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And I Look forward to meeting you a some future share holders convention, Ill be the dude with the sign saying
DON'T HATE ME CAUSE IM RICH and a Big smile on my face, oh and don't forget the big fat Cuban (Cigar and women) LOL :~1
In the art of communication the receiver of the information has the responsibility to collect the transmitted information without superimposing thoughts, ideas, and or desires on to the information.
If you understood the information communicated during the call you would have heard Owen say that the move to the Daq is a future one and that they were trying to move on things as quickly as possible.
Now without superimposing my own desire for economic rescue into his message I understand that to mean although things are being finalized there are still documents to be filed and business to be concluded before the public records everyone seeks are available.
Kingent was that enough on the annuity question?
President's in town
Well from what I understand it is like a lone but your actually selling the stock to the insurances company, (I feel dirty just saying that Phrase lol)the money is then placed into an escarole account based on the insured value of the stock not the market value. Your fund is insured no matter what the market volume of the company but your monthly or weekly pay outs can be affected.
The money can then be paid out as a pension or quick withdrawals. theses are usually done through an Immediate annuity or you can use the money for deferred investment options. making tax free investments with the value of the stock as collateral but in both cases the account is insured against a company's crash on the market.
The only draw back can be the fees and end of year tax credit. Which is why its not recommended for the really rich. And also your restricted as to the amount you can draw of the account per year without penalties.
Prudential offers an Asset Allocation plan which incorporates stock options. But I understand that the Ptero has information about insurance company's that are willing to work with its investors.
Annuities are grate for setting up retirement plans and extra income for people 50 or older. I want to use it for extra income and diversification into other penny ventures using the Tax deference. Gas and Rare earths are points of interest and especially RD for Future Tech .
Good info But I think Im going to go the way of an annuity as was previously suggested. But Its a good strategy for those that are up against it. If Im not mistaken the loans are secured against the stock bottoming out. And the other side is that these loans can increase value in the company's stock. When a bank makes a lone against a company's stock it demonstrates confidence in a company's earning potential. Which in turn changes its rating in the investment community. These are some very smart and calculated moves. With all of this activity happening as we approach the Daq, I see grate things in PTRZ's forecast.
Still, Holding strong at $00.30
It doesn't pay to fight the negative energy. Some times people are themselves afraid and need reassuring in the night like a child holding a teddy bear. As I stated in my previous post all of the different points of view are necessary to have a balanced and objective discussion. Any point of contention should be refuted with fact and logic. As I also stated one of the indicators for a potential investor is the mind set of the present investors.
Yo chill, we all know that this is a board for PTRZ and any information pertaining to the company is welcomed.
But since this is a public domain certain information should be transmitted privately so as to ensure corporate security.
This is a very exciting and stressful venture, with varying points of view and perspectives, lets not lose respect for each other out of frustration, and agree to disagree.
My fingers are tired check y'all tomorrow.
As you can see the next few weeks are critical. The doubters are reluctant to sell, proving my theory. They give word to their brokers telling them to be hot for Ptrz while causing panic scooping up a 5% increase to company's market value.
And how do they know when to buy you might ask? Because they would know when the company is about to finalize business,I would answer.
And how would they know when a company is close you might ask? By what the share holders are talking / Blogging about I would answer.
Unlike some I have a life out side of petro and the internet. This is not to say I don't enjoy reading the many post positive and negative. I think the paranoid diligence is healthy and as the questions unfold it adds to the safety of our investments and the solidity of our company.
But as for those of you who feel it necessary to take legal action against this company Ill only say this. With the legal power of some of petro's individual investors it would be foolish for you to pass up an opportunity to sell out as apposed to a long and lengthy court battle. Acting out in anger and frustration will only cost you and other good people in the long run.
I only ask that you sell out to those who are in a position to buy from you. And at the end of this ride, if petro is a scam I offer to personally carry a petition to my brother a state official to prompt an investigation by the AG. and SEC.
Don't believe for a second that your comments don't affect the life of a company. One of the main indicators for potential investors,is whats on the mind of the average share holder.
"Quick Tempered Pepole Can Be lured To You By Anger And Embarrassment"
Sun Tzu
The Art Of War
Got to go get ready for the call catch the faithful tomorrow, and the nay sayers when ever. god bless and good night. Ahy other thing I can help with my E mail is posted in one of these messages, Only share holders please.
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No DD3 I think she was talking to all of the people out there trying to convince us we are all jim jones followers or something. but Im safe because I never liked cool aid. I never trusted the little fat guy with a handle for an ear. And who enters a room saying "OH yeaAAAAA!?" any way? LOL :~1
Well said TracyC The best thing to do is get with a broker and hold on as best you can. the holding price for this particular stock is $2.00 the Morning star and Market watch projections suggest that the stock can peek out any where between $5-7.00 they are suggesting a selling price of $3.50 -4.00.
If you can hold until the stock reaches that mark then it is strongly suggested that you do so because the company will be making a move to secure a place on the big boards soon.
Send it to Preditor007@verizon.net
Good thing I had the cape and spandex dry cleaned last week,
Up UP and AWAY!!!!!!! LOL :~1
DD3 you kill me. I can't wait until were sending these nay sayers E-Mails from our privet villas in the Bahamas.
Another My Tie Billy Rae??? LOL
SEnd me your E mail Privately
All of you need to step back and breath. This is the stock market, even if Owen had all of his ducks on a row and angles on his shoulder, There's no telling where this thing is going to go.
Im strong on PTRZ because of the moves it made this past month, Yes it fell but it bottomed out and stayed steady through a hard month of trading. This tells me that the dip in price was due to company maneuvers not value deprecation.
For those of you that have a hunch the stock will tank, and you can spare the money make a gift to your local charity this way if your wrong you can still write it off on your tax return and we don't have to be subjected to your negative energy. For those of you who want to hang in there be as patient as you can and hold out so the the stock can gain in value and you can receive a maximum profit.
Conference call tonight only for share holders 8pm
DD3 Check your E- Mail
You never know who's monitoring some info should be sent on a personal level there are elements that don't want to see this venture succeed
You know why all of this is BS. people are already making money selling and trading on this stock and even with all of you negative people shooting in the dark we are still holding strong between 25-30 cents on the dollar. So $25,000 0n a two hundred investment is no scam to me. All of your links are old tired news we all heard before.
Looking good DD3!!!! LOL :~1
LOL :~@
There are no restrictions any waiting period will be up to the shareholders, although it is advised to hold on if you can until when and if the company hits the DAQ.
You need to check the legal definition of insider trading All he did was give a shareholder information about his investment. He didn't urge us to bye or sell because of on going or impending company transactions. That's what I mean by all allegations and no facts.
DD the certificates must be traded through your broker if you don't have one the company will refer one that is willing to work with its investors. Any waiting will be at the discretion of the investor.
It is strongly suggested that the company is heading for the NASDAQ. It is also strongly advised that no action is taken with your certificates till then as too see the maximum return on your investment.
Remember positioning and portfolio, some times traders force the issue to gain information so that they may position themselves for the lowest possible bye in. Caution is the word of the day. Especially with things so close.
Looking at the monthly performance it would be easy to assume that PTRZ did not do well. However comparing it to other penny favorites and over all market volume the true value of PTRZ solid performance is clear.
If the charts are any indication PTRZ will rally in early spring and we should see a turn around for many sound penny startups Particularly in energy and Precious minerals (Real Gold not certificates, Silver, Diamonds and of course Black Gold, also alternative energy technologies).
Calm down Hoey no shouting DD Im looking into your request to confirm the speculations as for now you are correct about the 23rd. Things are close to completion an the natives are getting restless. PTRZ set a record pace in its opening and has held steady among the leading penny pics its trading every day and the business at hand is almost completed. Your stocks are good and your company is sound.
Another shot in the dark. Who is this Mark and where are his facts.
Remember the ghost of Morgan still haunting us in the FED todaaay, aAUAUAUAUAWOOOO! WHAT'S THAT!!? is THAT? YES ITS A CHINE RATTLING AAAAAAAH!
lol ;~L
Oil will serge, because of the season and the natural affect of the recent recession. The hot ticket of the day is GOLD mmmmm! boy would I love some of that. But wait I shouldn't get distracted to the point that I lose sight of the fact, that all that gold isn't being smelted to go around laquita's neck in the inner city.
So where can all that golden loveliness be heading and what industries will be affected by it mmmmmmmm!? Could it be Aerospace and Technologies? And with green talk entering the conversation regarding technology wouldn't the black gold pimps of the world be sitting back think to them selves and saying;
" Mmmm, its hard out here for a pimp, with all of this new technology and new and innovative power sources, Its only a matter of time before they become marketable and tip the scale forever. What can I do, I can stem the the tide of progress but for so long, Man, Its hard out hear for a pimp."
Just what do you think he's going to do I think he's going to raise the price gradually and his reasons are going to be increased demand brought on by seasonal climate change and caution against a recession by all annalist accounts, we seem to be recovering from.
Good pushers know his life's blood isn't the **** its the junkie and as the junkies habit goes so does the the pimps product. And if he's going to be caught short with a surplus of product he'll surge the price before the new technology takes affect, but reduce it later making it seem as a concession to changing times and technologies. You will see oil hit an all time high with in the coming years, as these technologies are now being developed and implemented, and the oil pimps hustle to make what they can in an industry falling victim to mans intellect.
Oil will serge, because of the season and the natural affect of the recent recession. The hot ticket of the day is GOLD mmmmm! boy would I love some of that. But wait I shouldn't get distracted to the point that I lose sight of the fact, that all that gold isn't being smelted to go around laquita's neck in the inner city.
So where can all that golden loveliness be heading and what industries will be affected by it mmmmmmmm!? Could it be Aerospace and Technologies? And with green talk entering the conversation regarding technology wouldn't the black gold pimps of the world be sitting back think to them selves and saying;
" Mmmm, its hard out here for a pimp, with all of this new technology and new and innovative power sources, Its only a matter of time before they become marketable and tip the scale forever. What can I do, I can stem the the tide of progress but for so long, Man, Its hard out hear for a pimp."
Just what do you think he's going to do I think he's going to raise the price gradually and his reasons are going to be increased demand brought on by seasonal climate change and caution against a recession, which by all annalist accounts, we seem to be recovering from.
Good pushers know his life's blood isn't the **** its the junkie and as the junkies habit goes so does the the pimps product. And if he's going to be caught short with a surplus of product he'll surge the price before the new technology takes affect, but reduce it later making it seem as a concession to changing times and technologies. You will see oil hit an all time high with in the coming years, as these technologies are now being developed and implemented, and the oil pimps hustle to make what they can in an industry falling victim to mans intellect.
Of course they are its all apart of the research process. as I said I like to know as much as I can about a company but if all of the stars don't line up so to speck. Im not afraid to go with my gut and play the hunch if other indicators are strong enough to support my feelings. Look no one can dispute your caution especially with the disappointing actions a some CEO's and elected officials of late, but at the same time you don't want your caution to resemble miss placed paranoia. Im confident the company is rapping up business and all of the facts and figures will be made available to the shareholders and the public at large.
seriously, I Listen to who's talking and what they are talking about. Then I research as much as I can to see if a company's portfolio and track record is strong but most importantly I look at their future goals and projections if its cutting edge and technologically based It really gets my attention, or if a future merger or company alignment might give a rise to market value. But most of all if a CEO demonstrates adaptability and innovation in their thinking I view that with high marks. If all or a few combination's of these criteria are met then I seriously consider investing. I use the basic principles of investment, statistical analysis, data streaming and research. I don't just go on blind faith. And I strongly believe in the Principles of Master TZU as it applies to business.A practice started in the Asian business community is now being observed by CEO's and corporate leaders all over the world. I suggest you obtain a copy and try it out in terms of your own portfolio and business goals, I think you would come to respect the wisdom in it.
in that case Ill be here to bug you a little longer :~)
That is what I was saying the only $2.00 guarantee was from the insurance companies not the market itself any thing at this point is speculation.
As for my standards I have only one and that is (color.)
GREEN and White......LOL
Its the way of the market bye low sell high Penny stocks are important for free trade for this very reason. It leaves room for potential competition against the big company's who would otherwise have a monopoly in the market due to high priced bye inns alone.The whole philosophy of the penny trade is based on this principle and there are several penny stocks out there that can net a large turn around if the rules of trade are are adeptly applied, Penny stocks have always been a poor mans game because the investments are small and the gains are high. Not as high as the major sheets but high in comparison to your initial investment.
Looks like we lost 2 cents today but still holding between 20-30 cents.
Calm down DD3 Stop shouting I know its hard sometimes. (:~<> LOL
I think the miss conception is in the fact that the certificates we hold are insured for $2.00 a share and if a person wishes to cash out with an annuity we would be able too. But there are other ways of using the equity of your shares other than totally chasing out and creating an atmosphere of panic and instability for the company. At this faze of the company's gestation it needs the confidence of its investors in order to gain the momentum need to help further its position and goals in the world market. And I don't mean to hold on with blind faith, this is business. But don't fall for the scare tactics either. Study the trends as they pertain to the industry of your company and the market as a whole; ask questions of people who know and you trust and then make the best logical educated decision you can. This is the market the rules of war still apply.
"Those Who Know These Thing Can Be Certain Of Victory By The Force Of Their Momentum"
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (;~<>
That indictment is old news there was a suspension but the stock is on the boards now and Ill point out with all of the indictments its been steady in the worst possible market atmosphere. As I stated before its Present price I feel is a reflection of the September slump. so far the only thing the indictment has done is to serve as a platform for PTRZ to lead the way in the fight to have those archaic laws changed (But you didn't tell that part of the story.) so that free trade can truly come back to the market place.
Your right its important to tell the whole story but its also important to keep it in perspective. The company has made some huge strides this year alone, but because the paper work hasn't caught up with our desire for economic salvation an atmosphere of panic is easily created.The first step is getting the properly registered certificates then the business at hand has to be Completed fully,to determine the companies true value then we will see the information we desire in full.
At present the projections are factored by many web sights like this one you can get a profile on any stock or company just by typing in their trading symbol. I use Morning star , Market watch and NASDAQ. Some of them are free some you have to pay for.
When you research the symbol click on the charts and you should see numbers in the right hand corner of the chart those numbers represent days , months, years, They will give you projected rises and falls in values based on present listing price and projected against the time frame requested.but you must keep in mind the company hasn't even hit the one year mark on the sheets yet, so not all sights will have it listed until you make the request.
Thanks DD3 It just kills me that you have to think this way given the work you do. well good luck to you and all of the Petro investors I do believe we have something in this company or I wouldn't defend it so. People don't understand that the market is risky and no matter how much research you do or how many facts you have you still have to have faith that you made the right decision because any thing could happen. Where there is risk their has to be some sort of faith. if their was no risk it wouldn't be the stock market.
The 5-7 swing is a five year projection based on present market performance. Keeping in mind the market is both science and chance. Analyst projections suggest that if the stock recovers it will swing between $2.00 and $7.00 over the next five years. $2.00 and below is the suggested holding price, $3.50 and above is the suggested selling price. I strongly believe the current price is affected by overall market volume as well but Im confident because even in this climate PTRZ is holding and fluctuating in the positive. This is a good sign. And all this while the business at hand still has to concluded and factored in. But this is not to say that you will have to wait five years you sell when you feel the need to but just try and hold on until you can reap the maximum return on your investment.
I hope its before you turn to dust for all our sakes. LOL :~1