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and it's real big too lol
Honestly one, what we have here is someone using a formula that could have a specific use in a perfect trading world, but that is not what we have in pinky land. We could have another person come around, and state they have a formula they use that shows the float to be around 175 million. So now we are stuck we two opposing opinions, and who are we to believe. The answer is simple, we should believe to T/A which is the only legally confirmed number we have. Anything other than that number is pure speculation, and should be viewed as such.
personally I think you should remove all of your post on the ESTIMATED float numbers you have posted all over IHUB. You stated in one post that you were still experimenting with the formula, so therefore it make all these post pure speculation from your piont of view, and reckless and baseless from my point of view.
Clarity also stated in a post on another board that traders flipping the stock is taken into account in this process. I am not sure what the percentage was, but I think it was in the 30% area. The fact is that when some stocks get into a trading channel it is quite possible that the number could be closer to the 80% range. i think that would mess their formula up considerably.
I agree rocket, there calculations could be extremly flawed by using volumn as the primary ingrediant in the mathmatical process. I only hope that people who read these post don't lose money by using these figures to make their trading decisions. It is also reckless to be posting such discretionary material in my opinion.
I have to take that back lol. Now you are using the word guarantee, so I guess that is pretty much the same as confirm lol
penny, I understand you used, and acknowledged the word estimate, but the other day clarity was using the word confirmed, and stated that was what was exactly what he meant.
halbroke1, once again I think you are a bit overly optomistic. Let's use a reasonable valuation as opposed to entheusiasim. Looks to be headed up next week, but let's take it one step at a time lol. I say we go for the penny first lol.
they posted 600 million shares in the float on another stock with alot of interest, and another trader just post it as 205 million, based on the algorithm method invented by a former JP Morgan Chase investment banker lol. Quite a spread in the methodoligy used wouldn't you think lol.
nice post lglatend
I saw that lol, and I know that as11 is not a good stock for comparision, with all the controversy that is surrounding it, but they have posted the float is 1.4 billion above the current outstanding share total according to the April 21 filings. That is streatching it out a little lol.
Thanks soapy, I know penny and clarity are respected by some traders, and despised by other traders. We all have our opinions about any particular stock, and are allowed to post them as long as they don't violate the TOU rules. This board more so than any other has used facts to back up all positive post to help others with their DD, but posting baseless opinions that don't correspond with factual information from the T/A or the company is an insinuation that all others are liars or are lacking education equalities. It is a shameful practice at best.
soapy they are going around posting this mess on all the boards this morning, and personally as he just implied that he is still testing the formula I consider it a reckless policy of posting such information without the possibility of confrimation from the T/A or the company
Great post million
would love to see some pre-market news, so we can watch the sideline watchers chase after the gap
I will say this ac9, the IBOX is here for people to read and begin their DD with, if they are basing their buys on message board posting alone, then they are already in trouble. If they do their DD, and read all the positive post on the board it makes them feel comfortable in their investment decision. They can go ahead and place a buy order, and hopefully get filled before a future run starts. As soapy just posted he has had a buy order in for quite some time, and has 33% of it filled. If you have any factual reason for posting negitives then I suggest you post the facts. If the run is postponed for a while longer then their money may sit there a little longer, but if they wait on the sidelines as you suggest, they may not get very many shares when the run begins. personally if you own shares in WNBD I think you should have no problem posting a screen shot of your holdings. If you are not willing to do so, I take it that you sold out , and are looking for cheepies.
we could very well end up with a monster on our hands next week that is for sure
no prob...
incase your L2 is not working .0095 is north from .008
i know we didn't get the bounce we were looking for after the gap filled, but from here moving north that is one thing that is mentally out of the picture now
we might get a taste of something small today, but next week Jared will drop the bombshell
just look around all otcbb stocks are very low volumn today... be patient
hey rocket are you the one who holds the patent to the water company asii supposedly just bought interest in lol
I agree with you on all points, and hopefully it will be used to somehow increase shareholder value. An explanation is definitly needed or at least an update on the companies activity. If it is being used for company benefit I hate to see the pps driven down like it has, because you can at least agree it has been somewhat controlled. I hate to see it when you have an 80 - 100 million share dump, and everyone runs for the hills lol.
Righty you know as well as I do even if they were to max out the A/S the market cap at the current pps wouldn't even cover the shell price. I don't like to see the selling either, but with any good information at all this baby will move easily. Good luck to ya.
boy just by reading post and seeing when you happen to show up on message boards you must have one miserable life
kermit you are right about the gap being filled right about the same time we hit the 200 ma. I beleive we will see a nice bounce from that level, and with any luck maybe we could get an update of orders from the petro show and really make it run hard.
hey dude, I am not here to argue with you, but you are flat out lieing about talking to the IR guy, or he is playing you for a fool, either way it is wrong. There has been a faxed copy share structure viewed by a very reputible trader, so you need to stop spreading that trash.
I wouldn't go so far as to say others weren't bothered, but with such a small amount, and with the aquisition of the office building PR'ed earlier in the day I just don't think they saw it as the sky was falling. If you are looking for a publicly traded company that is going to release information to share holders every time they have a need to aquire capital for needed assets, you will be searching for that infamous needle in the hay stack.
agreed
I don't question that line of thinking at all don, but I think before we began to cry wolf in the middle of a run we need to attempt to understand the reasoning
welcome aboard, and an interesting night of conversations you happen to come in on. Some people here don't seem to know the difference between a company raising capital for equitable assets, and a company that is dumping on the shareholders, but other than that it's all good here
hey jabber how ya doing tonight my freind
One more time guys
Dilution- A lessening of real value or equity, or a decrease in realitive worth.
I know we all call when a company releases shares into the market dilution, but I think the defenition above is self explanatory. We did neither of the two from a capital standpoint.
hey mojo, I think you are ready for the beach my freind lol, and you can go to the ecomerce sight to get some grease remover to get all that body oil off lol
yea right ickyy lol, wish I had your insider info. lol
hope you mean gone as in up burp lol
We have already been through all the reasons as to why, how much, when, and they lied. Now I think we need a little english lesson here.
Dilution: A lessening of real value (as equity)
A decrease in realitive worth.
i think we can now put the dilution word to rest in this case, because it increased the real value of this company, and added to the net worth of the company.
wasn't trying to start an arguement here dude, I was only stating that if someone were to read your post and see the word confirmed they might feel as though it is an official or legal confirmation, as opposed to someone's opinion