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BigD has been great with the updates, however, I must say I am still very disappointed in this stock. We all know its a great long term play but it was also a great short term play. Now I have my doubts about a short term play....its at least six months out which in my minf is long term....still very disappointed I will sell if we get to .035 and buy back in 5 months. Sad to say but this will not make it over .04 for a long time....not bashing just too much manipullation and flipping. I guess others see it this way because that is how the stock is reacting.
BigD just curious what is your opinion on the lackluster movement in this stock.
Jochef....but can't we build Nigeria sooner
Mets....the .021 gap has been filled about 10x already....let's face it too many flippers and manipulation.
Great news but little movement in pps, there is no surprises with each news release, therefore, no stock appreciation and that is the only reason why we are here. Still a great play but when?
With President Obsanjo leaving where does that leave us?
BigD....I know its out of our control but that is the problem....each news release comes after a downturn and we are back where we were from the beginning. We can have all the announcments and a great story and the stock will dip and when all said and done we are .03....so what
Just when we have all this great stuff we get politics in the way, such bad timing.
What is this IPO discussion I keep seeing? How can a public company do another IPO?
Is everyone just ignoring this news items regarding the Nigerian elections. Does not sound good to me....what kind of DD do you guys have for this and the impact.
I read the 8k regarding the pp and I must admit totally got lost and have no idea if it is good, I assume it is. Did it have anything in there regarding the target price for the pp group?
Big D I think the real fun will be the pp deal and the restrictions on Chassman shares, if that truly happens.
BigD...."today sucked" and "tomorrow will be better"....that is the problem, it probably won't. The mm's know and see all this talk and they will manipulate. The best we have going is a "surprise" rise that will come out of nowhere. Other than that each news releases will do nothing for this stock. I was afraid of this.
This is what I was afraid of news that was already anticipated and no movement in the stock.
rruff....you come across with such nice professional points and very articulate and than you post crap like this. I am amazed you started it by attacking me. I keep telling everyone that I am open with both sides. I am just telling you to look at the 10k and the future of this company based on the facts. We all need to trust the CEO/management of any investment we make and if we don't time to get out. The market is still open to sell your shares, so well them. IMO, and I can have one I do not believe Ball is trying to screw anyone. I am done posting on this board and raging bull....good luck everyone (I have never insulted anyone and I keep getting baraged with insults so I am done)
rruff....your quote....given the fact that the current business is closer to paying off than ever, again according to the communications issued by Ball. Yes, Gary's 8k did disclose this and did you read the latest 10k....2006 sales $38k and 1.67 factor of increased royalties....and you say closer to paying off....good luck waiting.
Rruff, what happens when any public company discloses possible future plans with the appropriate disclosures and it does not work out, what happens to the company? If this was the case we would not have a "Corporate America." All I can say is I would never own a public company. BTW, I have never seen a news release from AVTX except the latest one. The 8k and 10k's are carefully prepared with a SEC attorney so I would be surprised if there are any loose ends, I could be wrong but I would not bet on it.
Man peolpe are touchy about what they do for a living, you and Rob should get together.
Irony, so what! I suppose he has friends too. Hey, I am not the enemy do what you want. I don't care if you hire any attorney and go through a proxy fight or call the SEC. All I am saying is Gary is not doing this to screw the shareholders. He is doing what he feels is best for AVTX and the shareholders he knows more about Kollsman and the market than all of us combined.
rruff....the second paragraph is what is happening here (the word induce is not really what Ball was doing though)so I see no recourse for shareholders in this situation....If Gary Ball was sending out constant news releases (making outlandish accomplishments) and paying promoters to induce new shareholders than in that case I see possible recourse for the shareholders....but Gary has never shown any history of this all his announcements have been in an 8k and are usually boring anyway, always with disclosures. I see that some of the shareholders were enamored in the EVS technology and yes AVTX was the first to get certified by the FDA, very sexy stuff....big opportunities lie ahead right? Well, know one knows the aviation market better than Gary and he must see nothing on the horizon for the value of AVTX thus the position we are in. How long does it take to get Fedex certified? Three years and not even certified yet, what does that tell you....now we wait for EVSII certification? How long will that take, five years....I guess Gary saw the writing on the wall. BTW, you never did answer me are you an attorney?
Call him again he may of misplaced your email.
RRuff....just curious let's say you purchase a stock at 1.00 and years later the "market value" says the stock is worth .01 what than? If you want to sell at current market value, you will get .01. What is the difference here with the AVTX royalty contract.
rruff.... you are right about that the key is what kind of ownership will the shareholders get in the new venture.
Gary Ball is not taking the "royalties" for himself....if you or anyone on this message board wants to make an offer for it go for it. The AVTX board will look at your offer just as they would anyone else, including Gary. Hey, take a shot at it. I think GS mentioned he would and he should with the amount of investment he has.
BigD I prefer the big pop on a full week session and not the last day....one exception a late news release on Thursday, like very late.
I will say it to finally green and up $192 dollars.
Rob I was not going to solicit you but have a discussion on important aspects of your position, that's all. Don't lump me in with your dozen of calls you get all day. We have some commonality being involved with AVTX. In addition we could discuss AVTX....something in common. So get off your high-horse, I wasn't going to hustle you for a sale. Relkationships are built other ways and you are not open to any. I bet your vendors love you. They probably walk out the door with their middle finger pointed in your direction.
milio....you make a good point but you are really in the same boat now with AVTX....how can you sell 750k shares now with an average volume of less than 50k shares traded a day.
Between all of you on this board you may have 10M shares, where is the other 20m+ coming from. Not knocking you just curious.
Looked at Pandy's March news release and his estimate of $1-2 million per month in sales and the corresponding price is .08 and .18 respectively....interseting to see the target price for the pp investment being in the .18 range as the hit price. I assume XKEM said this will be our actual market value and that is the target price.
I can go to a few chinese massage parlors that is a good excuse to have a massage.
Cyto is one of the few that has at least shown some sense of business knowledge and not running frantic without at least looking....in her case researching....let Cyto do her thing and we will help where need be.
If you guys get annie involved with calling SEC and judges they for sure will run for cover....relax people
jolyn why do you make statements when you have no idea on the reverse split 1 for 2000 bad guess the 1 for 100 is a much better guess and possibly lower, IMO.
Does anyone know the OS count when we had the last run? My guess is around 900m, is that correct....not that it matters much with all the momentum but just curious.
BIGD are you saying NIII and GNLN are mm's buying for institutions? Note aware that institutions can but a sub $5 dollar stock. It must be an institution that has no rules, like a hedge fund?
BigD this targe you speak of is based on the pp investment; these are details you know based on the agreement? Maybe you should review them again
jolyn, you are so out of your league
Mr. Bobo you make some very valid points and I agree with all that you stated to Irony; hindsight regarding Kollsman will not do Gary Ball or us any good but I agree the Kollsman contract could of been constructed better, better yet another partner would of been even better. However, we are where we are. Regarding the information on the Frog company it is my understnding that Gary's hands are tied on what information he can disclose, by SEC rules. So all the ranting and name calling will do little good and I must say all the threates of the lawsuits will do little good. As I said before he has a very conservative SEC attorney and he has Gary pretty bottled up. So think about it if Gary has a very conservative SEC attorney do you think any threats to go to the SEC or litigation will scare them, to the contary go for it. It's your money and expense....best suggestion, let it play out but again it may not happen in the timeframe you want. So take action if you want.
meant to say "not" change your opinion you have a right to voice your opinion on the deal and I am staing mine, simple as that.