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Then obviously he didn't talk to Leslie. Is he hallucinating, or did he just make the whole thing up?
Janice, he suffers from a severe case of Penny Stockholm Syndrome. I believe he does talk to people but, when they talk his eyes glaze over. Then again, it could be a little of both.
Example of jfarn's lack of reason:
Kevin has repeated often in his FAQs that they have documents in their possession that the SEC should take a look at, and they have an open invitation to view them. Now, IF the SEC was indeed in Texas that would make perfect sense. Instead of figuring this simple explanation out jfarn would rather turn this into something malicious. When Mr. Norris, Maheu, Gov. officials, etc. are kind enough to give him their time and perhaps some information, he ignores all the signs they give him that this is nothing more than a penny stock scam and spins it into his wacky world of conspiracies. He is another guru wannabe trying to con folks into believing he knows the real inside scoop, imo. He like acca, also enjoys insulting his audience of sheep.
By: jfarn
08 Apr 2008, 08:58 AM EDT
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Burrito,
Why would Leslie H. have called me from Texas?
Any thoughts?
jf
By: jfarn
08 Apr 2008, 10:06 AM EDT
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Jay,
Any thoughts as to why Lelie would phone me from a small town in Texas? She works in LA and the SEC has an office in the big city of San Antonio.
Ann said she might have been in Texas for the day?
Go figure.
jf
By: jfarn
08 Apr 2008, 09:23 AM EDT
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Where you deposed by Leslie?
No
Or did Leslie depose someone and your name popped up?
Possibly...I don't mind shaking the tree and let the chips/truth fall where it may.
Were you paid by someone to pump CMKM and create lies?
All of my effort has been 100% free of charge. And... until we differed on the output/sincerity/legitimacy of Tyler; I think we would be in agreement on most if not all of what I have worked for.
Does Leslie have documents showing your a paid pumper?
LOL...you haven't followed my work or comments over the years..or you're just a lying, manipulative, weasel. I suspect the latter from how you represent yourself in writing.
You need to be specific jfarn!
I spoke with my Senator Joe L. over the SEC's lack of action at that point in time approximately three weeks ago. He said he was going to make a few calls. I coincidentally get a return call from Leslie H. of all people at my office. She attempted to assuage my angst about her organizations reactive at best actions re: the fraud that was exacted on so many. The call came from a tiny town in Texas. Leslie doesn't reside nor work in Texas.
How's that dopey. Specific enough for you?
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When they initiated the cert pull Bagley would have made a ton of money issuing those certs. I wonder if the SEC has or will go after that money.
Tavy, that was my initial thought also, plus when will the SEC publish some depositions.
Also, in one of Kevin's FAQ, he said people would be surprised who some of the pumpers are who helped Urban. Will it be revealed in Faulk's book, or will they be named to a lawsuit?
djzzzzz is off on a new tack...... still nutty as a fruitcake but very creative.
In that regard, djzzzz has plenty of company on the Zoo board. Ravenpeach didn't disappoint me yesterday and jfarn continues to make a complete idiot out of himself. The more information people give him, the more confused he becomes and spins it into his wacky world of conspiracies.
Monday, April 07, 2008
The SEC Cracks a Naked Short Nut-Case
In the "Baloney Blitzkrieg" chapter of Wall Street Versus America, I describe the looniness surrounding a grimy little diamond mining shell company called CMKM Diamonds -- a company that barely existed except for a share-generating mechanism, a loudmouth CEO named Urban Casavant, and a handful of exceedingly stupid shareholders who made fools of themselves on picket lines when they weren't sending threatening emails to journalists and regulators.
It was a good example of how a small group of determined crackpots can cause damage to our regulatory system, in this case by pushing a fraudulent "stock counterfeiting" conspiracy theory.
Above all, CMKM was a textbook case of corporate blame-shifting, and today the SEC put the blame where it really belonged, charging the company with a massive fraud in which Casavant personally raked in $31 million.
The SEC complaint observes:
Casavant generated investor interest in CMK by using false press releases, Internet chat boards, and "funny car" race events across the country. To divert attention from their own dumping of CMK shares, Casavant persuaded CMK's investors that the reported high trading volume in CMK stock reflected extensive "naked short sellng" rather than ordinary stock dilution. This promotion was extremely successful, and about 40,000 investors purchased CMK stock during the period of the fraud. In reality, Casavant ran the company from his house in Las Vegas, and CMK had no meaningful operations other than issuing and promoting its own stock. [emphasis added]
Patrick Byrne, the full-time Wikipedia editor who mismanages Overstock.com in his spare time, has taken over the naked shorting banner from Casavant. Naturally, his company has never made a dime in profits and is also under SEC investigation.
Unfortunately, it took CMKM years to grind its way through the SEC system, and the Overstock case is "only" two years old. So stay tuned--but be patient.
Floyd Norris, commenting on a typically paranoid email from a naked shorting nut, says "Do you think that reader will admit he was fooled? I don’t."
I agree, and the snail-like SEC, which did not "set any speed records for filing," as Floyd points out, must share the blame for that.
Apart from its extreme slowness in processing this and other cases -- Overstock's is a good example -- the SEC has made matters worse by pandering to naked shorting loons. The agency has diverted valuable resources in pursuit of its "Regulation SHO" idiocy, which has no real effect on the markets while fueling conspiracy theories that gull the naive.
© 2008 Gary Weiss. All rights reserved.
http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/2008/04/sec-cracks-naked-short-nut-case.html
http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/07/making-millions-from-fraud/
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Floyd, glad to see you’re still following this story closely. Back in 2006 you replied to one of my comments to you by stating that you didn’t “know how big a problem f.t.d’s were in our markets. You have recently pulled that comment down. Any comment as to your timing? I wanted to highlight it considering Chris Cox’s recent work with 10B-21. Would love to read your thoughts as to where you are now with naked short selling.
jf
Floyd Norris replies: To my knowledge, nothing has been taken off the blog.
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By: jfarn
07 Apr 2008, 05:54 PM EDT
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Chris,
About two weeks ago I received a call at my office from someone claiming to be Leslie H.. I have no reason to believe that the call was not legit. The interesting aspect of the conversation other than the fact that she was back-pedaling faster than Pedro in a boxing ring was the fact that the call came from a Texas area code that we might all be familiar with.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Wallow that around a bit.
jf
By: jfarn
07 Apr 2008, 09:33 PM EDT
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Don't you people understand:
Leslie is working with Tyler. This is akin to one of Stalin's "show trials." She didn't cover her tracks for some reason.
I am done explaining to you folks.
Buenos Noches
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Janice should become a "Natural Lawyer" and sue that flamed shirt off his back. lol
Doesn't it bother anyone that Urban has Janices name on his licence plate?? Re KINGPIN
Andy shows up to support Urban once again. He has no shame!
By: okanagan
07 Apr 2008, 09:42 PM EDT
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Hello fellow CMKX'rs. Always EVENT DRIVEN!!
The DELISTING was the FIRST major event as REQUESTED by CMKM DIAMONDS, INC.
The SEC's COMPLAINT FILING is now the SECOND major event.
I am CONFIDENT "bonafide" CMKX SHAREHOLDERS are in a VERY GOOD situation at this point.
Remember what Urban said to me and I said to SHAREHOLDERS:
PATIENCE WILL WIN...BUT YOU HAVE TO BE IN TO **WIN** !!
Cheers and best wishes to all CMKX'rs
Oaks (aimho)
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If this drags I can see lawsuits against the sec popping up, cmkx was the most traded, watched, and counterfeited stock of all time, so it is the sec's fault for letting this happen and having rules that allowed it.
Huh? So how did that lawsuit against the SEC work out for Captain Fluffy? LOL
Why can't these morons figure out the majority of scams stocks are registered in the state of Nevada for a reason?
that at all times UC had legal counsel, advising him...i.e. RGlenn
looks to me like UC was victimized, big time...
so who really is the fraudulent...
Poor djzzzz still can't add two and two together. They were all warn not to make a hero out of Glenn and any other lawyer involved with this scam. Now they're making a hero out of that Hodges dude. Amazing!
the shareholders are the damaged victims and we shall be paid restitution with pre and post judgment interest!
Many of the truly delusional were self inflicted victims. They help sucked many innocent folks into this scam with their hero worship of Urban and false rumors. Imo, they're still doing it.
If they found out that Urbie was getting a lethal injection they'd say it was all part of the PLAM and that he'd WON.
LOL No doubt! Have you seen the zoo board yet today? Is Ravenpeach and djzzzz in total shock over there?
What about poor acca? Are the packets still coming in April?
Are they lacing the PalTalk and zoo board kool-aid tonight?
Nobody cares about Urban. There was no wrong doing.
Looks like the stingy just got stung! LOL
Criminal charges are next!
They snagged 1st Global, and Helen Bagley, TOO!!!!
Whee Doggies!
1st Global, Bagley
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.htm
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.htm
SEC Charges Fourteen Defendants In Scheme To Issue And Sell Unregistered Cmkm Diamonds Stock
U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Litigation Release No. 20519 / April 7, 2008
Securities and Exchange Commission v. CMKM Diamonds, Inc., et. al, United States District Court for the District of Nevada, Civil Action No. 08- CV 0437
SEC Charges Fourteen Defendants In Scheme To Issue And Sell Unregistered Cmkm Diamonds Stock
The Securities and Exchange Commission today filed a civil injunctive action against fourteen defendants involved in the alleged illegal issuance and sale of unregistered stock of CMKM Diamonds, Inc., purportedly a diamond and gold mining company located in Las Vegas. With assistance from a transfer agent and an attorney, allegedly CMKM fraudulently issued hundreds of billions of shares of purportedly unrestricted stock to John Edwards, the scheme's mastermind, and his nominees, as well as to the nominees of Urban Casavant, the company's chief executive officer. The Commission alleges that as Casavant generated demand for CMKM stock through fraudulent promotion of the company, Edwards, Casavant, and their nominees sold their shares into the public markets for at least $64.2 million in profit, much of which was paid to Casavant to support his extravagant lifestyle. Allegedly, Edwards profited by about $26.4 million from sales through a single broker-dealer, Casavant profited by about $31.5 million, and Casavant's nominees profited by about $6.3 million.
The Commission's complaint, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada, alleges that, from January 2003 to May 2005, CMKM improperly issued up to 622 billion shares of purportedly unrestricted stock. According to the complaint, these issuances were based in large part on both written authorizations and attorney opinion letters prepared by Brian Dvorak, CMKM's lawyer, which were often facially inadequate, suspect, and inconsistent. Allegedly, based on these faulty documents, CMKM's transfer agent, 1st Global Stock Transfer LLC, and its owner, Helen Bagley, issued stacks of stock certificates without restrictive legends. Edwards, his nominees, Kathleen Tomasso and Anthony Tomasso, and Casavant's nominees, James Kinney and Ginger Gutierrez, then allegedly deposited the certificates with various broker-dealers and sold the shares into the market. NevWest Securities Corporation and its employees, Anthony Santos, Sergei Rumyantsev, and Daryl Anderson, are alleged to have sold more than 259 billion shares of CMKM stock for Edwards, despite numerous red flags indicating a massive unregistered distribution. Meanwhile, Casavant allegedly generated investor interest in CMKM by using false press releases, Internet chat boards, and "funny car" race events across the country. The complaint alleges that this promotion was extremely successful, and about 40,000 investors purchased CMKM stock during the period of the fraud without knowing that Casavant ran the company from his house in Las Vegas, and that CMKM's primary activity was to issue and promote its own stock.
The Commission charged CMKM, Casavant, Edwards, Gutierrez, Kinney, the Tomassos, 1st Global, Bagley, NevWest, Anderson, Rumyantsev, Santos, and Dvorak with violating Section 5 of the Securities Act of 1933 by participating in an unregistered distribution of securities. The Commission also charged CMKM and Casavant with violating the antifraud provisions of Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange Act") and Rule 10b-5 thereunder. In addition, CMKM is alleged to have violated Sections 13(b)(2)(A) and 13(b)(2)(B) of the Exchange Act, and Casavant is alleged to have violated Rule 13b2-1 under the Exchange Act. Finally, the Commission charged Casavant with aiding and abetting CMKM's violations of Sections 13(b)(2)(A) and 13(b)(2)(B) of the Exchange Act, as well as violations of Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a 13 thereunder for which CMKM was previously found liable in an administrative proceeding.
The Commission seeks a permanent injunction against all defendants. The Commission also seeks an accounting, disgorgement with prejudgment interest, and civil penalties against Casavant, Edwards, Gutierrez, Kinney, the Tomassos, 1st Global, Bagley, NevWest, Anderson, Rumyantsev, Santos, and Dvorak. In addition, the Commission seeks a penny stock bar against Casavant, Edwards, Gutierrez, Kinney, Anthony Tomasso, Kathleen Tomasso, Bagley, Anderson, Rumyantsev, Santos, and Dvorak. Finally, the Commission seeks an order prohibiting Casavant from acting as an officer or director of any public company.
The Commission acknowledges the assistance of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) and the Saskatchewan Financial Services Commission.
The Commission's investigation is continuing.
SEC Complaint in this matter
WOW OMG Holy Smokes!!!!!!!!!!
I missed an exciting day! Lots of catching up to do! CMKX on IHub's top ten list! LOL
Criminal charges are next!
Internet Fraud Dupes Men More Often Than Women
Robert McMillan, IDG News Service
Sun Apr 6, 8:00 AM ET
When it comes to being taken in by Internet fraudsters, men have a knack for losing cash, according to a new report from the Internet Crime Complaint Center.
Data compiled from more than 206,000 complaints received last year by the U.S. Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) shows that men lost US$1.67 to every $1 lost by women in online fraud.
Identifying Fraud Trends
The IC3 is the clearinghouse for online crime complaints in the U.S., and its database is used by regulators and law enforcement to get a picture of criminal trends and, in some cases, help hunt down the criminals. It is a joint effort run by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National White Collar Crime Center.
The organization says that buying patterns and human nature play into the findings.
"Historically men were more apt to purchase large ticket item like electronics... that could explain a lot of it," said John Kane, the IC3 research manager who wrote the report.
But with women now spending more online, the difference is also due to the fact that certain types of schemes seem to suck men in. "Men tend to fall victim... to business investment schemes and some other schemes that have a higher dollar loss," Kane said.
Investment fraud complaints, where the average loss is more than $3,500, were overwhelmingly submitted by men, Kane said. Compare that to something like auction fraud, where both men and women are frequently victimized. The average loss there is just over $480.
Men also tend to be the victims of check fraud (average loss: $3,000) and Nigerian letter fraud scams ($2,000), Kane said.
Crime Climbs
Overall, Internet crime is netting the bad guys more money than ever.
Total losses from 2007 complaints came to $239 million, up $40 million from 2006.
The 2007 data, released Thursday, shows that the total number of complaints received by the group was actually down for the second year in a row. In 2007 the IC3 Web site logged just under 207,000 complaints. In 2005 that number was over 231,000.
Kane credited the drop in complaints to increased consumer awareness, but according to Gary Warner, director of research in computer forensics with the University of Alabama at Birmingham, there may be another explanation.
Warner spends a lot of time studying the criminals and said that in recent months, researchers have noticed that credit card numbers have often been stolen and then not used. "One theory is that nobody wants to go to jail for stealing $40," he said. "So when they get access to these accounts, they're using only the ones that they can get the most value from."
Often, criminals will do a balance check and then sell only the cards with the highest balances. "I think there's a little bit of filtering on the criminal side that's at play here," he said.
There was another interesting finding in the 2007 data. The IC3 found that many countries that were commonly linked with cybercrime were the sources of the incidents it tracked, but it did not list China as a top source of perpetrators. China has been named as the source of many online attacks over the past year, but it didn't make IC3's list of top 10 countries by perpetrators.
Leading the list were the U.S., the United Kingdom and Nigeria.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080406/tc_pcworld/144129
from CHURAK
BOZONE LAYER, n.: "the substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating."
LOL Unbeal!
This is IMO just the first step towards a perp walk for Urban
THANK YOU FATHER
leowanta
;)
Yes, and they can never tell us who they are or anything about them. It adds to the suspense I guess.
I love how the media has no clue about the great transfer of wealth that's about to occur, or that CMKX is the little engine that could.
He is a hero to some people here who still think a diamond mine is in the works.
How about that! Urban has something in common with the Nigerian 419 scam artists. Some people believe they're legendary too for ripping off people.
I bumped into Urbie at Casino Regina tonight
He went to the black jack high roller table which is $25 a hand
For someone that is reported to be broke, Urban certainly spends a great deal of his time in Casinos. Meanwhile, his loyal sheep are still in limbo after four long years of not hearing a beep from him. I guess going to the Casinos relieves the stress from poor old Urban.
he looked better than I had seen him in years
Why not? He can afford a good plastic surgeon.
I actually did not recognize him until he passed.
His ace in the hole. Maybe that's why after nearly a year the bulldog can't manage to serve him. lol
He doesn't have much of a memory.
How could anyone "Remember" about it if he was not on the message boards posting about it himself? And now he denies it! Jarta got him good reposting one of his rants about his fallout with Ed/slurp and Turino. LOL
Quote:Remember, I received a most unpleasant visitor to my home due to my ragging JT who caught my wife alone at home.... not a pleasant experience. You can rag me for all you want, but remember, I paid a price of real threats against my family for telling the truth that none else here experienced."
He posted at least once that his wife was from the Philippines and he would go there to visit her family. Of coarse he could deny that, too.
Hard to imagine who'd marry him, and why.
Yep. Slurp would be all coked up, or whatever his choice of poison was.
Sometimes with Slurp, sometimes alone. He'd go on till four or five in the morning, his time.
OMG This is too funny!
lol, All*n always was paranoid...
By: IBAFT_2017
04 Apr 2008, 09:14 PM EDT
You knew what was said when peoplke were sent to my house not because I provided such information - if so, repost it!
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTMD&read=18759
By: scandle2002
05 Apr 2008, 07:53 AM EDT
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"You knew what was said when peoplke were sent to my house not because I provided such information - if so, repost it! "
If you could contain Mr. Hyde so as to keep an alias it would be done. You posted it, we all saw it, and you are certainly proving his point for him.
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTMD&read=18764
By: jarta
05 Apr 2008, 04:26 PM EDT
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Treffles, ... If you wouldn't lie so much, I wouldn't have to post what you said.
Sorry that playing back your own posts to you gets you so upset. Next time try to get your lies straight.
23 squidoo, Treffles! Rant on! ... eom
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- No Position)
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTMD&read=18784
By: jarta
05 Apr 2008, 04:42 PM EDT
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You see, doofus, you dropped this turd on this thread after I hadn't posted for days:
"There is the scumbag Jerka - lying again ... You knew what was said when peoplke were sent to my house not because I provided such information - if so, repost it!"
So, I reposted it (only one of many times you posted it):
"Why I flip-flopped on Turino? I bought the whole naked shorting BS on PCBM and spoke to LoCastro on a regular basis, who lied to me repeatedly about busting the short. When I woke up and smelled the coffee, I turned on management with as much vigor as I had when supporting them against what I perceived to be bashers. Remember, I received a most unpleasant visitor to my home due to my ragging JT who caught my wife alone at home.... not a pleasant experience. You can rag me for all you want, but remember, I paid a price of real threats against my family for telling the truth that none else here experienced."
I don't think you could tell the truth if you wanted to. You are so confused about the constant lies you tell! ... eom
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http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTMD&read=18785
I signed up for his email newsletter but only for kicks
I hope it was a throw away email address. It would not surprise me at all if he sells his list.
childish hate and gutter insults was probably reserved for Janice a few years ago. I'm sure she has archived much of it
Well, Janice may as well archive this libelous post, too.
By: IBAFT_2017
05 Apr 2008, 03:34 PM EDT
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Please Jerka, REPORT ME to the Feds
and let us see where it goes. I am confident you, Janice Shell, Elgindy, Scamdle and the rest of Jeffies paid little losers, have aleready done so several times, but after the feds looked into me once (information obtained through an FOIA request does tell a lot), and SAW NOTHING wrong, I have never been on their radar again.
So, since you really know nothing about my relationship with ECNC and Jensen, and you are only speaking on your presumption (the same type of brilliant quality presumptions that led you to invest $150K in "dog bites"), and the only ones who have the crystal ball are the feds, and they have taken no action on me (lawsuits, indictments, depositions, subpoenas, etc..), then your statements pan out as those typical of a soused alckie - something we have known you to be all along.
You should really be ticked with Bill forgetting you into that mess in the first place, instead of accepting introductions to the same losers who stole your money and working for their interests. I guess when you can not beat them, you join them, even when that makes you a whhore.
Go ahead, have ANOTHER drink Jimbo. Knowing of your bright future ahead, you are going to need it.
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTMD&read=18778
The he said, he said, battle of words continues!
Oh, yeah, I forgot, tref and crew have been bangin' on Willy Weasel pretty hard, too.
By: IBAFT_2017
04 Apr 2008, 08:19 PM EDT
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So, what is the deal here?
When a person who has provided genuine friendship and in that offer, gets bit like a rabid dog, then it really goes too far. That person acted out of kindness, without any conditions, gets the word from several people now indicating that the borrower is talking major chit that the loan was for a malicious purpose and that the lender is not to be trusted. NOW I HAVE HEARD IT ALL!
Just because you believe that I am every critic on these boards, critics you more than well-deserve, joining "TheBoys" in spreading lies abot me is not a very admirable path to take. Your troubles were brought on by yourself and biting the one hand of kindness that tried to bring you in from out in the rain is a lowly move indeed. So is having knowledge of a hit and saying nothing. UN-F'ING-REAL!
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=GBDX&read=7375
By: IBAFT_2017
04 Apr 2008, 08:29 PM EDT
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Do you morons
think that I am still here because of a mistake? Hmmm.. getting warnings indicating that phone lines (including "drop" prepaid cell phones you idiots), SKYPE chats, PALTALK and emails, are tapped, and people you trusted are in on the dirty deeds and planning, ON ALL DIRTY DEEDS. All info was known in advance and your treachery is not only noted, but the basis for your demise.
Conspiracy to commit -------? So shameful indeed.. especially after truth and kindness was presented to you. I guess you could not come in out of the rain because the hole you dug for yourselves was way too deep.
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=GBDX&read=7378
By: IBAFT_2017
04 Apr 2008, 09:18 PM EDT
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Discoveries of truth always plague men of deceit
and the discoveries that are unfolding are unbelievable. You idiots need to know that Homeland Security DOES monitor drop phones. Going to a 7-11 and paying for a chepo phone is not going to shield you from being heard in this day and age.
So, when you discuss "he is being taking care of" and "delivering the package" and certain locations in question, you only open the door to solicitation and conspiracy, as well as the host of other nightmares already coming your way.
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Well THAT is very interesting.
Somehow Surfit has also gotten himself involved with Houser and BTMD (now BMCS) and has been fighting a subpoena for a deposition by Barnett's attorney.
I can understand slurp avoiding a deposition. He would be a liability under oath and if that deposition was made public, I'm sure it would eventually be in the hands of the SEC.
You may be interested in this old post from Oct. 2002. There was obviously friction between Vince and Turino at this time. Notice this is the about time CBLH was being listed. Could Vince have been confiding in Ed? Was the CMKX promotion being plan also at this time?
Food for thought!
By: call_these_numbers
10 Oct 2002, 12:15 PM EDT Msg. 2235 of 2237
Any one know if A Barnett sold 300 million PCBM shares?
Is the scuttlebutt true? The PCBM short is covering right now? I want to invest but I am very leary about the unsubstanciated scuttlebutt being passed in certain circles.
This is what I am hearing, scuttlebutt wise.
I want to invest in PCBM but I have been burned in penny stocks many times and need answers before I invest here.
I dont mean to be unsupportive, but I can not look at the following supposed speculative suposition in well informed circles, who have not been wrong before. I am hoping they are wrong now so I can invest here in PCBM.
I hear speculation only.
That PCBM is ready to retire 800 million shares of the the 1.2 issued under questionable circumstances.
My question is what happened to the supposed other 400 million shares given to Samulson from the Hawk group, that were restricted and unregistered shares. I am not the smartest in the market, but unregistered and restricted shares should have never been able to be placed in the market?
Call Mr. Samulson and find out if he sold restricted and unregistred shares illegaly.
Phone number 954-786-4773 this is a way to find out if we have been decived, or if it is just supposition.
I am informed that Mr. Turino's attorneys are a Mr. Nesbaum on Wall St in NY! I find this odd, due to the scuttlebutt, that this law firm has represented some of the biggest shorts in NY, and New Jersey. If this is true, and this law firm(imho) is in any way stalling a settlement conference due rumored immediatly. Then Mr Turino and help has some what single handly handed the short back to the short and they were all in on this evil game.
Mr. Nesbaums number is 212-269-1400 I do not hold enough weight to make a difference but I am sure if enough of the investors call and ask him. What is taking so long with you Mr. Nesbaum as Mr. Turinos lawyer, to come to resolution with the Govt., when the Govt. is at the table right now and has been. I also hear very little time is left for Mr. Turinos lawyer to reach resolve, and is in jeporady of wrecking the entire situation now. Now this is just supposition, and not factual yet. Never the less I am concerned.
Now also heard in the scuttlebutt circle is that this short started with Dennis Gordon, who has a brother named Jole story tells. Supposedly Dennis Gordon first shorted(35 million shares of PCBM)his restricted stock through South West(remember that name S West), once Gordon, and his brother learned how South West shorted PCBM through Canada. The two of them knew the ropes, and had no more need for South West, and began shorting PCBM on there own.
By doing so, bought PCBM to the world class short it is as the supposed story gos.
Call Dennis Gordon and ask him if this is true 218-556-0576
If the company has 800 million shares of the 1.2 which supposedly need to be retired. The remaining 400 million of restricted, and unregistered supposedly are with the Hawk group. Why don't they just cancle R Samules cert, since he supposedly placed restricted, and unregistered stock in the market illegaly?
Scuttlebutt also says A broke person named Adam Bernett(so broke he sold his corvette) sold 2-3 hundred million shares of PCBM over the last couple of weeks so scuttlebutt says! How could a broke person sell 2-3 hundred million shares of PCBM?
Could this person Adam Bernett be Roy Samules beard account, just guessing?
Call Adam Barnett 305-992-0132,and ask him your self why is he screwing this stock, and what connection he has to Roy Samules as well as Mr. Turino? Speculation only but these are questions that need to be answered, before I invest here, other wise this is a suckers play.
Scuttlebutt has it Roy Samules was 400 million shares short.
Is it not interesting supposedly Adam Barnett sold 2-3 hundred million shares of PCBM in the las couple of weeks, it is to me? Supposition again of course.
Now this is my big concern, supposition has it that!
South West(Gordons original shorted Canadian Broker) set Mr. Locastro up, by having Mr. Roy Learman quote a $4 opening price on the AMEX, then when the pressure for confirmation of the qouted opening price of All Pro on the AMEX form Mr. Roy Learman was sought by regulators, Mr. Roy Learman backed out and would not stand behind his quote! Supposition only of course.
Now this next piece of information any one can verify, is that Mr. Roy Learman is the South West Broker(Gordons original short) on the American Exchange. supposition only.
Follow me closely, why did Gordons short start with South West?
Why did South West Quote a opening price for All Pro on the AMEX, then back out(Roy Learman)
Why did South West ask Morgan to file a 15c211 on CBLH?
Supoposedly Morgan ask the NASTY to list CBLH. supposition only.
Why did South West,(Gordon,Turino,Adan Barnett,Roy Learman) all lead Mr. Lo Castro into a trap, which he knew nothing about?
Was it done to give the short to the short, and guarantee the select few would make millions of dollars, while screwing poor innocent investors!
These are my concerns here, and I personaly feel that if Mr. Turinos lawyers dont hussle to the table to talk to the willing regulators!
We all have been screwed by these white collar crooks!
My opinion is based on my research only, but I will be calling Mr. Turinos lawyers today, and asking what the hold up is, I suggest those concerned about there investment here might want to do the same. 212-269-1400 I personaly feel those of you here until these things are explained are in serious jepapordy of losing it all unfortunatly!
Call Mr Turino and ask for your self as well 813-505-0287 cell. Office 727-669-7781
I will take a very small position for 10 million shares until I get answers, I have been burned on to many penny scams!
Stock Patrole supposedly is heavely tied to Adam Barnett.
Remember these are only scuttlebutt rumors, but funny how S West is at the center, as well as A Barnett.
Indepentatly my opinion only is expressed here!
I was incorrect, but right about the artist.
By: Zachjos930
12 Feb 2003, 09:49 PM EST Msg. 905053 of 905057
From the Desk of
http://www.symphonyofart.com/reference.htm
Mary Turino
3140 Masters Drive
Clearwater, FL 33761
(727) 784-3087
From the Desk of
Mary Turino
3140 Masters Drive
Clearwater, FL 33761
(727) 784-3087
December 18, 2000
To Whom It May Concern:
It is with great pleasure that I recommend the artwork of Marc De Waele. Mr. De Waele has completed three wall murals for our newly purchased home of 10,000 square feet. These murals were oil painted picture of Venice, Italy approximate sizes, 8 feet X 12 feet, 16 feet X l2feet and in my foyer 30 feet by 30 feet.
Also, I commissioned six portraits of my family, which he included in the largest mural. Words cannot describe the elegance and beauty of Mr. De Waele?s work. The pictures of my children are wonderful. I have searched for quite sometime to find someone of this caliber and quality to create this masterpiece for my home.
In my foyer, Mr. De Waele painted two oil paintings of ?Angels in the Fountains?, of which be entirely designed and painted. We are very happy with these works. They represent the feeling I wanted as guests enter my home.
As Mr. De Waele worked in my home, I was so impressed with his portfolio, that I requested additional work. Mr. De Waele currently is refinishing two chest od drawers and two end tables in a finish called polychrome. This has transformed my old pieces of furniture into beautiful artwork.
He is extremely talented and includes faux marble painting with great creativity. Mr. De Waele is extremely dependable and trustworthy. I gave him the key to my home and trusted him entirely to complete the job on a timely manner. He always arrived on time and called to make appointments. He has worked in my home almost daily since October 1, 2000. I am very satisfied with all of my dealings with him. I might also add, he is very fair and honest with his prices and quality of work.
Feel free to contact me regarding Mr. De Waele?s work performance.
Sincerely,
Mary Turino
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I remember watching Lesley Stahl's 60 minutes segment and thinking, they are such tools falling for this baloney!
I wonder how many "comments" that story will get from CMKXers. If they ever find it...
Not to worry, we have the SEC comments to entertain us. djzzzz said she will be entering her comments before the May deadline. Let's see if we can spot it.
Where is the SEC Treffry rant? I guess he must post it a dozen more times on the message boards before he graces the SEC with his opinion of them.
i wonder who gets that Italian Mural in the hallway we all saw pictures of? Or was that Bruce Hall that had that?
I believe it was Vinnie the Torch and Kimmie. The mural artist was of coarse....... a Belgium! LOL
Worse yet, there was a rumor on RB last week that Frizz's function was being turned over to porky.
LOL Anyone know of a RB rumor that ever came true? The Frizzell wannabe has been taunting AB on the OMOG board about a lawsuit he intends to file. Those posts have since been deleted. Someone who claimed to be posting from his office was also posting about it on that board.
BTW, I have never seen a lawyer do this before. Maybe the jury will be selected from the message boards, too.
By: carmelbeach
26 Mar 2008, 11:02 PM EDT
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Any Update On Treffry's Lawsuit?
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By: mclt_jing
11 Jan 2008, 12:18 PM EST
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Any shareholders want to organize and sue?
I believe that the repeated 1-1000 R/S, coupled with the massive dumping by the CEO, amount to fiduciary abuse. The s/h should want to sue this guy? Are you all game?
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By: mclt_jing
12 Jan 2008, 01:01 AM EST
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LAWSUIT AGAINST ADAM - any takers?
I believe he has done the sh wrong. We should light him up!
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By: mclt_jing
12 Jan 2008, 02:13 AM EST
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Actually Adam
Treffry told me he would go after you for free. More news to follow, but I have already had about 12 shareholders contact me within the last couple hours.
It looks like we will see you in court sweetie! hehehe..
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By: mclt_jing
12 Jan 2008, 11:42 AM EST
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S/H, don't sue OMOG, just Adam personally
then if and when he dumps shares to pay for fees, you can nail him again for comingling.
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By: mclt_jing
14 Jan 2008, 04:27 PM EST
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We will see when the action gets filed
from my understanding, there are dozens of people lining up to be the lead plaintiff.
I guess Adam is very popular now-a-days, not just with the feds either! =)
The question remains, will the lawsuits merely be civil in nature? Inquiring minds want to know. Hopefully, the result of all the SEC's work will not merely be more slaps on the wrist and fines amounting to 1/10000th the take. If it is, I will openly give up on America!
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By: mclt_jing
14 Jan 2008, 06:48 PM EST
Msg. 231342 of 231358
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How would they know?
Because a couple shareholders on these boards are both OMOG investors and are personal friends. They have several other contacts who got chumped by Mr. Barnett and they have contacted me (and or Treffry) to see if Treffry will be their lawyer.
Does that help you, my dense friend? You see, stupid people can only see what their eyes can see and have no problem-solving skills of their own. Coupled with mindless arrogance, stupid people like you are pretty much the bottom of the dungheap, basically the dregs of society for which Ben Franklin addressed when he spoke of you knuckleheads and said, "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest."
So tell me, how are you handling that pearl of wisdom from one of the mosty celebrated minds in our history, my "brainless fool" of a friend?
60 Minutes Blows Biovail Story
SEC sues drug maker Lesley Stahl defended
By Dean Starkman
Wed 26 Mar 2008 11:08 PM
http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/do_not_post_biovail.php
The Securities and Exchange Commission sued a Canadian drug maker this week—and in the process blew apart the premise of a two-year-old 60 Minutes investigative piece on short sellers.
The March 2006 segment by Lesley Stahl sought to warn viewers about hedge funds that use bad information to drive down stock prices to benefit themselves at small investors’ expense.
To make its point, 60 Minutes focused on a lawsuit brought by Biovail Corp., of Toronto, which accused the big hedge-fund SAC Capital, of Stamford, Connecticut, and a stock-research firm of conspiring to spread bogus information about the company.
As the 60 Minutes announcer said:
If you have money in a retirement account or a pension fund, pay attention, because, as correspondent Lesley Stahl reports, hedge funds have become a major force in the market. When they make a move or “take a position,” as they say, it can affect your bottom line.
In this case, one of the largest companies in Canada is claiming that the hedge fund SAC was trying to make a killing by killing the company.
On Monday, though, the SEC sued not the targets of the 60 Minutes piece, but Biovail itself and two of its executives, alleging accounting fraud and other wrongdoing. The SEC said the drug maker “repeatedly overstated earnings and hid losses in order to deceive investors” and “actively misled investors and analysts about the reasons for the company’s poor performance.”
Biovail settled the case and agreed to pay $10 million in penalties without admitting or denying the allegations.
The SEC charges against Biovail effectively torpedo the Stahl piece, which was devoted to airing the drug maker’s allegations that the stock-research firm, a predecessor of Gradient Analytics, concocted phony research to please SAC, a client.
In fact, the danger to investors was Biovail. So, 60 Minutes had it exactly wrong. But it’s worse than that: Biovail had been under SEC investigation since 2003. So it was clear at the time that Biovail was probably not a good example of a public company victimized by shorts. In fact, it was more likely that the Biovail example would prove the value of shorts, as it has.
The 60 Minutes segment acknowledged that its alleged victim was under investigation, but buried the information artfully in the middle of a denial of wrongdoing by the hedge fund.
Here it is. The emphasis is mine:
The hedge fund SAC denies all the charges in Biovail’s lawsuit and says that the decline in the company’s stock was due to earnings shortfalls and investigations by authorities, including the Securities and Exchange Commission, “not any conspiracy.”
Confused? I think you’re supposed to be.
This is not a detail. The ongoing SEC probe of Biovail called into question—from the start—the main pillar supporting the 60 Minutes story about supposedly rogue hedge funds.
The network had good reason to believe that the bad apple in its piece was Biovail, but went forward anyway.
A spokeswoman for Stahl said she was too busy to respond to questions from
CJR. A spokesman for 60 Minutes said in an email:
Biovail’s settlement of these SEC charges does not change our story, which was about how giant, unregulated hedge funds can leverage their power in the stock market.”
A spokesman for Biovail says the company continues to pursue its claims against SAC and Gradient.
An SAC spokesman declined to comment.
Gradient, for its part, issued a triumphant press release:
The SEC’s complaint confirms the validity of Gradient’s critical analysis of Biovail but raises serious questions about how companies retaliate against analysts with threats, intimidation, and lawsuits.
The Scottsdale, Arizona, company noted that the chief of the SEC’s New York office, Mark Schonfeld, credited analysts who raised questions about Biovail.
“Part of the credit does go to people who were asking a lot of questions and were rightfully skeptical when the company was making representations that just didn’t quite make sense,” said Schonfeld in a CNBC interview.
The 60 Minutes saga is as part of a long-running and venomous fight pitting a few, mostly smaller, public companies on one side and short sellers, research firms and financial journalists on the other. The companies contend that shorts routinely manipulate markets using unethical stock-research firms and financial journalists, who the companies claim are incompetent or worse.
The piece featured an interview with the Biovail chief executive:
“When you’ve got these companies, these people out there trying to bring you down, we’re lucky we survived,” says Eugene Melnyk, the CEO of Biovail, the Canadian pharmaceutical company that’s suing the hedge fund SAC, and others.
“There’s a group of people that got together and essentially attacked the company by putting out false reports,” says Melnyk. “And we’re just fighting back for our shareholders.”
“Is your allegation that SAC made up a lot of this stuff in order to depress the stock so they could sell it short?” Stahl asked.
“That’s what’s alleged in the complaint,” he replied.
The piece includes interviews with ex-Gradient employees, one of whom calls the research firm a “shop for hire.” Another ex-employee alleges that Gradient analysts took down SAC’s allegations against Biovail like “dictation.”
Of Gradient’s work, the piece says:
The report was replete with comments like this: “history of unusual … aggressive accounting;” “earnings overstated;” “severely negative free-cash flow.”
Of course, it turns out, Gradient was right.
The segment included interviews with former Gradient employees Demitri Anifantis and Darryl Smith, who bring in the media:
“Did the Biovail report go to anybody outside of your client circle?” Stahl asked Anifantis.
“Yes, media. A lot of media outlets had access to the service as well,” he replied.
“So, in other words, Camelback was trying to generate this publicity… that further helped SAC,” Stahl asked.
“Sure, sure,” Smith said.
The Stahl piece rankled many financial journalists who found it deeply ignorant, particularly for the way it characterized short sellers—who are a vital counterpoint to the Wall Street hype machine—as somehow bad by definition. Reporters also felt the story tarred by implication the journalists who use them as sources.
Indeed, the 60 Minutes piece was doubly frustrating because the work of exposing corporate frauds is already difficult and thankless enough.
Joe Nocera of The New York Times nicely summed up this sentiment a few days after the broadcast:
The silliest idea embedded in both the Biovail lawsuit and the 60 Minutes segment is that because an analyst, a short seller, a research firm, and even a reporter are talking with one another—and perhaps even collaborating—that they are somehow engaged in stock manipulation. This is what people do in markets all the time, on the long and short sides. When you have a big position in a stock, you want to persuade others to your point of view. You make your case in phone calls, or at conferences, or over drinks. You try to get reporters to write articles reflecting your views. If you can get others to agree with you, and either buy or sell because they are persuaded by your logic, that is good for both you and the market.
In some ways, the process is even more important for a short seller because his point of view is invariably a minority one. In early 2001, when the short seller James Chanos became convinced that there was something amiss at Enron, he didn’t keep that information to himself. He spoke to Bethany McLean, the Fortune reporter who then wrote her famous story, “Is Enron Overpriced?” And he presented his views about Enron at his annual Bears in Hibernation conference. One of those attending was Mark Roberts, a newsletter writer who then wrote a tough report on Enron. According to a witness in the Enron trial, that is the report that caused Jeffrey K. Skilling, the chief executive, to exclaim, “They’re on to us.”
The short-versus-public-company fracas peaked in May 2006, a few months after the Stahl piece. The SEC, which was probing Gradient because of the corporate complaints, subpoenaed three financial reporters—Herb Greenberg of Marketwatch, Jim Cramer of TheStreet.com (and CNBC’s Mad Money show) and Carol Remond of Dow Jones Newswires—sparking an uproar. Journalists and their supporters argued that SEC probe infringed on reporters’ First Amendment rights and chilled tough reporting.
The SEC later dropped the subpoenas and backed away from the idea of subpoenaing reporters altogether.
The SEC dropped its Gradient probe last year.
As it turns out, SAC and Gradient were doing investors a favor. Biovail traded around $24 a share when the Stahl piece ran. Now’s it under $11, a drop of 55 percent, including nine percent on news of the SEC settlement. Dow Jones provides this two-year chart:
One can only hope 60 Minutes viewers listened to the shorts and not 60 Minutes.
But the ongoing SEC probe of Biovail was always going to be a time bomb under this story.
This week, it blew up.
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Jimmy. Watch it, or no more Basher Copter for you.
Kingpin grounds jimmy? What's next? Send him to bed without his portion of bacon wrap shirmps, or a bunk beside Tor?
Ticker starts with a G. The guy who claimed he'd bought the entire float wasn't the CEO, either, though he was in some way an insider.
You are correct. The stock was Global Links Corp.(GLKC/E). Two people actually claim to have brought the float. When one of them (another stinky pinky CEO) wanted to take over the company on this claim, Brewer found himself in a pickle and did some backtracking.
Since that time the company has done what they do best, Reverse Split their shareholders into oblivion. Senator Bennett has never uttered the name of Global Links since!
GLCP - Global Links Corp. Reverse Split History
Symbol Split Ratio Date
GLLK 1:2000 R/S 1/8/2008.
GLLC 1:300 R/S 02/23/2007
GLKC name change FS 04/10/2006
GOBC 1:350 R/S 02/01/2005
GBLL 1:350 R/S 10/08/2004
GLNK 1:40 R/S 04/16/2003
UTDT 1:8 R/S 12/21/2001
His biggest problem is he just cannot remember which lie he told to whom or when he told it.
True!
His behavior is pathetic. I posted this a few weeks ago about his antics and he is still at it. A 12 year old trapped in a middle age mans body.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27682458
3 o'clock in the morning a PCBM shareholder receives a phone call. It is Surfit and All*n. He claims they hassle him, and start singing to him like a couple of drunks. All*n apologizes to the shareholder years later for his behavior that night.
He posted this several times yesterday on two different boards.
By: ibaft_2016
30 Mar 2008, 06:26 PM EDT
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Jerka, the red nosed drunkard
had a very shiny nose,
And if you ever saw him,
You would even say it glows.
All of the other drunkards,
Used to laugh and call him names,
They never let poor Jerka,
Play in any drunkards' games.
Then one time at Christmas Eve,
A bartender came to say,
Jerka with your nose so bright,
Won't you light my bar tonight?
Jerka then went and did it,
Standing in the window bright,
He lit the way for boozers,
To drink and get red noses too that night.
So then little Jerka said,
"hey there, what about me?"
The bartender came with bottle in hand,
Shoved it up Jerka's azz and kicked him off his land.
So little poor boy Jerka,
Had a moment in life of fame,
He then went to work for Turdino,
And now he posts on RB real lame!
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By: ibaft_2016
30 Mar 2008, 06:45 PM EDT
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Jerka, the red nosed drunkard
had a very shiny nose,
And if you ever saw him,
You would even say it glows.
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By: ibaft_2016
30 Mar 2008, 06:33 PM EDT
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Jerka, the red nosed drunkard
had a very shiny nose,
And if you ever saw him,
You would even say it glows.
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Mr. Brain Fart does it once again!
Yuk...Sounds like treffys goiter sheesh
A week or so ago, I asked Janice a rhetorical question about how she knew All*n represented Chris Jens*n in his deposition. Janice replied because he posted about it on the message boards. Now All*n wants to know how Jarta knew the details about Turino sending thugs over to his home and scared the heck out of his wife. I'll tell you how! The same way I and many others knew. Because Mr. Brain Fart was ranting on and on about it on the message boards!!!!!
This is exactly why so many people are compelled to archive his posting history.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27684027
And who's the "client" to which he refers? Chris Jensen? We know that All*n represented him at at least one deposition
taken in connection with the CMKX case.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27685656
Janice, exactly how did you discover that information?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27686977
lol, I knew that because the moron POSTED about it.
By: jarta
30 Mar 2008, 04:41 PM EDT
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Treffles, ... How the hell are you!
Yes, I know what subornation of perjury is. But, how does it apply to me? Why (out of the blue) drag me in to verify that you weren't asleep continually throughout law school? Isn't Barnett's attorney, not me, the one Houser is accusing of subornation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subornation_of_perjury
I would think that a guy like you who was a toxic pumper with Ed, associated with Turino and the boyz (until they threatened your wife in an attempt to send you a message to leave Ed alone) and ended up being Jensen's attorney and PR man in ECNC (for which Jensen steered "free" CMKX certificates to you, and Ed's squeeze and Yarter) would be a lot more scared than I need be. But, maybe you ratted on all of them in return for immunity. Who knows? Saving your fat azz is all you've ever cared about!
You see, Treffles, Jensen and Turino are not very popular people here. And, you are the only person, except for Houser, who has/had verifiable ties to them.
Jealous that you can't afford my life style or success in litigation? Go back to the house closings, doofus! ... eom
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By: ibaft_2016
30 Mar 2008, 05:19 PM EDT
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Gee Jerka - how did you know
that the visit to my house included comments about "until they threatened your wife in an attempt to send you a message to leave Ed alone?" How could you know such details? Never once was such a comment made to any person except the feds. Interesting assertion for someone who allegedly had nothing to do with the visit to my house. The Feds are going to love this one. I tell you Forrest, "stupid is as stupid does" - huh? "Run Forrest.. errr Jerka, run!"
Whatever ties to whatever people you discuss are not merely what appears in a public document, it goes to phone records, emails, bank accounts and stock transfers - YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? Hehehehe....
Jealous of Jerka! =) Yes, you are right - I want to be a perpetually schnockered and balding ferret whose identity crisis extends to believing that he can drink so much JD that he can have a shiny nose and replace Rudolph on Christmas eve.!
Hehehe.. my bets are still on round two! Hehehehe...
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BTW, can sonebody tell me when Brain damage ever gave an honest update?
BD's and Mark's posting on the message boards provides much needed, and very obvious free promotional advertisement, imo.
Folks should drool and be grateful that they even bother to stoop to this level of communication.
Dirty joke... not Urbie at all.
http://www.explorationgis.com/contact.html
Ah! Thank you. My suspicion was aroused, so I went to a capable source. grin ;)
Someone is gonna get in a lot of hot water over that.
Not a funny April Fools Day prank on Barbara & Phil, imo.
Do you personally know, or have spoken to the Casavants?
I live in Las Vgas and see him once in a while and his brother Ron owns property here.
Why isn't he being arrested.
Look how long it took before they got to Ken Lay. I believe he knew sooner or later that he was their main target.
must not be any evidence of wrong doing.
Then why are several Fed agencies investigating this? BTW, West and the crew do have evidence of wrong doing. So do the Canadians.
Maybe not absolutely at the outset, but certainly long before the book is about to go to press.
He's been writing this book for a few years now. I find fault with them taking money from the shareholders from the time they announced their intentions. Geez, it's just a book about a penny stock scam, not the next Noble Prize for Literature.
Why do they need photos at all? oops I guess they do with this crowd.
getting "image rights" isn't exactly a problem; it's just that it can be extremely expensive
Don't you work that out far in advance? Again, they screwed up on the Buddy Holly image rights also.
Amateurs!
By definition, galleys aren't fully "formatted". You have to wait for page proof for that.
I thought it was a BS excuse. The content of THIS book is way more important than the way it looks. It's not a work of art, after all. As for image rights, they seem to be totally inept about them. They have the same problem with the Buddy Holly fiasco.
But I guess we're dealing with total amateurs here.
On every level, imo.
Edit: Anyone know the retail price on this great masterpiece?
Snicker, and get caught the way Eliot Spitzer got caught.
Good point! lol
The Casavants rip 'em off, and some of the rippees are actually gonna send them MONEY?
It's a cult, and Urban is their God.