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it looks to me you did what you had to do since you couldn't get any 5's today...very nice...it looks like you are building a solid base of shares down here in the basement...imo
I could see spooztoolz playing a part in replacing/complimenting/updating these bottom to downloads from the Bloomberg site...(notice that they are relatively old, 05-06, and are Excel/Fix Protocol related)
http://about.bloomberg.com/software/info_api.html
...not sure...just a thought
Trader, Phillymike reported that the O/S was up to ~4.9B on Sept 23. I believe the bloomberg news was posted that evening near the end of that day. to me it appeared the o/s had increased before news was spread. also, the news was not distributed on the wires...so....while, i don't like seeing the o/s move as much as you do, i don't think your statement below holds any merit.
"They once again diluted into a news and sold their shares for as much as they could after some guys bought in hope that this time the news is really different. That's the story unfortunately."
i'm not sure how others celebrated but i was and still am excited by this deal. i dont blame anyone else for feeling the same way....even without all the details.
again, this validates the company to a certain extent and when you are in trip zeros, that is a great thing and worthy of a little celebration imo...especially when so many people were so convinced that it was a scam that they posted it on a daily basis...
maybe this deal doesn't get us to a penny...? i'm ok with that. as others have stated, it will at least make it easier to bag other deals if this works at bloomberg. all i know is that all the shares i bought at triple zero are now looking pretty good..and i'll drink to that.
mc, we have waited a long time...i registered on IHUB a little over 2 years ago because of this stock
trader, this is a fair question you are asking and i would like to know exactly how many people in bloomberg tradebook are potential customers of spooz with this deal.
the pr is worded...
"Spooz is pleased to announce an integration agreement with Bloomberg Tradebook’s electronic trading system. Due to mutual client demand, the SpoozToolz trading software will be able to send orders and receive fills in the equity, futures, options and Foreign Currency Exchange. Spooz and Bloomberg Tradebook anticipate delivering an integrated product to customers within sixty days. The product is available to Bloomberg Professional ® service subscribers."
so it will be tied into Bloomberg Tradebook's electronic trading system...(makes one think only those who use tradebook will be potential customers)
but it IS available to Bloomberg Professional subscribers...(of which there are 250,000 members)???
i guess we really need to know how many people will be trading equity, futures, options and Foreign Currency Exchange that are Bloomberg Professionals...I am starting to think that is our potential customer base whether they are Tradebook members (yet)or not....
how does this deal benefit Bloomberg?...i would think that this is now an option in Tradebook that provides an advantage. maybe they think more people will sign up for Tradebook with this option in the Tradebook tool box.
i don't know enough about bloomberg's structure and business model to understand exactly how spooz is fitting in and how big the potential is....i need to do some more DD and if anyone else knows more I'll read about it here...for now, though, i am just excited that someone stopped at our lemonade stand....i think i'll take a few days to enjoy this milestone
i like your question here hardasset...what will spooz be competing with within the Bloomberg Tradebook world?
stervc, yes you are right...i was talking about a price per month...not including template fees
from www.spooztoolz.com
SpoozToolz PRO
$700.00
SpoozToolz Pro is a package of products and technical support services designed specifically for proprietary trading firms and institutional users.
allie, it now makes sense to me why they have been quiet for so long. it must have taken a lot of hard work to bag a deal like this :)
with the global market coverage of Bloomberg, it also makes sense why they might have mentioned opening an office in London....it looks like to me like we might have left the "green zone"...haha
with the modules and templates in full play...it looks they have sold Bloomberg on their SpoozToolz Pro package...$400-$500 per subsciption + any template fees....???
From PR.....
The agreement between the two companies calls for delivery of the SpoozToolz core product as well as its Custom Pricing and AutoSpreader modules.Additionally, Spooz will provide custom trading templates to Tradebook and its customers on a fee basis and will make its template library generally available to those traders wishing access.
i will enjoy reading this board tonight. i have been waiting for the moment when it is confirmed that spooz has something, technology or a product, to offer that is legit and wanted by the industry...i think this PR is just that moment....and it has been a long wait.
i would hope that even the doubters will admit that this is a positive development although most will probably wait until Bloomberg confirms the news.
damn nicehit i was literally about to paste that same link...but it sounds so good, here it goes again
The BLOOMBERG PROFESSIONAL community now comprises approximately 250,000 subscribers from the world's central banks, investment institutions, commercial banks, government offices and agencies, law firms, corporations and news organizations in over 150 countries. Virtually every leading bank, brokerage, insurance company, financial regulator and corporation is a subscriber -- with round-the-clock access to our network.
http://about.bloomberg.com/professional/index.html
OT:Steve and Bird, well my Stros got Iked....we had won 14 out of 15 to climb back into the wild card race and then Ike forced two "home" games against Cubs to be played in Milwakee(of all places). we get no-hit by Zambrano....now they are in a free-fall...got swept by Marlins and have now lost 6 in a row...season over.
and steve, while their were 95% cubs fans at the games in milwakee, i will not accept that as an excuse for my team...they got dominated by good pitching.
MC, I cant argue with the fact that Paul is ultimately responsible for the validity of the company's PRs and he should have reviewed the methodology and testing in great detail to understand the results before putting them in a PR.
SWARM and automated trading do not seem like simple things. I imagine that there are ways to deceive and manipulate results. I'm sure Paul also trusted Groves and He and that made it easy for them to do what they did.
At the end of the day, I cannot understand why Paul would take them to court if he had any dirty laundry, including the release of information that he knew was false. My point is that by exposing his company to the court-of-law, he is exposing all of their past and his past. I don't think he would take that chance if Spooz was a scam.
looks like we had an end of day buyer (or painter)...not much action today with shares or with chatter...i guess everyone is watching the big boards
whats the story today....no buyers at 5 but a seller at 3 = low volume...yawn...maybe someone will buy before close on hope of Thurs news???
so did we officially close at .0004 or .0006?
I am not buying or selling, but if i had to guess, I'd say you could buy for .0002 and sell for only .0001...again this is just a guess since i have no orders in place
are the days of buying shares at 0.0001 over? volume is now low and O/S has been stable...all we need now is a little push...
IW, that was the most worthwhile and believable post that I have read in a while. Thank you for your feedback on Spoozchartz and how it may interact with Spooztoolz. Knowing you through this board for over a year now, I believe there is merit and truth in your words.
Sadly, after last weekend, I hold more faith in spooz than A&M football...lol. Should we execute Sherman without seeing the end of the season, like so many here wish to execute Paul before the full spooz story is revealed?
Thanks for the time you have dedicated in an attempt to present people with facts.
where is this 10MM of volume coming from? any ideas? i didn't see any news. i'm now at break even...just wondering if this run will be sustained or if it will be a one-day wonder like spikes over the last few months.
topper, you in the area? they say a picture speaks a thousand words....
aharfo56, can you point me to documentation that leads you to believe we will see 2.5B shares soon?....someone else mentioned Sept. 5....where is this info coming from?
do i believe it will get back to 0.02? there are so many unknowns in play it is hard to answer that one...i don't like the lingering bankruptcy issues...just creates complications. also the company appears to be have started revenue generation but all we've got is pictures and PRs about operations....once production and revenue numbers come out i might consider averaging down.
cdnkid, you mentioned the germany investor group but also the 10Q revealing that the company has shares to dump....what, in your opinion, has caused the slow drop in sp ove the last few weeks? was your order for 100k that you mentiond at 0.008 a buy or sell?
imo...it is either the company selling shares OR entities who bought ultra cheap a few months ago slowly letting go of shares. if i had bought millions of shares at 0.002, i'd have been slowly selling them over the last few weeks....bought i didn't, i bought at 0.02 and now i'm in a tough spot trying to decide to hold or sell
nuk, any idea why we are sliding?...
good post kdawg...while these objections aren't ideal they don't automatically mean things are "falling apart"...let us see what happens at the hearing next month
i'm not certain but i believe there was another update...can anyone fill in the gap here? what and when was the last reported O/S count from TA?
when is the next scheduled hearing on all this bk objection muck?
while positive earnings would be great, it didn't help us too much back when strong 1Q earnings were released. i wish this selling pressure would dry up and they would let this recover some from its sustained drop over 2008. it looks like this latest rally was artificial....heck i'd be happy just to see it trade sideways for a while prior to earnings.
i did not think earnings were terrible, residental looked good, commercial project revenue did not but i guess we must believe the CEO's explanation that commercial projects typically span multiple quarters so volitility should be expected....solar seems to be stagnant at the moment...i'm not sure what to get excited about here in the short term...
haven't posted in a while...i have bought some more shares down here in the trench....point forward i see this as a good investment AS LONG AS shares dry up and then they announce that revenue is being generated...can we please see the O/S stabilize and then a PR or two about deals to get out us out of the basement
just sold a holding of 600k shares at 0.011...however, i must admit that the stock seems to be holding quite nicely considering the R/S discovery...perhaps only people who read this board are selling...not sure but i might be kicking myself if this recovers some throughout the day...perhaps there is more going on behind the scenes than meets the eye...?
yeah, but will they let it run a bit this time...anybody with level II?
bought some at .055 this morning...not sure if that was smart or not...this has been on a long slide and bottom is murky...i bought a little hoping for a sustained reversal soon...
this thing is reluctant to dip under 4.0...i may try to doubledown in the low 4's if possible.
i agree, i am watching closely for a opening to try a deepdown double-down
fwiw, i've had GTC order in since monday for 1mil at .0003 and it has only had 100k filled...it appears that they do not want to let go of them at that price.
congrats to everyone who is still in here...unfortunately i sold yesterday in order to lock in a decent profit...while a profit is nothing to cry about, it looks like the buyer is back and i missed out on the potential to make some real green, oh well, I needed the free cash...
good luck to all of you guys!!!
i do have a question, if anyone cares to answer, in this case i had shares at ~.30 and .02 for an average of 0.05...both lots were held less than a year...so one lot will have short term gains and one will have short term loss...my current understanding is that i need to wait 30 days before buying effc again OR ELSE my ability to claim the short term loss from the 30 cent lot is forfeited....is this correct? i'm not looking to buy back in right now but want to make sure i understand this correctly. i am not clear since i had a net gain from the transaction but have different lots. thanks for any response.
what kind of vol just took it down to .08?