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sea_urchin Share Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:22:01 PM
Re: None Post # of 35087
Am I right?
~kidd's long, insightful post from a few days ago has been zapped?
I bet some peeps saved it, though.
Read this one fast 'cause I'm sure it'll be gone in the morning.
So I think I'll save it and when it disappears I'll post it again.
added: and sea_urchin Share Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:22:01 PM
Re: None Post # of 35087
Am I right?
~kidd's long, insightful post from a few days ago has been zapped?
I bet some peeps saved it, though.
Read this one fast 'cause I'm sure it'll be gone in the morning.
So I think I'll save it and when it disappears I'll post it again.
added: and again and again and again and again and again and again and again ............................
goooooooooooooooooooooooo sexy cexi !!!!!!!!!
WP's motto: practice makes perfect?
go cexxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
Seems we had similar thoughts at the same time, crow!
This above all ... make sure the fall guy is in place early on. Make sure he's so vulnerable he can't possibly pose a threat to the bigger, overall game.
Wasn't the noted "Dr." Blair the one who "took the heat" a few years ago? The peeps who used him knew his real history and real straits, including his academic fabrications and drinking problem, and knew they'd have him over a barrel if push came to shove. Which it did.
Wasn't it Wade who made that particular introduction to Loch Harris? If I'm wrong about that, someone will certainly correct me.
oops whoops ...
there it went. Funny, that.
sea_urchin Share Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:22:01 PM
Re: None Post # of 35087
Am I right?
~kidd's long, insightful post from a few days ago has been zapped?
I bet some peeps saved it, though.
Read this one fast 'cause I'm sure it'll be gone in the morning.
So I think I'll save it and when it disappears I'll post it again.
gooooooooooooooooo cexi
go cexi
go cexi
goooooooo cexi!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone who needed ~$20,000 and fast?
(go cexi)
What difference what "it" is!
A man with as many contacts and entrees as Pouligny couldn't be touched by some guy who's merely charged with setting up "a network of sales channel leaders." In lay English I think that means trying to build a sales force.
I'd assume Pouligny worked for a fixed fee, not on commission, given his already established reputation. I'd also assume he was very clear to the posers (I meant powers, but poseurs fits, too!) that ran cdex that he did NOT have to actually sell product -- term used very loosely -- just give it exposure.
And for that service, I assume he set his own price, at least 6 figures US, probably payable in advance in cash, not in shares or options or promissory notes or anything ephemeral like that. Ya think?
No fool, that man. But he served cdex's purposes so everyone was happy, except of course those who agreed to try it and found it didn't do what it said on the tin. But they prolly weren't too upset since it cost them nothing except a little wasted time.
Ah, but now it's a brand new "product", the super new ID2. So it s h o u l d sell itself, shouldn't it?
Can't wait to read glowing PRs about how well the company is doing, thanks to massive ID2 sales.
Groundhog Day revisited.
(go cexi)
"At CDEX, McConnell will be responsible for building a network of sales channel leaders to identify, target and sell the ID2 product line nationally and internationally."
Does this mean M. Pouligny wasn't any good at doing that? I thought he was EXCELLENT at doing that. Prollem was, no one was buying.
A term of art I've never heard before: sales channel leaders. Someone define, please?
soooooo, crow ...
you're saying JB is in deeeeeeeeeeeeep personal trouble.
The same kind of trubble tommyboy found himself in? But as I remember, tommy was a trust fund baby (could be wrong, it's been a while) so he might not have had to declare those assets.
Who in the world keeps zapping you, crow? And to no avail?
Weird, since you always seem to get the zaps reconsidered and the posts reinstated when you want to (I think you said some time ago that that's what the circular arrows mean).
Maybe 'BP' stands for British Petroleum?
Just a wild guess. Doesn't make any sense though.
Or ... I guess it could be me. (Neveh thought of that, didja?!)
I just thought there was an obvious parallel (though on a MUCH larger scale) to loch/cdex. It takes a while for the bad guys to be brought in front of the bar, but justice -- in that case, at least -- was finally served. Maybe the same will happen here.
I doubt crow takes personally anything about what I mentioned, or offense! He's much too laid back for that. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll express his displeasure on here.
It's too complicated for me, crow ... I'm not keeping up and even if I tried it wouldn't make much sense.
I just thought pennypot was fer real ... he SAID he was fer real, just KEEPING it real so who'd've thought he was actually several (?) peeps. Another of my illusions about decency shattered.
I expect a full report from diddy and arloco when they get back from their visit to City Hall (or wherever)!
But be careful of diddy, arloco ... he's been known to use peeps, if you remember ... digging a fish pond and schlepping beer or sumpin like that. I wouldn't take his offer to buy lunch at face value, no way would I do that.
btw, for general interest, here's an article about fraud on a grand (international) scale. It took 6 years, but justice finally got served, though the penalties seem very light, given the enormity of the deceit. There's a confiscation hearing to follow and that might relieve him of a few things of value. Regardless, he'll no doubt spend the upcoming 5 years planning his next exploits. Or maybe he'll write his memoirs.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jun/20/former-langbar-chief-jailed-fraud
Unreal ... more than one pennstreet?????
And here he keeps saying he's just keepin' it real.
gosh ... I was zapped again!
Don't you get tired of trying to get rid of me, viking?
Interested in doing lunch sometime? I haven't been to Yanni's in a long long time.
"TB wanted to run another P&D"
He did??? Was this before or after he got in trubble over some money issues? Did he call on his old friend Nigel to help out with the new pumperdump?
Sooooooooooooooo many questions!
(goooooooooooo cexi!)
Well, all I know is that when I talked to a senior partner there, he was very circumspect, said simply that there were no plans for him to return.
You're right ... tons of records in a lot of different hands! Maybe you could make ~kidd and arloco offers they couldn't refuse (to persuade them to share a few of theirs)!
Like major parts in the film?
(go cexi)
Sounds more like a documentary than a novel (which by definition is fiction), crow ... elmo could no doubt help as a consultant since he kept some pretty good records.
The opening scene could be Malc being shown the door at W&S.
tboy made threats all over the place! Tonna bricks was his broadest one! When it came out that he was helping out one Mancunian "friendly broker" in Boca or Deyray (have forgotten which) then he withdrew fairly quickly!
Seems he and said broker had already tried to work their magic on a little company across the pond, so their MO was well known by some. Even without that "insight" there was a string of other US companies (term used loosely) they worked with, along with a few of Tommy's friends. Sportswear comes to mind.
And then said Mancunian friendly broker got convicted of drug running from Brazil or something similar and (apparently) unrelated to promoting known stock scams. Extradited ultimately back to his home country to finish out his sentence begun at Club Fed. No idea what he's up to now.
Tommy sort of strawbossed a well-oiled pumper-dump machine while it lasted. Even made the Capitol steps demo possible, as I remember (through his Pittsburgh friend Frank? I think so)!
Besides all that, there was poor old uneducated "Dr." Henry Blair with his drinking problem and failing memory (being generous here) who was a dream come true for the endless line of loch perps. But that's another story.
hj ... congratulations on obviously being a VERY fit and mentally alive 88!
But consider this as you indict those of us who are consistently negative on this company and the scam perpetrators (yes, it's been a scam):
We saw it early on and tried to warn people. Over and over and over. Would you have had it any other way, even though some readers paid no attention?
Would you rather we had kept quiet about what we knew, thanks in no small part to some expert researchers? Would you rather have continued reading tommy's continuous hype?
Would you rather I NOT have contacted 60 Minutes about it, to try to get the loch story publicized (the not-unexpected reverse split hadn't happened yet) and perhaps broadened to include other scam/boiler room outfits listed on Nasdaq that hurt legitimate companies because of their foul work? You may or may not know they had it on their short list of programs for that winter's shows, but literally just as they were making their final decisions, 9/11 happened and of course that trumped and dominated everything. The man who was going to do the investigative reporting on loch was Steve Kroft.
How about Dr. Zovko way back when or Ann Jacklin more recently ... should I never have contacted them to get their read on current events?
Were you happy to keep your head in the sand and follow the likes of the troo bloo board "leaders" who changed the villain as they found it suited their purposes to name someone else? Their "purposes" have consistently been to make money off this company one way or another, ethics and morality be damned.
I've long since gotten bored with not so sexy cexi and rarely post anymore (and usually get zapped when I do by one or more peeps who refuse to give up aiming at us (spit) bashers). But it's very sad to me that some people I got to know offline took a walloping at the hands of the noble ringleaders of this company and their minions. All orchestrated by ... guess who?
Investors or gamblers for that matter will believe what fits their hopes, and here the dominant hope was that they hadn't made a HUGE mistake by hanging on after the Weil article was published. He, as you probably know, has been credited with breaking the Enron story. He's very good at what he does.
So don't be surprised that crow and diddy and ~kidd and a few others keep at it.
I broke even when I sold, btw, after holding a little for really only a matter of weeks. When did I sell? A couple of weeks after the highly publicized RBI "demonstration" after it had begun to tumble. Lucky me to recognize the sp wasn't likely to recover -- a spike is a spike is a spike. I imagine you're thinking that I wish I'd sold at the top, like clozer who must have thought he'd died and gone to heaven. No, I really don't. Filthy money is always filthy money.
What's odd is I really did think they had something with elf. I wanted to believe they did, at least. Didn't we all!
VERY good advice. Same with weird e-mails. The very first virus I got was in an email from 4x4 -- remember him? That was back in about 2000, I think. He felt terrible about it.
I usually delete emails unopened and unread if I don't recognize the sender. I wondered if the peculiar one yesterday might have come from blkhoc! Stranger things ... if you believe in that sort of stuff, which I do!
What's odd, crow, is I got wind of that obituary in an email from a name/sender I'd never heard of.
Same with you?
what? no one else got an e-m about it?
Did anyone hear that Malcolm's mother died?
Makes sense to me, crow ... but evidently not to ihub.
(goooooooooooo cexi)
I don't understand why y'all are still talking about PEOPLE when that's clearly against ihub rules! Just the stock and the company are permitted topics ... not people, no matter how intimately involved. At least that's how I interpret their rules, based on personal experience.
go cexi
oh look ...
lotsa posts zapped over the weekend -- around 14 of them.
someone's been berry berry bizzy.
who could it be who doesn't like to read certain stuph?
(go cdex)
ps ... cuidado, milchip ... you'll be next.
Don't confuse penny with the facts, crow.
Interesting, milchip.
How far off is "a potential breakthrough" hj?
How long is a piece of string?
btw ... you mentioned PEOPLE which is an ihub no no. Be careful. You might get banned.
"I am told that we should post re the stock, and not about people."
But the stock IS the people! Or at least the company is. Plus a few fake "products" starting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back with amazing things like magical edible cotton seeds -- or even before that with superduper palace security devices or something -- and then it took off and grew like anything, OVERNIGHT!!! with elf and its cousin vaamp -- always with the help of the PEOPLE, peeps like vlado and tommyboy and his best pal nigel who morphed into the present group of cheerleaders which akshally seems to be made up of only one now, pennsylvania six five oh oh oh.
So what's the prollem with talking about the "people" who made this such a wunnerful share to hold? I mean, they're the ones responsible for getting the good word out, aren't they? They deserve all the credit due them, along with their hypester pals on here and that other site/board which shalL remain unnamed (wouldn't want to offend IHUB sensibilities).
Maybe we shouldn't talk about Ann Jacklin or M. Pouligny. They're people, too, so I guess we should juat ignore them, as well as that Jim fellow at Mott. But they had an interest in the company and/or its hot products. So should we just pretend they and what they said never existed? How about Dr. Zovko? Remember him?
Very confusing board, this. Hard to know quite what to make of it or what sense there is to its rules, I'd say (and just did).
Go cdex!
If stormy comes back to post, maybe they'll both "discuss" it with him.
Somehow doubt it though.
that's very funny!
"Despite your denial to IHUB ADMINs, it is well known that you are RIO."
"You have admitted that you have a large investment in CDEX..and are not in the least objective."
crow and diddy ...
Does that mean this thread's finally dead?
Like the company?
I think your earlier post may be closer to what MP has in mind. Sell the company to a shell -- I mean as a shell for another compnay to reverse into -- you know what I mean! -- and as largest shareholder take the money and turn the last light out. People with minimal holdings would again be left out.
"We tried, we really really tried."
So MP is still in the catbird seat. What a surprise. All he has to do is let time take its toll.
"We tried, we really really tried."
I wonder if anyone besides daKidd and Jmarcine got anything resembling a private settlement when that was still an option.
Hope so.
Who in the world would write a credit demand letter to this poor ailing public company? Ice water must run through their veins. The amount must be big enough to deliver the coup de grace -- doesn't have to be very big to do that, actually. Are the powers that be just waiting for the opportune moment to finally close their doors and "labs" and books?
Who's in charge at cdex these days anyways (tm nasfanium) ... not just by some public title but in fact?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ITEM 1. Legal Proceedings
Due to the lack of liquidity, the Company is in arrears on a number of its financial obligations. To date, most creditors have been willing to renegotiate the obligations as they become due or forestall any recourse they may have to collect their debts; however, we have received a demand letter from one of our creditors. Should any of these other creditors pursue recourse; the Company may not be able to continue as a going concern.
In addition, we may from time to time be involved in legal proceedings arising from the normal course of business. As of the date of this report, we have not received notice of any other legal proceedings and the Company is not aware of any pending claims or assessments, other than as described above, which may have a material adverse impact on the Company’s financial position or results of operations.
He stole his WOW!s from me, crow ... ask him!
I also thought his open letters to daBeez were great ... but I never thought he was paving the way for MP. Still don't know (or really care).
His links? Did you ever really read them? Tell the truth now, crow!
Regardless, I wish you well (and hope you ARE well), capn. I was sure at one point we might have had some mutual friends in Marathon, small world that it is, but not so.
Capnmike hung in there promoting for a long time, too. Apparently not anymore, though.
But that's history.
Now it's just a matter of how long it takes to sweep up the debris left behind by the leaders of this great li'l company with all the super US and international contacts and all those inventions and technology and patents. Weeks? Months? Another ten years? Quien sabe!
Too bad the SEC/FBI didn't do more when they were still interested in it. But on the other hand, soonly Boone was out and MP was in, and he as everyone knows was an SEC-savvy lawyer so he would have known how to fly low and stay just out of reach.