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Chris had 51% of the float before, now they've diluted the value of this "company" further in granting Matt a 51% B share?
Why is this shell company still using a mailbox forwarding service out of MI to hide its real location if its legit as some claim?
ANAS management: 90% value lost. When ANAS went live this had a perceived value of around .006 and turned over LOTS of volume. Now its 1/10 (vs the abysmal 1/30th when it was at .0002) and has low real volume.
Folks would be well advised to look at the volume as well since one can't really offload large volume to realize anything major here. Now if a trader likes to flip $100s then this may be for them, buyer beware.
Selective statistics are the name of the game it seems. The percentage from .0002 to .0007 gets noted however it ignores the volume at .0007 on this last uptick had less than a million shares turned over at that value which is meaningless, if you can't cash in then you never realize value.
The YTD (aka the last 3mo) performance is repeatedly noted. This stock was one step from completed bottomed out (until a reverse split) sitting at .0002. Thats management delivering a 97% LOSS from when they took over around .006, that shouldn't be a bragging point. Now its upticked on small volume to .0006ish. Still a LONG way to go from the .0136 52week high and .006range that management was valued at when it came out. Paints a very different picture when reviewed in its entirety vs a selective window.
ANAS has burned investors trust and is only throwing out the same garbage. This is trading on hype and hopes. If new buyers know that its their gamble, but there should be no need to try and bury the real situation going on.
ANAS management has -90% though and this board is about their performance.
Nothing has changed from that time, they are in worse position. They've violated the trust of investors and increased the share structure close to a billion shares. All long term trends point to the toilet IMO.
The PROOF of no trademark is right here: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4804:x89j5z.1.1
I have linked it before, that is the governing body of trademarks, show me where it is on there and I will apologize. Until its shown on there its just two false letters typed out and now that its clearly informed any further mention of it is spreading false information.
ANAS lied about the share buyback. Don't take my word, look at the FACTS. They diluted close to a billion shares.
Why is there a false "TM" there? I've already clearly pointed out its not registered and there has been zero proof presented otherwise. Do I need to link the trademark search again? There is no "5 hour high" trademark.
Easy to confirm the 90% loss too. No one said the .0002 to .0006 uptick YTD didn't happen, just stepping further back to review the whole picture, not just a selective window.
ANAS took over and the share price was near .006 and ramped to .0136, they lied and lied and lied and this sank down to .0002, currently a minor uptick to .0006. Just letting the whole picture be known.
If folks still want to buy in with that info so be it, they just deserve clear information.
The honest thing to do would have an open discussion to counter point claims with legitimate proof. That is what discussion boards are for. There have been some legit questions asked, such as the lack of trademark for 5HH, where is the response?
ANAS diluted almost a billions shares. I will go with public facts over lies from this company. The share structure does not lie.
Started with 2.36billion shares. They said they were working a share buyback, instead they dilluted to 3.1billion shares at this point. They did 100% opposite of what they were promising, they have no credibility anymore.
ANAS A 90%+ LOSS, DOCUMENTED. I have no idea how someone could claim otherwise, facts don't lie.
ANAS management took over at .006ish.
Things were ramped when someone started making posts with negative information disappear on the slightest of reason.
I wonder why that is?
There is no share buyback. Why is it still being referenced other than a talking point of one of their previous lies? The FACT is they did the complete opposite and diluted the share structure almost a billion. Any statements now about a share buyback are propagating false information. There isn't even an ongoing lie from management about it anymore.
Down 90% since ANAS management started (around .006 range at symbol change), down 95% from 52week high (.0135). Yes this is bleeding out. Hopefully new investors can see through the selective frame of reference being noted which really only reflects a tiny uptick from the last bottom.
I wonder why such successful investors feel the need to manipulate conversations new investors read?
Hopefully not on advice of other traders whom may have an earlier purchase and a distinct incentive to pump this and dump on others (along with the company). You'd like think that wasn't the good intentions of other traders out there (to knowingly pump and dump garbage) but then you just watch information is being manipulated and you wonder...
Be wary future investors, lots of empty sales pitches from both inside and outside the company around ANAS.
It would have been great if the initial PRs on ANAS were true but they were a bag full of lies and in its wake is 95% loss, dilution, basically no revenue, and nothing of substance.
Without question since ANAS management this has been a complete loss. All mentions of performance prior to 11mo ago were folks invested in a completely unrelated dead shell. The promises of ANAS fired this up however ANAS management has shown its true colors and this is declining a long slow death. Be wary of minor upticks as this bleeds out, there will be lots of bag holders in the end.
DOWN 95% from 52week high 11mo ago. 1yr ago this was not ANAS and is irrelevant to future performance. Thus if we're following the track record of ANAS management in 2015 you should expect a reverse split. ANAS management has tanked the share price, and lied about a buyback while instead diluting the stock instead. Plans don't change in the matter of a month or two to go from buyback to diluting almost a BILLION shares. ANAS lies...
Fact this stock is down 90% from it becoming ANAS. That says tons in addition to everything else dealing with the lies/dilution.
Volume versus price is very low as well, gains aren't gains until you are cashed out.
Lets preserve this part of your post for when the rest goes away:
"The only thing that Alternaturals has done is:
And these are facts
Made 2 products Focamine and Sombium
Focamine barely works
Sombium smells like crap when you open the bottle....every time!
Dumped billions of shares on shareholders backs
Lied about 5HH being on shelves in June 2014, Relaxapro, Priapin, Cellurite, share buyback, million dollars warehouse, Kush Cremes to manufacture 5hh
I could go on......but you get the point.
THESE ARE FACTS. "
Just someone that didn't care for the manipulation by management and also IMO manipulation by traders now trying to deceive future bag holders. My statements could easily be address if this was a legit company.
Buyback was a lie, instead dilution.
5HH has false PR after false PR and isn't even a trademarked name.
False promises is all this has delivered.
They failed to deliver the timeline associated with the 2015 projections, the projection is baseless at this stage.
Thus a PR about a share buyback from that era is also meaningless now...
Share buyback never happened and more recent PRs stated its not in the plans. In reality they did 100% the opposite and diluted close to 1BILLION shares. Any statement of a share buyback at this point is unsubstantiated information.
The millions projections are no longer a substantiated statement as the companies stated timeline of Nov. 2014 deal done, and Feb 2015 production failed to come to fruition. Any statement about millions in 2015 no long has any basis.
Yep. New investors would be wise look over the lack of answers being provided here and be careful to not become the bag holders of folks flipping off their .0002-.0005 buys along with all that the company is diluting. Close to a billion diluted in the last 11mo and the shares are authorized to go to $5B.
Show a concrete PR vs a speculative statement, show a trademark on the product to even give the appearance of taking the 5HH thing seriously, etc.
Need some actual value to entice buyers. This is a shell with little revenue, that has diluted close to a billion shares in the last 11mo and brought nothing to the table. They keep talking about 5HH yet they haven't even protected that name which is the only thing it possibly would have going for it in an established MJ market with lots of other choices.
What do folks see in this shell that new investors should be interested in? I see red flags all over and yet haven't seen any legit info to suppress those raised concerns.
No trademark, close to a billion more shares diluted over the last 11mo with no product to market, and basically no revenue.
IMO new investors should be very wary of taking advise on when THEY should bail out, never know if its coming from some on that likes to flip earlier and make BANK. Good luck to the new bag holders.
Congrats on managing to average down and recoup on this uptick. Bummer for the new bag holder. Too bad there isn't a legit company doing something here so all could be profitable. In the end the only ones making real money are the folks that held the original block of shares and also dilluted out close to another billion... Some flippers may profit on the way but this will just leave a bunch of bagholders in its wake which is sad.
As noted earlier someones said this could run again, yeah ANAS may run again on hype but then discuss that honestly that this is moving on hype alone which should be clear to all. So sad they lied 11mo ago when this had the potential to actually be something.
What does publicly traded matter? 5 hour energy is a private company and their coverage is universal.
As you noted there are all kinds of items already available, I hope folks are well aware of that thus 5HH IS NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL,if its even real. The lack of a trademark makes me seriously question the latter part of it as well. The hype here is over a hypothetical product with a name that isn't protected to introduce a product to a market that already has folks that are well situated by a company with no experience doing any MJ items. They are claiming they are contracting out that part so in the end the only thing here is a name. A name that is not locked down. That doesn't strike anyone else as odd?
So we have a company that has claimed for 11mo they are going to release 5HH, they've had the tiniest of revenue and they've clearly diluted out just under a billion shares (that's easily noted) and the previously restricted chunk of shares (also just under a billion) has been free for trading since Sept by a person no longer affiliated with the company...
False information is contained in that qoute. They do not have a trademark, feel free to look on the Trademark Electronic search.
"5 Hour" lists plenty of 5 hour energy trademarks, I don't seen anything to do with 5 hour high listed.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4801:6d76ly.1.1
A trademark is needed for a product, a patent is not relevant. If ANAS was serious about 5HH I can't think of a single reason they wouldn't have it trademarked.
Markets don't always match reality. Currently there is nothing of substance out there to verify the company ANAS is doing anything. Until there is folks and just wishing/projecting which is fine, but I am just trying to stick to the true facts.
Those projections are unsubstantiated. Per the earlier reply they were made in an Oct 2014 statement that in 30days the deal would be hashed out and 90days to full production. Since neither of those came around then any statement associated with them projecting millions are null and void. This is an nonfactual statement with no basis to support it.
There are plenty of elixirs on the market already there is nothing special about the 5HH concept. Good luck on your flips but don't kid yourself on this being somehow unique.
When this started there were $2.36B shares outstanding with $1.6B float and $.81B of those were restricted. Those are no longer restricted and the outstanding shares have already increased to $3.11B and they are authorized to dilute to a total of $5B shares. The float has increased quite a bit since the name change...
The big players have plenty of edibles readily available in the stores already, there is nothing special about 5HH other than a "name" which this company hasn't trademarked.
In summary you've had dilution and a large increase in float, no product launched by a company that has no experience in the MJ market that is already well established, and the one thing they are trying to hype based on (the name) isn't owned by them and anyone could take it if desired. Yeah I'd say some skepticism is definitely warranted.
Talk is cheap. Where is the trademark for this glorious product name this stock is hyped on? A cannabis elixir in and of itself is absolutely not unique and there are TONS on the market already. So this is trading on the namesake, thus where is the trademark for it? Its a simple/serious question. The lack of this is one of the biggest red flags to me (along with 3 CEOs coming/going and making empty promises).
Where is the trademark? Its a simple question that has yet to be answered. If the name 5HH is the golden egg of this stock then wouldn't they have it locked up?
So where is the official PR confirming the completed the requirements to meet those projections?
1mo after should have had a firm commitment PR around 11/24/14 did you see one? I didn't. Full capacity should have been 3mo later: around 2/24/14. So if they didn't follow through on those, which would have been confirmed in a concrete statement PR, then any "several million dollar" claims for annual revenue are unsubstantiated going forward.
Please show your legitimate source/proof.
TINY rebound, long way to go to clean the previous high of .013 which you are claiming, still a 95% LOSS here from that.
What real evidence or DD do you have to support any claim this will clear .013 again? Its been asked repeatedly, fill in the folks you're hyping this to.