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RE "Ihub is a message board. Not an investment advice website. "
let me further ask you a quick question based off one of your posts.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42141778
"Posted by: Phil(Hot Rod Chevy) Date: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:43:15 PM
In reply to: Traderfan who wrote msg# 177644 Post # of 179101
There seem to be some here that believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too.
EESO is done. The goose is cooked and ready for dinner.
Phil"
so if I were a share holder or maybe even a potential share holder reading your message I should take that as what? to sell my stock? to not buy? and is that
A not investment advice
or
B. investment advice
(hint the answer is B)
Wouldn't it be nice for me, to see where or why you were making such investment advice what your track record is in terms of stocks, ect...
wouldn't it be nice if the people who bought EESO prior to the run up, and sold while it was up at .02 or above if you knew they were out? or further you knew that this wasn't just like their first time ever trading a penny stock here...
so would it not help you if ihub tracked people's trades, it showed why and how they were looking at stocks?
if they gave a rank for the skill level of the trader?
wouldn't that help everyone? and only make it better regardless of the point you continue to catch yourself on due to the fact you don't think individuals should invest on coattails of others. because when it comes down to it, no matter what you do, you didn't create the stock, you are some how in some way riding the coattails of someone... it doesn't matter if that person\ or company that led you to the company you are going to invest in was GS or ihubposter123... what is important is to understand where that information is coming from, what they saw in that company, and what their track record is...
All I'm saying is that it'd be cool to be able to add these features in so one could track this, and make notes for themselves and for others to view... and so that we could have a better idea and more info of who we are talking to, and what their track record was
thanks, but wouldn't it be cool if as a new trader I could go on, and read notes, and charts and ask traders like yourself who understand how to chart questions?
to follow what they are looking at, and gain ideas and find new companies through them...
but as even a seasoned trader you have to be looking for ideas, looking to sharpen your skills, ect... sometimes it takes fresh eyes to see things you miss of which individuals who watch you can provide...
there are thousands of people that do it today... it's called a management fee... that's their inspiration...
re: "I just don't think any serious trader in the heat of the trading day would have the time or motivation to do all that you would like him or her to do on your behalf. You may just have to learn how to do it on your own behalf yourself."
edit: (further how do these traders at all have the time to do what they do by posting on ihub? if done correctly this could be a tool that helps them as much as others as it could allow them places to put notes, draw charts, talk with others who understand and they know are good traders...)
and note this is just an idea, a suggestion... who knows if this model could or would catch on... but it's a way in which ihub imo could take this site to the next level...
I think it would be interesting to see how it works try the free model see how it goes, then decide if or not to move further
Ihub is a message board.
Not an investment advice website.
so no one ever gives advise on stocks\ investments here and we talk about how are days were?
ummm yup they are serious hahahhaha
http://dartz.eu/en/dartz_site_bankz/vip-armored-car/tree243_unnamed_alias
are you serious??? whale penis leather seats?
http://www.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news/the-4wd-with-seats-made-of-whale-penis-20091016-gzsq.html
and I'm sure this kind of idea would lead to individuals to continue to go onto those things,
but it would be a great way for individuals to get their name out there, to discover these great traders, to let them teach people rather than who knows who...
right now I have no idea who is a good trader coming into ihub... I'm a relatively new user and I can't spend time reading through everyone's posts...
this would give me a quick way to check through people see what they are, where they are coming from so I can get a better idea of if I should listen to them or follow them or stay away from them...
but all of those things could be mediated...
funds under management would be linked directly to their trades... so if they make a trade you make the trade in real money...
one could also have a notes page for every stock, where they could explain reason behind the trade, the stop levels, the target, what motivated the trade, what they are looking at on the chart (even allow them to draw a chart) and what to do when, what risk level they are taking by making the trades the are,
now as for what every investor should do, we have thousands upon thousand of fund mangers, are you telling me that people should never place their money with a manger and always take a proactive roll, what if they can't?
further as for what is suited for what trader, ihub could do a feature further that would allow you to pick the type of investor, the type of style, and the type of risk they normally take, it'd clearly all be an algorithm... but not out of the realm of possibility. It could also show how closely they follow their said strategy.
I'm just throwing ideas out there...
if grandma only knew...
but if you did find a way to make the real money management fee model work one could make money by becoming a guru...
ok cool, I'm just trying to spice things up here... I think it could really change ihub and in a good way...
I am not an expert in any way... but would love to be able to watch others and see their picks, why they picked them, and what when and why they are getting in and out...
and if you could put them (these traders) all together here on ihub, that would just be such a great tool for the novice investor such as myself...
further it would stop the "pump and dump" imo as people could see when you sold... and if you didn't sell on your ihub portfolio it would effect your rank, and people would be able to see your performance.
edit for the ps. I am no genius and maybe a real money feature doesn't make sense... but just was an idea for ihub to ramp up their profits and make it into a better business model and further give people the financial incentive to show their picks to the public... The legal side I have no idea I'm sure there are ways to limit any liability of ihub but it might not work... just throwing out ideas
would you like it if people could see that on your profile, ie a quick link, and possibly even give you a rank or some kind of score based off your returns?
in the future after a few years of doing this I think ihub could then move to a site which allows individuals to place money with the best traders, real money... of which the trader would get a management fee 1-3% maybe and ihub would also get a small cut... so like for every trade you would make the money linked would proportionately trade in their accounts.
so like lets say you are a really good trader, and are earning 10-15% returns year after year and I want to put money with you, i could... but I could also see your track record of everything you've done...
There ain't no party like my nanna's tea party.
ha ya grandma doesn't always react well to things she isn't use to seeing..
Go ahead punks make my day
My grandma gave me a present just last year, and the card said, "Happy Birthday queer!"
but it doesn't give you any kind of rank. Which imo would be the key.
Currently member marks are what we know to see how well we can trust someone. As a trader how do I know that these people are really as good as they say they are or their member marks show??
I'm thinking something that is a direct link in your profile, and that shows how good the trades are that you make. Shows every trade you've made. and so forth.
If the public portfolio is already there it'd be pretty easy to set up I guess.
and that people could see you do real time. and would act like you were trading, ie you'd have to have the volume at the prices you wanted to get the shares or you'd have to take market value.
Idea for IHUB
So we are on a site talking about trading about investing, but we do not have any idea the track records of anyone we talk to when it comes to trading.
IMO there should be a feature on ihub that allows you to set up a portfolio (play money) and place trades of which everyone can see, and ihub tracks your trades.
Now hear me out on this. This could then give each person not only a person mark rating, but also a trading rating, it would need to have some type of algorithm which tracks to see how true to your strategy you stay and how well you do over an extended period of time (ie your returns). And also would have to take into account daily volume (ie you can't trade 10 million shares of a stock that trades 10,000 shares).
anyways there could be a lot of cool things that go along with this, and it would imo change the dynamics of ihub completely in a good way. People would be accountable for the stocks they picked as it would show up on their trading rating... they couldn't sell while saying really good things because the ihub community would know.
and it could teach people as they could watch those who really are great traders and how they do it. (In real time)
ha thanks, but I was looking for someone who could try to defend this... if possible
I don't follow politics close enough... I know what this sounds like and what you said sounds what it is... but I was wondering if anyone could show me how it wasn't that...
and if they can't well that sucks now doesn't it
Come on rimm you know you want to turn back up... and churn upwards
ok this guy is funny
ha it never ends well for women does it...
but man does the chart look good and ready for a pop... hahaha maybe i'll risk it for a quick trade...
errr found this article... I thought this kinda sounded too good to be true... who knows
from Barron's on June 25. 2007.
"Foreign Investment --- Asian Trader: Chinese Medicine Show
By Leslie P. Norton
AOB is based in the city of Harbin, in China's northeastern Heilongjiang province, and began life in the U.S. stock market in 2002, when it came public via a reverse merger on the bulletin board. It moved to the American Stock Exchange in 2005, and last December, jumped to the Big Board. Off about 20% this year, it trades for just under six times its 2006 revenues of $110 million, though underwriter Brean Murray believes those revenues will jump to $193 million in '08.
If that happens, it means customers aren't looking very closely at two key product lines: a prescription soft-gel and over-the-counter adhesive patch to treat bed-wetting, and over-the-counter soy peptide products, which AOB has in the past suggested can inhibit the growth of tumor cells.
Packaging for both carry misleading claims. The "UrinStopper Patch" package says it contains "radioactive photons" that "warm the acupoints." But Maryland Heights, Missouri-based Chemir Analytical Services, which analyzed the patch for an investor, says it detected no radioactive elements. Meanwhile, packaging for AOB's SoyPeptide powder says it has "patent technology from University of California, Berkeley." But an official at a U.C. Berkeley's Office of Technology Licensing says, "They are not one of our licensees."
AOB chief executive Liu and other officials declined to be interviewed, citing the quiet period before the offering, but their outside investor-relations firm referred Barron's to relevant filings and answered some questions via e-mail. AOB confirmed it doesn't use technology from U.C. Berkeley. As for the patch, it says only that it was approved by Chinese regulators who required pre-clinical trials of the products.
AOB intends to become one of China's largest pharma outfits, and plans to use part of the offering proceeds to buy a Chinese company for up to $30 million. Yet things haven't always gone according to the plans it announces. In March 2004, it said its primary objective was "to penetrate the U.S., European and Asian markets," and in September 2004, that it was busy "expanding [its] nutraceutical and pharmaceutical business in the U.S." In earlier releases, it said it got 5% of sales from Japan and 20% from Korea, and that it had established a distribution arrangement in the U.K. and Europe. But in its June offer document, it says, "We currently sell our products mainly in China. China will remain our primary market for the foreseeable future."
Liu became chief executive in 1994, according to AOB, after a long career with the People's Liberation Army and as a top official with Heilongjiang province. Another top official of Heilongjiang province, Wang Xianmin, helped introduce AOB to reverse merger specialists in the U.S., and Wang Xianmin became a director of AOB in 2005. Wang was also reportedly a driving force behind the initial public offering of Daqing Lianyi Petrochemical.
In 1999, according to the Wall Street Journal, regulators found that Daqing Lianyi executives had bribed officials to facilitate its IPO. AOB's response: "Wang Xianmin was appointed to the Board of Directors as of January 19, 2005. Based on the Company's due diligence at the time he became a director, including a review of official [People's Republic of China] documentation, the Company does not believe further disclosure in its public filings is required."
Also helping AOB in its long march to the New York Stock Exchange were a couple of characters associated with penny-stock frauds. One was Mid-Continental Securities, which received shares from and was a consultant to AOB until '04. Mid-Continental was controlled by Mark Anthony, who had been barred in 1997 from associating with brokers and investment advisers or participating in penny-stock offerings. In 2005, AOB was using CEOcast, a Website that hosted video clips and sent out newsletters about small-cap stocks, for investor relations.
As my colleague Bill Alpert reported last November, CEOcast was controlled by Michael Wachs, who in 1997 served 11 months in federal prison and agreed to be barred from the banking and brokerage industries. Wachs didn't return calls, and AOB said: "We do not currently have relationships with Mid-Continental Securities nor with CEOcast."
Expect the questions to keep coming."
the boogeyman told me...
I paid all kinds of different prices for my different shares...
I got shares from .007 to .028 and a few thousand at .1125
I won't know what shares goes with which until I do my taxes.
yup. I had my limit lower but the trade went through at .025
prob should have waited but I just wanted to get out of this stock... and it was my last 50,000 shares I had... so...
.025
Times below are in the same order as the lot sizes on the last post
9:33:55 AM ET
9:33:54 AM ET
9:33:53 AM ET
today I had 50,000 shares to sell it sold in 3 lots.
7,376
10,000
and
32,624
Interesting longer term play...
Wonder if we can break the 52 level... if not I'll be adding on any pull back most likely
lol every time I do this... errr... watch ATT go to like 28 now
I feel free, but worry what might come to others.
err who knows what it is any longer.
Doug furth has said there are 72,000 share holders...
If 1 in 10 bought more shares today that's aprox 20,000 shares per that 1 out of 10 for the daily volume. or roughly 600 dollars per person...
so if furth is right and there are 72,000 share holders that's about $43 bucks per share holder..
well at the current moment your buy at .02 is better than my sell at .025 lmao
oh well such is my luck
not with scottrade. I placed the order online (well the sell order that is) not sure what a buy order would need. or what other brokers are doing..
It takes forever to match a trade on this market... my guess is the volume would be much higher right now if it still was on the OTCBB
yup... got out at .025
took forever to fill my sell, even though my limit was well below what the trades were going through...
the good news was the trade went off above my limit price...