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If more people would stay on these guys, maybe they'd put more effort into turning the company into a legitimate business ( seems to me that it could be).
Do you think LQMT should remain a trashy penny stock?
There have been some serious long term investors...get screwed....
I'm having a hate day with this stock. I expected more from the .....
Some of the people there know what high standards are, ethics, etc.....shouldn't they be expected to live up to them.
Dog 'em. They deserve it.
Wait a minute, if stock price was around .5 August '10 ( was that the approximate time frame when LQMT/AAPL first signed an agreement?), then those early investors are still playing catch up after dilution, etc.
The time to buy was at the low this summer. The company was hardly communicating then about anything ( apparently on purpose).
I'm surprised that people have settled for just pumps from this company and dilution.
I think investors should expect more from execs at LQMT given their credentials. I also think that if investors were to stay on these guys, they could get more open and proactive.
Maybe some investors have?
Oil was down or flat and equities were up.
And they could in press releases, etc. Maybe they are too used to pulling the wool over peoples eyes to know how to go about showing developments legitimately.
It's easy for me to get excited for about 24 hours after a conference call like the last one before the reality starts to synch in.
If LQMT really has alloys worth commercializing, why isn't there more interest or publication about it.
Maybe some will come soon, e.g. Advertising, etc.
Until it does, things look kind of "flat".
It seems to me ( and this probably doesn't sound very astute) that LQMT hasn't really been negotiating contracts ( at least not yet) that demonstrate that they expect to generate revenue streams from their IP and parts sales beyond license fees.
The emphasis seems to still be on license fees (vs. production and royalties from any of any significant scale according to them, e.g. Swatch).
They used the excuse that they have been in vacarious financial situations as as the reason they have made tradeoffs which is probably true.
But looking back and even recently at how they dilute, haven't communicated about developments openly, etc......they look shady to me.
It's still "string along" verbage in CCs with an emphasis on the remaining stages of commercialization ( nothing sounds "exciting" .... Just methodical business as usual and in arbitration with their primary partner for manufacturer").
If these guys could talk more numbers and forecasts that sound more positive....but they still sound like they are learning to walk.
Call it early stage or what have you, but the more sr. people working there are anything but.
I believe that they feel comfortable with their relationship with AAPL even though it hasn't resulting in supporting the development of any contracts for non-CE business to any level of significance to date.
They probably aren't big enough to work much on projects outside of their arrangement with AAPL.
How long have they been talking advancing one or two parts with customers and prospects ( a year now).
They haven't really been able to describe "how" they will grow revenue with specifics beyond licensing and contract consulting type of work.
Their kind of on the hook now that they emphasize shareholder value more, but I believe that unless someone stays on them to report back, it could get watered down in the future.
I'm not long until they start to come out it with financials that are growing/improving.
People can taunt for missing a pump, but the pumps haven't been based on legitimate business in my opinion.
It's offensive to me when qualified professionals settle for less and it seems to me that they are either too complacent or too used to doing business in a way that undercuts someone else.
Not cool at all. The appearance of improvement in one CC is a start, but ...... Investors in effect are still left hanging.
The next fed mtg is on 12-6, right. Could be good for miners.
That's great. Ready for takeoff, lol.
I saw the Yellen hearing later ( didn't realize it had already occurred). She sounded pretty specific ( and knowledgable). Impressive. It sounded like she covered all basis for starters.
This could be the meeting of the decade, the one that sets off the Santa Clause rally. are you ready skeedadddyyyy, lol.
It seems like it doesn't really matter, meaning, fed will do what ever they decide, etc. When's the meeting?
I don't know, some were pretty tough on the most recent supreme court judge ..... But she wasn't elected yet and didn't have gray hair, lol.
No offense, it sounds like the venture was just as much of a learning experience ....
... But steady could still win the race.
.... If LQMT had picked a different partner for prototypes they might have more business by now ( based on their claims).
....ask yourself, if they are so into quality, why didn't they qualify the partner they picked?
I don't think it's a good idea to get comfortable with anything; if you do, you could get whacked. I'm more interested in "what's your exit price?"
We'll leave you alone now.....we're making money in metals, just not the liquid ones except for black gold....isn't that what it is about on these boards, making money.
If this one is for drumming up suckers, there may not be that many left!
Who sees event risk with Yellen's preso today? .... It sounds soft on tapering, and good for gold, et al.
Commodities are happening, just not at LQMT.
....and LQMT for the next 3 years....zzzzzzz
Or, do the execs already have all the shares they want and just need to sit back and wait with the assurance that the company will probably continue for at least three more years.
After three years, some major customers are ready to roll with LMT (or already are) and LQMT would be ready to be acquired.
Question, does Steipp have an employment agreement and for how long.
Consider looking at it this way, if you were an executive of a company and were already financially set, and had a feeling that things could work out for the company, long term, because of an extensive patent portfolio, stable production process, and were primarily targeting very large non-CE customers that would need time to validate the technology for their own use and purposes, and if it some how depended on AAPL to fully prove out the technology ( which they are, carefully, and it has/is taken some time; and it has/is giving LMT credibility in the process) ...... And if you knew it would work out, long term, wouldn't you want to pick up more shares at a lower price if you were in a position to do it, and wouldn't you want other means of income if it came with it?
A question: When Steipp talks about increasing shareholder value, is he talking about all shareholders?
What's scary: Tony C mentioned that they would now have access to enough $ to fund operations for years.
It's scary because he didn't mention funding operations from revenue ( as if they didn't anticipate any or very much). Yikes.
It also sounded like their increase in revenues for the quarter were more along the lines of consulting projects ( vs. part sales).
And there probably won't be a heads up to investors beforehand.
So what's a likely scenario if they need to purchase/borrow?
1) pump up the stock so they have to sell fewer shares?
2) then dump the stock creating more .....
It probably won't be announced to the public before hand ( or does part of their "notification" involve filing an 8k ?? ).
If LQMT were to be acquired, wouldn't it take about 5 months after an announcement of intent?
No "crappy" (Jollyman's words) days for these guys now for at least 3 more years !!!
Actually, I think VPC does have some information at their website. It seems like they should have some other business besides LMT since they aren't an all LMT company.
Does anyone have a feel for how they (VPC) are doing, overall?
Do they have any major non-LMT based contracts that they cold have in progress?
AAPL, et al, probably look for everyone on the team to be clean on tech; just sayin'; especially when it comes to quality.
If they work out their issues (LQMT/VPC), sure hope that they will advertise (PR) their certifications, etc. so at least investors can get a better read on where they stand in terms of what they might be expected to do.
He's probably a nice guy, too....but .....
I don't know that much about BV, but he doesn't appear to have a high tech background.
It sounded to me like he has a lot of money and might have wanted to buy out LQMT at some point.
Whose not to trust if they clash on expertise?
Thanks for your reply. At that price range, even LQMT could afford to buy one!
Someone said on this board that Steipp was separating from his family. No way. On facebook they have one of the happiest looking families out there. I'm sure his success wasn't made alone!
If those machines cost $500m (????) a company would have have a really compelling reason to use LMT.
A issue is the lead time between concept to prototype to production with any new part, e.g. about 2 years.
That's a long time to get going so what ever develops over the next year into revenue would have to be something that has been in the works for awhile.
It sounds like they'll need the financing at some point.
I wonder why the board negotiated the golden parachutes if an acquisition/merger wasn't on a nearer term horizon ( than say 3 years).
Personally, I like Steipp's background, etc. I like to see him see the project through to fruition with nice payback for himself.
The theatre has been interesting because it is mostly left to the imagination, lol.
based on that writeup, it sounds like a three year window to scale and maybe Steipp, et al, might not be motivated to sell their shares before then.
But for the options that vest over 5 years at strike of .08, the execs need to keep the stock price up, etc. to make it worth their while.
Try stepping up PR.
I agree that article doesn't emphasize, hardly, what cold offset the potential decline; a reason that I believe that LQMT should be more proactive in advertising their developments.
That's pretty soon.
Maybe a short term trader gets a few pops between now and then.
If LQMT has increasing revenues coming in while they borrow to keep advancing things, it could be ok because they have to borrow $ to keep going.
If they don't generate increasing revenues over the three year period, stock price could drop, etc..
Even with small increases in revenue they might not offset this type of financing.
If they generate new revenues but don't issue press releases, etc., investors might not have enough information to make informed decisions, etc,...stock could drop.