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Reverse - I think it is stupid to rhetorically make negative statements about a stock that you want to see do well and that you are long on, especially in the face of positive happenings, like getting off the pinks! Bizzare!!! It's like you say the "reverse" of what you want to happen, hence your screen name! lol
Reverseman, whether you choose to state facts or opinions, the jest of most of your messages certainly are negative. Given that plain simple fact, you seem to be a very negative, pessimistic and cynical fellow. If this carries over into your personal life, then you are miserable as well!
mysscat- will you post the financials?
You see reverse, the difference between you and me is that I believe in the technology and am confident that Abbott is going to commercialize the recaf technology, and Biocurex will reap substantial rewards. It is just a matter of time. Why should I be concerned about the stock price? It always goes back up! This is going to take a little while to develop, we are still on the pinks and it is quiet. The low price should be understandable. This is a positive for people who are interested in increasing their position.
It is amazing to me that you would buy this stock and continue putting money into it when you don't have much faith that the technology will ever make it to market. Based on your last post, you actually expect to lose your investment! I find that very funny. Maybe you should sell your shares to me now while you still can and cut your loses. Wouldn't that be funny if you do lose and sell me all of your shares @ .43 while you're at it? lol... ohh would be too funny!
Reversetaxman: I believe the reason you haven't heard anything from Abbott in so long is because Abbott has no incentive to say anything! I know you are biased in your thinking because you are seeing your investment dwindling, but be logical for one moment. There is no benefit for Abbott stating publicly the progress of recaf development. Complete terms of the licensing agreement aren't public, but we do know that Abbott can return the license with no further obligation at anytime, but they have not (after 18 mos). That is a very positive sign when viewed along the positive statements about the progress from Biocurex, and with the knowledge that Abbott won't make any public statements until they are ready to trigger the milestone payment which will be in the millions.
I like the skepticism surrounding this stock and the pink sheet trading, because it is creating a wonderful buying opportunity. My next purchase price will be @ .43 to bring down my purchasing avg to under a dollar.
What if Dr. Moro and his executive own more than 50% of the company, know that the technology will be a blockbuster when it gets the proper exposure and is not interested in selling out. Could that be the reason Abbott has not bought them out with a hostile take over bid? That not only sounds reasonable, but likely if you believe information coming out of the company!
I won't waste my time giving you more reasons because convincing you in the face of your insecure feelings about this stock is your purpose and is not on my agenda! What do I care what you do with your money?
Royalties on the profits was a misprint. I will restate it as simply "royalties".
Good ?'s Goldseeker. I have the answer to one of them. I have a ? for you though, "Why do you care?" If this company is a sham as you imply? You divested? You obviously aren't convinced yourself. You have already shown your worth to this board as an incedible poster, making baseless untrue statements hoping for some commentary that refutes your assertions.
Anyway, to answer your ? on the upfront fee, BOCX has so much faith in the technology, they took a small upfront fee with the trade off being, a heavily backloaded deal, in which they will get substantial payments when milestones are acheived and 10 - 15% of the profits when products begin to sell with know expenditures on their side.
Bocxman- I suppose that statement by Goldseeker solidifies his status as a basher. Not invested, but continues to post negative, blatant lies about the stock. I know that if I thought negatively about a stock and was not invested in it, I would not waste my time posting and/or checking the related message board! The question is what is his motive to bash and why hasn't he moved on? Personality disorder? Liar? Shorter? What?
Goldseeker, what do you care what happens to this stock? You are no longer an investor, yet you won't go away, despite MANY already bidding you good riddence! But hey, if your goal is to negatively influence the price, feel free. I am trying to get this 5K order filled @ .60,it's been open 3 days and counting.
Good riddence to Gold Seeker!!!
Goldseeker: If you believe that BOCX is just a shell with the sole purpose of milking $, while furthering it's technology, then your presence here should be short lived, right? If not, then you must just be a basher. And, if you draw your conclusions from feedback you read that other posters write on a message board, then that speaks volumes about your sensibility.
I've been reading this message board for quite some time and every poster who appears to be disenchanted with this stock continues to post or hold a position. Why is that? Why don't they just move on? The only reason I am able to think of is that they are only speaking negatively about the stock because they are looking for someone to convince them otherwise (spineless whimps), or they are a basher and think they can influence the stock price to get a bargin on some shares. Fortunately most of these posters here have been with this company for a while and know enough to know that this company has integrity and has something very valueable (you obviously believe you have more insight than Abbott). You are fairly new here and don't know what you are talking about half the time. You speculate on things even though you don't have all the facts right. Who in their right mind is going to listen to you? I don't know why Bocxman even wastes his time debating you
What's up with you Goldseeker? If you think the technology is not going to pan out, why do you hesitate to sell your entire position. You holding a position in the company is a direct contradiction to your posts. I have deduced that either you are a basher, a person that is looking for validation for your wife's decision to invest, or just an idiot. One of the three!
Basher = low life, sewer dwelling, message board scum!
I was refering to the greenbaron interview! Let me know if you need the link.
Gold seeker, the statement refers to recaf being absent in most benign and normal cells, "most" being the operative word. This makes that statement true.
Reverseman - follow your own advice and sell yours too. You obviously believe there is a good chance everything is going to work out well with this stock, or you would have moved on, but you will keep checking on it. Otherwise you would have moved on an stopped wasting your time.
I appreciate the committment to your word, however I could not require such a thing of you. May God bless us all!
I love the black and white explanation. You are completely right. However, in my humble opinion, there is a better than 80% chance Abbott will give the thumbs up!!! If the license deal that Abbott signed won't be considered third party validation by this board, (even though,(and this wasn't advertised) Abbott sent 3 separate blind studies for prostate and lung detection, with each resulting in more impressive results than the next. From 80 / 80 something sensitivity / specificity to 90 / 90 something.) Then, it WILL be perceived by the majority of rational investors as such, after Abbotts thumbs up, stated publically!!!
Think about it. Of course the volume is going to increase dramatically, if people are buying at the bid!!! It means nothing more than a sell off! If the volume was 200,000 tomorrow, it would more than likely be because the ask dropped to .70 . There are undoubtedly thousands of shares waiting to be bought at the bid on any given day. Don't let your wishful thinking cloud your good judgement!
Hopefully, the price will go up soon, so you could sell off your remaining shares, then this board can be rid of you and your whinning!
Bocxman - I find solice in your words of wisdom. I believe you were told of some very promising upcoming things during your last conversation with the good Dr.. Am I on the right page? I've got a extra "G" in my pocket and would love to double it!
Holding so many shares, it's hard to wait for so long. I am begining to identify with how it must of been like for Job, of the Bible. I wish I could see some light at the end of this tunnel. It would certainly make this long wait more bearable!
Maybe the next time someone calls Dr. Moro, or the company, they will inquire about the status of our attempts to get off of the pink sheets. It would appear that the broker sponser still has some hurdles to overcome with the SEC!
The recaf molecule is not found on benign, or in normal cells, ONLY on cells that have cancer. It disappears at birth and only reappears when cancer is present. This is according to BIOCUREX! It sounds like many on this board are disputing this. If so, that makes the founders of the company liars. If that is the case why are those investors still aboard in this venture?
Mysscat- That was a very well stated post! Patience will be greatly rewarded; and for the skeptics who sell before the breakout, hindsight will become 20/20!
"These results complement those previously announced for breast cancer and they strongly suggest that the RECAF blood test could detect early stages of all the major cancer types"
I think Dr. Moro believes based on lab research and results, that recaf can detect early stages of all of the major cancer types. He prefaced that with words like "could" and "strongly suggest", which reminds me of a disclosure statement, probably until it can be validated by outside labs. The company already got in trouble for statements that weren't symantically correct, he is just being careful. I don't think he would have even made the statement, unless he felt very positively about the results of their research, "STRONGLY suggest that the RECAF blood test could detect early stages of all the major cancer types". This clearly is very positive news for investors.
Kag - any attempts to read something negatively into the last pr is ridiculous, as I'm sure most on this board will agree! So save it, man!
I think we would see a sharp spike and then we would be taken off of the pinks and go straight to the AMEX because we would qualify financially at that point!
But do you also realize that when BOCX hit $3.90, we weren't on the pink sheets. We were on the Bulletin Board!!!
DAKOTA - DOES BEING ON THE PINK SHEETS HAVE ANY MEANING TO YOU? HOW ABOUT THESE WORDS - EXTREMELY HIGH RISK; NO CREDIBILITY; TOO VOLATILE; NO INSTITUTIONAL INVESTING!
I HOPE YOU ARE BEGINNING TO GET THE PICTURE!!!
It's 140k+ that I claim! It's not really that scary. I'm not a science guy. I saw enough to believe it works, I knew that recaf disappeared at birth, just didn't know that recaf was a direct result of rapid cell division, e.g., if the body has reason to produce rapid cell division in a case other than cancer, the recaf level will also increase as a result. That's what I believe your stating is the case, right? I'm still not so sure that is the case! If so, what are some of the instances you could think of that would cause cells to rapidly divide other than cancer!
I did not know recaf detects rapid cell division. I thought it only detected the recaf. I suppose I have that Greenbaron interview with Dr. Whittenburg stuck in my head when he is explaining how for all intents and purposes the recaf disappears at birth and resurfaces in malignant cancerous cells. I thought the technology was pretty much based on that. This is the first time I think I've heard of the technology detecting rapid cell division. News to me! Can you provide any links so that I can do some more due dilligence on this topic of cell division detection?
Thanks!
Erthang
Well, there could be 2 schools of thought on this quote.
"We do not know yet if the normal RECAF concentration is constant enough to make this personalization possible."
I was focusing on "do not know yet", possibly meaning it has to be proven either way, through extensive samples and testing, in order to posssibly be included in with a future FDA submission, which could take time.
If you had put my quote that you pasted into context, you'd see that I didn't deny that there would be variations, only I believe that in the end, for most, the variations will probably be insignificant for the purposes of early cancer detection.
Erthang
I didn't misunderstand. You speak as though Biocurex doesn't really believe in their technology. Who are you to decide what Biocurex needse at this point? For the sake of argument, let's say they believe in their technology (which they do), they know that Abbott is approaching a milestone payment, (which they are). Why should they come crawling on their hands and knees to Abbott begging for press release favors? Would you do that if you were running a business? lol! Please, for a moment, assume these men have pride!
Abbott is going to develop and market the serum recaf, Biocurex needs no money for that. They will have plenty of money from licensing deals in order to develop therapuetics and imaging when the time is right. As a matter of fact, they are already working on it! They are fine for now in terms of cash. If you don't believe me, call the good Dr. Moro and ask him for yourself!
Twelvebees - your logic doesn't make any sense to me. That is just not the way "big business" works!
Twelvebees- I can answer that with this question, "What makes you think Abbott cares one way or the other what Biocurex's stock price is?". Their concern is only with the technology. The stock price is Biocurex's concern, and shareholders not Abbotts'!
Kag - I could be wrong, but I didn't read anywhere in the last press release that the levels of recaf varies in the same individual overtime. I think that the implication was that the conclusion that you have drawn is unknown at this time! My guess is that your assumption that, that is the case is incorrect. I think that the variations in recaf levels in an individual who doesn't have cancer will prove to be insignificant!
Kag - when you post quotes, please post them in context!
Great analogy - Half-full Glass!