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Takeda conf call BEFORE US market open tomorrow
Hi all--- fwiw Florida Trend is a very real magazine that takes themselves pretty seriously. I highly doubt they would cover anything non-vetted. I lived there and did business for decades.
Great CC for those that didn't hear it--- Laverne up and running single line in a few weeks... Tweaks take a month--- will be selling q3
Ok--- haven't posted in awhile I am LONG and 99 percent in the red.... With over 10k down... My fault and I learned about pennies the hard way. PLEASE do not listen to anyone on this board who says this is a real company doing something. I used to believe that and stayed in... But this is a complete fraud sham operation. Period. Sorry for your and my loss. I still hold because well.. Can't lose anymore. My only hope is that they pump it so I can get out but that isn't even happening anymore...so it will be a tax loss and a red account earned by this stock.
Mergers and Aqusitions. Very good sign imho
HEy IBH,
I am very familiar with a lot of holistic clinics in and out of US. There is a DR with a practice somewhere in GA that literally has an over 80% cure rate on Lyme and its within a year I believe. I dont have PM but if you would like info, post a message with your email, or i will do that.
Cheers
In the conference call Frederick stated we would get revenue numbers in may that " will make investors very pleased"
Wanted to make sure EVERYONE caught in the CC that they are very happy to release the numbers in May---and that investors will be "very pleased"
They dont say that based off what "might" come, they clearly have orders and funds coming in over 1 million for this quarter too!
Reminder 1Q was a "good turning point and place to start"
So if were going to be "VERY PLEASED" at the numbers--well you can do that math!!!
Also, expect another PR this week and more next week. They alluded to more news by EOW and next week.
Cheers! See you at .17 next week (good thoughts)
Thank you for your service!
Key words LONGS:
Defendants were preoccupied with their
suggestion that because Google might attempt to implement an alleged design around at some
future date, all briefing should be postponed.
COULD someone please post Lauras email address--I know some of you have it and I cant find it on the NEOM site---thank you
Pop-Risk-Hinch Anyone---
Why has no one started calling board memebers and ousted Laura as a CEO? She is fine as a salesperson...but what am I missing?
Id really like the answer here...companies (large ones at that) are signing and there is more revenie and we are in the trips...? What am I missing?
I am HAPPY to start calling and raising he!! bt first I would like to know if anything has been done...and if I am missing something obvious.
Honest answers appreciated
GFTA
There is still time. Do I think that will happen.. No... But there is still time. I suggest you call a patent attorney and ask very specific questions. If I was given misinformation then I apologize, but there are precedents.
Google---oops vringo them.
Do I believe that VRNG would not sell its ENTIRE portfolio and company for less than $25.... I absolutely do not.
Done my DD. called the tone on the CC correctly when most were whining. Done a lot of DD on the players in this company and their histories with patents and buyouts and even with MIT and VTECH and how that process works and what that usually means on a go forward basis.
If by chance I was given inaccurate information by multiple attorneys citing precedents that aren't applicable then that is what it is. But those odds aren't ones I would want to play in Vegas.
Cheers and Long and Longer
Fwiw again---- this is a real company---- seen their financials and been to Indiana plant.... Also it would be VERY illegal and usable if he was not being honest about his investment. I do not think he is that silly. He is trying to turn a struggling company around and in a hard economy for businesses
NOT a scam. Been to the plant in my previous work. Seen their financials and met employees in Indiana. Not a scam at all. Hate the stock right now very red but NOT a scam
This is really good for us right? I'm taking a beating this week in this stock
Does anyone have Laura Marriott email address? Also, do you know or have the CFO's number and name. I called the old one before, but think another call is in order.
Can anyone succinctly explain why this is down so much after the revenue numbers? I dont understand the YA repayment well enough to do so, and want to be armed when i call them or an attorney. At the very least, I am going to reach out the BOD and see what can be done. Un-freakingbelievable.
Many thanks
Great summation xlt--always thought out, informed and intelligent
Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
Lets hope this is a week of winnings!!! Thank you :)
Lol no worries --- and would be funnier if I wasn't still in red ;)
But we will be seeing GREEN very soon!!!!!
To all:
IBH has said a few things that did not come to pass however has always stated it was not 100 sure and that it was his opinion based on knowledge that may it may not be true.
Unless its an April fools joke, I doubt he would reference an email from Cliff, unless there was one.
Many fortunes to us all! We've been here a LONG time :)
Well..Im pretty good at reading tones....and my "impression" is the following:
They are not nervous and addressed in more detail than I thought the Google case. *I think perhaps, because the outcome is known--just my thought
They were VERY monotone--unlike ANY time they have spoken. And much more MEASURED *This suggests a decent amount of coaching--even on the non-litigation questions--every speaker was measured and with almost a different cadence and quality that before. That is not a coincidence.This to me suggests a) coaching b) serious tight lips with legal ears and SEC all around
Also, they could not have yelled "hey message board fuckos---stop badgering US and the court system with your lack of patience and utter stupidity with knowledge of timeframes of how lawsuits work"
SIDENOTE---On the YMB--freakng idiots giving out judges personal information---hmmm....that is not only moronic, it makes VRNG look ridiculous to have such low class unsavvy trash investors--freaking idiots---very horrified this has been happening.
I digress...the general tone was so completely measured that I believe there is substantial news in multiple areas in play that is not either finalized, or allowed to be released. There is no other possible reason I can come up with for the measured coaching.
They also sounded tired and not nervous. Take that for what you will, but "not nervous" is a very good and telling sign, in my opinion.
Is anyone else picking up the tonal quality difference from the last conference call?
To EVERYONE: What Cuban publicly stated and what he personally feels could be two very different things. He also invested heavily in a group of thieves.
VRINGO CANNOT, i repeat CANNOT discuss many things right now, BY LAW and it would create more issues down the road for the legally if they did (and possibly financially if they talk about new technology before they have granted patents).
SILENCE IS A BLESSING right now, they are being VERY CAREFUL with what they put out there and everyone should take a step back and be grateful that the company is being so careful.
The PPS sucks! Most of us are in the RED. That SUCKS. But we bet on a company in its infancy, with barely any revenue and with heavy risky litigation and the timing that comes from that.
Geez people quit whining about management. THEY ARE TRYING TO RUN A COMPANY< CREATE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND BUILD LONG TERM SHAREHOLDERVALUE>
Not spend their time placating people with fluffy info, possibly jeopardizing and showing their very good hand and most importanly they are running a business that has a lot of eyes on it. How you and I feel as traders has VERY LITTLE to do with the realities of day to day corporate business and what those priorities are and frankly, people who don't get that shouldn't be trading.
Id rather them focus on what they need to, to increase rev's and develop and win suits than keep us placated...one will increase long term value...one wont.
Long and Longer and Fortune to us all!
Hey guys we are all getting irritated at the wait, but you all are better than this---IBH is posting what he thinks is correct, no different than any of us who dont work at VRINGO.
We are all tired of waiting, but ganging up on people who never been rude or disrespectful and who are just trying to participate with the knowledge they have (or believe they have) is what this MB is about.
Were better than YMB
Cheers and Long and Longer! (and hopefully closer)
Just a reminder (ignore me if you have read this) this is a REAL COMPANY, i worked with them about 4 years back and have visited their Indiana location and seen their financials. I see a lot of questions about a plant being up and running--I will be happy to call company and get info directly from them and post, if anyone wants that. Just reply (i dont have PM) with what questions you want and Ill call in between trades today.
Cheers and heres hoping were all too busy watching GREEN to reply :)
thank you Kenny, DD helps us all!!!
Long on BION!!!!
I was referring to a different post about the share price Nd timeline of Bion being established. The other name has bio nitrogen in title and he might have accidentally googled the wrong company that was all.
Wasn't in reference to our hardee plant or ceo
I can't remember where it is but I remember seeing something similar too fwiw
There is another Bion urea producing company with Bion in the name, I think that's where the mix up is
Still here and staying. Dont place your bets justs cause other longs are nervous. Nothing has changed,its just taking a ridiculous amount of time. No news really is good news if youre long, if your ST or DT then this is like mud.
Rain is and has always had a bi-polar attitude with VRNG--so please for goodness sake dont place any faith there. No offense Rain, but you know its true (at least one of your personalities does)
Keep the faith Tom, or take some off the table and DT with it perhaps and jump back in on the run...that WILL happen..ETA..TBD.
Cheers!
Thank you Carter. Back when I worked within for a short time they were creating specialty armor/plastics for defense situations and other applications. I was surprised but I can tell you that even then , the materials and compositions were cutting edge and the best I there field... This was 3-4 years ago. Lol I thought it was sooner the. I remembered its already 2013. Oy!
Great post thank you! I have mentioned this numerous times but am doing it again for newbies. I know and have worked with this company and one of its subsidiaries. This is a REAL company with real employees and revenue. They also have strong ties to the US forces for specific products they do not advertise. I have close to half a million shares at a higher price... Go Cerp!
Wow....its depressing in here lately...and understandable. The stock didnt move, because people are disenchanted with waiting and moving to other plays. And, I dont know about any of you, but all of my portfolio was blood red today, except biotech---as were many traders today. Seven cent drop was really not that big of deal compared to what most stocks were.
People are burned out( lol or its just me :)
I know this will be worth the weight and believe in the long term amazing success this company will have. I just hope that the short term is great enough to take some profit soon!
Overflowing fortunes to us all!
.05 for almost a year--or whenever that day was it went backwards from .58---learned the term "falling knife" that day....lets zoooooom up!!!!
Did you guys see that volume spike for a second?
Again, do not know if this is what is going on here...I think JJ is probably a good man who has tried to be fair and honorable...as i believe most Judges are and people who fight for Justice....
However---it doesnt matter who sits at the bench/office sometimes--and it doesnt have to be about money or greed for that person---fear--intimidation---threatening to expose things that could hurt a family member---all of these tactics ARE used to change rulings/laws. And if this werent Google, with as shady and immoral as they are, I would probably we way less concerned. Again, it doesnt matter who is ruling, there is generally a way to coerce them. And Google, who is so criminal, is sitting at almost $800 per share---and its illegal/criminal wrongdoings, barely ever mentioned in last 3 years.
Regardless of Shoogle (shady google) I believe in VRNG and am long or strong, this is shaping up to be an amazing opportunity. Period.
Many Fortunes!
Hey Job and RQ---good to see you still here---lol been a long year for us! Im still holding too---however only averaged at .05 and .026 in different accounts---lol started at .38 so thats not so bad--any predictions on where we go today? Tomorrow?
Repost:
. I believe this will be double digits by year end. I believe Lang is working on a few things that will become a household name apart from any suits.... That will exponentially push the PPS. I do not know about the judge.... I believe most want to uphold the law to the highest order... However I have seen firsthand corruption and fear and dishonesty and pressure at the highest levels... And with a company so immune to morals and so tied to this administration, I would be a fool, imo, not to strongly consider the possibility... No matter who was at the bench.
I have seen my holdings go green and red so much it's been like nightmare before Christmas on a tilt a whirl, and I have sat there with a miserable " why did t I cash back out and go back in cause this is how this stock works and banked thousands today" many more times than I ever want to do again.
I spend hundreds of research hours, met and talked with James Altucher , and the first few months was on pins and needles with every docket. I have stepped back, and still kick myself from time to time.... But have learned alot about litigation plays and patience in general...
No way would I get out now due to the timing.... I will keep at least half vested for another 5 years at least and ride the waves with 1/4 once it gets above 8.... Which shouldn't be too much longer now.
So I've waited on cash, but not so bitter cause I know who and what I have invested in. The founders an vision and legal teams and business minds that are connected with this company are literally the best in the world In Their fields. Frankly, hate the waiting, wish I would have ridden it better, but to own at these levels... To know about Apple/MS/Goog and invest when they were in the beginning and have that prior knowledge of potential... Well it's a blessing. I know it's been a lot longer road and may still be, but look what has happened in less than this first year in business.
Bright and plentiful fortunes to us all!