no...I'm not a shareholder, I subscribe to those things in case a stock I own starts getting pumped.
If you want I'll email it...
Just prv msg me an addy and I'll forward it.
This is the JRSE disclaimer...From Nov. 11/03
"The purpose of this advertisement is to provide publicity for the advertised company, its products or services. This advertisement is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell or hold securities and does not provide an analysis of the financial position of the company. StockTalk Central, and affiliates (STC), publishes reports providing information on selected companies that STC believes has investment potential. STC is not a registered investment advisor or broker-dealer. This report is provided as an information service only, and the statements and opinions in this report should not be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security. The above report is the opinion of STC and is not a guarantee that the target price for the stock will be met or that predicted business results for the company will occur. STC accepts no liability for any loss arising from an investor's reliance on or use of this report. An investment in JRSE is considered to be highly speculative and should not be considered unless a person can afford a complete loss of investment. An affiliate of STC has been hired by the company for the publication and circulation of this report, and received four million free trading shares of common stock of JRSE by a third party non-affiliate (Inv Mgmt) and STC and affiliates have no relationship to the third party. STC intends to sell all or a portion of the JRSE stock at or about the time of publication of this report. Subsequently STC may buy or sell shares of JRSE stock in the open market. Since an affiliate of STC has been compensated there is an inherent conflict of interest. This report contains forward-looking statements, which involve risks, and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in the forward-looking statements. For further details concerning these risks and uncertainties, see the SEC filings of JRSE including the company's most recent annual and quarterly reports."
Re JRSE...
Back in November I got some (imo) spam emails touting JRSE...if you like I can post the disclaimer or forward the emails to those who ask.
ENGY Moving on no news
ENGY Challenging the 50DMA again...
Still no news or promotion out there.
subs in my email from hotstockchat...
IVOC $ 0.0032 0.0002 6.67% 87,830,042 Sub-penny that needs a lot of volume.
CYTP $ 0.0083 0.0021 33.87% 117,587,338 Big move on this sub-penny. Sub pennies are hot.
AGRD $ 0.008 0.0007 9.59%
12,544,006 Watching closely.
How high will ADZR go???
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2050571
Amazing what some promotion and MOUs can do!
blazerfan...
I'm not familiar with Randolf...if he's from Portland I'm not sure he reflects the squeaky clean image the Raps seem to prefer
Matt...A question???
It seems we share the same opinion of Herr Hollen, (I've read a couple of your responses to him). I was just curious if you could give me a general answer to my earlier inquiries...either in this forum or with a Priv. msg.
ADZR...A house of cards???
ADZR was reccoemended to me in another forum and I did my DD...this was some of what I found out:
A firm by the name of Barrow Street put out an 'independent' research report on it. I use quotes on independent because of payment received for said report.
http://cobrand.knobias.com/otcbb/story.htm?eid=3.1.50f99ba9c9da5dc7faa14cbd5fd8ecb6857a4ceea7062e2ee...
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr15957.txt
There are a couple of articles at stockpatrol.com that I won't bother linking. Aditionally they had a CFA (Certified Financial Analyst) put out a reccomendation on them as well some months back...
http://www.equitynet.net/
I took the liberty of checking the performance of other stocks reccomended by equitynet...and to say the least I was not too impressed.
Of course homeland security is a hot sector...and it seems ADZR is attracting alot of attention. Do a search of ADZR on Yahoo's Message Boards and I think you'll find its being touted on 20-30 boards currently. I'm watching this one to see how high up it can climb...I do consider it a house of cards à la Enron and Bre-X before their meteoric rises, that's my opinion.
Any thoughts?
Buyers Moving In?
Volume still needs to pick up on a consistent basis, but late day activity looked encouraging to me...
15:41:16 0.007 100000 OTCBB at Ask
15:05:32 0.007 100000 OTCBB at Ask
14:07:32 0.007 25000 OTCBB at Ask
14:06:07 0.007 24500 OTCBB at Ask
http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Corporate_Snapshot.html?DB=SQL&template=corpsnap.htm&Sym...
As far as the chart goes...stochastics are pointing up and still show oversold imo but to a lesser degree. MACD looks to be trending back up toward the zero line. Regardless though with volumes this light I consider TA to be less reliable.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=ENGY,uu[w,a]dallyiay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUp14,3,3!La12...
I used to live in Portland...
Back when the Blazers won it all in 77...Blazermania. Walton Lucas Twardzik (sp) Gross Steele Hollins, amazing team. Too bad about Walton's ankles or they would have repeated in 78.
Loved Sabonis but too bad his best years were well behind him by the time he got to the NBA. Not too many big men with hands as soft as he had.
I live in the Toronto area now and our team is at least respectable finally. They really need a wide body to fill up the paint...I don't think it matters if he can score or even be a big rebounder, just someone a la Bill Wennington or Luc Longley. The Raps have no shortage of scorers and their rebounding isn't bad so long as they can put a big body out there.
ONEBGG...any thoughts?
Just curious if you'd care to speculate on any avenues ENGY might pursue to garner some attention. With the digestor side of the business effectively in moth balls it would seem, well that leaves us with Colvico. I doubt that Electrical Contracting will get the average OTC (Cletus & Brandeen imo) investor all hot and bothered no matter how much revenue it generates.
ONEBGG...Happy New Year On and Off Topic
Hopefully ENGY starts attracting some attention...imo that's all that's needed at this point.
As an aside I'm a former Beaverton resident (Portland address) and was there in '77 when the Blazer won it all...Walton, Lucas, Steele, Twardzik (sp)...Gross, Hollins...memory banks run dry after that.
Time to mention ENGY again?
I think so, its been a while...and technically things are looking better in my opinion.
Any Thoughts on NCTI or ENGY?
They're both near their lows. Stochastics indicate an oversold situtation imo on both. ENGY has done nothing to attract broad investor interest as near as I can tell and NCTI is pretty quiet as well with only 1 PR in the last month.
Any thoughts?
No worries marty...
ADZR doesn't fit my risk tolerance is all. I prefer bad or no news coupled with what I consider technical signs of accumulation. I've appreciated your opinions on the stocks we've discussed. FWIW I expect a company doing all it can to promote itself to have a strong looking chart.
Some ADZR DD...sorry but its not bullish
One of NCTI's RB (imo) bashers was touting it recently, and I did perform some DD...here's what I found:
Barrow Street Research put out a reccomendation on ADZR, here's an sec article that might be of interest:
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr15957.txt
Here's one of stock patrol's articles:
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/articles/adzone2.html
They had a CFA (Certified Financial Analyst) offer a reccomendation...but if you read the report closely it seems the analyst didn't analyze their finances in detail
As to the touting on yahoo...it seems to me alot of effort is being poured into attracting buyers:
http://search.messages.yahoo.com/search/messages?tag_M=Adzr&fname_M=txt_main
As I said, I'm not saying ADZR's PPS won't increase...and substantially. Its merely my opinion that great caution is warranted when a company seems to be doing a full court press in terms of trying to attract investment.
Yes I do MartyMan...On & Off
NCTI has had a couple hotstockchat mentions and put out a PR about a month ago...so my optimism there is more cautious. ENGY currently is doing nothing to inflate their share price as near as I can tell. Of course I hope that situation reverses itself as it did when with IDNW and DTMG...two stocks I bought near their lows but sold too soon
Careful On ADZR...imo
Check stock patrol...also you might want to do a search on 'Barrow Street' at sec.gov They're one of the firms offering an opinion. If you do a yahoo search of ADZR you'll notice too that its being touted on a lot of boards.
Not saying the PPS won't go up...but as with any OTC stock great care is wise.
I'm liking the look of ENGY's chart...
The volume is drying up...but given that over 150,000,000 shares have been reported as trading over the past 6 months, well I'm not too surprised. Over that 6 month period those buying have been doing so despite TB's resignation, no IR efforts and a new low reached back in October. I consider it possible those buying in spite of the bad news and lack of promotion may be waiting for some positive movement...as am I.
ENGY is rated neutral across the board here:
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=ENGY&num1=41&cobrand=&mode=stock
And as wait at americanbulls.com which I take to mean the same as neutral:
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=ENGY%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&MarketTicker=...
The chart in of itself however is encouraging in my opinion:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=ENGY,uu[w,a]dallyiay[dc][pb50!b200][vc60][iUp14,3,3]&...
Stochastics turned up, and with them being well below 20 (both fast and slow) the indication is oversold. The one caveat I would throw in is that the volumes are currently so low as to render TA less reliable in my opinion...hence those neutral/wait opinions are likely very sage.
As to the volume picture, a look back from early July to present indicates that when volumes do pick up...on balance the price moves have tended to be positive.
Hope everyone is having an enjoyable holiday season Even those that take issue with my bullish outlook here.
Nice Post Enviro....
Back through the summer and into October there were likely numerous reasons why shareholders were fearful. Bowers' resignattion back in June and the 8K filing of same in July. The attainment of a new low in October below .005 cents. Novemeber 14th filing that earnings would be late and overall zero effort at attracting investors to the stock. With all that I'm sure many probably decided to sell...but someone (or someones) had to be buying or the PPS would have dropped below .005 and kept on going. If you want to buy low you need others willing to sell low.
Then on Oct. 20th, just after reacing a new low volume shot up to over 19,000,000 more than 10x the preceding 20 day average...and the PPS more than double off its low. That attracted some attention as ENGY was included in a couple CRG emails after that date. Things were quiet until Nov. 14th when they filed that their 10QSB would be late. Some probably decided to bail on that news...but more than enough buyers jumped in to send the PPS higher as over 8 million traded and the PPS closed up.
We have pulled back of late...but volumes have also been very light.
I don't think we're anywhere near what your post describes as stage 5. The activity we've seen, buying on bad news and larger than average volume on balance being +...these imo are indicative of accumulation. The name of the game is to accumulate low.
Phil...
The stock is ENGY, quite a compelling picture technically in my opinion. Check out the volumes through last summer on into mid/late November. I consider it a distinct possibility that ENGY is undergoing what some refer to as smart money accumulation.
Why anyone would be buying is not readily apparent. There have been no PRs, no promotion...as far as I'm aware they don't even have an IR department. But for some reason back in October almost 20 million traded in one day and the PPS more than doubled off its low.
Again on November 14th a large volume spike of 8+ million. On that day they reported that their financials would be late. I can see people being fearful and selling due to late earnings...but if you want to buy low you do need others willing to sell low
When the financials finally came out they weren't too shabby at all from where I sit (I've seen much worse in companies with a much higher cap).
All they would have had to do is issue a PR touting positive 3rd 1/4 revenue and Kazing in all likelihood.
As for our friend hollen...he was quite happy touting it when the PPS was much higher and the company was putting out PRs. Now??? Why he's investing so much time and effort in bashing now, I have no idea.
FWIW I steer clear of companies doing all they can to promote themselves. For one such example check out ADZR.
I've reported our friend on a few occasions to no avail. I thought I'd get away from dancing with bashers on RB....they were all over IDNW's board when it was around 1/2 a cent and I was buying...likewise on DTMG when I was bullish around 2 cents.
bullrider....
Got your message and I concur 100%...sorry but I am but a poor unpaid member to I-Hub so must reply in public FWIW he's been (imo) bashing a stock he once touted which I consider extremely curious. FWIW my opinion on that same stock is very bullish.
Matt....A question
I was just wondering if you'd received my message about hollen...
Only 66,000 traded so far. Supply Shortage?
IMHO, a distinct possibility.
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From hotstockchat.com
IBZT $ 0.0026 unch 30,230,136 Watching subpenny with lots of volume.
RNKE $ 0.0061 unch 15,305,769 Keeping on watch...
jmhollen Off Topic...(and some on topic)
Here is probably my best post to IDNW's RB board:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=IDNW&read=26346
This was at a time when IDNW's RB board had attracted alot of posters bent it seemed on convincing shareholders to sell...and prospective investors to stay away.
You'll have to pardon my overly suspicious nature with respect to your bearish sentiment here, but I've seen tons of it on other stocks aside from IDNW...DTMG and NT as well as others that have gone on to significant gains.
I have only been investing since 2000 (not the best time to start) and the market handed me my tuchus on a platter. Rather than whine and moan I learned as much as I could as to the manner in which the market functions.
My largest influence so far has been the books of Joseph Granville, particularily 'New Strategies of Stock Market Timing for Maximum Profit'....(written in the 70's so not so 'new' anymore). I've done well picking close to the botttom on IDNW DTMG and NT....but not well at picking the top...I sold too soon. As I said before though, you don't get hurt taking profits
ENGY is trading around .0060 cents, that is the current reality. There are shares being sold, and shares being bought at around this price point. Why anyone would be buying in quantities like back in Oct (almost 20 million one day) and November 14th (7 or 8 million)....I don't know. But I do consider it a possible harbinger of good things to come.
No hype, no pumping...just a risk taker who likes to try and guess the bottom. I've been wrong as well with Viasystems (VSGI.OB if memory serves...now private).
jmhollen...
I wasn't aware of I-Hub when I was investing in IDNW...if you're interested in viewing my thoughts I had plenty when I was loading up on IDNW around .006 cents...I post to RB as ledrog and will post a hello if you wish.
There was plenty of bearish commentary on IDNW back then, but I did very well I'm used to the type of discussion we've been having, I had it at RB on IDNW and on DTMG. Both times I sold too soon...but you don't get hurt making profits.
OT outside opinion requested:
If you have the time (and or inclination) I would appreciate it if you'd give a look to the discussion taking place on ENGY's board:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=1024
I'd be interested in knowing if anyone thinks I could be defined as a 'pumper'...or if there likewise is any what might be considered 'bashing' going on.
TIA
Again, john...
Point out where I have distorted something you or anyone else has said. I will most often cut and paste so as to avoid that impression...as I did with your remark about hiding revenue.
I have no agenda outside of a mature discussion of ENGY...I'm sorry if that does not fit with your desire to cast ENGY in as negative a light as possible.
Again jmhollen...
I'm not one to resort to TOS reporting as a rule, but I feel compelled.
I am not attempting to 'twist' or confuse anything. I would like to discuss the facts. If you're posting fact I merely ask that you substantiate it with a link or a reference.
If the actions you describe as being advisable by a director of a publiclly traded entity...well I'm surprised you ever were bullish after ENGY's acquisistion of Colvico.
It is my expectation that directors within publicly traded corporations and their subsiduaries strive to deliver $$$$ to the bottom line and value to shareholders.
Personally, as I have said on numerous occassions....I prefer to rely on the price volume movement in a stock when formulating an 'opinion'. I do not like to see alot of redundant promotion geared toward enticing investors because it is futher my opinion that promotion can make TA look falsely bullish.
With Respect to the Chart:
ENGY most certainly was going down, and was trading below 1/2 a penny in October. However with no news or promotion (please point out any company attempts at IR if I missed them), ENGY bounced back up over 1 cent on volume well above the average.
While some may have been sufficiently worried by their Nov. 14/03 filing that earnings would be late....the market certainly didn't respond in a bearish manner.
Since then it has been trading flat and down, on volume nowhere approaching the 19+ million it rebounded on or the 7 or so million that traded when they filed that earnings would be late.
It is my opinion, based on the price volume movement of ENGY and on fundamental considerations that ENGY represents a speculative buy.
That is hardly an iron clad endorsement. ENGY comports significant risks in my opinion and I consider it a very real possibility that I may lose some or all of my investment. Please do you own DD and reach your own conclusions.
If you chose to share your opinions please be respectful of other posters. If you have fundamental data please substantiate it with a link.
Regards
ledrog
jmhollen...
Please point out any posts of mine where I was 'intentionally insulting'??? I don't believe you'll find any, but if you do I would appreciate you pointing them out to me...and you are certainly justified in having them deleted.
You did post that you believed Colvico was 'hiding' revenue. Given that Colvico is a wholly owned subsiduary company I'd be interested in your opinion as to the legality.
You made some very alarming charges in the post to which I'm responding. Specifically you said they'd have to apply any monies raised to:
"past due accounts, consultant fees in arrears, past due executive salaries, employee salaries that were undelivered, the cost to complete the purchase of and overhaul the engine-generator at Tillamook that Mike Funk ran out of warranty, etc."
Respectfully...Is there anything you can link to substantiate those assertations? If you are unable to substantiate those claims via an SEC filing or some other source...Well you'll have to excuse my suspicious nature but I'm not one to take the word of any poster to what is an anonomys forum.
I have been extremely respectful of you jmhollen in spite several acerbic replies. I merely ask that you extend to me the same courtesy.
ENGY is a publicly traded company. As such one is free to buy/sell/hold at their discretion. Just because you do not believe that it is a good buy right now does not neccessarily mean you're correct...after all you're merely expressing yho, (your humble opinion)....
As to your post of a TA link...(I didn't know you were a devotee of technical analysis as most of your comments seem fundamentally based)...there are numerous sites for TA research.
American Bulls list ENGY as wait:
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=ENGY%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&MarketTicker=...
FWIW my own view, technically speaking, is that volume has been too low of late to rely too heavily on any indications, either bullish or bearish. If you're interested here's another TA link:
http://www.smallcapcentre.com/snapshot_techanalysis.asp?component=compinfo.asp&row=2&page=sn...
Request to Update ENGY information box:
This forum is dedicated to a mature an open discussion of Enviro-Energy Corporation, publicly traded on the OTCBB, symbol ENGY.
As per ENGY's most recent 10QSB for the 1/4 ending September 30, 2003:
"Due to a lack of funds available from continuing operations in ENGY, the development of the bio-waste business has been suspended, until the cash required to operate this segment of the Company is available."
AND
"If the Company does not obtain additional financing, it would be unable to continue its development and marketing of the bio-waste sector."
The revenues for the company are primarily from Colvico Inc, a wholly owned subsiduary.
The most recent 10QSB for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2003 can be viewed here:
http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001052918%2D03%2D000295%2Etxt&FilePath....
Or for a snapshot of the financials one can look here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=engy.ob
jmhollen re-read your post...
In part it read:
"hide revenue in more pockets than Dan Rather has in his Abercronie-&-Fitch embedded-reporter psuedoMilitary costume - so that it won't get siphoned off into ENGY's general coffers"
Are you suggesting that a director of Enviro-Energy is taking money from Colvico, (a wholly owned subsiduary of ENGY) and is hiding it?
I'm not an expert on Sab/Ox but I don't think this type of activity is legal. Why were you so bullish on ENGY if this is the opinion you hold of one of its directors?