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"ValiMed features patent-pending technology that validates in seconds the strength of compounded doses of high risk medications prior to dispensing. Verification of compounding accuracy and sterilization is a requirement under USP 27-NF 22 Chapter 797, which regulates the compounding of sterile products. The ValiMed System can play a key role in demonstrating the safety of compounded sterile products (CSPs) under these requirements."
Q: How can The Valimed System play a key role in demonstrating the safety of compounded sterile products (CSP) under these requirements?
A: Refer to the first sentence (topic sentence) in the paragraph.
There would be less room for misinterpretaion if the first sentence read:
"Valimed features patent-pending technology that validates in seconds the strength of compounded doses of sterile, high risk medications prior to dispensing.
But it was not meant to be, so it is assumed that Valimed is testing sterile product otherwise it is all for naught.
I CAN'T CAPPY....
You get me so excited I could just scream!!! LOL
Crow,
{i]...But why do they cite (at least through the CAP) strength, accuracy and sterility in the same breath,,so to speak. When they talk 797 compliance.
They do not. Read the statements carefully.
Valimed tests the strength of a sterile compound.
The sterility of the compound is already a given in every one of such statements where the words are "in the same breath".
"ValiMed features patent-pending technology that validates in seconds the strength of compounded doses of high risk medications prior to dispensing"
Not "the strength ansd sterility".
CDEx and Baxa have never claimed that Valimed tests for sterility Crow, only the strength of a given compound.
Crow,
"Seems the CAP assumes ignorance of his readers."
One of the primary marketing strategies of all penny stock scamcos IMO.
...and fulfill whatever his obligation is for his "consultation" shares.
If capnmike is being paid for his STOCK PROMOTIONAL WORK on these investment message boards, wouldn't he be obligated to disclose that information?
oops.. "stories of lore"
...when questioned about his authoritative post Ontheedge tacitly admits he didn't really know what he was talking about! Who would believe! LOL He falsely thinks I was trying to educate people, when in reality, I was only asking a question:
Posted by: d4diddy
In reply to: ontheedge01 who wrote msg# 8291 Date:2/10/2006 8:22:39 PM
Post #of 12186
Thank you for answering my question:
"Valimed does not differentiate between sterility and non-sterility"
One more point for clarification, you wrote:
"...once bacteria begin to grow in the medication, or when alterations in its compounded structure occur, Valimed does measure the resultant altered composite signature as a change from the original."
This is two separate statements, if I may be allowed to separate them and address the first statement:
"...once bacteria begin to grow in the medication Valimed does measure the resultant altered composite signature as a change from the original."
And? Does it reject the med? For example, if the presence of bacteria adds something to the spectral fingerprint, but the bacteria does not effect the medication or strength and that part of the fingerprint which identifies the medication and strength remains unchanged, how will Valimed interpret this?
Will the test be a pass or fail?
Posted by: ontheedge01
In reply to: d4diddy who wrote msg# 8398 Date: 2/10/2006 10:41:04 PM
Post #
d4diddy:
Sorry, you have gotton beyond that which I can even give an opinion on.
But you know what, you are doing a really good job.
May I suggest you just keep educating us.
And could you post what you wrote September 17, 2004.
tia
So sayeth Ontheedge, fabricator of fake emails and Loch/CDEx stories or lore:
Posted by: ontheedge01
In reply to: d4diddy who wrote msg# 7963 Date:2/9/2006 3:54:52 AM
Post #of 12184
d4diddy:
1. I did a word search on patent application 10/268678 and did not find the word "revolutionary" in the document---perhaps you are looking at a version edited by your buddy, Henry Blair. The truly unique aspect of CDEX's work is the discovery (not found by any other research group until CDEX revealed it) that certain co-existing materials that are detectable by x-ray fluorescence are present in all explosives manufactured by all countries in existing landmines.
2. 2. Valimed does not differentiate between sterility and non-sterility, nor does it claim to do so diddy. You like to add your flavor to things to give a different impression of the real facts. Can you produce one fact where Valimed claims it can? No, would be the correct answer. If you could have filled in the blanks of your little test, you would have been able to understand that once bacteria begin to grow in the medication, or when alterations (changes, in case you try and alter the meaning of the word ) in its compounded structure occur, Valimed does measure the resultant altered composite signature as a change from the original.
3. Cdex never used the word revoltionary in the patent, why is it you want it used? Also, why do you want to give the impression that Valimed has claimed it can differentiate between sterility and non-sterility, to do so is to try and lie about what Valimed has said, vesus what diddy has twisted.
1) Question for you diddy, now relax, I am not going to ask you to fill in the blanks, I know you can't, but knowing that you were not at the booth in Vegas to hear cisco ( either him or his buddy, flash, flash, oh my my, ) try and buy a unit with a credit card, did you ever stop to think that the show units were just that----show units---and not loaded with either a full complement of optical components or a full standard database of signatures. I know you as a real executive type professional, would ask that very question to the person you were visiting with. Did cisco ( or his buddy fail to tell us that this was explained to him? In fact, conversations with anyone who has "real" actual questions, start out with telling the looker that very thing. Thus, a sale of a show unit to him, Cisco, (or his bud, flash,flash )would have been inappropriate at that time, and this was explained in detail to Mr. Credit card man. He was never told that the NDVU was in the "prototype" or "testing" stage (at least not by anyone knowledgeable on the sales team while he was standing there.) But diddy, if Mr. Credit Card man has enough buying power on his credit card, Baxa will gladly accepted his card at any time with standard BAXA delivery, warranty, and installation support. I hope he gives BAXA's sales team a call today. At the show, cisco, ( or his buddy, flash flash, camera's are a wonderful thing ) appeared somewhat flaky and not quite, shall we say, serious, about really wanting to purchase a unit. This was a dead give away to me when he offered his credit card, how unprofessional is that. And now my question. Diddy, do you think cisco's ( or his buddy, flash flash ) credit card has an insufficient or sufficient limit for this machine's cost?
On the cutting edge: Oak Ridge laser technique helps police build case
[June 9, 2006 Chattanooga Times/Free Press, Tenn.]
Next month, Court TV network will profile a case in which an Oak Ridge National Laboratory technique called laser-induced breakdown spectroscopy helped solve the murder of a 20-year-old Texas mother.
Laser-induced breakdown spectroscopy, or LIBS, is a pulsed laser focused on a sample. The resulting emissions can determine the elemental composition of various solids, liquids and gases.
"You look at 'CSI' and see (a technique) that is turnkey," said Dr. Madhavi Martin, an environmental scientist at ORNL. "I think this could do that."
In the Farmersville, Texas, case, partially burned wood at the outdoor crime scene was matched by the spectroscopy technique to wood at the suspect's home. The wood had identical elemental makeup, proving it came from the same tree.
The suspect, who had tried to burn victim Rachel Tolleson, was convicted and sentenced to death.
Since then, Dr. Martin has done work on bones from the University of Tennessee's Anthropological Research Facility, also known as the Body Farm, on a prosthetic knee replacement that is the subject of a lawsuit and on counterfeit currency.
"It's not my bread and butter," she said, "but it's kind of fun to work on something different." Dr. Martin's latest research is funded by the U.S. Department of Justice and ORNL's Laboratory Directed Research and Development program.
Tom Bodkin, a forensic anthropologist with the Hamilton County Medical Examiner's Office, said LIBS offers many forensics applications that have not been explored.
"You can analyze whatever you're looking at down to the atomic level," he said. "There is no lying there. You're presenting hard-core scientific information in the courtroom."
Before the Texas case, Dr. Martin was working on a LIBS project in which she was trying to show that different pieces of wood from different locations would have a different elemental makeup. When she was given 13 pieces of wood from the murder case, she was provided no background but only asked to test the wood. When she reported results of similar elemental properties in each piece to Dr. Henri Grissino-Mayer, a climatologist and bigeographer at the University of Tennessee who had given her the wood, he said it was good news.
When she asked why it was good news, since she was expecting different elemental properties in different pieces of wood, he explained the circumstances of the case to her.
"That's why I didn't tell you," Dr. Martin said Dr. Grissino-Mayer told her. "I didn't want you to be biased."
In their combined report, they said they could state with 99.995 percent confidence the wood was from the same place.
However, Dr. Martin said, a hearing still had to determine the admissibility of their report before it could be used in court. In the end, it was allowed, but didn't need to be used because the suspect, Moses Mendoza, had admitted his guilt.
Wayne Pickett, chief of the Farmersville Police Department, said although the police and FBI had a good video and written confession from the suspect, they continued to gather evidence in case he changed his mind.
"Everything coincided with his statement," he said, adding that the wood and other evidence made the eventual outcome a foregone conclusion even if Mr. Mendoza changed his plea.
Since then, Dr. Martin's spectroscopy tests on bones have shown, in addition to age, sex, ancestry and stature, that there are elemental differences between human and animal bones. There are also differences between carnivore, herbivore and omnivore animal bones. There are even differences in bone composition among the races, she said.
"At first, I thought, 'I hate to touch those bones.' It's kind of weird," she said. "But it's intriguing to see (the differences) in the first few experimental cases. It's a good area in which to do research."
Mr. Bodkin said LIBS offers "so many advantages" over an Inductively Coupled Plasma analyzer, an instrument currently used for determining the elemental composition of substances.
An ICP analyzer only tests solutions, while LIBS tests solids, liquids or gases, he said. In addition, an ICP analyzer only searches for those elements it has been programmed to search for, while LIBS searches for all elements in the periodic table, he said.
The LIBS also works quickly, Dr. Martin said. "You know (a substance's composition) in a few seconds."
http://www.spectroscopynow.com/coi/cda/detail.cda?id=13760&type=News&chId=7
"The one thing I can almost promise you is that no institution will invest in a stock at this level with these losses. Its not going to happen and usually they do not invest in stocks under three or four bucks. The key, and you agree, is funding, quickly, IMO."
-Scarednomore
I agree, which made me wonder why Griffin, an experienced penny stock executive/stock promoter, would make such a comment in a PR. Surely he knows institutions won't touch such an investment.
Assumming the above to be true leads me to believe that his comments were not meant for institutinal investors at all, but for ordinary, everyday investors like you and I. Why? Projecting the image of "institutinal investors" always adds an element of security to one's investment- Penny Stock Marketing 101, hypster trick No. 9. How many times have we read hypsters blatantly post claims of institutional buys that just aren't true?
And while Griffin is urgently promoting CDEX to raise capital quickly, why not double the five year projected earnings from 100 million to 200 million? What the heck. How can that be justified? Twice the "anticipated sales" of their suite of products of course.
IMO, we're beggining to see how Griffin operates a penny stock promotional scheme.
Pass the popcorn, the show is just starting.
"Lather, rinse, repeat." LMAO! Ya kill me sumtimes XENO!
Rememeber when capnmike posted link after link about "pulse lasers"?
Did all that hype turn out to be relevant at all?
Thank you Xeno for illustrating my earlier point with prime examples.
August 2002:
"Finally, in addition to substantial work involved with the Army testing contract previously reported, we have been working hard on other fronts. Two I will mention briefly. First, about four weeks ago we ordered the UV “pulse laser” necessary for us to move forward with developing chemical detection capability from substantial distances. While this purchase allows a standoff distance of only about 150 meters, the purchase is a large step for us."
Oh shucks! A stand-off distance of ONLY about 150 meters?
That was 4 YEARS AGO. I wonder how much they've improved the stand-off distance of the meth gum since then?
Does anyone know?
Valimed is under an inch under pristine conditions.
So how about the fabulous meth gun? Can anyone confirm what the stand-off distance is? Does anyone want to know or our you satisfied with reading links about the national meth crisis?
Once again, if you're buying a economy car for tha gas mileage and the salesman keeps pitching to you how gas prices our skyrocketing, wouldn't any reasonasble person naturally insist on knowing the MPG of the car before buying it. Is just knowing that gas prices are skyrocketing sufficient information for you to make a buying decision?
LOL!! Too funny. Sorry folks, I just can't believe that some of you are so "comfortably numb" about your investment!
Has anyone noticed how certain posters have been flooding the board with irrelevant posts as a diversion today?
Incredible!!! LOL!
I see that Viking (AKA Riorancho) can't handle the truth. Rio, what I posted was the truth and no matter how hard you try to cloak it with you "basherban" nonsense it will remain the truth.
What's wrong with investors/shareholders asking questions about what CDEX is trying to sell?
If you are uncertain about a product, ask before you buy or invest.
If I want to buy an economy car for gas efficiency, I don't want to hear the salesman pitching how much the price of gas is going up, I want to know the MPG of the car.
You're crying is so typical.
Will we ever get the performance specs on the meth gun? So far it's been the exact same blueprint as VAMMP, ELF, EM-1, PS3, SafePill/Valimed...etc.
Our resident, online STOCK PROMOTERS post every bit of information that they can get their hands on about the "crisis" at hand, whether it is about childen being killed and maimed by landmines, security at airports, counterfeit prescription drugs, bad booze and now, the national meth "crisis".
The "crisis" is hyped to death without any details whatsoever being provided to allow investors to evaluate whether the product under development by Loch/CDEX is really capable of offering a solution to the problem.
Everyone that's been around this investment for a while knows this is the truth.
Just think about the BS that we've been fed for years. Were we ever given all the facts about how well any past product could perform for the advertised (hyped) markets? Where are those products today?
VAMMP? ELF/EM-1? The suite of airport security products?
What happen to SafePill? Does the ASD tech (NIR) work better for testing pills than the CDEX tech (UV)? Why did the SafePill morph into Valimed? We are still being told that Valimed has use for counterfeit prescription drug detection even though 90% of prescription drugs are in the pill form. Who actually believes that it will ever be used for anything other than high risk, compounded IV solutions and narcotic returns?
I'm taking wagers (sorry Scared).
Here we go again with the meth gun. So predictable!
What do we really know about how well the meth gun can perform and what impact it will have on the national meth problem?
Posting countless links about the meth problem tells me NOTHING about whether the "meth gun" is capable of offering a solution to the problem.
It's disturbing to see stock promoters lead some investors by the ear, demand more information about the capabilities of the product and don't simply be "wowed" by the significance of the problem they spam.
INET, do you think this post is bashing? LOL
Does anyone remember the article posted on the boards about the original relationship between Tim Shriver and Dr. Marstellar?
I believe the story was told by Dr. Marstellar about his patient, Tim Shriver, describing the business of CDEx during a doctor visit. Dr. Marstellar's story explains how he became involved with CDEx and is prior to the product concept of SafePill/Valimed.
It was during the waning period of the revolutionary trace explosive detector when CDEx was still "waiting in the queue" for Army testing.
Anyone?
Scared, you would think that Griffin knows that an institutional investment manager isn't going to touch a company like CDEx. It makes me wonder why he was pushing in that direction. It seemed as if he was trying to sell the BOD bios as much as the tech IMO.
I don't know if the lawyers would have appreciated him talking about the lawsuit.
I think he should have explained why CDEx has a better mousetrap than other companies in the spectroscopy business. Everyone keeps talking about how our tech is so much better than anything out there, but no one can explain why? How silly is that?
Capnmike can't. Ontheedge can't. Raiderman can't. And some of these guys claim to be in such close communication with WP that I would think the only thing they'd have to do is give him a call for a good explanation. That would go a long, long way in my book.
Griffin should have explained in laymen's terms why CDEx UFV tech is superior to others. What can it do that others can't? Is it faster? Is it more accurate? Repeatable? Higher sensitivity? Greater stand-off distance? Instead, he said it was better than a refractometer and better than sending it out to a lab. Very disappointing. You're not going to get big money investing in a penny stock bases on BOD bios IMO.
When developing a sales script, if you don't have a convincing and impressive answer don't ask the question.
OK eom
Sanddollar, email me. eom
I don't think that we'll need to do that lmorovan!
Post 12063. eom
lmorovan, Let's test your theory with keywords:
Loch Harris
100 million newly authorized shares on 1/05/2000
Accountability
Paper trail
Transfer Agent
IRS
Sand, yes I do.
Someone that has been very, very accurate in his posts. Someone that openly claims to check his sources thoroughly before posting information which he is not afraid to state as fact. Someone that I believe to be creditable if for no other reason, for the lack of every reading any BS.
For example:
By: ATXMAN
27 Jan 2005, 10:17 PM EST
Msg. 230647 of 239471
Raiderman and Diddy, sirs I wanted to touch base with the both of you in regards to my visit today at the Children’s Medical Center in Dallas. First after waiting about 20 mins on the Admin floor, I was finally helped by someone in public relations who in turn walked me down to the pharmacy where the Valimed device is used. After brief introductions with the senior pharmacist I asked if I could see the system and watch either a demonstration or test of the device. The senior pharmacist looked right at me and said that would be impossible, as they have not tested the device themselves, since it is not located inside the pharmacy.
When I presented them with a copy of the press release, they said that they in fact have a relationship with Valimed but they had not heard the name or company called CDEX. I asked what type of relationship it is and it was relayed to me that the medical center provides them with support and answers questions regarding grades, levels and type of drugs for which a footprint would be developed. It is their understanding that once the database is completed and analysis is reviewed, then a prototype will be created. I asked, “if the prototype be placed here at the center” and the senior pharmacist was “hoping that would be the case”. He then implied that based on what he is hearing it could be a long process and based upon our 20-minute conversion he did agree that the FDA would have to be a major factor in determining if the device could be used in a commercial environment. According to other sources inside the Medical Center and the parent company there has been no discussion of pricing, number of units, or the availability of any device as of today. He did take my number and he promised to get back to me after he spoke with Dr. Tourville, who is his manager.
I shall wait, as I am quite interested in the final outcome. Raiderman, I would really appreciate your feedback of what took place with my site visit, however no spin.
Thank You
By: robertl37
27 Jan 2005, 10:44 PM EST
Msg. 230651 of 239471
(This msg. is a reply to 230647 by ATXMAN.)
ATXMAN, I'm a little confused by your post. You said you were walked down to the pharmacy where the ValiMed device is used. Then you said,
"The senior pharmacist looked right at me and said that would be impossible, as they have not tested the device themselves, since it is not located inside the pharmacy."
If it's not in the pharmacy, where is it? Is it even in the hospital? Something doesn't smell right AGAIN!!
By: ATXMAN
27 Jan 2005, 10:52 PM EST
Msg. 230653 of 239471
(This msg. is a reply to 230651 by robertl37.)
Robert, sir there is nothing to be confused about. Please read what the pharmacist said to me and it should clear up any confusion you may or may not have. I am of the opinion that the device is not located anywhere within the state of Texas.
Thank You
Then DiamonDave says something stupid and AXTMAN replies:
By: ATXMAN
27 Jan 2005, 11:23 PM EST
Msg. 230673 of 239471
(This msg. is a reply to 230667 by Diam0ndave.)
DiamondDave, sir just to save you some time. Please go back to my first posts and you will see that I posted my name, occupation, education, and even allowed myself to be photographed by TB. Please keep in mind I was one of the first to let the cat out of the bag regarding Loch and the SEC, etc. I hope you do have all of my posts as I feel I may receive a pat on the back for all of my hard work. Now good night.
Sandollar, and during this whole period, CDEX STOCK PROMOTERS and hypsters lead readers to believe that DCH was using a Valimed in the pharmacy and had actually purchased it?
A year later we learn that ATXMAN was 100% right-on!!!
lmorovan can you drop a note to ATXMAN's attention on the Lochlong board and provide a link to this board? TY
Sanddollar,
"...but why did my posts about TB get zapped?"
Crow says that Matt doesn't read this board and believes that Moonie has been TOSing people (I think he said that).
Connect the dots:
By: ATXMAN
20 Feb 2005, 02:37 PM EST
Msg. 233205 of 239471
(This msg. is a reply to 233203 by Monsoonman.)
Monsoonman's, sir if you would just take the time to remove your nose out of Tomsheboys butt you would see the light.
Please let everyone know on the board how many times you bought and sold on his inside information (of course I will admit it the information did come 2nd hand from Norbert). If people only knew the real truth about the little scam you ran with the sheboys.
Thank You
Let's all thank Capnmike.
It was nice of Capnmike to return from his hiatus and once again lend a helping hand with his promotional skills. I trust the pay is good.
Thank you Cappy, but please don't help CDEx and yourself by misleading readers and potential investors.
Now, back to our regular programming.
What about Baxa? Are they going to step up to the plate with that stock option? Does CDEx have to rewrite the offer (isn't it at .82/share) or can they give Baxa a separate, sweet PP deal?
It is a critical period for CDEx. They need immediate funds badly and not just a few more dollars from their current PP investors, they need new money.
As Griffin implied in his recent interview, Loch/CDEX has always been associated with a small circle of PP investors and has never really reached the big money investment community.
Of course, Loch/CDEX has they never had a real product in the past so that stands to reason. It will be interesting to see if Griffin can attract institutional investing so soon after the introduction of their first bona fide product since inception.
He does have huevos.
Well Crow,
everytime I mention the 100 million shares that Loch Harris authorized back in January, 2000 right before the Feb pump-n-dump my post gets zapped.
"why don't you just read his post's and the THINK, you may put 2+2 togther, then again not you..."
That's exactly what we have done.
He has historically been a Loch/CDEx stock promoter that is 70% irrelevant and 20% hype.
The remaining 10% is contributed to the fine poetry he shares with readers! LOL
The CDEx STOCK PROMOTERS are back!
Good interview of Jim Griffin by thewallstreetreporter.com. It appears Griffin is trying to get CDEx better exposure to new investment money, especially institutional.
Highlights:
- strength of interview- selling the bios of the BOD
- 3 million needed in the next 18 months
- breakeven after that
- 200 million in 5 years
- followed by disclaimers
When asked what makes CDEX tech better than others, Griffin focused on Valimed and said it was better than a pharmacist using a refractometer to test the IV solution and it's better than sending a sample to an outside lab which could take days for results. Weak!
I beleive that if he had something unique to say about the technology that was the time to say it. Not impressive, the question should have never been put in the script.
No comparison with other manufacturers of spectral instruments.
Interesting article Crow...
I noticed that there are no exceptions for fraud and willful evasion.
Hypothetically, if someone were to claim that they were too busy in active trading to have the time to file their personal income tax, do you think the court would find that to be an exceptable excuse?
Can someone be too busy trading, yet spend countless hours posting on stock message boards promoting penny stocks?
I'm too busy in the lab right now to even communicate with the outside world from my computer, gotta go.
No personal phone calls either, I'm in isolation.
Ahh Yes, I had forgotten about U2pilot and BCI_banker! LOL
Very true. eom
17 aleb,
"indicate precisely what you're trying to say,
your posts are always drifting away"
(sung to: Beatles- When I get old)
Ahhh yes, I remember that fella, what was the posters alias, epatanni or stock summpin? LOL
"Are the legal issues curbing sales? Of course we do not know the answers to those questions at this point."
Good question Scared, I've been wondering the same thing. My understanding is that if ASD wins the infringement suit, ever customer that has purchased a Valimed unit will be infringing on the ASD patent.
If this is the case, it would certainly stall sales if Baxa/CDEx fully disclose the situation to potential customers IMO.
A lease package with safeguards for the customer may be the better offer during the litigation period.
Why of course Inet, why ddin't I think of that. Thank you.
"I feel more comfortable with my investment than ever before."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01212&read=28256
9 million dollars- ouch! That's a lot of stock sells. Hope he has all his buy receipts!
A intelligent adult sterotyping like that is pretty ridiculuos WMFT.
It doesn't look good, Monsoonman should be downright embarrassed IMO.
Monsoonman demonstrates on the RB Cexi board how frustrated he is with lmorovan; he'll try anything to discredit him! True Loch/CDEx insider behavior. LOL!!!!!
Paige:
"..hows come you can pick apart our patent about the distance and such and be ok with asd encompassing the whole ray enchilada?
Yawn...
Do some homework Paige, if you value your investment.
But put your thinking cap on and be OBJECTIVE!