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This is just starting to get interesting. Im going to go get some popcorn.
a heart beat? OMG!
Nice job on the stickies! Things are getting exciting! Go pdgt!
sad so sad
Todays form 't' ah trade: buy @ 1,267,500 .... thats a first!
From a consumer standpoint I think the RadSafe is much more appealing then the K8. While both units are considerably small in size and probably perform similar functions, the RadSafe unit is a little larger and has a nicer more professional look to it. It is easier to read and understand. The indicator on the RadSafe is much more clearly labeled and the stepped led indicators that change colors from green to yellow to red is an obvious universally understood set of indicators that signal the user very clearly that there is or is not radiation.
In my opinion the K8 unit 'looks' cheap.
Haha nice! I still don't think this stock is on very many investor's radar screens. Once this gets moving north and maintains positive gains it is going to attract a lot of attention. Its really not a matter of 'if' this will go up its a matter of 'when'. Real soon IMO. This month and next are going to be very exciting once news hits.
I think theres a good chance well see something meaty in terms of a PR this week and next. I like the consistant pr's it tells me that even though the company isn't 100% transparent, that at least they are continually making an effort to become more transparent. Even though many of the PR's are described as "fluff pr's..." I much rather be invested in a company like this that actually has a mode of communication with its operation then one who does not. The rewards far outweigh the risk on this one imo. I will be adding to my position soon. I Look forward towards a successful venture with this company.
Just remember that when this ran on up to around .015-.02, all they had was one product. We now have what...four? Meaty sales numbers will grab a huge boat load of attention, and as long as the float remains around where it is at the moment this will be a very rewarding ride.
hmm....so little volume today - the calm before the storm?
Hardly any volume today...interesting.
another 9m form 't' trade today. Nice volume today considering. December will bring good news. Can't wait! Think Ill buy more. GLTA! Go PDGT!
I read the A/H description as sort of a "public good" thing. It allows "off the books" transactions because the opening the next day does not show the true "last trade" price in the opening price. A court ordered sale that would hurt shareholders seems like public good to lessen the impact. The justification would be "public good" or just bookkeeping for MMs.
My problen with #1 is I don't see how MMs would make money. My understanding is that they like to make money.
Tomorrow..
Ya that makes a lot more sense. MMs of course like to make money but maybe they are still making some through a percentage of the sales to the buyer. I think out of all three scenarios your theory has the greatest chance of being true. It will be interesting to see what you come up with when you get a copy of the court docs. (btw thanks for doing that and sharing).
Go PDGT!
I am not 100% about #1. My initial thoughts were that because of what Supergarvis posted earlier:
adamp...this is not dumping for sure...this can be a BIG BUY block...
For a big buyer...the mm's will bring all the shares they need to fill the buyer...before release the pps...
Check the A/H description...
I suppose that it would be possible for a MM to sell to a predetermined buyer at or below ask/bid level on a prearranged agreement. I guess you could consider this a heavy version of 'loading the boat'. If that is the case once the order is filled it would unlock the hold on the pps. The question is however how long this 'big buyer' intends on holding. If it is a big buyer then more then likely he/she intends on holding long given the positive outlook for pdgt. However if he/she decides that they have reached there threshold as the pps increases then will we see a large amount of shares start to dump onto the market? Will that drive the pps down? Hmmm...to be continued....sleepy time.
Are you thinking they are diluting, but releasing PRs that say NOT? Or, are you suggesting that dilution is coming soon?
Sort of, maybe both? If you go back and read the PR about the buyback; It doesn't specifically say that there wouldn't be any dilution up until the beginning of a buyback. It only implies that there wouldn't be. In my eyes I immediately want to be like "right on sweet! - a buyback in pinkie land!" but I have a feeling after seeing these AH 't' trades that it could quite possibly be some form of dilution. Am I worried about it though? No.
Best case scenario is that your theory proves correct. So far we have come up with 3 scenarios for these AH trades:
1. MM's keeping price down for a LARGE order to be slowly filled at these low levels.
2. Loterella shares being sold to satisfy part of debt.
3. PDGT raising capital through dilution.
Very good point Mr. Wizard. As much as we all want to say that there is no dilution going on, My theory is that we should not rule out the possibility that the company may be raising a small amount of capital to pay for upfront cost for the release of the products that are coming out in the next weeks. Could the press release of the 200million share buyback a couple months ago really mean that that pdgt needs to sell 200m shares to pay for upfront expenses for the delivery of the new products. Then say after that during the first 4 months of 09, after some major sales we get a buyback? Just a thought. Prove me wrong.
Linda - I don't know who you talked to down in Loleta but I am an honest person. I don't post false information. Like I said I'm not 100% sure what stage this is at. Obviously it isn't 'breaking ground' right now. So its probably safe to say that this is still in preliminary/planning stages. Getting in contact with the 'big dogs' who are interested in doing this project is probably pretty difficult. I would also like to point out that I was not the only one on this board to mention this potential project.
Regardless the 50 home project IMO is irrelevant to what the big issues are about this company. There hasn't been a press release for two months now, the pps has dropped to practically 0 and the quality of upper management is in question. Share holder confidence is at an all time low. The dilution machine has ran out of steam.
Great news today! WOW! TSA, DHS! This is great!
Lol ok for one take a DEEP breath. We are a small operation out of Central Oregon (Bend/Redmond) area and run a Father/Son distribution company called GreenBuildersWholesale.com in which we specialize in Energy Efficient home packages. We also do general construction. The main reason as to why we have become involved in this project is because of our reputation for quality installations of ICF's. We distribute Logix ICF blocks and this happened to be a block of choice for this project. So since we install and distribute products with Trendsetter we were asked by them (them knowing that we deal with Logix) if we would be interested in pricing out block and giving a bid on installation. I have the preliminary floor plans for each of the 3 different home models for the project in front of me.
Here is the address off the plans:
Bear River Band
27 Bear River DR.
Loleta, CA 95551
Jag | Roto Architecture
From what I heard (don't take this as fact this is literally ALL i know) the Band is going to be building a new Casino and the 50 homes are for employees and service people. They are going to be ICF - Solar assisted radiant floors.
And maybe they aren't as far along in the preliminary/Development stages as I thought. I honestly am not 100% but from what my Father told me they want to start this as soon as possible.
If you have any other questions i'd be glad to answer them to the best of my ability. I AM IN NO WAY affiliated with Trendsetter other then as a distributor and installer. I own almost 2 million shares of this stock and wish to see it return to a valuable state but I in no way post what I do with the intention to pump this or drive its price up. I feel screwed too.
- Peter
Nice work VTP! Nice work RookE! Go PDGT!!
Basically I do a lot more then just solar. These homes are going to be all ICF with solar assisted radiant heated floors. Most recently I was given the opportunity to help bid the project for the ICF shells. I anticipate that since the location of this project is very close to Eureka that a local installer will take care of the solar install.
And no this isn't something that is going to take a couple years to start. This is happening soon. They have money and are ready to go.
'Bullish' rating on stockta.com
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=PDGT&num1=1&cobrand=&mode=stock
One thing that I just now noticed that I like about the chart is that if you look back for the last two years you notice how chopped up the volume was. Look at the volume over the last 30 days compared to the rest of the year. Much more consistent in terms of a nice moderate level of volume. Maybe something is brewing?
Great post.
Its ok I may have blew a little steam. I am way excited about this stock. Way more then any other pinks that I have found. The next few weeks is going to be very interesting. This is not a matter of 'if' this is going to make a run it is a matter of 'when' and how hard. I have a feeling very hard and soon (1-6weeks).
If these 50 homes materialize on the indian reservation I will vote number 1 but if and only if they get that contract. I don't know what I can say but I will tell you that I am involved somewhat in this project and it is for real. It is in development stages and would be a great milestone for Trendsetter.
Trendsetter needs more exposure. There absolutely has not been enough. Not even close. I wish they would get involved with the new "Greensburg" project in the mid west. Discovery channel is highlighting that community development and provides HUGE amounts of exposure for companies in this field.
Nice work Rook E greatly appreciated!
VTP - for future reference-
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=help&hid=1835
'T' If reporting a single protected transaction. A protected transaction occurs when a large order is going through the market. The buyer (or seller) may wish to keep the order anonymous from the rest of the market as the size of the order could greatly alter the price of the stock. With a protected transaction, the dealer will put the trade through in small quantities rather than knock the whole order out in one hit. The entire transaction is reported once the deal is completed. The LSE is notified at the start and at the end of the transaction. However, the market as a whole isn't told until the end, thus the order is protected.
VTP come on man get real, treat people with respect. To think that a company is going to file a law suit against a message board member for 'being negative' or having a anti pdgt 'agenda' is absolutely absurd. In fact that is probably the most immature thing ive read on this board. Diverse viewpoints are what drives forums like this. This is a forum. Questions need to be answered and issues need to be addressed. Im sure you've done your dd and are quite confident with your position but for the sake of the rest of us doing our own ongoing DD it sure isn't fair to slam someone when they bring up another point of view that is other then your own.
Sounds like Rooke has identified the county and location of the lawsuit? Thats great! I still wonder if the lawsuit will actually materialize into an actual suit or if it will be settled outside of court through arbitration or mediation.
On a positive note it is nice to know that it is one entity doing the 'form t' sales, its not like everyone else is sell happy. Its not the company, maybe mm manipulation who knows. I may buy more. I think people are going to need a couple changes of underwear when this thing flies.
Lol, there haven't even been hardly any sales and they are still in business paying the bills. There has been NO dilution. Why? Look in the Ibox:
Reported outstanding Shares July 9th 2008 - 839,680,555
Reported outstanding Shares Oct 16th 2008 - 839,680,555
IMO the fact that there have been more than 3 consecutive months with no major sales/contracts to report and no dilution tells me that the company is doing just fine. This also tells me that the chance that they are diluting now is slim given that they have announced a share buyback and are just about to go into full production with their products. What we are seeing are seeds getting planted. These seeds when placed in the correct soil (like Hagemeyer) and given some water (sales)and sunlight (TSA contracts) are going to sprout and grow into awesome cash trees.
As for the lawsuit, has anyone suggested that maybe they settled outside of court through arbitration or mediation? Of course there are still questions that need to be answered but you can't ignore the fact that the pro's outweigh the con's on this one.
Found Info on form 'T' trades:
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=help&hid=1835#trade_reports_types
'T' If reporting a single protected transaction. A protected transaction occurs when a large order is going through the market. The buyer (or seller) may wish to keep the order anonymous from the rest of the market as the size of the order could greatly alter the price of the stock. With a protected transaction, the dealer will put the trade through in small quantities rather than knock the whole order out in one hit. The entire transaction is reported once the deal is completed. The LSE is notified at the start and at the end of the transaction. However, the market as a whole isn't told until the end, thus the order is protected.
LMAO this is like saying "Oh yeah you think Sony OWNS their products? They only makes a little off of every product that they sell cause they don't have exclusive rights to their product cause its made in a factory in china and that factory makes bank off of all the other sales it has." lol ....
Someone should get the links to the videos and put them in the ibox.
Those videos are great. They should have those on the PDGT website. This is far from a scam. Go pdgt!
one thing i noticed that I found interesting was that there was no sells above .0006 today. Whats up with the 9.8 mil dump at .0005 at the eod?
Wizard - Info about the anticipated release on the RadSafe is in the ibox:
3) Question: When will the RadSafe and StealthSensor be available for sale?
Answer: Both detectors have been available to pre-order for months and have been marketed to select dealers/distributors. Because of the need to have certain features of both detectors tested over and over and redesign circuitry to achieve the correct performance, the shelf date has been moved back to December 2008 from October-November.
Great news today people! Get your shares cheap while you can, they're not going to last long. Out of the trip 0's we go, pennies on the horizon.
Ok heres the way I see it. In all reality the amount of 'pre-orders' that have been placed are probably in numbers that are minuscule. We haven't seen any of the new products in use. Nor have we had any reviews on the quality of the products. This leads me to believe that we probably won't see significant sales numbers until the 'pre-order' products get shipped to distributors and customers. If im a distributor or a customer im not going to place a large order for something that I am not 100% confident in. I want something in my hands that I can turn on and show people how it works. Most customers aren't going to buy a product by just looking at a flier.
I hope that the quality and performance the newscan and the RadSafe go beyond our expectations. Until they are delivered to distributors and customers (supposedly December 08), we as shareholders have to wait patiently for sales results.
I am holding my 1m shares with confidence and look forward for the success of this company in the next couple months and hope that the anticipated success reflects into a healthy pps.
Interesting. Thanks for that.
Yea I heard about the 50 home development in the indain reservation too. My company may get involved with suppling other building materials and on site training. I heard they want all the homes to be ICF with solar assisted radiant floors. Pretty cool. - Pete