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"if the product is close enough" That's a mighty big if IMHO. Why b/c unless you have control of the budget for each individual entity then its a total waste of time to try and speak what their requirements are. This is not a communist country where one decision is made for all.
For one thing Battis does absolutely nothing to combat any of the negativity surrounding this company. He can't even upgrade the website with the most recent PR. So he allows the stockholders to defend this for him? I know if this was my company I would be all over it, but that isn't the case here. A reason could be what you are talking about KC getting the price to a point where its attractive to another buyer. At this point it appears Mr. Battis is taking you can't get blood out of a stone stance. Creditors, Lawsuit, OS through the roof and a sp at sub-penny. How much farther can a person take it? To me he has very few options left.
Man those huge government contractors are simply amazing aren't they? I sure wish LEI was owned by them instead of being infiltrated by them.
Wow that's some pretty heavy material. Um why are you here then? After all this has always been a speculative play for literally years. Sometimes emails are answered and at times phone calls are returned, but never has there been any consistency in communication. I believe everyone here will agree with that. As far as the OS that too is no secret..is it? anybody? Battis is in financial dire straights? Really? What would give a person that idea? From what I have heard from some bloggers is that he pays himself and his management team handsomely. So why the contradiction? Could it possibly be there is a lack of definitive information? Is there something in the public record stating Battis or his company has filed for bankruptcy? I for one tire of all the speculation without documentation. If a person gets a bad feeling from this stock then say no thank you, state your reasons and then cut n run.
Whoa wait a minute this is the address for Big Bang Entertainment? So is this his residence or what? I need more information before I just jump off the cliff like you are working towards, Have you been to this address at one point or another? It sure sounds like you have more insight than the average Joe. Especially since this just came to light right after the weekend.
Well first of all "somebody on Yahoo" hardly qualifies as positive proof...got a link?
From my perspective the money they invested in an FDA expert was to avoid the cost of retooling.
In my view they had two choices one retool (expensive) or hire an FDA expert (not as expensive). I don't believe the towel has been thrown in on this current verdict. Time will tell, but in the mean time focus on potential customers who are exempt from the United States FDA requirements. Plenty of doors still to be knocked on. And as always I am completely sold on this product. Even more so after scrutinizing the competitions offering.
"LEI applied for a Variance from the FDA’s compliance which would not make us add an unnecessary and costly switch to the Dazer Laser® GUARDIAN".
http://laserenergetics.com/foundersmessage/LEIFoundersMessage13_081313.pdf
I would imagine adding this switch is going to require a design change. "Simply a matter of adding a switch" You make it sound like a common on/off switch they can purchase at the local RadioShack and just mount it anywhere with a sheet metal screw.
Sorry just the vision of something like that makes me LOL! Another thing to note any changes in the design probably will require a whole another set of patent amendments, and certifications.
So yes wouldn't it be nice if it was as easy as slapping a switch onto the existing product.
One other point I wish to make is with the SP at less than 1.5 cents per share just how much cash flow do you think they have?
Again why not focus on the military contract first? If the Dazer gets endorsed by the military don't you think that would open some doors for future purchases by LE?... of course it would.
Well said wshaw4.
Here's a thought why not focus on the upcoming contract bid with the military since they are exempt from any FDA certification. That way their resources are not spread as thin and if by chance they do land a piece of this contract it would certainly go a long way in funding any necessary upgrades required to obtain the variance needed for civilian applications. Again its so easy to step back and ask why, but its another story when walking in managements shoes. I don't have any experience bringing a laser dazzler to the mainstream...do you?
Sorry I couldn't help but go to both the B.E. Meyers and Laser Energetics site and do a virtual side by side comparison. So not to appear biased here are the two links to the specs. Take the time and go through each specification line by line it is only then that you can make an honest assessment of both products.
Also take note of the disclaimer for the B.E. Meyers product "This product is under review for EAR Control."
Meaning it has not yet been approved for export: http://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/regulations/export-administration-regulations-ear
The Glare Enforcer:
http://www.bemeyers.com/index.php?option=com_product&catid=36&id=55
The Dazer Laser:
http://laserenergetics.com/pdf/dazerlaser_guardian_featuresandspecs_2013.pdf
Enjoy!
Thank you I haven't seen that same information since probably Monday or Tuesday of this week. But again thanks for the wakeup call far be it from me to express any enthusiasm with the technology this company is attempting to bring to market.
Being an investor in this company is like rooting for your favorite team who's never had a winning record and being surrounded by people who only want to be on the winning side. Once again my position is this... it's America we are capitalists competition is a GOOD thing. Not everybody with deep pockets wins, but it sure doesn't hurt either, thus I will remain with my initial investment despite any outsider who wishes to "enlighten" me on the pitfalls of penny stock investing!
Thank you and have a great weekend all.
Excuse me I stand corrected...uh where does the LE carry that around their neck? Looks like an IR camera. And uh how hot does this get after multiple triggers I don't see that listed here anywhere in the specs. Thanks in advance DeaconY
If you are going to quote specifications it usually helps to go to the B.E. Meyers sight and get it there rather than relying upon...?
Straight from their webpage:
GLARE MOUT > Item No. 532P-M
NSN Number: 1265-01-558-5814
Output Power (Visible): 125 mW (maximum)
Wavelength: 532 nm (green)
Laser Classification: Class 3B
Power Supply: 2 x 123
Dimensions: 7.7 x 1.8 x 1.7 in
Weight (With Batteries): 9.9 oz
NOHD: 18m (.25 s exposure)
Effective Range (day): > 200 m
NOHD = 18m now I don't think that equates to 0 feet!
Ok well it appears you have it all figured out so I guess I will dump my shares and move on. Thank you for all your professional advice on the broad subjects of Human Psycology, Marketing and Economics....just to name a few of course.
The problem with Tasers is they can kill people. This is not my opinion but backed up by doctors. Shocking people may be a quick way to drop a perp but it is in no way shape or form the only answer. This is a tired argument jgloria and one you should probably pull from the archives as far as my opinion on the subject. There is NO weapon that is perfect for every scenario period.
From a military point of view it doesn't, but from a civilian point of view it does. So now it becomes an FDA approval issue. So I guess 2014 they will test those waters again. Sit back and enjoy the ride it should be interesting.
The problem with the "competition" is you have to be more than 30 feet away or you suffer eye damage so...whats the point?
According to a former poster here (telling me how stupid I am) CL-A means class A. So there you have it. There has been and still is plenty of interest in this company. Most of it on the negative side though. Maybe this company can surprise everybody and turn that frown upside down!
The only thing I could find to compare it to was this tiny obscure equity...
http://research.investors.com/quotes/nasdaq-facebook-inc-cl-a-fb.htm
just a quick in and out trade don't you know.
Oh thank you for clarifying that and here I thought this was on a bull charging run.
Another take on the matter could be that folks who do know choose not to participate on stock blogs.
As long as I have been here I can't say as I have witnessed other bloggers posting pictures from their portfolio dealing with any show or demonstration. Of course this is just an observation and not a definitive answer in either direction. As always the decision is left up to the individual. In this case it appears it is a no. If that is truly a deal breaker then I guess it's time to decide what the next venture will be.
That's good news! if you don't mind where is the link to that information so we all can take a look at it. I'm sure there are a couple of people who would like to look it over. Thanks in advance.
Oh my bad I thought you just wanted some pictures of LEI and CACI at the AUSA...sorry I didn't attend this year and even if I did I'm not sure if they allow pictures to be taken without expressed permission. Again I don't know the answer to that either..maybe somebody will come along soon who was there and can give us the straight scoop.
here are some pics from the ausa
http://laserenergetics.com/gallery_ausaannualmeetingandexpo2012.html
That is fitting wshaw hope things smooth out a bit here and maybe get some news from last weeks AUSA.
Oh well if you got something equal or better in this arena then I'm all ears if not then there is nothing more to discuss from my point of view. So keep the nose to the screen and surf surf surf hopefully something will turn up that is ideal.
Not a deal breaker from my perspective. CACI was no more than a mentor in the first place. And of course the last two PR's were solely from LEI. So uh CACI? Ok turn the page.
put it this way jgloria
if you are writing a book why not add this to that chapter in answer to your inquiry
That is odd I sure hope this isn't a trend or something. I still haven't recovered from the TonyBeets issue earlier this week...
Well because they did use them and I am curious what positives and negatives they found...does that fit your playbook? And uh I'm not surprised they didn't respond they probably get 100's of similar inquiries from people who have no skin in the game other than blogging.
Why are you dodging the Palm Bay request? Could it be for other reasons than what your minds eye has led you to believe? In other words why is it a different story when other posters do the same thing as you?
Why yes I have and it was four years ago so I imagine it has improved quite a bit. And thus is the reason why I have been here for so long and am, as you put it, adamant about getting this into our defenders hand. Now tell me you have a problem with that. Also answer me this why are you pushing back on calling Palm Bay? an actual enforcement entity. Don't want specifics right? it might not be what you want to hear right? of course.
Why do you ask? you made the statement this doesn't work and nobody wants it, and I replied why not call Palm Bay and get their input on how well it worked. I can sit here and say hec yeah I have been dazed and you wouldn't believe it anyway. So why not go to a neutral entity and get their input. Those folks actually had them for a period of time so I imagine they held it, turned it on and off, and so on. In fact I am certain there would plenty of interested parties here who would love to have you share that info with them. Come on jgloria show us all the proof from an actual user the Dazer is not all that. Oh BTW just how many pennies does my history show I have pumped in the last six years? and define "pump" since that term seems to be used quite loosely in certain circles.
Stockmule? and you don't know how to get a companies current shares outstanding?
How do you know "they" don't want it. Give me some actual testimony from the people who have been called out in PR's. Palm Bay should be a good start since they received, used? and then returned theirs. From what I hear you can pick up the phone and talk to them directly. Now wouldn't that be much better and reliable information than to go back n forth with me and my experience. Try that approach first then comeback and banter with the board.
I would hope so, and preferably not some handheld homemade video...how stupid they would look if they chose to run that silly looking presentation again one year later..."Hey folks not enough resources to step it up a notch so here ya go!" I mean the information is there, but sure does lack some class now doesn't it.
you are preaching to the choir betman I have been in this since 2007. Just to psych me up I decided to watch the latest sales pitch and well you be the judge..
http://laserenergetics.com/videos_dazerlaserausa.htm
Why they can't get er done is way beyond anything I can come up with, but its been like this year after year..