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I just bought his book.. only $20 i've lost more than that on the stock, why not take a chance to get a glimpse into his mind and try and see what he's thinking...
If the growth rate keeps at the same pace we will be a $100mm+ company this year... think they'll need dilution then?.... Will they even need a RS then...?
Has any company ever climbed out of $0.01pps out of the penny stocks? if so i would like to look at that company and compare..
yeah... why chase it when we can let it bottom out and buy it lol
anyone think we'll see subpenny again? if so i'ma get ready!!! we all kinda saw this coming, theyre gonna need money for walmart distribution.. this isnt an unexpected dump of shares...
If all we do is maintain current sales we will have $11mm increase for next year... and we'll be at $32mm.... but theres no way thats happening... 4mm to 21mm.... i'm lookin @$110.25mm if the growth rate in 2012 is the same as 2011
all i have to say is for the love of the universe coming back into balance, lets hope they don't dilute this spike down..
all i have to say is for the love of the universe coming back into balance, lets hope they don't dilute this spike down..
hell yeah
According to MMA Elite's facebook page they will have their supplement line in the UK "mid to late '12" here is the link... scroll down the comments to see
Also they will have 2 flavors rolling out nationally.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150628905615853.439606.319295540852&type=1
I just looked at the charts, more like played around with them... I've never looked at them before, so from an amatuers point of view it does look like we already made it through the bottom and are in an upward climb..
Here is an idea regarding a buyout... or perhaps a change in the restructure of the company..
Do the voting shares they have, have a lifetime on them? Are they good forever? What if these guys have been told that having these voting right shares is negatively impacting the company, or a buyer says you must get rid of these voting right shares..
So bam, they quickly draw up a plan to bonus themselves as many shares as possible, because without the voting shares, they don't own 51% of the common stock and can not control it.
Next they realize that even after this bonus, they don't have as many shares as they need to maintain the 51% and fulfill all of the convertible shares, so they authorize another 1.5billion to cover this....
PIcture this..
-Acquisition of Investment Firm
-Walmart Rollout/MMA Elite online purchases available
--Walmart Paired with UFC autographs
-Positive Q4/Year end financials
-SEC filing removing the voting shares, leaving a must have 51% common shares to control company
What do you think this kind of news will do to the PPS?
just a possibility that my brain has conjured, feel free to comment good or bad..
regarding a takeover...
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-takeover-target.htm
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/07/takeover_target.asp#axzz1lQadaw6t
could be the answer for the A/S ... but on the other hand that wouldn't matter if a company bought a majority shares, because these guys retain voting rights either way....
Has anyone read his book? Maybe his "secret" to where the company is going will be subtly outlined in the book, and possible be our infamous crystal ball everyone is talking about
Could it be possible that they are giving themselves these bonuses because they won't be there in the future? Or at least not in the position of authority they are in now...
If they get bought out they will no longer have control of EVERYTHING and will likely not be able to bonus themselves without going through and more intelligent (board) ie someone besides themself...
maybe right now they're motto is "get it while it lasts"
another thought that goes with this motto ^^^^^ is once we reach a peak in sales, consistent sales without the 200%-300% growth rate this bonus plan will be pretty much minimal since its based on NEW sales... too bad theres not a clause that states if they drop in sales they take it out of their check :) talk about a real incentive lol
Did they sell Assault in 2010? Assault has 2 forms of creatine in it. I just checked my tub of Assault and its on there.. Not sure what the 2010 blend of Assault might have had... just a thought.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! MMA Elite to hold autograph signing at 3 Walmarts in Nevada follow this link for details
http://www.mmaelite.net
You'll see that there will be 3 locations, and the first day of the signing will be on February 10th!!!
Here we goooo!!!!!
I hope you're right... Has anyone run across any figures that pertain to what MP's cut of these sales will be? I know its been stated that most products at Walmart have a tiny profit margin, but I'm just curious if there are any figures out there.
good point...
Check out MP's response when asked to compare MP vs MMA Elite products..
http://www.facebook.com/musclepharm/posts/10150569726223476?notif_t=feed_comment_reply
Do a google search on "Creatine Nitrate" and ask yourself why all of the other companies that show up aren't getting sued and just MP...
Not saying anything to the credibility of the articles.. just seems a little fishy that they would go after MP when everyone else is doing the same...
Also if this is real and they win against MP it would open the door for almost every supplement company to sue every other supplement company, because they all use a lot of the same names on all of their respective products.. i.e. PreWorkouts, PostWorkouts, and so on..
my opinion.. just seems a little fishy
why do you ask?
Isn't there a minimum number of shares you have to have out on the market in order to qualify for a major exchange? Also, if there is, would there have been enough shares after their bonuses to cover this minimum share number?
there were 2.. i had one and someone else made one.. I am telling people to go to the other and i'm going to shut my down in a few days, once i see that the few people are there have moved over..
the link to mine is www.facebook.com/musclepharmshareholders
you can follow this to the MP investor community page
I'll take down the www.facebook.com/musclepharmshareholders if the other person wants to keep up with theirs...
I propose that instead of linking each post to the FB page we just start posting on that page.. that way its easier to follow the topic threads, and comments and everything..
The one that I created on Facebook is still there
www.facebook.com/musclepharmshareholders
I tried to wait for subpenny, but i believe if it goes subpenny again it will be a stroke of luck(for people looking to get in there) I went ahead and got in again at $.0111 I have a feeling that something big is on the horizon... as lolz pointed out.. why would they need an Investment firm to tell them how to RS and dilute?! Good Point LOLZ, they already know how to do that...
How about this:
Issue more shares to investors, similar to the Southridge deal. Keep the pps down until bonuses are awarded... (which seem to have been awarded now, conveniently right before walmart rollout and 4th qtr/year end financials are released.) then with solid real life walmart roll out, paired with good financial statements(on the heals of retaining an investment firm) allow the pps to take its natural course and drive up... then allow the stock price to drive up and peak out where ever it can, thennnnn at that point do a R/S
let say hypothetically the stock price could reach $0.50 ( longshot i know, but still remaining positive) then they RS from there?!.... instead of a 1000:1, or 100:1 they would only need a 10:1 RS to get to the coveted $5/share which will take us out of the official "penny stock" name by definition...
I believe that if these actions take place, the company will become more shareholder friendly(obviously because at this point they have much at stake as well) and we, as shareholders, investors, owners(whatever term you prefer) will be kept in the loop more..
Also if something like this happens, it will show(at least to me) that they are getting their finances under control, they have a strategy, and definitely will not need to be bought out..
or they could just be wasting their money on an investment firm, to tell them how to RS and dilute.. which they already know how to do ....
all my opinion of course.... please feel free to point out any flaws in this opinion i welcome it..... I personally am at a point where i am ready to cut my losses or dig in.. pending this quarter..
if these guys are so closely in bed with MP, chances are they are investors.. and chances are they have more info than any of us, just through chatter with the MP management on a "friendly" level
Why do you think anyone above $.05 is screwed... I'm not questioning your call, i would just like further explanation, my avg is @ $.0139, and I am just curious about your reasoning that is all
your statement sounds pretty logical to me..
Perhaps the authorization of 1.5b more shares has to do with deals being made to investors, similar to the southridge deal...... but with more investors... also, could this be a set up for an acquisition? If MP gets bought out, do they keep their 51% shares that pertain to voting rights? my understanding is that they are useless in this scenario .....and they would need to control 51% of the common stock during an acquisition to make out like bandits...
alrighty cool thanks, i understand it now. much appreciated.
and at what price would you own the shares at?
ok i'm new.. can someone answer this for me... during a RS what happens
lets say you have 100,000 shares at $.01 on a `1000 to 1 RS what does this turn into?
JWblue what is your take on the news of the Investment Firm?
we'll need a RS for that
the big question is... will they dilute on this news? buy now or wait?!
NEW INFORMATION... MSLP retains investment firm
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/musclepharm-retains-investment-banking-firm-national-securities-corporation-2012-02-01
WOW i "liked" the official MP page on facebook and they already removed it!!! Did not even post anything on their page!! They definitely don't like the Musclepharmshareholders facebook page
You are quite welcome. I have added your photo as the default on the FB page
www.facebook.com/musclepharmshareholders
Also your short poem to the description of the page..
Now I have to keep an eye on their facebook and whenever someone says something i'll send a private message to hat person giving them the link so they can post their questions their.. Eventually MP will see it..
www.facebook.com/musclepharmshareholders
perhaps if we move our conversations to a more public venue they will be forced to treat the shareholders better. Also, if anyone notices someone asking questions about the stock on their facebook just message that person the link to this page and they can ask their questions here....
I was actually thinking about something a little different.