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Theirs No 2011 or 2012 to it. It this stock does not fulfill its developments and delivery; As well as spin off by the First of Dec with No stall action acceptable to Any common sense investor We will know theirs no question about it -- Its a dead scam and let the drama began. PS: No comment on this post will be answered, So don't bother replying. - Its for the new young investors that the company would love to make new suckers and bag holders .
Hold on to your money and wait , and Watch. If for any reason (any reason) this does not spin off and also report revenue and sales By the First of DEC. It is An Out And Out SCAM
Basically you got the Same answer I have been getting all along. I have been calling around for wk's and this thing is looking worse and worse. So were still on a wait and see. But we'll all know soon; if their is not a positive change for the better by Dec 1st.
And that's a BIGgggggg IF. Right now the Negatives outweigh the positives by far. Assuming this is not a total scam. Right now Things do not look good. and are looking worse with each day of non Viable, Confirmable , Solid - Factual pr updates and results.
But who knows? Well--- we'll all know by the End of waiting game up first of December. If no solid results are out by then on the spin off and sales I'll loudly join the chorus in proclaiming this is a forest and a scam.
Yes: A company may file a lawsuit in certain cases where they may seek to prove preplanned intent and the capability to execute such infringement. (Other factors may be involved) Such cases are usually hard to prove however. That is why a follow up clause is usually negotiated to prevent further suits after beating back such actions.
Actually: To win in court in this instance; only reflects a non infringement on a patient. Many patients/products never get to production. The fact that they successfully defended them selfs in litigation does not necessary imply they have a viable product. Only that they did not infringe on someone else patient property. And again that is not to say this is not a scam. Even if it may be a legal borderline execution. It may still be a well orchestrated scam.
Not on this planet. That is the thing with penny stocks. After an investor looses their money when the stock drops to .01 their is a lot of disappointment. Then after time passes and it drops to .0001 to nothing basically . People go um until it suddenly climbs back to .01 then the pumpers start yelling see - see I told you it would win. As if coming back to a lost lost pt is a gain . IT'S NOT .01 is not a yippee-i-yo it's just back to garbage. Most long term investors are not fooled that easily. Tho I must admit the newbies who got in at .0001 2 or may 3 or 4 may make some money which is good for them I'm sure. But MOST OF US WILL LOSE BIG TIME>
Of course all this it'll know Assuming this is not a scam. of which we'll know for certain by the first of Dec. and have another strong indication if they come out with weak news that tells us nothing in their next press release whenever that may be. If it does not give clear spin off rules and profit from sells delivered etc. the PPS will do nothing but blip then sit.
And right now IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
Yea I did not believe that one eather.
I've had a test sale for months at .0002 - Their are no buys, and have never been for some time it seems. It therefor seems like, They buy and sell among themselves . Unless of course one is willing to give their shares away for nothing as in .0001
This is a joke
Also: hydro9 has a lot of logic in what he is saying, It matches up somewhat with what I've found to be one possible truth.
Actually: They can just start a new company. Bankrupt this company; and were all out. Their are many ways they can easily do it. this is just one of many. There are a lot of issues to be considered but is is not as hard as you may think for an experienced maneuver .
Bloom is a sofc , Arsc is a Pem cell .
Bloom is a private reputable company they do not need Arsc and would not involve themselves with arsc in Any MANNER.
2nd; Blooms fuel cells are far more expensive and yet; far more efficient than the proposed Arsc cells if you check the efficiency stat rate of their past pr. (Conexa and greens)
Yes bloom is working to bring their cost down , And I'm sure they will. As I know a few of their staff.
However; in a comparison with their cell and marketing practices Arsc is inferior in most every category. So tho I was hoping to see ARSC as a viable competitor in the fuel cell industry , I always wished Bloom was a Public trading company. But oh well!!
I had hoped to make the best with what arsc was. I'm almost sure tho at this pt its not going to happen . This crap looks real bad at this time,
ARSC: Now your catching up to speed: As I said 5 mts ago ConeXa has its own questionable actions and reactions. This does not look good for the investors , And it is almost a done deal. Also; The reason I always stated (If this is not a Scam) The spin-off may not even happen if ever. They covered their buts well. This smells every bit like a well orchestrated money scam done by seasoned experts who know how to cover their tracks. Bottom line: It has not looked good for some time now.
But again; I'm not passing judgement until Dec 1st. Then we'll all know for sure.
Sorry-- I don't wish to elaborate at this time. Not just yet.
And to You new investors; who say to yourself Yea! They can say that, but I want in. THINK : Wait untill after all this gets sorted out, because even if you buy 1,000,000,000 shares right now at this very instant ; Your shares are not going to be included in the spin-off . Be real - No matter what anyone tells you ;Their NOT. After the spin off Their May be a window of opportunity to buy in at a lesser rate as Stocks Normally DROP BEFORE THEY CLIMB. If their going to climb at all. And assuming this is not a total scam that is.
We must all take a deep breath and stop calling each other Bashers and pumpers for telling the truth. The truth hurts sometimes.
I pleaded for people to: Stop buying at these 000-ones and 000-twos three or four months ago. People; We have just got to bite the bullet and Stop buying altogether.
In fact Stop Selling also. for now Just sit and then wait for Dec 1st then we'll Know for certain -no questions asked.
Raging; You do not have to prove to anyone your personal holdings. That's private and your business. Rather someone believes you or not will be their thoughts. But to infringe on your private account is not an option.
Bottom line: if this does not have strong positive sells news with clear spin-off results by the first of Dec with NO STALL action for ANY REASON . Then I'll know for a fact It is a SCAM. Any reference to this will take years more is not what I see. if this does not have strong positive sells news with clear spin-off results by the first of Dec with NO STALL action for ANY REASON . Till then we'll wait and see, after Dec 1st we'll all know it is a scam If their trick action is still in play.
Its all relevant . The mm will not execute a sell at .0002 they will sell yours at .0001 and they will execute your buys at .0002 their preferred profit rate, or 0001 at times . But we can not sell ours at .0002 nor higher. that's how the ripoff game is played.
Yes the Q3 is great where it shows revenue , However;
At this pt the Q3 means little than nothing if they have not settled the spin-off and reported provable revenue from sales by Dec 1st, Everything else is just stall action to enhance a scam profit. Don't be fooled by useless pr.
If I told people once; I'll tell them again. SIRI is a solid and credible company. It will have it's ups and downs but in the long run it's the best and have excellent mgn team players.
If this does not have viable -credible - and inclusive (The spin-off results - Delivered Product sales - Revenue etc...)news by the end of November.The jig will be up. But as no one knows; Since the companies not sharing/talking. It could do the shareholders right, But the Chances are not looking good. So I'm Not saying it is a scam for certain yet . Not till December 1st. then I'll know for certain.
Or!!! What that could means is. Trickster move.-- We'll say we'll pretend to hook you up with an associate that may have nothing to do with our fuel cell that may not exist. That way we'll provide some cover for our fake plays if we're scamming, a little bit longer.
Not relavant sence research scientist Gerardine Botte cut her association with ARSC and ran as far as she could get away from them a long time ago.
Someone took an old irrelavant post, put a updated year on it and passed it off as a pump scammer.
Hummmmmm?????
Actually Im hoping for Arsc to do well Very well.
Go ARSC Come out with some strong positive news and lets start to grow. Go Arsc
Normally I would not respond. But I got a private email from another site asking> what are they talking about (Sorry I'm not selling)? Don't be fooled I'm not referring to people like them and myself that ars already stuck with this worthless junk, And until it gets to at least .0002 I can not get out. It does not matter What they do with their shares that's their business and not my concern . I'm only concerned with You young and new potential bag holders their trying to sucker in.
They can say whatever they wish. Stay focus, and alert and watch the truth with this sham as it develops.
This message is to new and young Investors only:
Protect your money. If this so called company does not come out with honest and strong pr this month. That is real and solid than take your money and RUN. Every day it looks more and more like a SCAM. Don't let the pumpers trick you . Do some DD and reason. I understand your new at this, and are hoping for a win win situation but with each passing wk. I'm afraid this is a BS stock
INVEST WISELY. However;
This May Turn Around. But It looks bad, Very bad right now. good Luck and best wishes . Think it out, Then think again before you make a commitment to this Stock.
Here is exactly what is going to happen ; mark my words;
If this is not a scam (and that's a big if) the spin-off will be around 1,000 to 10,000 to one . Then their will be a massave reverse split with the regular shares (somewhere around 10,000 to One) and the resulting price will drop fast if their is not a Provable and Verifiable product on the market (Of which at this time their is NOT.) Of course; all this depends IF THIS IS NOT A TOTAL SCAM. WATCH..........
With 20,000,000,000 share structure , Anyone telling you otherwise is Not being straight up with you, [or] Very Very uninformed at to how penny stocks work.
This Crap; Does not look good, And the facts do not add up ; But we'll know for certain by the first of Dec. If their is ANY stall action for ANY REASON.
OF COURES; I HOPE I'M TOTALLY MISTAKEN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR STOCK. IN THIS CASE I WOULD LOVE TO BE TOTALLY WRONG. But the facts at this time strongly points to I'm not [sadly to say].
Wrong again: Im not bashing arsc, Just stating the truth. and second Im not sending investors anywhere ; Just showing how real inventions link and promote.
This message is to new and young Investors only:
Protect your money. If this so called company does not come out with honest and strong pr this month. That is real and solid than take your money and RUN. Every day it looks more and more like a SCAM. Don't let the pumpers trick you . Do some DD and reason. I understand your new at this, and are hoping for a win win situation but with each passing wk. I'm afraid this is a BS stock
INVEST WISELY. However;
This May Turn Around. But It looks bad, Very bad right now. good Luck and best wishes . Think it out, Then think again before you make a commitment to this Stock.
Here is exactly what is going to happen ; mark my words;
If this is not a scam (and that's a big if) the spin-off will be around 1,000 to 10,000 to one . Then their will be a massave reverse split with the regular shares (somewhere around 10,000 to One) and the resulting price will drop fast if their is not a Provable and Verifiable product on the market (Of which at this time their is NOT.) Of course; all this depends IF THIS IS NOT A TOTAL SCAM. WATCH..........
With 20,000,000,000 share structure , Anyone telling you otherwise is Not being straight up with you, [or] Very Very uninformed at to how penny stocks work.
This Crap; Does not look good, And the facts do not add up ; But we'll know for certain by the first of Dec. If their is ANY stall action for ANY REASON.
OF COURES; I HOPE I'M TOTALLY MISTAKEN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR STOCK. IN THIS CASE I WOULD LOVE TO BE TOTALLY WRONG. But the facts at this time strongly points to I'm not [sadly to say].
Here is exactly what is going to happen ; mark my words;
If this is not a scam (and that's a big if) the spin-off will be around 1,000 to 10,000 to one . Then their will be a massave reverse split with the regular shares (somewhere around 10,000 to One) and the resulting price will drop fast if their is not a Provable and Verifiable product on the market (Of which at this time their is NOT.) Of course; all this depends IF THIS IS NOT A TOTAL SCAM. WATCH..........
With 20,000,000,000 share structure , Anyone telling you otherwise is Not being straight up with you, [or] Very Very uninformed at to how penny stocks work.
This Crap; Does not look good, And the facts do not add up ; But we'll know for certain by the first of Dec. If their is ANY stall action for ANY REASON.
OF COURES; I HOPE I'M TOTALLY MISTAKEN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR STOCK. IN THIS CASE I WOULD LOVE TO BE TOTALLY WRONG. But the facts at this time strongly points to I'm not [sadly to say].
not looking good
my mistake
But since no one knows; Since the companies not sharing/talking. So It could do the shareholders right, but the Chances are not looking good. So I'm not saying it is a scam for certain yet . Not till December 1st. then I'll know for certain.
Also: A Spin off of (1,000 to 10,000) to One is Not success. Of course the company wins; but - The shareholders get screwed. Unfortunately That's exactly what I suspect will happen. We will all get screwed big-time.
ARSC: I went to the farm one day to visit my grandparents, and just
as I passed the barn I smelled a strong odor So I said to my self Wow whats that
smell? As I got closer to the barn, I stepped into something slippery and
said- Whats This? Then as I looked closer, I saw It was a turd
of DUNG. After I got to the house I decided to check my ARSC stock to
see what it closed at, and I saw the message on Ihub that said check back in 3
mt's for a back up unit, and said to myself; Wow whats that smell? As I read
further It began to feel like something slippery as it read; check back in 6 mt's for a primary home unit. So I began to wonder; Whats This;
have I stepped into; and as I looked closer what do you think I found -- Your
right-- IS IT A TURD OF DUNG STOCK??? I DON'T
KNOW - If it smells like dung , and it's slippery like dung. Could it actually be dung???? What do you think it is? --What I know is-- IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
If this does not Spin off and Succeed THIS year (In the next 2mts)I will know beyond any doubt This is a Scam. For many - many reasons of which I'll reserve my comments at this time. A lot of people say in another yr or so; but that is bogus, If for Any reason it does not settle out this year it is a <SCAM>
ARSC: I went to the farm one day to visit my grandparents, and just
as I passed the barn I smelled a strong odor So I said to my self Wow whats that
smell? As I got closer to the barn, I stepped into something slippery and
said- Whats This? Then as I looked closer, I saw It was a turd
of DUNG. After I got to the house I decided to check my ARSC stock to
see what it closed at, and I saw the message on Ihub that said check back in 3
mt's for a back up unit, and said to myself; Wow whats that smell? As I read
further It began to feel like something slippery as it read; check back in 6 mt's for a primary home unit. So I began to wonder; Whats This;
have I stepped into; and as I looked closer what do you think I found -- Your
right-- IS IT A TURD OF DUNG STOCK??? I DON'T
KNOW - If it smells like dung , and it's slippery like dung. Could it actually be dung???? What do you think it is? --What I know is-- IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
I had no intentions of interjecting a comment. But when i see statements misleading young and new investors ; Its very hard not to.
First I know a lot of young investors are told something to the likes of quote; hold on people are buying this will rise again.
--BS--
Just so you'll know, When the professional players and MM's in some isolated cases; want to get off their hand sums they have bet on a come (Which is the opposite of close to shorting in the opposite direction)Tho not exactually but for quick explanation sake. They will pump up a stock with ghost bids. To the rookie it looks like the stock is fluctuating and trying to hold and mabe go back up and/or recover, but that is the bluff. to get new bagholders to buy to raise the precieved value temporary.
In truth This stock is DEAD and will at some pt give up the fight and suddenly drop to the 0's Don't be fooled , This will NOT recover. and it is a lost cause . Do not tie up your money as in new money just to hand it over to the professional players CUT YOUR LOSSES AND RUN - The game is set up for you to lose most every time. With a very few lucky exceptions. IT IS A FAKE OUT; IT WILL SUCK YOU In BEFORE A SUDDEN DUMP. NewBIES>> let the old hardheads have it, Hold on to your money.
Heads up everyone: The President just signed the new 30,000000000 (30-Billion)Dollar Small Business Loan Yesterday. Renewable and energy businesses should find this very instrumental in the coming and future job developments.
I had no intentions of interjecting a comment. But when i see statements misleading young and new investors ; Its very hard not to.
First I know a lot of young investors are told something to the likes of quote; hold on people are buying this will rise again.
--BS--
Just so you'll know, When the professional players and MM's in some isolated cases; want to get off their hand sums they have bet on a come (Which is the opposite of close to shorting in the opposite direction)Tho not exactually but for quick explanation sake. They will pump up a stock with ghost bids. To the rookie it looks like the stock is fluctuating and trying to hold and mabe go back up and/or recover, but that is the bluff. to get new bagholders to buy to raise the precieved value temporary.
In truth This stock is DEAD and will at some pt give up the fight and suddenly drop to the 0's Don't be fooled , This will NOT recover. and it is a lost cause . Do not tie up your money as in new money just to hand it over to the professional players CUT YOUR LOSSES AND RUN - The game is set up for you to lose most every time. With a very few lucky exceptions.
DMGM: ---I'm sorry to hear so many people lost their money on this dream. That is why I tried to warn as many as I could. that This was a scam-mers game. Just legit enough to not get punished. IMO- He has always been a Con Artist and in my opinion will always be one.
Hope some of you can cut your losses in time; without a total loss. And of course: Their will always be the hard heads That will hope on a dead dream . So to them; I just say (A fool and his money are soon departed. Good luck with that dream.
Yes their is : Tho now is not the end game time yet,
What is your email address.
As I do not anticipate posting on public sites again.
Just for future reference: So people will know. The market makers make their money 4 and 5 times over so as they work out their deals with the companies and buy bulk discounted shares to sell they have already made their investment back long before, and are not bag holders even if the stock is a scam and crashes; all they have is throwaway shares that they discard and have lost nothing,
You and I: would be the bagholders that loose in the end if anyone is to lose.
I highly doubt any 21m backlog exist. But that is only one of the many-many reasons I'm trying to get out at .0002 as fast as I can. However; as with most [Roach/flea - Do drop in] Motels . You can check in, but you can't check out. Without loosing it all that is. However - For the sake of all the innocent investors I HOPE I AM TOTALLY WRONG ON THAT PT but; Unfortunately i highly doubt it.
ARSC: I went to the farm one day to visit my grandparents, and just
as I passed the barn I smelled a strong odor So I said to my self Wow whats that
smell? As I got closer to the barn, I stepped into something slippery and
said- Whats This? Then as I looked closer, I saw It was a turd
of DUNG. After I got to the house I decided to check my ARSC stock to
see what it closed at, and I saw the message on Ihub that said check back in 3
mt's for a back up unit, and said to myself; Wow whats that smell? As I read
further It began to feel like something slippery as it read; check back in 6 mt's for a primary home unit. So I began to wonder; Whats This;
have I stepped into; and as I looked closer what do you think I found -- Your
right-- IS IT A TURD OF DUNG STOCK??? I DON'T
KNOW - If it smells like dung , and it's slippery like dung. Could it actually be dung???? What do you think it is? --What I know is-- IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.