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Yes,agree.I was just making note that these sorbent booms have a use spanning a long,long time AFTER any oil first reaches shore(and certainly before).Also,the oils are not only in the form of hard tar balls,but what has been reported is that ALL viscocities are washing ashore.The tar balls are the most visible and easy to retrieve but the lighter viscocities,sheens,etc are the most insidious.as they are not easily visible(if at all),are suspended at all levels of the water's depths and thus,are hardest to detect and contain(especially with containment booms).Sorbent booms strung along shore along with sorbent materials applied to the already contaminated sands and areas seems to be a no-brainer "killer app" for Mop's booms and loose sorbent(or anyone else's similarly safe and effective sorbent booms and loose sorbents(if there are any others out there,that is!
If I had a business near shore there,I'd deploy containment boom at sea,sorbent boom at shoreline(to intercept,absorb and contain the incoming oils).....and deploy loose sorbent to all oil-affected land locations(or land-sea boundaries wfere the oil has landed).
Deej
"Again, boom is useless when oil has already reached the shore."
Oil reaching shore is not an event that occurs in one instant,but rather occurs over an extended period of time.Absorbent booms placed at shore will only do good at any and all of the time oil is continuing to come ashore.No opinion.Fact.
Deej
Yeah.56 years of hand to hand combat on Earth!
Funny.........I thought that quote I posted was part of the constitution!!!
Thanx for the enlightening post!
Still......what more inspiring words can be uttered(except maybe,"Mop has been funded and shipped it's first orders"
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/gettysburg.htm
deej
Thanks,Blade! Great post.Mop is getting known as a player.....
D
That's sooo cool!
And it's absurd to even think that they could get into hot water with ANYONE for protecting their lives and environment..........especially if no one has come with enough response to make a difference.
"Of the people, by the people, for the people".......... now where did I here that?
Deej
Thanx for the post, finishgreen!!!
RJ
I think the govt IS " taking over" BP by keeping them accountable and the foot on BP's neck.
The govt can't work the well technicals,but it certainly control BP by making sure they cross the T's and dot the I's.Remember that this spill is Obama's big test in the eyes of many. No,I'm sure BP and their pocketbook will be shepherded rightly by Obama.It's proven so ...so far.
D
No BK for BP at all. I read all about it yesterday and it's just speculation,and not BP,talking. They have tons of reserves and they're worth more alive than dead.
Google it,read it and you'll see. Education talks,bs walks.
D
I guess we'll see,won't we....since neither you nor I "know".
d
rj.....agree on all counts.Yeah, that would be incredible to get Mop gear standard issue on all platforms and wells in general.IMO,the only way that will happen is if they actually do gear up facilities to accommodate the BP orders.If they get funding for this,then it's a start onto better things,IMO.THIS is Mop's moment.If they come up to the calling,they are in for the big time.If they fail to perform,then(IMO) they have lost their best opportunity to get "on the map".I certainly hope they are taking this seriously.The purchase orders are as good as money in the hands of a banker or other funding source.Before the orders came,management had some form of excuse for not putting on a showing.Now,what excuses could there be now? Only a fool would not fund MOP's needs to fill their orders.And EVERYONE is looking for orders for ANYTHING these days!!!!!!
jmo,
deej
Ditto...
d
I can see your point,gonz, but your argument is good for the general valuation of a stock and not for extraordinary moments inna stocks history like this.For instance,the valuation measure that you used never can be used when a stock,especially a pinkie, makes a big "intrinsic value" leap. For instance,TSTC(tech stock) traded around 8 bucks. Then,big news hit on their new proprietary whatever.......and for the next month, it ran up to a 3-bagger. And that was not a pinkie,which would do way better. Palm did the same when I bought into them for 3 bucks. I think they peaked at 18 bucks. The point is that there was NO difference in the company's metric other than a breakthrough,and followup re-valuation(intrinsically). It settles down of course, but that moment is where Mop is in at this moment: intrinsic value re-assessment.
Zillions of examples, but the point is there and a reality.
Jmo
deej
Thanx, RJ! Yer a scholar and a gentleman!
deej
Rj
Could you be more specific on that " morbidity"?!
A link or lead or.....,
Tia
d
Ssta? Who's that?
Btw,no premium sub here,so can only reply here
Wow! RJ......I had no idea you(or anyone here) knew Charlie personally!!!
That's as good as gold to me as far as a reference! This whole time I've been only trying to validate(to my satisfaction) the intention and integrity of management,as the company is only as good as that.With your personal friendship and thumbs-up on
the guy......let's just say that THAT bit of info is second in importance only to the actual order procurements themselves! Thanks for disclosing that.
Maybe I can sleep better now!!
Deej
Man,rj!
That's an incredibly specific "maybe"! Do you have background on any of that personal stuff that you mentioned.........or just "ruminating"? No criticism at all,friend.........just never have come across such in-depth, specific and personal(data) "guess"!
TIA
deej
Thanks for your reply,imperative! Very simple and straight-forward. I've been mulling over it and I've come to the same conclusion:an entrepeneur,in a sleepy little town looking to hit it big, like us all.And,a bit more heart than business-savvy. Then,suddenly,they find themselves in the middle of the biggest thing they've even dreamed about.......... and they are playing catch-up,trying to get up to speed:from "puttin'-around-Bath" speed......to 90 mph! That's my take. Nothing dark.Just used to a Bath-based pace and existence.
One thing for sure...... they know this is their one big chance!
I doubt they wanna blow it! Hell,they'll probably recruit the whole town,if they need to!
Hippies strikin' the lottery.......
Jmho
deej
Yeah,you're right.
Don't know what to think about it all.....
I'm just hoping this opportunity will supercede all
previous,as this seems to far outweigh(the possibility of success) any other "previous venture attempts" they may have tried.After all,it all comes down to the cashola. If he can rescue a future museum overnight with his own money,he has " resources"......or, at least,resourcefulness!
Jmo
d
thoughts?
Imperative...
Re: "Either way, proving the BP news is legit and that financing falls into place, this will all be the past...but damn, it really is strange to see!"
That was a spooky post you responded to,huh? A string of previous businesses before the site was occupied perhaps?
Cryptically yours,
deej
420?
Is that like a 144,only better?
deej
Ditto on the thanx,rj!Great back and forth. Very educational and the VERY reason I read these boards and look for threads and posts like this!!
You da man!
D
(now,I'm off to DD "144s", to confirm your posts
deej
I'm hoping yer right on that.I would think that dilutive financing would take more time than other means.I'm not savvy on this side of the deal,so I wouldn't know,but I woulde say that with purchase orders,financing would be a snap thru a bank.Factors charge an arm and a leg,but that's another way of financing.
The wait is on!
Thanx for the response,btw!
deej
In the news:
(looks like we're not the only one's waiting!)
http://www.hotstocked.com/article/2242/mop-environmental-sltns-pink-mopn-holding-gains.html
Let's hope the financing get's straightened out and operations get humming,filling those orders!IMO,if they can't,then MOP can find a subcontracting outfit who can manufacture the goods!
deej
I've watched this board a lot and don't feel the discussion on dilution has been talked through to the end. If you do,then please give the summary or point it out where one can find it. This is a dynamic board with buyers coming in all the time. They'll be asking those questions and can at least be directed to where answers can be found. By censoring talk other than bashings, it sets up the board for LESS DD and not more.
Yeah, it's wearying to repeat stuff,but then..... don't respond if you don't want to!
Personally,I'd RATHER never see talk of anything that could be a possible negative strike onma stock's growth,but that's just coloring reality,and setting one's self up for a bad,bad fall.
If something IS negative,I'd rather know sooner than later.
D
Imperative
Censoring talk of dilution just because you don't like the thought of it is NOT smart. That is, if you want balanced and grounded talk here. No opinion on that. It's a FACT!
I hate the thought of the possibility of dilution,but to not discuss it to the point of summary is just sticking one's head in the sand,hoping for the best. Closing yer eyes won't stop a train IF it really is on it's way. I,personally,would rather find out(or,at least,make a judgement based on intelligent discourse rather than fear.)
deej
Yeah,he lives and he's a 56 year old electrical contractor in California!
Reality strikes again!
deej
Nicely put,Allie
d
Nemo
Thanks for weighing in!
I would think that the killer app for absorbent booms would be as a backup line behind(and onshore) of the containment booms! The containment booms seem to be for course adjustment and a fine-tuning capture of rogue oils escaping the containment booms would be caught and absorbed by the absorbent booms.
And those absorbent booms would be a line of capture and absorbancy along shore,something the containments aren't designed to do.
Thoughts?
Deej
Let's just hope mgmt doesn't mess with the float(dilution)!
I'm hoping they raise money other ways.It would seem to be faster(raising funds) not to touch the common?
Thoughts?
Tia,
d
Thx,Feanor
Funny you call me elf.When I was in the Army,my two best friends and I were totally into the Hobbit and acquired the names of Bilbo,Merry(Merriadoc Brandybuck) and me,Frodo.
No elves, though! Just ordinary, run of the mill Hobbits.
Cheers....
Deej
Thanx,rj! Stoked to be back!
I'm not worried about Mop's lack of dinero.Orders......make the money. They can get a letter of credit,factor funding,etc,etc. A no-brainer if you have BP and the govt backing the bill!
The hard part has already been done,IMO: getting the orders and the uncertainty before it manifested!!!!
That took me down! I don't have the resources for that level of risk!
Now.....the risk is cut bigtime. Now,it's just the delivery.And,the "carrot" for that is $$$$$$$$!!!
Deej
Back in at a quarter.Feel a LOT better now that Mop has orders.These pinkies,you never know til you know.........and,now I know!
Cheers to all,
deej
CONGRATS TO ALL!!!!!!
I didn't have the spare $$ or the huevos to stay in......and now I'm slavering over Mop like Pavlov's dog!!!!
Well,at least I'm all in on Sprint!!!
again,good luck and congrats!!!!
deej
Just one question: why would anyone think the pps has "stabilized" here in the mid-30's....as you say......any more than the pps "stabilizing" in the mid-50's,where it was for a lot longer?
In other words,how long is your "stabilization" projection for and why?
And,what is to keep the pps from moving down to the level at which Disney bought in(25 cents)?
IMO,that would be a reasonable spot to stabilize at instead of the mid-30's,where there is NO talk of any substantial,material metric to support it?!?
Just an honest and non-reactive question.
Any answers of like kind?
TIA,
deej
Today:
"The White House said Sunday that it expects the spill to grow by 20 percent after BP gets started with its latest effort to contain the spill, beginning Monday or Tuesday. The White House also said it is tripling its environmental cleanup crew."
deej
Anyone have a current list of BP's "resources"? (the list that Mop was put on...)
Tia,
deej
IMO,one key "in" for Mop is this quote from that article: "“Everything goes through BP,” Mr Hearon says. “But eventually they’re [the locals] are going to realise it’s up to them to save their marshes.’’
The other key is the fact that BP has Mop already registered as a "resource". All they have to do is release their resources on a greater scale,and with the top kill dead and hurricane season at hand,they're probably gonna put all resources on the matter soon.
Jmo,
deej
Great article,snapper!
Here's a copy and paste of the article:
"Entrepreneurs aim to cash in on crisis
By Sheila McNulty in Venice
Published: May 30 2010 23:43 | Last updated: May 30 2010 23:43
On the road in to Venice, Louisiana, sits a flatbed truck stacked with orange vinyl boom marked with Chinese characters.
On a paper sign on its side is a phone number to call, for anyone wanting to rent the boom for shoreline protection against the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
EDITOR’S CHOICE
In depth: BP oil spill - May-30
Obama aide says oil spill could last months - May-30
BP opts for containment to tackle crisis - May-30
Political friendships are tested in Louisiana - May-30
BP abandons ‘top kill’ efforts on oil spill - May-30
Energy Source: Live updates on ‘top kill’ - May-30
The owners, Lorne and Scott, from Graham, Texas, do not want to disclose their full names.
When police stop to question them, they admit they do not have a licence to sell boom on the side of the road. The third or fourth day into the crisis, the men got some people on the ground in China to find factories and negotiate supplies.
They now have 55,000 feet, and with large parts of the coastline still unprotected, expect it will be of use in the weeks and months ahead. More is on the way.
“We saw...that we were going to run out of boom here,’’ Scott says.
But getting their merchandise into the right hands has proved difficult, as it has for all the other entrepreneurs who see opportunity in the leak in the Gulf of Mexico.
“I’m trying to get someone to look at my product,’’ says Mark Hearon of MOP Environmental Solutions, maker of a biodegradable mixture that he pulls out in handfuls from a sack in the car park behind the Crystal Cove marina.
Mr Hearon has driven in from Jackson, Mississippi, and is doing demonstrations in a plastic tub filled with water. Sweat is dripping off him in the sweltering heat as he pours oil into the tub, sprinkles the green chunks of his product on top, and then pulls out all the oil-laden absorbent with a net. The water is clean.
He squeezes the oil out of his product back into his measuring cup, showing that it can be saved.
“America’s oil is precious, why not try to reclaim it,’’ Mr Hearon says.
On the other side of the wall is Steve Wenzel of Green Life Technology, who has come in from Alabama with three jars filled with varying shades of gunk.
The only ones interested seem to be the media, and he dutifully gives his spiel over and over in hopes the word of his environmentally friendly dispersant will find its way to the powers that be.
The product is not harmful to marine or wildlife, he says.
BP says it had received tens of thousands of ideas and considers them all. But the little guys believe they are being passed over.
“We’re up against the same thing as the other little guys who can’t get through,’’ Mr Wenzel says.
Late in the day P.J. Hahn, in charge of coastal management for the Plaquemines Parish county that includes Venice, stops to take their handouts.
“I bet if I gave everybody a chance and assigned them each a mile of the oil spill, this place would probably be cleaned up overnight,’’ Mr Hahn said. But that is not his decision to make.
“Everything goes through BP,” Mr Hearon says. “But eventually they’re [the locals] are going to realise it’s up to them to save their marshes.’’
And so the demonstrations continue.
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A legit and good point of view.Smart.I wish I had the capital to stay in or I would have.I'm all in on S,and when/if it winds down,I'll probably get back in....as the top kill didn't work,hurricane season is on us and the scene just got WAYuglier because of these issues.Everyone is gonna hafta be pulling on this problem....and as long as Mop "isn't" illegitimate,it "is" legitimate til proven otherwise(and I'll have my ears to the ground for anything there!).These dang "non-reporters" are bad that way!( guilty until proven innocent,in my mind)!
I'm glad I'm not the only cautious one here,rj!
We're not livin' in never-neverland,after all!
But,all Mop needs is to be called upon in any way to help in supplying product.Then,it's a bright start for all here and Mop!
Cheers to all,
deej
Hey,homeys....I pulled out just now.Need the bucks for other things.Good luck with it all.Still a chance for another pop,I s'pose,but too risky for me to continue.
Appreciated everyone's pulling together on this play.Chuckie and Wayne should be grateful for the backing that's coming from this board.IMO,still a chance that the product gets used since the cleanup is just beginning,but I need my $ and I think I've given Mop enough of my time AND money!
Hasta la vista,babies!
Deej out