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Very good post my man Erock.
Looking forward to seeing how financials and business deals play out for this stock in upcoming weeks!
Dafuji- great post my man!
It is all relative....various ones of us have differing amounts invested and different averages....not to mention the combination of investors, traders, flippers, etc....
Lastly, "rich" is all about perspective.....I'd like to have more money just like the next man or woman, but I know it isn't everything.
Steady north climbing works for me!
OPMG!!!
SF- is your chat Public? Can you send me a private msg on if/how I could join?
Yes. Very good post! I've shared in other places already!
Thanks for sharing!
LOL.....I don't think so my friend!
I'm actually a relatively new investor....but I've been learning quick. I take the time out to read books, these boards, etc....
Again, that may have been extremely elementary to many of you, but thought I'd shared for what's it's worth.
I also want to say that I'm glad to see the board is becoming more civil again for the most part.
I think we can debate, discuss, etc....without making personal attacks on one another.
Thanks for all the DD that everyone continues to post!
Go OPMG!
Something to think about....we all need to hold on to our shares!
I know that many of you already probably already know this, but it may be a good read on MM games for many
More and more investors are winning the game nowadays despite all bashers that float through the Internet that has become part of the game. Floor traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the market during trading session. OTC BB market makers (MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis. However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb money does use this newest niche charting or TA (Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus the public and dumb money they will have eating out of their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close price in order to generate selling volume, delaying trading time to manipulate trading activities, or even stalling the ask without honoring orders to hold a stock price.
MMs follow a simple code of business when making a market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the level that stocks will seek that yields the most volume. Now this is very important because they make money on the volume buying at the bid and selling at the ask. In other words, by making the market they are buying low and selling high. Now smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the market makers. They could careless whether the stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about is the action thus being able to sell stock at the offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The low). To increase their profitability, they make the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.
When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not the price that's going to yield the most volume. They need both buy and sells to get the maximum action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there that they can and then comes the pullback one way or another naturally or induced. During the pull back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce. At some price, the stock will be relatively stable and yield the most volume. Now that is the average price you will see
The average price is the point where a stock seeks a level where MMs can profit on the most volume. So during the day that is the price that MMs and momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why? Because they know the public and dumb money was chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market makers, who are in the business to screw the public every chance they get. They are merely making the market liquid is their reasoning.
The market makers have created an added complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively neutral to the market. How they figure it is when average dumb money buys shares in a company, the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it is very likely that dumb money will want to sell back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.
Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs merely short sells into the buying and attempts to take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine shake out, this type of deception works quite well for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now that puts the MM at selling low through shorting and thus having to buy high in order to cover.
Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull out every trick and tactic in the book in order to attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or percent from where the stock started. Could be a fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities. What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount of money for your momentum and day trading style by shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs short position so they let it go to the next level. Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce Bear Raid or panic selling.
Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is sure rough today." The MM along with the other "friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same time. Now this can also be done with a certain amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They will move it down quickly to get it to a price of least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start accumulating and buying comes flying in when they take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point of volume again and not only investors the other MMs step in the make money on the spread.
Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even locking the Bid and Ask for a while.
Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.
MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would take probably more than a lifetime to figure them all out.
So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is indirection trading style by going long which the MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the MMs have all the advantages due to position or other factors, direct confrontation such as momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a definite death sentence.
However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the path of least resistance before slowly overcoming it. The most effective way is long-term investors slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as their short position. This is war so this slow accumulation and holding for the long term easily achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover and knock off the tactics or bury themselves deeper.
The MMs when caught will especially use every trick and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus playing on the individual fear of most people. The MMs feel they have information and position advantages over the investors as long as the holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all OTCBB companies are not worth investing and management is ineffective regardless what is happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know they are in the position to impose a great deal of influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits their needs.
This inherent power of position enables the MMs to move the markets at any time up or down. As a result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not mean just any company but to effectively nail the MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
Go OPMG!
Shooter34,
On the real, this news is niiiiceeeee! Good to hear more tangible evidence regarding the Guns Blazing promotion!
This stock choice puts a bigger smile on my face each day!
Go OPMG!
DD22 you are definitely in my thoughts and prayers. My father in law just passed away last week due to complication arising forom his 4 year bout with cancer....so very real to me.
I think that we all have to remember that most of us on this board are on the same team and looking to make some money to better life for ourselves and the people close to us. That's what it is really about.
Any DD that anyone can provide that helps each of us make money and limit losses is what we should be truly looking to assess.
Thanks again for the DD that you, Elijah, Coal, BuyBio, and a host of others continue to provide.
Be Blessed
Great find Coal! It is great to see confirmation of the plan unfolding just as initially shared!
Go OPMG!
BigPun35-
Great find my man! This is just another piece of proof that OPMG management and Justin Bieber know exactly what they're doing!
OPMG!
Thanks for the explanation!
I'm not selling my shares...I'm long on VLCO!
How do you know the company is buying back now?
I'm hoping that is true, but wondering what makes you so sure.
Sounds good to me!
It was just a thought/suggestion towards garnering support for more buyers. I don't think it is an outlandish one or anything either.
I'm personally holding onto my shares long regardless
OPMG!
Is there anyone on this board that is close enough with the Chairman of the Board or CEO to check in with them and understand if now that they've raised the working capital if they plan to proceed as stated during the conference call?
Just some type of check in with them.....I think that could build a lot of confidence in investors to continue to provide strong support.
Just a thought.
Thanks for providing your thoughts on the buyback. Very helpful!
Penny Whisperer,
Ingrid: 'No, we'll be announcing it before it is done to give everyone a chance to benefit from it.'
I don't understand how announcing the share buyback before it occurs allows everyone to benefit from it. Wouldn't it best for the company to wait until the PPS is at a lower price, but on an upward trend before executing the buyback so they don't spend too much money to complete the buyback?
Seems like that would be the best way to push the PPS higher while also not cut into company funds more then necessary.
Maybe, I'm not understanding the this correctly.
Could you shed some light on this?
Penny Whisperer,
I don't understand how it "benefits" the shareholder for them to announce the buyback prior to it occuring.
Isn't it best for them to wait until the PPS is low, but on an upward trend to execute the buyback so the company doesn't spend too much money on buying those shares?
Maybe I don't understand the buyback process as well as I should.
Could you shed some light on this?
I received notes from a few folks stating that Justin Bieber has already been tweeting, etc.. and that it hasn't helped move the PPS up yet. Ummmm, I realize that, but....
He has only had a few interactions with the Social Media and in those he mentioned Phoneguard casually or at the end of the statement.
He hasn't made the hardcore direct link to the Phoneguard product just yet. I've got to believe he will do that soon, by July 11th at the latest. I'm sure his team and Keith St. Clair have been determining the best strategy.
That should definitely effect the share price.
IMO
Chin Wolfy,
Very good response.
I've got to believe that once Justin Bieber starts talking, tweeting, facebooking, etc...PhoneGuard it will drive up the company's value period.......even if he starts before July 11th.
Not saying it'll turn the PPS into the dollar range overnight, but it will certainly begin to push the value higher than 4 cents.
If they are then able to pull off any type of turn key operation and/or the insurance companies start providing discounts that are equal to or greater than the price of the app then the app will sell as well.
IMO
Thanks Penny Whisperer.....you always have the answers
Go VLCO!
Thanks for the suggestion.
I did check out a few competitive products via the internet. It is difficult to tell or understand how their value equations stack up against PhoneGuard just from looking at their websites though.
I think we're going to have see if someone can do a trial of various products to see how we stack up.....this is a common practice in the tech world.
I think OPMG management needs to vet this out as well so if and when they are confronted with questions regarding why someone should purchase PhoneGuard versus the other products on the market they already have the talk sheet prepared.
I realize I'm the one that has gotten everyone going on this product capability thing....I just think it is important to make sure both the marketing and the product capability sides are covered to ensure the company does well and in turn the PPS continues to move on up in the future!
Motivated and others,
Thanks again for the quick responses:
There are two points in time that affect consumers:
1)Their initial introduction to the product (this is the marketing that you refer to)
2)Their first experience using the product
If both of these interactions are positive market share is driven in the company's favor dramatically due to word of mouth (which is important in the Social Media age) and repeat buying.
I think marketing is the first step towards success, but having a solid product in addition enables hitting the homerun!
Your point relative to how a higher price reduces the amount of overhead per unit is very valid. I think you're right in that, that significantly helps the profit margin and makes fundamentals look better.
Thanks again for engaging in the dialogue.
Go OPMG!
Thanks for the quick response!
I'm was inquiring from both the perspective of an investor (I'm long on OPMG) and a customer.
When I was doing internet research I saw a few different blogs where people mentioned/wrote that this type of software was already on the market and that PhoneGuard wasn't doing anything revolutionary. That's where the question was derived from.
I clearly get that we have a competitive advantage in the marketing arena via JB. Again, I was asking questions more about the product itself...hoping it is so superior that people hear about it from JB, then love the product, then provide more free marketing by word of mouth!
Go OPMG!
I understand Justin Bieber is being used for a major marketing advantage. I was inquiring as to what was being done to ensure PhoneGuard demonstrates separation versus DriveRepl from a Product Capability standpoint....
I've been quietly following this board for quite some time now. The sentiment that news, shares buyback, and a dividend will occur soon have been mentioned over and over. What is your estimate/opinion on the time line of these events?
Helps tremendously! Thanks for the DD and the explanation! It is much appreciated.
I read some stuff about an app called DriveReply that is supposed to be similar. Do you know if the OPMG management team is aware of this and what they are doing to separate themselves from a product capability standpoint?