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I never said that BIEL's patents had not expired
The speculation is obviously why BIEL did not renew their patents. The answer to that question is absolutely speculation with BIEL not making a statement.
Patent #8412328 expired on 5/10/2021 and the usual suspects are just now, over two years later, making it an issue.
KT Tape , DonJoy/Enovis, SAI, Amazon, Performance Health, Chemist-4-you, and others continue selling BIEL products.
Adcock Ingram did their retail launch for ActiPatch in April of 2023 so they don't seem too concerned.
A rechargeable ActiPatch still has an operational lifespan because a rechargeable battery has a lifespan. As BIEL did with the current use of the non-rechargeable battery, Trial 160 hour, KT Wave 250 hour, Smart Insole 360 hour, ActiPatch 720 hour, the same can be done with a rechargeable battery lifespan. The price of the rechargeable ActiPatch will reflect the number of hours of use the device will provide.
Well stated TP, why is no one exploring the other end of the patent issue speculation
<<<<< There are very few trustworthy folks on this board so therefore I’ll wait for the facts >>>>>
If BIEL has significant upgrades ready for ActiPatch they would need a new patent. The last patent maintenance fees were $1,800. Why pay that fee on the old patent if a new patent is needed for ActiPatch 2.0 ? Last year BIEL mentioned that they had a working prototype for a rechargeable ActiPatch and I would speculate, since it has been nearly 10 years since the last update to ActiPatch, that Dr. Koneru had more improvements ready to implement.
Another Poster that needs a BIEL History Lesson
<<<<<<<< Nothing you have posted in those 13 YEARS has ever come to fruition EITHER. >>>>>>>>
5 BIEL Successes off the top of my head:
* Reclassification of Shortwave Diathermy for All Other Uses, Henceforth To Be Known as Nonthermal Shortwave Therapy
A Rule by the Food and Drug Administration on 10/13/2015 - BIEL did several years of intensive FDA lobbying to get ActiPatch Reclassified from a Class 3 Medical Device to a Class 2, which opened the door to US Over the Counter sales.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2015/10/13/2015-25923/physical-medicine-devices-reclassification-of-shortwave-diathermy-for-all-other-uses-henceforth-to
* Approval from FDA pushes Frederick biotech company into commercial marketplace
Allen Etzler aetzler@newspost.com Mar 12, 2017 - It was a long battle, requiring hiring former FDA lawyers to represent BIEL's case, but BIEL secured Osteoarthritis and Plantar Fasciitis OTC indications from the FDA in 2017.
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/economy_and_business/approval-from-fda-pushes-frederick-biotech-company-into-commercial-marketplace/article_ec707134-5f68-519b-ad32-2829aaa43a72.html
* BioElectronics secures FDA approval for ActiPatch device to treat musculoskeletal pain
NS Medical Staff Writer 04 Feb 2020 - This Musculoskeletal Clearance opened the door to marketing ActiPatch as a pain reliever for every muscle, bone, joint, tendon and ligament in the body.
https://www.nsmedicaldevices.com/news/bioelectronics-actipatch-fda-approval-2/
* KT Tape Launches KT Recovery+ Wave
22 Feb, 2021, 10:34 ET - BIEL signs an OEM deal with KT Health to market the 'KT Recovery+ Wave'. BIEL is responsible for manufacturing the device, KT is responsible for marketing and sales. BIEL filled KT's 18 pallet order in 2000 and two orders in 2021 totaling 34 pallets of the KT Wave.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/kt-tape-launches-kt-recovery-wave-301232376.html
* Wearable device for chronic pain sufferers
19-05-2023 - Adcock Ingram started marketing ActiPatch on the African Continent in 2023. Adcock Ingram is one of the largest pharmaceutical/health care companies in Africa.
https://www.medicalacademic.co.za/pain-management/wearable-device-for-chronic-pain-sufferers/
The first time the Little Boy cried 'Wolf' the whole village ran to help him
ddls is the Little Boy who has cried 'Trading Halt Coming', 'Andy Told Me RS Coming', 'No Way BIEL Survives SEC', 'BK Coming', 'No Way FDA Grants BIEL Clearance', hundreds of times over the last 13 years. The ihub village now gives his posts the 'ignore' response they deserve.
I expect that you will be wrong every time you make a 'Sky is Falling' post
<<<<<<<<<<<<< I expect trading to be stopped anytime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And my expectation has been met every year for the last 13 years
He got married and his wife was pregnant, needed a salary that could support his family
<<<<<<<<<<<<< And why did Koneru leave BIEL? Because...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Congratulations to Dr. Koneru on his promotion to Director of Program Management at Viant
So, BIEL now has an 11 year relationship with the Viant Medical Director of Program Management who indicated that he was still available to consult with BIEL if they needed him.
And why did Viant hire and promote Dr. Koneru? Because they see a profitable future for Electromagnetic Neuromodulation Devices.
Thanks Hawk, Adcock Ingram continues to expand the availability of ActiPatch on the African Continent.
Good Grief, look at the thread
It started with 322055 and art2426 claiming that Patricia Whelan was still on the BOD and not knowing that Dr Staelin is the current COB and has been for the last 3 years.
I pointed out his errors, 322075.
On response to being called out on his BOD error art doubles down in 322107, "C'MON the CEO is on the BOD? That in itself is a JOKE and you know it!".
I pointed out that many billion dollar companies have a CEO that is either a BOD member or the COB, so it is not a "JOKE". When art complained that BIEL was not a billion dollar company, which was irrelevant to his initial claim, I showed many OTC companies operating the same way.
End of story. This thread was about correcting bad information about the BIEL BOD and evolved, via another false claim by art, into companies that allowed their CEO to be on the BOD were a "JOKE". I never stated an opinion on if 'CEO on BOD' was a good idea because it was not relevant. Many successful companies on the S&P, NASDAQ, NYSE operate with a 'CEO on BOD' structure as do many successful and many struggling companies on the OTC Markets. This proves my point, it is not a "JOKE", it is a widely adopted business structure.
If you bothered to read this thread it would show that another poster, like you lacking in the ability to do basic research, claimed that no legitimate companies had a CEO that was also on their BOD. I demonstrated that he was once again making shit up with a list of more than a dozen Billion Dollar, Very Legitimate, Companies that have a CEO who is also on the BOD and most of them had a CEO who is not just on the BOD but the Chairman of the Board.
Interesting that you should utter the word "dignity" after the BS claim that BIEL has less than 400 shareholders. This disinformation was started by ddls, the same source for the non-existent "Sales Track". This BS has been debunked in several posts over the last 5 years.
When computers entered the stock market it was no longer viable for actual stock certificates to be held by shareholders. Stock Brokers were designated as the 'Record Keepers' for how many shares each shareholder owned of a company. This change allowed the instant trading times we have today. "Less than 400" would describe the number of Stock Brokers, like Fidelity and Charles Schwab, there are that keep the records of the number of shares each shareholder owns.
srinsocal
Re: Gailm post# 321882
Friday, September 15, 2023 4:52:07 PM
Post# 321916
Once again failure to do DD on BIEL's History
<<<<<<<<<<<< This stock is held by LESS THAN 400 people >>>>>>>>>>>>
The last time BIEL was required to declare the number of shareholders was in its 2009 10k, their last year of being SEC fully reporting.
On page 16 of the 2009 10k filing BIEL reported 16,011 shareholders and that was with 1.47 billion shares .
"Holders"
"As of December 31, 2009, the Company had 16,011 holders of record of its common stock."
That is one Opinion, I'll go with the Opinions Warren Buffett, James Dimon, and Michael Dell who seem to have done just fine with the 'CEO on the BOD' model:
Company ................ Executive ................. Title .......................... Since
Adobe Systems Shantanu Narayen Chairman, president and CEO[3] 2007
American Express Stephen Squeri Chairman and CEO[9] 2018
Anthem Joseph R. Swedish Chairman, president and CEO[10] 2013
Bank of America Brian Moynihan Chairman and CEO[17] 2009
Berkshire Hathaway Warren Buffett Chairman and CEO 1970
Boeing Dave Calhoun Chairman, president and CEO[24] 2020
Coca-Cola James Quincey Chairman and CEO[34] 2008
Dell Michael Dell Chairman and CEO[38] 1984
ExxonMobil Darren Woods Chairman and CEO[46] 2017
FedEx Frederick W. Smith Chairman and CEO[49] 1971
General Dynamics Phebe Novakovic Chairman and CEO[53] 2014
General Electric H. Lawrence Culp Jr. Chairman and CEO 2018
General Motors Mary T. Barra Chairman and CEO[54] 2014
JP Morgan Chase James Dimon Chairman and CEO[71] 2004
McDonald's Chris Kempczinski President and CEO[78] 2019
Morgan Stanley James P. Gorman Chairman and CEO[84] 2010
Nike Mark Parker Chairman and CEO[90] 2006
Pfizer Albert Bourla Chairman and CEO[98] 2019
Prudential Financial John Strangfeld Chairman and CEO[101] 2008
Samsung Oh-Hyun Kwon Chairman and CEO[111] 2012
Target Corporation Brian Cornell Chairman and CEO[127] 2014
Verizon Communications Hans Vestberg Chairman and CEO[142] 2018
A Reverse Split will not solve anyone's problems unless it is accompanied by a positive story and profitability.
<<<<<<<<<< reverse split would solve the problems of the Whelans and Staelin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No one is going to be interested in buying billions of shares unless BIEL starts selling product and making money.
BIEL is AW's Legacy and KW is as interested in making BIEL a successful company as she is in getting her loans repaid.
The 'Yeah But' excuse should have been fact checked before posting
<<<<<<< Let's cite examples from Fortune 500 companies that make BILLIONS >>>>>>
Twenty OTC companies are listed below, random list, 10 companies above BIEL and 10 Below BIEL on the FINRA 9/20/2023 RegSHO list.
Ten of the companies have a CEO that is also on the Board of Directors, 5 being the COB. (Green)
Five did not have a BOD. (Black)
Of the 5 that had a CEO who was not on the BOD 4 were based in foreign countries. (Red)
Conclusion, OTC companies having a CEO who is also on the company's 'Board of Directors' is very common and no indication of nefarious activity.
BICEY - No listing of any officers (France)
BHSIF - Graeme O'Neill CEO, COB
BHLL - Sam Ash President, CEO, BOD
BHKLY - He Guangbei CEO, BOD (Hong Kong)
BGAVF - Joseph A. Kizis CEO, BOD
BFYW - Ian James CEO, COB
BFFAF - No BOD members
BFCH - CEO only
BEWFF - Owen Moore CEO, BOD
BESIY - CEO only (Netherlands)
BIEL
BIOAF - Deborah Rathjen CEO, President, COB
BIOF - Benjamin Slager CEO, President, BOD
BIOGY - No BOD members (Sweden)
BIOIF - CEO only (Canada)
BIOYF - Rene C. Goehrum President, CEO, COB
BIRDF - CEO only (Canada)
BIREF - No BOD members
BITW - No BOD members
BIXT - David Platt CEO, COB
BJCHY - CEO only (China)
More Bad Information from our 'BIEL expert'
<<<<<<<<<<<< C'MON the CEO is on the BOD? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Many prominent companies, including Berkshire Hathaway, Boeing and Pfizer, have their CEO on their BOD, usually as COB, and they are functioning just fine:
Company ................ Executive ................. Title .......................... Since
Adobe Systems Shantanu Narayen Chairman, president and CEO[3] 2007
American Express Stephen Squeri Chairman and CEO[9] 2018
Anthem Joseph R. Swedish Chairman, president and CEO[10] 2013
Bank of America Brian Moynihan Chairman and CEO[17] 2009
Berkshire Hathaway Warren Buffett Chairman and CEO 1970
Boeing Dave Calhoun Chairman, president and CEO[24] 2020
Coca-Cola James Quincey Chairman and CEO[34] 2008
Dell Michael Dell Chairman and CEO[38] 1984
ExxonMobil Darren Woods Chairman and CEO[46] 2017
FedEx Frederick W. Smith Chairman and CEO[49] 1971
General Dynamics Phebe Novakovic Chairman and CEO[53] 2014
General Electric H. Lawrence Culp Jr. Chairman and CEO 2018
General Motors Mary T. Barra Chairman and CEO[54] 2014
JP Morgan Chase James Dimon Chairman and CEO[71] 2004
McDonald's Chris Kempczinski President and CEO[78] 2019
Morgan Stanley James P. Gorman Chairman and CEO[84] 2010
Nike Mark Parker Chairman and CEO[90] 2006
Pfizer Albert Bourla Chairman and CEO[98] 2019
Prudential Financial John Strangfeld Chairman and CEO[101] 2008
Samsung Oh-Hyun Kwon Chairman and CEO[111] 2012
Target Corporation Brian Cornell Chairman and CEO[127] 2014
Verizon Communications Hans Vestberg Chairman and CEO[142] 2018
Good Grief, another 'BIEL expert' who does not even know who is on the BOD
Didn't even know that Dr. Richard Staelin has been the 'Chairman of the Board' since June 2020. The guy who signs the 'Letter from the Chairman' updates,
"Richard Staelin, Ph.D.
Chairman of the Board"
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/08/10/2075545/0/en/BioElectronics-Chairman-Outlines-New-Direction-for-Company.html
https://www.bielcorp.com/richard-staelin-ph-d-rejoins-the-board-of-bioelectronics-corporation/
Once again failure to do DD on BIEL's History
<<<<<<<<<<<< This stock is held by LESS THAN 400 people >>>>>>>>>>>>
The last time BIEL was required to declare the number of shareholders was in its 2009 10k, their last year of being SEC fully reporting.
On page 16 of the 2009 10k filing BIEL reported 16,011 shareholders and that was with 1.47 billion shares .
"Holders
As of December 31, 2009, the Company had 16,011 holders of record of its common stock."
Nothing in my post mentioned BIEL's 33 percent SP gain today, but thanks for reminding everyone
My post was all about learning from history. BIEL has a history of bouncing back from the triple zeros.
ddls has a 13 year history of being Wrong about BIEL being "finished".
Another BIEL "expert" with Selective Memory
<<<<<<<<<<<<< afraid to admit BioElectronics is finished >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
BIEL has dipped into the .0003s and even .0002s on several occasions in the past.
Each time ddls shouted "BIEL is Finished", and each time he was Wrong.
In January and February 2014 BIEL traded in the .0002s and .0003s. By the end of February 2014 BIEL hit a SP High of .0084 .
In September 2015 BIEL dipped into the .0003s. By mid October BIEL had hit an Intra Day High of .0025 .
In November and December of 2016 and January 2017 BIEL was trading in the .0002s and .0003s. On 2/10/2017 BIEL hit a High of .003 .
LOL, That is an Instant Classic
<<<<<<<< This dead company is not worth the time it took for you to type all that BS >>>>>>>>>
Basher attacking Basher for being too optimistic about BIEL.
Look in the mirror dude, 13 years of your life trying, and failing each year, to destroy BIEL.
Must have missed a few chapters in BIEL's History
<<<<<<<<<<<<< not ONE deal ever came to fruition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Being in over 2,000 Boots and Lloyds stores in the UK produced the following "Fruit":
2013 - $665k Revenue (reference year before UK rollout)
2014 - $1.289 Million Revenue
2015 - $2.339 Million Revenue
2016 - $2.089 Million Revenue
2017 - $1.763 Million Revenue
Your powers of perception are far below par
As are your predictions of BIEL's demise.
Any Lender could demand repayment when their 2 year Loan matures per the loan terms.
Does anyone on this board think that those who have Tens or Hundreds of thousands of dollars in Loans do not have access to more details on BIEL than us shareholders?
Not a "Red Flag", current investors willing to extend loans for another 2 years shows a positive sentiment on BIEL's future
That is "over $5,000,000" of confidence that BIEL will become profitable.
<<<<<<<<<<<< I don't understand how some do not see this as a serious RED FLAG >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Only one new convertible loan issued in 2022 for just $20k. The other $585k in loans issued for 2022 were non-convertible.
Just today we had one that will be a Classic Twister,
" Use it for 7 days and if you aren't satisfied, you can return it. BUT you must return it UNOPENED."
Trying to make board readers believe that it was impossible to get your money back from BIEL's '30 Day Money Back Guarantee' .
A couple of days ago another, "Rick Staelin is the one that proclaimed the imminent SYNERGY deal", trying to make board readers believe that Dr. Staelin promoted the Synergy deal when he did no such thing.
3 days ago, trying to make board readers believe that a quote from 2022, "Adcock Ingram & STADA have not started sales yet", was current information.
Says the guy who made up Fake 'Sales Track' to try and "Con Investors"
<<<<<<<< you're still here trying to con investors >>>>>>>>>
14 years trying to destroy BIEL on a message board, a failure every year. That is quite the record.
Gosh professor, that is a Unsolvable Delima unless you find a 7 year old to consult with
Two separate devices in separate boxes, why not just open just one, the 7 day device, leaving the 720 hour device unopened and available for return under the terms of the offer.
"Use the 7 day trial ActiPatch first and it you aren't satisfied with your pain relief after 7 days, you can return the ActiPatch 720 for refund of $35.95"
" *** Returns must be received within 30 days of the original purchase date *** "
" *** Returned product must be unopened and undamaged *** "
It looks like the poster who questioned the composition of your 'gray matter' was correct.
https://actipatch.com/
Good Grief, Read the Offer, Two devices for the $35.95 price, a 7 Day device to try out, a 720 hour device to return if not happy with the results from using the 7 day device.
<<<<<<<< How on this earth, do you use it for 7 days without opening the package. >>>>>>>>>
https://actipatch.com/
Thanks GG, NASA explored a wide range of options for Pain Relief on Exploration Class Spaceflight Missions
NASA looked at numerous types of Pain Relievers that could be suitable for missions that would be years in duration. The Non-Invasive ones are listed below:
Cortical Electrical Stimulation
Photobiomodulation (Laser, LED)
Pulsed Shortwave Therapy (PSWT)
Repetitive Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (rTMS
Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS)
Transdermal Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS)
Ultrasound
After all of this research the report had just two recommendations.
5.3 Conclusions
The information obtained in the execution of this review effort leads to 2 recommendations for
forward work:
1. Tie into DoD and NIH research funding efforts to improve pain treatment: the NIH has a
federal partners workgroup for their HEAL Initiative that could conceivably be joined by
NASA, and the DoD CPMRP’s initial solicitation only recently completed so that program is
young and potentially synergies could be identified with NASA.
2. Obtain an ActiPatch device for evaluation and determine whether it could be beneficial and
adapted to spaceflight use.
One of the limitations listed for the use of ActiPatch was the 720 hour life of the device. In the 8/25/2022 conference call it was mentioned that BIEL had developed a working prototype of a rechargeable ActiPatch.
Thanks Hawk, the Regenesis Reprieve is already on the Dept of Veterans Federal Supply Schedule
$5,000 to $9,950 per unit confirms the extreme value of RecoveryRx . The Reprieve is a Prescription Only device.
Category SIN Part No. Product Name and Description Price Reprieve by Regenesis™
A-72 421-2000-01 Purchase (Reprieve – One Treatment Applicator Pad) $9,500.00
A-72 421-2000-02 Purchase (Reprieve Duo – Two Treatment Applicator Pads) $9,950.00
A-72 421-2000-61 Compliance and Compatibility Assessment (CCA) (Reprieve
60 – One Treatment Applicator Pad) $5,000.00
A-72 421-2000-62 Compliance and Compatibility Assessment (CCA) (Reprieve
60 – Two Treatment Applicator Pads) $5,500.00
https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/ref_text/V797D40230/0Y98HE.3TZLC2_V797D-40230_CONTRACTUPDATE2023.PDF
The Reprieve's main therapy is derived from continuous radio frequency energy at 27.12 MHz (sound familiar) that heats tissue. There is the option to switch to a pulsing 27.12 MHz signal , Regenesis does not make any claims regarding operating in the pulsing mode.
He tried that, "don't follow it", lasted 6 days and then, like many addictions, he couldn't get the monkey off his back.
<<<<<<<< Consider that my parting shot. 7/19/2023 >>>>>>>>>
The point of your post was that Dr. Staelin is an unreliable source of information since he promoted the Synergy deal and it is not producing any sales.
So, your reason for giving no credibility to Dr. Staelins statement this week, "In addition we have been actively pursuing the establishment of a number of new international distributor agreements.", was total misinformation.
A lot easier to just say you made a mistake, Dr. Staelin did not promote Synergy, than trying to justify your error.
8/22 was not mentioned, The conference call that had Synergy info was on 8/25/2022
As I suspected, nothing to confirm your claim that "Rick Staelin is the one that proclaimed the imminent SYNERGY deal", because it is wrong.
Good Grief, the 'Adcock Ingram & STADA have not started sales yet' was a quote from KN at the 8/25/2022 conference call. There have been numerous posts about the Rollout of ActiPatch in South Africa by Adcock Ingram starting in April 2023 and earlier documentation of Adcock Ingram attending trade fairs with an ActiPatch booth.
https://actipatch.co.za/
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/garth-maart-1b373819_adcock-ingram-otc-is-excited-to-announce-activity-7049657782400131072-azUR/
https://www.medicalacademic.co.za/pain-management/wearable-device-for-chronic-pain-sufferers/
That's Not What I Recall
<<<<<<<<< Rick Staelin is the one that proclaimed the imminent SYNERGY deal >>>>>>>>>>>>
KN officiated the conference call that announced the Synergy deal and KW chimed in a couple of times, RS speaking about the Synergy Deal was not in my notes.
8/25/2022 CC Notes:
* BIEL's goal is no further dilution
* Adcock Ingram & STADA have not started sales yet
* OEM is still BIEL's main business model
* Revenue fuels R&D
* There is a working prototype for a rechargeable device, will need a new 510k
* Change coming in January for reimbursement
* OEMs are reporting good efficacy with their products
* Don Joy changing name to Enovis
* KT Health getting a new CEO
* 7 employees currently at BIEL
* UCSD Phantom Limb Study shows two thirds of patients with significant pain relief
* Extra Strength RecoveryRx has an oblong shaper antenna, hoping no new 510k will be needed
* Synergy agreement calls for 975,000 RecoveryRx units in the first 18 months
* Regulatory clearance is needed in 7 of the 25 countries involved before sales will begin, BIEL is working with Synergy to get the clearances
* KN said that he hoped to have the clearances in 3 week but we are dealing with 7 different countries
In what alternative universe are BIEL's "OS reached at $25 billion" ?
Incase you have not noticed the cost of borrowing money increases with risk that you won't be able to pay it back.
Before the Fed started raising rates 2 percent car loans were available to those with a good credit score and stable job history. If your credit score was in the 300s and you started a minimum wage job 3 months ago you would be paying 12% interest rate or higher if you could find someone willing to lend to you.
Those that loaned money to BIEL faced a real risk that they would never get their loans repaid so they received that 8% interest rate and the discounted conversion to shares rate.
Thanks Hawk, at 35 BPS this must be the 720 hour Wave as UK Amazon has the 250 hour Wave available for 19 BPS.
Let's Look Under the Hood of Today's Trading
Buys = 4,870,812 shares
Sells = 3,089403 shares
Shorts = 4,820,812
The MMs were the only ones Selling at .0003 Today.
Date... Symbol .. Short vol.. Total vol
20230823 | BIEL | 4820812 | 7960715
I Think it's a 3 way Split TP
The Cry Babies hold a good percentage followed by the Flippers who post positively when they want to Sell and Negatively when they want to Buy. The Losers are pitiful souls who get off on arguing and causing discord or the couple that feel AW screwed them and want to get revenge even though he has been gone since 2019.
As a side note, today only 1.2 million shares, of the 7.7 million share Total Volume, were sold by actual shareholders, the other 6.58 million shares were MMs shorting. And yes shorting does harm the SP even if the short is covered the next day.
20230821|BIEL|6589100|0|7797600
Those that feel this was a 2022 document must not remember the Q3/Q4 2022 Sales numbers
This order is worth over $100k USD, so it is not possible that it shipped in Q3 2022 which had Sales of $48k. Same thing goes if you want to speculate that it did not ship until Q4 2022 as that Quarter had $55k in Sales.
He is the 'Mouth Piece' for the group that has been trying to take control of BIEL for the last 4+ years. He replaces JimmyZ who understandably bowed out after receiving 629 million shares in a Loan Conversion. Y'all have to remember that sad period, pictures of Train Recks, KW represented as an Obese Woman Eating Pastries, pictures of Sinking Ships, ect., ect., demands for KW to surrender the rights to 17 billion shares so that 'The Group' could enact their hostile takeover, endlessly.
OMG, I Am Crushed, and Here I Thought We Were BFF
From 'Soft Basher' who aspired to avoid discussing people,
"Great minds discuss ideas
average minds discuss events
small minds discuss people"
To Full On Cut-Throat Stockdarockk Tactics.
Quite the evolution, must be very proud of yourself.