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By: leowanta
08 Jul 2008, 03:00 PM EDT
Msg. 740278 of 740457
For Chairman, CMKM, i nominate mquietstorm3!
most successful businessman....is mquietstorm3 here, he gets my vote
leowanta
RedWings were going to sign Marian Hossa
Is this guy as big a deal as my Octopus twirling friend thinks?
Good grief!!!
Hossa had something like 10 teams salivating to sign him. He turned down more lucrative offers to sign a one year contract with the Red Wings. He was offered a long term deal with the Pens, whom he loved playing with, but said he wants to win the Cup and thought he had a better chance going back to the Stan next year with the Red Wings. As difficult as it is to win back to back Stanley Cups, Hossa could quite possibly help them repeat. He's THAT GOOD!
BTW, the Rangers just let Jaromir Jagr go and there are rumors about that he may be interested in the new Russian league for big bucks. They are funded by the big oil companies and said to be willing to butt heads with the NHL for marquee players. It should be interesting watching this play out in the next couple of years.
1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
I can't imagine who would trust All*n with his or her personal info
Perhaps some Good Samaritan will spend the weekend posting all the times he has threaten to sue people on RB. It will be time consuming, though. lol
More comedy!
By: reality.bytes
14 Jun 2008, 12:09 AM EDT
Msg. 731998 of 731999
HELP ME!!! I just got a call from my bank saying some fatboy in Long Beach pretending to be a lawyer tried to use my credit card number.
OMG!!!!!!!!
By: ctla_4_me
14 Jun 2008, 12:11 AM EDT
Msg. 731999 of 732000
(This msg. is a reply to 731982 by spudey.)
I want a grand poobah hat
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1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
Drillbit's crazy as a coot.
This is the first time I have ever agreed with DB. I also would love to see a list of who gave All*n their personal information. I'm guessing it will be exclusively the old ECNC/PCBM crowd and perhaps he'll draw in one or two Xers.
1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
Unfortunately the Xers aren't so good at recognizing "crazy".
Maybe, maybe not.
ROFL
By: DrillBit
13 Jun 2008, 11:36 PM EDT
Msg. 731995 of 731996
(This msg. is a reply to 731988 by ravenpeach1.)
I wonder if he requires my bank account number and credit card information. I think the man is a wee bit delusional. BUT, I would be interested in the list of those that comply.
Eureka! We're in for some hilarious weekend comedy!
By: reality.bytes
13 Jun 2008, 11:34 PM EDT
Msg. 731994 of 731994
(This msg. is a reply to 731982 by spudey.)
count me in, Treffry. I just sent the fake lawyer my real name and address, my utility bill, my verified and notarized IP address and, as a bonus, threw in the numbers and expiration date for all of my credit cards.
Patiently awaiting astonishment in CMKX Action Room.
Sincerely,
your pal,
reality.bytes LLC. Boiler-Room
that the Administrator is crazy as a bedbug
Yep
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?last=Treffry&first=Allan
I find it quite telling that All*n is quite specific that any government agencies/people are very unwelcome.
Ditto
Is Treffry a wackjob or what? you be the judge
ROFL
You know what is so ironic? He would whine like a baby on RB about how the girls on PalTalk picked on him and censored him for speaking his mind. He called them Nazi's. Who's playing the role of Big Brother now?
I wonder if he will have that dope McCurdy be one of his "Room" thugs? McCurdy was quick to bounce folks out of PalTalk rooms once before, so he could be a likely candidate.
Nice to see some folks using their brains. Maybe the age of guru is near an end?
By: ravenpeach1
13 Jun 2008, 10:01 PM EDT
Msg. 731988 of 731991
(This msg. is a reply to 731982 by spudey.)
Spudey.... you are making that up right? A contract to be in a Paltalk room...... I would never belong to a group that I don't know the agenda..... because that in itself could be a very big problem....
Besides.... I believe in this investment, to make us whole.....
If I didn't, I would move on.....
But good luck.....
God Bless and thank you for sharing that with me so I know.....
Ravenpeach
By: mkaykay0
13 Jun 2008, 10:49 PM EDT
Msg. 731991 of 731991
(This msg. is a reply to 731982 by spudey.)
Give out personal information to join a room? I don't think so! First thing you know it would be posted right here.
ric, thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to post the direct quote from the book.
Does the book reveal a time frame when Kevin had this discussion with Urban?
I recall a poster on RB who claimed he was about to file a lawsuit against CMKX. I believed his name was Harrison?. Every time he posted on RB about his intentions he was attacked and mocked by Urban's fan club. He suddenly vanished and some rumors surfaced that he was paid off.
Gene Hurd's lawsuit followed, and again it was criticized on the message boards as being anti-CMKX.
TIA
This is interesting.....
By: reality.bytes
13 Jun 2008, 05:36 PM EDT
Msg. 731931 of 731952
(This msg. is a reply to 731925 by nufced.)
nufced is this true? can you confirm or deny this? since you have the book?
"The Naked Truth" and there is a paragraph on pg 276 which tells of KEVIN WEST's conversation with Urban Casavant. In this conversation KW told UC , that he has certain people on the boards he can use to try to delay any lawsuits..."
tia
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=731931
By: nufced
13 Jun 2008, 05:38 PM EDT
Msg. 731933 of 731953
(This msg. is a reply to 731931 by reality.bytes.)
yes. want me to scan and email you the entire quotation?
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http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=731933
Helen Bagleys Response
By: nufced
13 Jun 2008, 01:57 PM EDT
Msg. 731858 of 731952
Helen Bagleys Response http://www.zshare.net/download/13564222a2ce74d3/
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http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=731858
they would defect to Russia
djzzz's neighbor IS a FBI agent. LOL
You can't get entertainment like this anywhere..and its FREE!!
LOL It's a bizarre soap opera. Just when you think the story is becoming stale and want to tune out, the writers come up with new material. Today the cast on the Zoo board have been endlessly arguing with each other and name calling. djzzzz is turning against her guru, casper. Mona claims she is closing down her PT room again, which is really a plea for the sheep to send her more money.
Oh, what a world!
The tide is turning. TEX is just one of the many who want to initiate some sort of legal action. You know All*n is on the prowl, and now agoodbadgirl wants to hire Trust & Estates attorneys to go after the money the Gov. snatch away from the shareholders. Gosh, I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that discussion!
I knew it was just a matter of time before the Xers completely flipped out.
By: jboydwv
12 Jun 2008, 01:31 PM EDT
Msg. 731514 of 731556
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Interesting ....
Peeps rising up:
By: bobhwang
11 Jun 2008, 07:19 PM EDT
Msg. 32310 of 32341
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urban you're no meat loaf:
2 out of 3 for me... you gonna fail me, won't wait much longer, july 15th your time up...
oil gold but no rocks
I have also been informed that several groups are currently organizing to pursue the facts of CMKX. And I am here today to inform you that I am one of them. My patience with the mysteriously informed in this stock has come to an end.
I will authorize my attorneys this week to pursue legal action against Mr. Stelma. Over the next week or so, we will be gathering information necessary to ensure the success of that action. Our intent is to obtain facts from Mr. Stelma regarding his involvement in CMKX activities, particularly regarding his alleged employment with CMKX related entity(s) and his knowledge of purported trusts and payouts to shareholders.
Where these trails will lead is unknown. Yet I am quite confident that information obtained under oath from Mr. Stelma will, at minimum, go far beyond his small circle of CMKX influence.
Never in my 35 year career as a CPA, have I seen a group, myself included, so mesmerized by the antics of one individual. And I have experienced some very nefarious characters over that period. It is past time to find clarity and transparency in this “investment of a lifetime”!
http://cmkxunofficial.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=2243
1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
Fizzle draws my scorn for feigning a level of securities law expertise that he clearly does not have
Exactly! He should have told them from the start they needed a good securities lawyer to deal with their issues. Frizzle, Martin, West, the TOGI etc. had other conflicting agendas, imo.
GARY WALTER'S SENTENCES
By: carmelbeach
11 Jun 2008, 04:39 PM EDT
Msg. 158572 of 158572
(This msg. is a reply to 158571 by abreva.)
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GARY WALTER'S SENTENCES
Perhaps it's best if everyone interested sees the info at the website.
Start here and work your way to the case and then the 'sentencing' page
http://courtgate.coca.co.clark.nv.us/DistrictCourt/asp/SearchPartyOptions.asp
As you can see on the sentencing page there is a template with info placed in various boxes. This kind of page does not copy/paste well so I am going to reformat the material to attempt to make it intelligible here.
Case 05-C-217569-C
Just Ct. Case# 05-GJ-00153
Status ACTIVE
Plaintiff State of Nevada
Attorney Roger, David J.
Defendant Walters, Gary
Attorney Weatherford, Robert W.
Judge Villani, Michael
Dept. 17
Defendant Walters, Gary
Id Number 1695384
He was convicted on 17 counts
Count 001
Charge 205.090
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED 95 Days
RESTITUTION $617,249.00
DNA FEE/GENETIC MARKERS ANALYSIS $150.00
ADMINISTRATION FEE $25.00
Count 0002
Charge 205.090
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0001 Sentence 0001
Count 0003
Charge 239.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Consecutive with Charge 0003 Sentence 0001
Count 0004
Charge 205.090
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Consecutive with Charge 0003 Sentence 0001
Count 0005
Charge 205.090
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Consecutive with Charge 0003 Sentence 0001
Count 0006
Charge 239.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0005 Sentence 0001
Count 0008
Charge 193.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0009
Charge 205.090
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0010
Charge 239.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0011
Charge 193.330
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0012
Charge 205.0832
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0013
Charge 205.0832
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0014
Charge 205.0832
Minimum 48 Months
Maximum 120 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0024 Sentence 0001
Count 0015
Charge 205.090
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Count 0016
Charge 239.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0028 Sentence 0001
Count 0017
Charge 193.330
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0028 Sentence 0001
Count 0018
Charge 205.090
Minimum 16 Months
Maximum 48 Months
Nevada State Prison
Concurrent with Charge 0028 Sentence 0001
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=NNGB&read=158572
Q for the board: why is there so much activity on this board
I'm monitoring the unseen world of the evil illuminati who hired their best witches (electrified) to cast a spell on Urban and CMKX. So far the illuminati are winning the battle.
By: leowanta
09 Jun 2008, 05:16 PM EDT
Msg. 730444 of 731333
(This msg. is a reply to 730438 by ÿinvalid_sender.)
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that's because the non-shareholders don't know the truth of what really has been going on and therefore; they don't believe we will get paid....o'contaire
i guess that's why they sold......they just don't believe (to "dull" to understand) the unseen world exists...as you well know. the illuminati uses the unseen world to do their corruption....covertly...but then they don't believe in the illuminati either...so there you go non-shareholders...i tell you the truth Leo Wanta does exist, 6.8 trillion is belonging to Leo Wanta and the illuminati has put their best witches to the task of ending Leo Wanta and have failed time an again...because Leo Wanta is protected by the Lord and nobody can snatch Leo from the hand of God.....Leo Wanta has a purpose and it's not CMKX, it's much bigger than CMKX...and it isn't over when payment arrives...it's the beginning of the end of the old world....hopefully the sea ice will begin to reform...which will be a solid signal that the world is on the mend....
leowanta
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=730444
I'm thinking the gurus that lie to them for the past couple of years, and some that sold them shares after revocation. Being scammed once smarts, but being scammed over again makes you feel like a stupid fool that was used and abused.
Well, let's hope they go postal on each other, at least.
1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
ROFL
Is he sporting a plastic butt, too?
1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
Tuscan is one of those posters who really creep me out. Her delusions are so in depth and detailed. She is high on the list of posters who will go postal, imo.
I love the statement Mr. Maheu made that 'he would talk to his shareholders in unconventional means'
Ouija boards?
What's scary is that by now a great many of them really ARE mentally ill.
I know. I had to take a break from reading the board because they started believing in acca's nonsense again. Acca, jay, and others have messed with their minds so badly some of them are beyond hope.
Of coarse you're right about that.
She won't be disappointed because she'll never stop believing it'll happen..
I got a hardly laugh today courtesy the of the "natural lawyer". She's fantasizing again about nufced. Maybe we'll get another Electric Witch story soon. Crossing my fingers! LOL
By: leowanta
10 Jun 2008, 11:38 AM EDT
Msg. 730911 of 731104
(This msg. is a reply to 730649 by lilburrito0.)
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lilburrito0 an apology is due to silverbulletny1...
and yes WE ARE GOING TO GET PAID....
as for you and your parasite, nufced.....probably not!
have a nice life
leowanta
By: leowanta
10 Jun 2008, 11:53 AM EDT
Msg. 730915 of 731104
(This msg. is a reply to 730887 by whyme176.)
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yes and let's not forget, the SEC controls what the company says at all times....tyler doesn't know what is going on with the real company...tyler was given a shell...tyler wanted to takeover the company ...og figured they had controlling shares....sadly they found out those shares were unregistered and had no vote at all...
nufced and pedro are searching the internet trying to figure out what is going on....both are latched onto frizzell like he knows the deal...they come on this board like they have some great info to discourage us with, when all along they are just wannbe's with garbage info...useless since frizzell doesn't have a clue in the first place. that is intentional isn't it...since the SEC isn't putting anything on the internet, not even their site about CMKM Diamonds that is negative toward their regulatory powers....note our original hearing May 2005 has been deleted from sec website ...so you understand, what's out their for nufced and pedro to google isn't the real story....
i think pedro and nufced should return to their homeboard...pb666 where they belong.....nufced for certain my be looking at RICO..pump and bashing this stock...manipulating this security...she is in trouble and doesn't even realize it, it appears since she continues to post here like she knows something important...what a joke.
leowanta
By: leowanta
10 Jun 2008, 06:32 PM EDT
Msg. 731043 of 731109
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libel post
By: sharasilva
10 Jun 2008, 05:38 PM EDT
Msg. 731041 of 731042
(This msg. is a reply to 731039 by burger-n-fries.)
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Leo, the DTCC insurance won't help you. You need medical incurance that covers delusional psycosis
By: leowanta
10 Jun 2008, 06:33 PM EDT
Msg. 731044 of 731109
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libel post
By: burger-n-fries
10 Jun 2008, 05:28 PM EDT
Msg. 731039 of 731043
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Leo, you moron, the DTCC's insurance covers them in the event of a member going broke. It has nothing to do with your delusional naked short.
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1:54 AM) very_tired1: THe SEC is not gong after Urban.. in my opinion.. I listened to depositions about Edwards, Harlan and others.. Urban's name came up but they hardly touched him
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20519.ht
She is another who will be disappointed soon by the phantom payout. Ironic that IF there is any money to be collected and paid out it will most likely come from the SEC that she so passionately hates.
God. SBG will never change.
By: silverbulletny1
09 Jun 2008, 06:25 PM EDT
Msg. 1180484 of 1180491
(This msg. is a reply to 1180482 by ezaltheladiespa.)
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ezal notice this date?
Privacy Policy:
March 1, 2008
interesting 3 months ago, also maybe they are getting ready to finally pay us and now they have a website for the un-shareholders.
Didn't Richard Altimore from USXP end up in jail for crying naked short while he dumped 20 billion shares on the investing public?
Oddly enough Captain Fluffy is in jail for contempt of court. One month and counting.
And Maheu is gone.........
Iron Bob abandon ship when it started sinking, but you'll never convince the "true longs".
By: silverbulletny1
10 Jun 2008, 12:31 AM EDT
Msg. 730811 of 731101
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HOW DARE YOU'S THINK U CAN BEAT ROBERT MAHEU!! THAT WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR "BIGGEST MISTAKE" YOU EVER MADE IN YOUR SORRY ARSE LIVES. KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..............
Our Efforts Begin with Awareness
Awareness efforts should have began in earnest before Urban spent shareholders money on booze, women, gambling and funny cars. Now it is up to the SEC with the aid of taxpayers money to try and recover any funds that may be left.
jimmy, I thought you gave up idolizing lawyers who get involved with penny stocks, or was that just for Lent?
And Al's letter did not say IMO anywhere in it!..So either he is suicidal or he is pretty sure he can back his words up!
ROFL And I thought I was the only cynic thinking that!
How many books were being bought by the UC and NS supporters? Very few because they are upset with the new management. How many books will they buy now?
Marketing?
And of course Godwin used to be president, I think, of MDMN.
Yes, exactly. He was the interim CEO until Price was acquitted in the Bermuda Shorts case.
June 1st should make for some fun posts to read.
LOL acca is already trying to stretch it out longer for maximum amount of pain. Why don't they just call him out and force him to reveal his sources or tell him to get lost? It must require an extraordinary amount of patience to be a "true long" in acca's universe of BS.
Acca: How would you feel about June 2... June3, how would that be ? Would you be mad with me? I understand ........ It is there...
.......In the long run, we will be rewarded.
You don't really deny RA committed fraud, do you?
Deny it? I believe he was a conman years ago. I just don't understand how Captain Fluffy manages to still have some of his victims brainwashed. IMO, he was and still is very transparent.
I was curious how they were going to explain away the packets not showing up
LOL Some still believe the fuchsia colored packets are on their way.
By: leowanta
27 May 2008, 11:23 AM EDT
Msg. 725151 of 725328
(This msg. is a reply to 725129 by mquietstorm3.)
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ATTENTION MQUIETSTORM>MESSENGER
please return this message to the powers of the "company"
"In who way shall the company USE the counterfeit shareholders' money as collateral/working capital until 2010." THIS MONEY THEY COLLECTED FOR OUR CERTIFICATES WILL/SHALL NOT BE KEPT FROM US SHAREHOLDERS AFTER MAY 2009. IT MUST/SHALL BE DISTRIBUTED...OR ELSE!
YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONE TO THE BANK MQ/COMPANY! YOU MUST RELEASE THE MONEY AND IF ANY SHAREHOLDER WANTS TO PUT UP PRIVATE PLACEMENTS THEN THEY CAN DO SO....THE COUNTERFEIT SHAREHOLDERS ARE NOT PART OF THE COMPANY...THE COMPANY ONLY HAS 800 BILLION SHARES AUTHORIZED...AND THEREFORE, WE ARE NOT PART OF COMPANY BUSINESS, WE HOLD NO VOTING RIGHTS...THEREFORE YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF EMBEZZELMENT IF YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR MONEY ...THIS GOES NO FURTHER THAN END OF MAY 2008...
THANK YOU MQ FOR DELIVERING THIS IMPORTANT NOTICE.
leowanta
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DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Re: Discuss Da Buzz - Long Weekend Edition
ซ Reply #43 Today at 6:39am ป
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short recap...
Acca: May is still a go.
If they release the 90% of the funds, we are told they are not liable for the remaining 10%. There are discussions going on this week that say screw the 10% and pay the 90% which is a huge amount. Do not worry about the 10%. There are entities that refuse to pay. Some have been convicted... others have not. 92% have paid.
There is a trust with something separate. It is a huge ROI. It is an astronomical amount.
Sit back and relax it is absolutely happening in May.
There is a trust that was set up a long time ago.
For some reason the SEC will not release that partial payment.
Then when asked if the 90% would be released this week, Acca said he thinks so and will find out this week.
Yes, absolutely they are going to pay... whether there is 8% or 10% pay ... so be it. They still have to pay. Do we have to wait? No, we are don't but it is up to the SEC. I will be in discussions this week.
There are 2 trusts. One is 92% full. The other is 100% is full.
Tramp mentions that he found it interesting that a few years ago he noticed the DTCC had a $100 Trillion insurance policy in Germany.
Tramp asked if the 10% would be paid by this DTCC insurance.
Ines said Abad had stated that about 90-92% of stocks are cleared through the DTCC.
The discussion is going on in Vegas this week.
When someone said there were several times that Acca said we would be paid in May and asked if
Bob Maheu was the catalyst to prove the naked short. Fact!
When he tells Ines that he wrote "Every HOLIDAY after this one will be a holiday." He said that was his loophole. He said he has to have loopholes.
He still says he believes we will get paid at the end of this week.
Acca said listen to Pelican Brief. I love that man. He is intelligent. Listen to what he says.
When asked if the meeting would determine if we would be paid this week. He said yes.
Ines: Nothing ever gets done! Year after year! All that has happened doesn't really matter. Overstock is ove 800 days on the show list. That does not give us a lot of confidence at all. We can say it is a sting, but that is what they always do. It is classic. It is ALWAYS the company's fault. Anybody else's fault doesn't get published or known to the public.
Ines asked if they are just stringing us along until all the lawsuits are paid to pay us? What can we be confident Do they have a timeline whatsoever for us? What the heck are we waiting on?
Acca: I _?(think)_ this timeline.... but as far as the lawsuits are concerned he disagrees with Ines. We will just see this week.
Question: What is the difference between a fund and a trust?
Acca: As far as 54 + 77... you caught that....... A fund and a trust are very different. The is a trust that was set up by Urban... a deal between Urban and a certain entity. The fund was set up by the SEC. I never stated the price... the first payment... I don't believe it is that high... I believe it is very low. That is all I have to say about that.
Spudy: They are all done with this right now. It is the company's hand right now since the 24th of April.
Acca: We will see Tues.
Spudy: I agree with that. Meetings going on Tues. & Wed. It has been taken care of and we will find out this week. but people are mixing up the disgorgement and the naked short.
Acca: would you like to join me Tues.
Spudy: Yea, if you pay for my plane ticket, I will be there.
Acca: Well it won't be me.
Question: Is there any notification we will receive over the internet or anything like that?
Acca: yes... absolutely.. yes.
Ines: Is it in the company's hand or the SEC's ... which is the truth?
Acca: We will find out Tues... I think it is in the company's hands.
Question: asked about the length of the meeting... and will you give us the result?
Acca: though Saturday I believe
Question: When you ask if it is in the Company's hands, who are you talking about? Does that mean Mr. Maheu, Mr. Cassavant, Kevin West, or none of the above?
Acca: none of the above
Ines: What is the reason this cannot go past May.
Acca: First of all ... there is a certain reason... I cannot answer that. If it goes past may without any notification or payment, we are in trouble.
Question: Is it fair to say there are 40 or so companies that are waiting to get paid after us.
Acca: less than that ... not a lot... but less than that
Question: Is this a gov't meeting, a company meeting, or a govenment/company meeting .. and is it in Vegas?
Acca: I would say it is the latter ... and yes it is in Vegas.
Question: If the meeting lasts through Sat, how can we get paid this month.
Acca: It has no outcome on our getting paid.
Ines: They have the money. They have to release it. If they really intend to release it. I don't see any reason for there to be trouble. Why would there be trouble? Maybe it is a delay again, that's all.
Acca: How would you feel about June 2... June3, how would that be ? Would you be mad with me? I understand ........ It is there...
.......In the long run, we will be rewarded.
Question: Are you getting this information from people?
Acca: ...... I was given a script... it is not for everybody... I obviously have an obligation to shareholders................
Ines: ....... comments about how we are not getting info... and other things......
Acca: I do what I have to do... You say it is Tyler Texas talking to you... They don't talk. They don't speak. You have 1 person.........
I work for the company and that's it.
Question: Will there be some type of payment schedule?
Acca: Yes, there will be a payment schedule, I believe, in the packet.... but let's get the first payment first.
Spudy? : Would you agree with this statement... Frizzell is only dealing with the disgorgement + regaining claims... and Stocklein is only dealing with the NSS.... and the reason I cannot come to the meeting in Vegas is that I would not be standing by my mailbox on Tues + Wed.?
Acca: I'll have to agree with that.
Question: Is it fair to say that we that in a few days here you/we? will be decompartmentalized?
Acca: yes
Question: Is it fair to say there will be party balloons,etc... (paraphrased)
Acca: yes... I will say so
Question: What color are the packets?
Acca: They are a very pretty fuchsia... a pinkish color.
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Yikes!
Buffett says recession may be worse than feared
By Jonathan Stempel Mon Apr 28, 11:09 AM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Warren Buffett, the world's richest person, said on Monday the U.S. economy is in a recession that will be more severe than most people expect.
Buffett made his comments on CNBC television after his Berkshire Hathaway Inc (BRKa.N) (BRKb.N) agreed to invest $6.5 billion in the takeover of chewing gum maker Wm Wrigley Jr Co (WWY.N) by Mars Inc in a $23 billion transaction.
"This is not a field of specialty for me, but my general feeling is that the recession will be longer and deeper than most people think," Buffett said. "This will not be short and shallow.
"I think consumers are feeling gas and food prices," he added, "and not feeling they've got a lot of money for other things."
He was not immediately available for further comment. Known for his frugality, the 77-year-old Buffett has lived in the same 10-room Omaha, Nebraska, house for a half-century, despite being worth an estimated $62 billion.
On Wednesday, the U.S. Commerce Department is expected to say how fast the economy grew in the first quarter. Economists on average have projected that gross domestic product grew at an annualized 0.2 percent rate in the quarter.
Two quarters of declining GDP is a traditional indicator of recession. That last happened in 2001. Economists expect the U.S. Federal Reserve on Wednesday to cut a key lending rate for a seventh time beginning last September.
Berkshire is a $197 billion conglomerate best known for its insurance holdings, such as auto insurer Geico Corp, but it owns more than 70 businesses.
Many of those businesses are tied to the housing market, including Acme Brick Co, insulation maker Johns Manville, and the real estate brokerage HomeServices of America Inc.
Others depend on consumers to spend more on discretionary items, such as Ben Bridge Jeweler and Borsheims Fine Jewelry.
"In the retail businesses ... if anything, they've gotten a little worse," Buffett said. "Of course, things connected with housing, whether it's in brick or whether it's in carpet, those businesses have shown no uptick at all. Jewelry had a bad Christmas ... and it stayed that way."
Buffett sees no respite from the housing slump.
"I think this is going to be fairly long and fairly deep, but who knows," he said.
In March, Forbes magazine pegged Buffett's net worth at $62 billion, ahead of Mexican tycoon Carlos Slim's $60 billion and Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) Chairman Bill Gates's $58 billion. Gates is a friend of Buffett and a Berkshire director.
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I was reading the CMKI board Saturday night when I noticed a new alias named "roberttin" trying to intimidate nufced. The threat came out of the blue. Turns out this poster was harassing nuf along with Tref on the BTMD board. Tref is now including nufced in his delusional paranoiac rants. Their posts have been deleted today. I suspect roberttin for multiple aliases, Tref's for the vulgar smut he posted all weekend on several boards. He'll probably accuse RB of being criminals again for deleting his posts instead of taking the responsibility that he posted filth.
I have read the drama between Willy and rdassociates on the GBDX board before, but after reading the BTMD board this weekend, I'm convinced he is as loonie as Rufus Harris.
who posts under at least three different aliases that he admittedly shares with at least 12 other people.
It takes three aliases and 12 people to compose messages? That's hilarious! Why can't they each have their own account? Something seems fishy about that, imo.