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sterv
I personally, deal better from the neg... positive is good, but show me the pimples and blemishes and tell the bad ... I don't like pump at all , but I can deal with it... I like to question both sides and that is the way it should be...never take anything at face especially in these pps stocks... so I am glad U da man now... lets move onward for everyone...
in my opinion...
Imirish...
cy
yep
they better be very careful of frontrunning any news... it looks real bad...
in my opinion...
Imirish...
what I dislike
is someone is trading with inside information.... friday night before close... 3mm... traded , monday news... now right after open 1mm then news hit.... in my opinion...
Imirish..
saw
you have reached my point to the discussion we are having..
"However, the by definition, the pinks carry a ton of baggage that prevents many investors from even considering investing in a company listed on the pinks. Less potential investors means less demand which means less potential for price appreciation. It comes down to a cost-benefit analysis:"
with our little gem on a buying spree, and in that spree I am pretty sure a few duds came of it... %'s tells me this... could some of those costs to purchase have been wiser to do the sarb-ox and more upward out pinko land faster...with your statement ,My thinking is yes....."cost-benefit analysis"
in my opinion
Imirish...
saw
thanks for the pm on this... seems we agree on somethings ...
Imirish...
saw
for every industry slant there is a ruined investor many times over.... like I said... sarb-ox... in my opinion is a good thing.... if companys officials did the right thing there would have been no need for it... we will see... hopefully within the year a real uplist off of the pinks is our/Pbls future...
then the fun begins...
Imirish...
sterv
u da man... congrads I think as to assistant mod... hard job and we can use a good honest guy of your caliber for sure... as a matter of fact most of these boards could... lol...
Imirish....
saw
my friend, that is ok, we agree to disagree... hang in there on this little gem, maybe the sun will arise "soon" we hope...
Imirish...
saw
every company that has failed to do the right thing and become transparent is using sarb-ox as an excuse... legit companys that want to uplist and has the "goods" so to speak will be well rewarded by following the rules... with the uplisting alone by using the sarb-ox rules to get that transparency will reward the company many times over for the expenses by increased shareholders, funds that may then qualify to invest in those companys.... this sarb-ox is a red herring that companys whine about and hide behind to do miss deeds... many forget the idea was and is to protect the investors for crooks plain and simple... it is like these same companys hiding behind naked shorting on every little company or market maker manipulation.... if the lightweight ceo's managements of those companys would do the right thing instead of lining their personal pockets all the time then guess what there would have been no need for a sarb-ox, we all must remember that..... just think if pbls with all the pr'ed good things happening over this last year , would have meet the sarb-ox and uplisted.... a buck or two would be in the cards "NOW" right "NOW" if they have what they say they have..... we will see... all in my opinion....
Imirish...
sterv
thanks,
Imirish..
welittlegreen
just wait they will come to you... I expect to hear some greef for that statement... lol... really..
Imirish...
finance lizard
whatever my man you are smoking or taking give us all some... geezzz... get some kind of perspective... there is no dumping going on just a orderly market now... nothing more nothing less... in my opinion...
Imirish...
han
my man... to each investor/gambler their own style... I was just pointing out that one could have it both ways and keep liquid just in case this is the usual pinko... we really don't know until... but that was promissed a long time ago... but it will be "soon" if anyone can figure out what the meaning of soon is to pa....
in my opinion...
Imirish...
han
did you know that you can go to your local bank or savings and loan in most any part of the country and get a secure , CD that is paying around 5 to 5 1/2 % for only a 6 month lockup on any amount under 10k, just did that last week.... depending on size of your $$'s it can be higher... no, what I can't understand, duh to me... is why in the world would anyone lock themselves up for 5 years with a company that has in my opinion shown to be unfriendly to shareholders and lack transparency of any kind... it really is foolish.... in my opinion.... hold common and if you want a decent secure return that a penny stock cannot guarentee.. just go to the cd market and add liquid moneys to common / security / then the preferred is just not a good deal... liquidity is very important in these pinkos in my opinion
Imirish...
ronbate
my bad, but I think u would agree it is trading like one... but in saying that, my responce to him stands, and I agree this is a great potential stock here... we will see...
Imirish...
the Expert
u really need to understand the meaning of posts , being an expert in the investment world as I am sure u are , it would be good to try to be an expert in the real world... making a few dollars,(which is different for everyone) is more of a resonable goal, than your making a KILLING in pinko world.... get reasonable because as an expert that you are u must understand that s h i t happens in pinkoland that mostly is bad... I am not here to answer to you but I will give you the curtesy of an answer... I learned a long time ago in the message board world that people that are fearful and unsure of their investment/gamble question the posters more than question their decisions and the company... I suggest u direct that fear of legit questions to the company, believe me that will free you from the fear in your investment my friend.... good luck and I hope everyone makes "a killing here"
in my opinion
Imirish...
Iwantmoney
I agree with you.... this could be a nice get... good luck and thanks for your thoughts...
Oh, seems like the EXPERT, doesn't care for legit questions without having to explain myself... seem that way to you..?
Imirish..
The Expert
same as everyone, to exchange ideas , listen to all points of view and make a good decision.... isn't that why you are here... oh ya, to try to make a few dollars in pinko land without getting hammered like so many do.... I hope that is ok with you... not that I care but what is your exact purpose for being here... ?
Imirish...
Iwantmoney
thanks... not an expert by far, but when perception of problems in an industry, everyone gets painted with the same brush so to speak.... erroring on the side of caution and conservative, how much do you expect ?
Imirish..
Iwantmoney
ok , thanks... but again do you think because of the overall picture in the industry, that should prove to be much lower now... just looking for your thoughts I guess..
Imirish...
Iwantmoney
nice post also... do you have a thougt on my post to stevrc?
Imirish...
stervc
best post of the day... one question though if you would mind...
where do you derive the P/E ratio of 16.5%... given the sectors overall issues at present, just wondering your thinking on that possibly being much lower... just for your thoughts please...
Imirish...
Low float goat
u caught this too!
" as cash flows will allow."
I find it interesting that will all these divisions cash flow would even be an issue... don't u?
in my opinion
Imirish...
fmi
we agree on this post... the problem is and will continue to be, that nothing that is pr'd is proven...
"I think 80 million one division contract is pretty positive."
i.e. this ! we can only assume without facts and that is a very iffy game for us long suffering shareholders... in my opinion... regards
Imirish...
dlaserman
that is the point, I personally want to hear all views ... and your back and forth on this subject really is ok with me.... you are one of the great posters here as far as I am concerned.... but to delete unevenly is wrong on any level...
continue with your thinking on this language of our little gem pbls , that is good...
In my opinion...
Imirish...
seeclear
this is for you... call me if you can ...
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Imirish...
Whirligig
with all due respect... I have not ask gn to tell us ... what I have said , is if he has knowledge of nonpublic info as it "seemed" he did then that is not right and should be disclosed.... as to dd.... all we can legally know is what pr's tell us... a company spokesman or woman, cannot tell anyone calling or emailing the company anything legally that is not public information and if that is the case then they are illegal and could face action.... in my opinion.... so dd is overrated to say the least.... I am wondering with the rapid fire purchases of all those little gems of companys , how anyone with as small a staff as our little gem could possibly do proper dd on those companys they purchased... only companys with big time peeps on the payroll such as GE or Mfst could buy that many companys in such a short period of time with so many unrelated fields without some kind of problems in my opinion..... who knows though, but I am sure they did their dd though.... in my opinion...
Imirish...
gn
thanks, but does that mean no?
Imirish..
gn
it is interesting to me that we should sell and give pa a pass... no, that is not your decision.... no reason to sell now.... and that is not an argument for you or anyone to make with most being underwater .... all they have to do is you know what... it doesn't have to work this way... transparency is the answer for all.... then a good decision can be made.... most bought into this on the pit, the pa went into a uncontrolled buying spree like a kid in a candy store.... was the dd on those deals public and could we have made a decision based on that, no.... before we knew it we were in oil, pools and whatever little gem he decided before you could say "release the share count and file".... now we know nothing and you seem to indicate you have info that is not in the public domain... at least some are reading it that way with your boasts to the board.... so, show us what you seem to think you know and let us all in your thinking other that speculation on what some person supposedly said on some email or phone call from some division.... tell us all of your wisdom we would like that.... respectfully...
In my opinion...
Imirish...
gn my friend
it seems this is a great post by you... we agree 100%, see being objective is good...
in my opinion...
Imirish...
gn
my friend, I assume that your post to me is funny.... that was your intent I guess... well it was.... I know that nothing is solid and written in a filing or a real share count... so by knowing that I guess I do know everything... how in the world my friend gn, do you arrive at facts when no facts have been delivered by the company, unless you know something no one else knows to be facts.... deal with facts on the assumption that they are growing and making profits... they and we have no facts on that.... I know "soon" they will show us the audited and ungag.. right.... good luck with your investment and for all our sakes everyone including me here... we all deserve it.... but boy it didn't have to be this way if the word of management could have been followed by "FACTS" like real companys do... just an opinion...
Imirish...
Whiriligig
my friend you really must stop making these statements...
there is absolutely no truth in them..
"Most divisions of PBLS seem to be in positive growth stages but probably spending as much money as they are making leaving little if any profit."
there is no way without filing and ungagging u can say this... and that is the point you need to see..
in my opinion
Imirish...
El Cornholio
no it is not..
Imirish..
Whirlgig
only in your opinion of course... I can name many companys that the stock once broke , they have never recovered...
Imirish...
airdale
I agree on the much higher than 815 really no other reason for gagging in my opinion....
like I said, they better not go that way, they will break this stock then...
Imirish...
airdale
boy, I hope that isn't in the cards.... one thing you would create in your option you picked that could become a real big problem.... because of doing that the stock could be broke forwever.... word of misdeeds of management gets out now fast as to shareholders getting screwed... internet and such.... this would in my opinion put a perment scar on the company and forgo any possible "TRUST" in the future.... I would bet that the value would in fact plummet for a long long long time and possibly never recover any future real value.... regardless of pr's and numbers.... trust is so important in the markets and a broken stock is a broken stock once trust is gone.... I have seen this way too many times in other stocks were management sucks peeps in with pr's and promisses only to reverse course and kill the shareholders... a reverse split no matter how it seems to look on paper , in the real world it kills a stock for ever in my opinion....
Imirish...
diaserman, airdale
exactly, showing us whatchagot is the solution... hiding or fudging the unknown is the reason we are here at this .012 level... investors want daylight now in the markets and anyone with the hint of gaming people will simply not take the plunge or move a pps forward.... sljb is the perfect example of this.... that is junk but at least the public has the facts so to speak.... pbls is nothing more than guessing and no real facts... "the truth will set you free" how more important words from I can't remember is so true.... they should just open up the books and ungag and let this puppy move.... AIRDALE, my bet is well over that stated 815million more in the billion area ... in my opinion....
Imirish...
small
correction... nothing of real value that is "numbers" to base anything on....
with the other company, everyone knows it was a scam ... goes to show you once transparency of anykind is there a stock can move upward with good info or bad.... in my opinion.... so bring on the filing and ungag...
Imirish...
smallfish
the difference is on pbls , we have nothing of real value, unless you have a secret decoder ring and hat on, on sljb, that is a momo game with everyone now knowing the facts as to lies and smoke, because they are exposed ... in my opinion.... really!
Imirish...
momentumtrader
that post my friend is laughable.... not one thing in your post is verifiable at all... nothing.... it is a repeat of company line and wishful thinking.... that is fine for you but any investor/gambler would want "HARD AND VERIFIABLE" FACTS that only ungagging and filing could report... no value of anykind can be put on this company with the present information to the shareholders , pure and simple... accounting for expressed promotion in pr's is only done with hard facts.... but in saying that you are welcome to your thinking in this free and open board... thanks, but give me the facts...
in my opinion..
Imirish...