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Some of you should give Steve a call today. It would be nice if he could hear something good for once. He did a lot to move this in a direction that would be good for us, more than he legally had to.
good news for sure.
never dead. Just waiting for soemthing to talk about :)
:) Still here will all the shares I have always had. :) Good luck to all.
To all on the e-mail list: Please respect the privacy of those on the list by using BCC when you send out e-mail to the group of people from this board. Thanks.
The intent of the e-mail system on this board is to protect the privacy of the members of this board. I know this sounds MOD-like, but I’m speaking as a member of the community.
With regards to the PDF that has been posted recently, I have confirmed it was made in October 2007.
more BS going on here than there lately...
I heard the same: Ron and Dr Brown were dismissed but the companny and Luke are set to go to court May 12th.
I'll get some of my guys to get under the blocked areas of that PDF.
Ken,
Can you explain what you mean by "investment rights in the patent".
Thanks
So dramatic. Who needs to go to movies, when we can read posts here? :)
That was almost as good as when Luke found out who his father was! (well not really)
Just trying not to be serious all the time.
For what it’s worth...
Take a few steps back with me for a minute, and let’s look at what is happening without all the bias of negativity which is only natural after all we’ve been through. Since the interview that sparked our interest in the very beginning we knew that much of the money that was to be made would come from licensing. If you go back and read some of my early posts, it was one of the things I was the most excited about. All this new development means is Steve is continuing to go after what we always hoped he would go after. This is an amazing and wonderful development. It means he will have cash coming in to fund other efforts. It also means he will have a lot more on the table come the next round in court. Now he can say he has a patent that is worth something because there is already a licensing deal in the works. I hope he gets a few more! I give Steve a lot of credit for this move. He is saying... you know what? I know I can make something of this, and I am going to show everyone I can. This is the only known source of bucks coming in (or potential bucks coming in), and it is from Steve’s efforts. This will be fantastic leverage come the settlement negotiations. If he were going off to do his own thing, there would be no need to negotiate, he’d just go. I’m not saying I know how this will play out, because I don’t. I just want to provide another angle that makes some business sense.
I also want to remind everyone that you have a very diverse group on here who post. Picture for a moment everyone who posts as being 18 years old; still living at home; playing video games in between posts; working at a local fast food joint; with zero business experience and no education past high school who is looking for a way out of working for a living so they put a few hundred bucks into a risky stock and say unintelligent things out of frustration and desperation.
Let that be the default profile unless or until you know differently and certainly before you act based on what people say. I am not attacking anyone here, and I’m certainly not naming names. I just wanted to offer this little perspective as we continue down this path. If you see someone say something like “I cannot believe Steve is going to drop us like this, we should all sue him” in one post, and a few posts later the same person says something like, “oh maybe this will work out great, thanks for the DD”, I wouldn’t pay much attention to any of their posts for any reason other than entertainment purposes.
I have said this in earlier posts, and I’ll say it again: If something is true, is doesn’t matter how many people say it isn’t, and the reverse is also true.
The thoughts in this message come from me without the benefit of any information that isn’t publically available. There are no guarantees here one way or the other. We could lose everything, or we could end up ok. We’ll have to patiently wait it out and see what happens.
Thanks! I'm not going to be on here all the time, but I will answer e-mails.
Any note I got from you I relpyed to. I missed hearing from you. Note: I closed down NewandGreat, so e-mails there will not get to me.
Once we make it though this one, I'll be on one or more boards for other plays. I'm still investing in other stocks, but I don't want to get involved in a board again just yet.
Thanks man. :) I got so many great e-mails back for people here. You guys deserve making it out of this ok; I hope we all do.
No problem man. I hope you don't have the same problem here. It isn't very fun.
I must say all the e-mail I got back from what I just sent were very nice, and 100% positive. There really are a lot of great people here.
Kevin
Yeah I am still single. Any takers? :) j/k (well sort of j/k)
I'm not going to get sucked back in, but i posted an e-mail that should shed some light. Also, there is no need to guess, any of you can e-mail me and ask me any question you'd like.
Kevin
**Pre-Update:**
Hello all board members. This note is to let everyone know that I will be sending out an e-mail communication to everyone who is on the distribution list (add yourself to the list via the link on iBox) with my thoughts and recommendation(s) based on the recent events tomorrow. I have been in regular communication with Steve and Ted, and have strongly recommended to them the pursuit of a TRO for over two weeks. I’m glad that has finally been put in place. So you can be put at ease about what the contents of the broadcast e-mail will contain: it will be positive, and to the best of my ability and knowledge to the advantage of all investors. I take broadcast e-mails very seriously because of the influence they can have over a number of investors.
The reduction of regular posts is partially because there has not been all that much to say, and partially because, as the moderator, I have to be more careful about what I say (self-imposed caution). There is an increased responsibility as a moderator, because many posters will react and “take to the bank” what is said by a moderator over other people who post here. My goal is to do what I can to benefit and protect our investment. I do not report everything I do here because it will not always be to the benefit of our investment (to post). I have invested many hours and dollars outside of my stock investment in an effort to protect our investment. I would do this to some degree even if I was not the moderator, but I do more because I feel there is an additional responsibility that is connected to being a mod on a board, especially when things are a bit in turmoil.
If there are others you would recommend as an assistant to this board, feel free to post the recommendation here (I read every single post), PM me, or e-mail me at NUBV@NewandGreat.com. If you are interested in assisting on this board, please let me know. When someone is recommended, I go back and read every post they have made and to the best of my ability make a judgment on whether they would be a good fit. I would also happily discuss and hold in high regard the opinion of any current assistant moderator.
I am optimistic about the current efforts which are moving through the court system.
Regards,
Kevin
Almost there. Got a lot of votes! Sorting through them, and we'll have one or two assistants by Monday. :)
NUBV Assistant Request:
The NUBV board is in need of one or more assistants. Anyone who is interested in becoming an assistant of the board can e-mail me at nubv@NewandGreat.com. Please include your alias on the iHub board. I’ll put it up for a vote to those who are on the e-mail distribution list in ibox. The major responsibilities are to maintain order, delete posts that break the rules, and to be helpful to all that post here to the extent knowledge and time allows. I believe it is important that we work as a team, and so this seems to be the best way to pick the people who will look after the board. Since I cannot watch over the board during times where other business keeps me occupied, I hope we can get one or two assistants on the team as quickly as possible. I’ll send this same note out to the e-mail distribution list (those who signed up at the bottom of the iBox). If you do not get that e-mail, be sure to sign up if you’d like to vote, or be considered as an assistant.
Thanks all,
Kevin
I could set up a call... but if all they can say is we cannot say anything per out legal counsel, there really wouldn't be any benefit to doing it. I know when in a seemingly helpless situation it feels better to try and do something. Any individual can call without a formal call, and find the same info… there really isn’t any that can be shared. If anyone wants to put effort towards something, work together on a timeline, and any and all evidence of a scam, or illegal act. In addition to gathering info of that type, any action that is not illegal, but still not cool should go into another category. We can go after any illegal activity through one channel, and the rest through various media channels.
That is why I have not said much over the last few days... You can be sure when I do, you can count on what I say :)
I'll call in my pre-order for one liter later today. :)
Hmm I don't know. Maybe you can split. You go away (split) then you reverse split (come back). I guess you are right reverse splits stick, please stop doing it. Next time you split, practice what you preach and don't reverse split :)
They will put out a PR “when the lawyers say they can/should, and with guidance on what can be said” I said I wouldn’t handle it any differently (based on what I know). Clearly there will be a communication, but no timeframe has been set that I am aware of.
I have had several calls, and have not learned a whole lot. There isn’t much that can be said until things are sorted out a bit more. I wish there was more I could tell you guys, but I can’t without making up a story (which I am not about to do).
I don’t have any news. I think we are still in a holding pattern. This will remain in the hands of lawyers for a while yet. There is a lot at stake, so things won’t move too fast. I am optimistic that when the dust clears there will still be a marketable product. The stock isn’t going to do much until things clear up. Unless some pumpers pick this up, we’ll just have to wait it out. There really isn’t anything to pump, so that is not likely. All I can say is: hang in there guys. I have not sold any of my shares.
I think he is still around. :)
I remember saying that as something that would be nice to do, or a "best practice". I cannot make people do that, and the rules allow for them to not. We have to supplement the flexibility in the rules with our own common sense.
He posted some info. You asked that he post proof. If he does, that will be good for us to know. If he does not, we will take that lack of proof into consideration when we each decide the value of the original post. There really isn’t much more that can be done here. You can send a note to the Admin of the site if you want to seek further action related to that post or the one who posted it. I’d say let it rest at this point, but that is up to you.
Do you know this to be false? I don't.
ok. If that happens, send me the post and I'll delete it.
ok. If that happens, send me the post and I'll delete it.
Thanks man! :) As we learn more, I plan to add to the NewandGreat site. I hope there will be more to say soon.
:) Sorry. I had to. :) Anyway, I hope for good news soon.
I sure would like one. I don't think we'll get one this week. IMO (IMO) "IMO" :)
EVERYTHING that is said here is opinion unless it is stated as fact (and even then should be sufficiently supported). Opinion is the default here. It would be nice if people added the IMO disclaimer, but there is no rule that says they must. Was your last post an opinion or a fact? You didn't state it as an opinion. I'm not trying to be "smart", just making a point. I know you mean well, and have the good intention of moving the conversations in a positive direction. For that I applaud your efforts. There are some things in this world that cannot be controlled. If I were to control the posting of opinions here I would be doing the board a disservice and the value here would go down. Who wants a one-sided biased view of the situation? I know I sure don’t. Post of opinions (stated as such or not) that I see as not supported, and not very plausible, I ignore. If you would like to contribute with your opinion about those posts, you can do so within the rules here. Just reply to each post for which you have a problem with this statement: “That last post is just an opinion” or any other comment you’d wish to share. That is your right as a member of this community. I am not going to silence anyone for posts within the rules of this site.
Yup. I cannot make that stuff stop. I cannot watch the board every minute, but even if I did, most of the posts here are not in violation of the terms of the site. I am not above the rules here. I am as fair as I can be. Keep in mind; this is a volunteer position (MOD). I’m sure others could do a fine job as a MOD here, but for now I’m still happy to help in that way. I think I am a good fit because I can remain level headed, even in tough times. I am not easily flustered, even if people attack me. I am very understanding, and know that some people will lash out because of the frustration of the situation we are all in. I hope everyone will keep this in mind. Also, everyone should know that everyone posting on here is also down at the moment. We all want something great to happen here. Let’s try to keep things as constructive as possible.