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goodbye .05 !!
those MMs are ruthless
what a shake...looks like they got all they could down there
autq looking good...
im in
Billiam, billiam...where did you go?
you can do better than a few RB posts can't you???
ya they report, a ton of form 4's and a notice to file late - then they release the horrible 10Q on friday night after 2 weeks of blatant pumping. Even Lebed was recommending this one...
LOL
cute...
ZKID is just a P & D and this guy billiam bought in when it was way up over .10
Monday it will probably go subpenny after their recent 10Q
4.5 million to consultants and $877 in revenue
Not as much as holding zkid over this weekend when they just released a 10Q that screams FRAUD -
they had $877 in revenue
4.5 million dollars to consultants(only 2 milto admin costs)
increasing O/S - Increasing float thanks to the ex-ceo who's being investigated for fraud
OUCH...monday is gonna be rough
A member for almost a year and no peoplemarks?
I have nothing to hide, find everything you can, I post on RB, Yahoo, and I-Hub all under the same Alias:
some helpful links;
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=jon_e_og
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?user=37624
Yahoo - go to the NWRE board
for some more disclosure;
I own 2 equities right now: cmkx and asyt for a swing trade, mostly sitting on cash and not holding much overnight
Anything else?
so are you going to sell your ZKID in the morning when everyone else is dumping or you gonna wait til the afternoon?
Yes, keep them coming
what is your point?
Is that post not objective?
Was it not on the VNCO board? Did I not make 40 posts on the vnco board? Did I not own vnco?
I especially like this line from my PUMP:
Maybe Urban and CMKX is all some big pump and dump, who knows, but I'll pay to be a part of this scam any day - its too much fun not to be. In the end it goes back to good ole risk vs. reward.
and this one;
some people's theories of $100 billion + seem unreasonable to me so I'm gonna say 10 to 20 billion if they find more than 2 carats/ton..
Do you see the difference between my speculation of a 20 billion value and sterlings infinite valuation?..LMAO...actually, if what shows up in the recent areal survey is infact a Kimberlite it could be valued in the tens of billions or more...
PLEASE: BY ALL MEANS KEEP POSTING
you got me again...having a conversation with another vnco investor about cmkx...
p.s. I did own vnco - I think I actually sold it for a loss to buy cmkx...check out some of my other vnco posts before you take that one grossly out of context
now I am a basher and a pumper...this gets better and better
you got me...
I recommended a stock that was up %100 on 2 ragingbull boards...you figured it all out - i pumped this thing hard, probably got about 2/3 billion shares bought from those posts...DAMN I AM GOOD...LMAO
Why don't you read some of my RECENT posts on this board; most are replied with the word "basher"
let me geuss - a ZKID long - HAHAHA
ha - I'm sure the seller got everything he wanted from it...
not so sure about that:
Time and sales shows 500 million shares that went across @ .0001 - those trades show up as legit. After hours there were 1.5 billion shares that showed going across @ .0003 with the entry T(FX). Those 1.5 billion shares were cancelled...what makes you think those were the .0001 shares?
Its a different number of shares and the .0001 entries don't show any cancellation. If those trades were cancelled they would have read .0001 followed by a (XF) - Those cancelled trades AH were from something else...
yes, alot of pinksheets aren't ALLOWED to be held long or short by MMs so they make their money from the spread
I was referring more to qualifying entities on the pinks and most otcbb stocks, as well as most low float/low volume listed stocks...
MMs do carry positions, and the do make money from them...
http://www.thestreet.com/markets/kristenfrench/10025455.html
http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,528367,00.html
MY FAVORITE PART
The result is nothing short of a hugely profitable–but controversial–new market-making model, one that the Net made possible and Knight seized first in 1995. Instead of making money the old-fashioned way–capturing the slim-profit "spread" between buy and sell orders–Knight began using automated software to fill Net traders' orders instantly and accurately, and deployed its own battalion of traders to act on that information, reaping much bigger rewards.
My point is that that they're not thinking about "investors". Ever. They're watching numbers
That's wrong. Their business revolves around order flow and market making. While market making they are being 'forced' to post on the bid and the ask to absorb whatever demand investors have at any particular time. When there is an imbalance of demand, to either buy or sell a particular stock, they are SUPPOSED to move the price in the corresponding direction in order to elicit the maximum amount of volume at any given time; which by playing the spread should give them enough profit motive to do so.
- BUT - their business also revolves around working orders for 3rd parties, mostly broker/dealers, and have an inside view of the upcoming orders for a particular stock. So, anticipating the order flow(which they actually see right there in front of them) they take a position(which they are allowed to do) to profit off the order flow. It is a known fact, hell its even allowed by NASD and is discussed by the companies who do it. Its supposed to compensate the MMs for risking their capital to internally hedge and provide instant liquidity to the market no matter what direction it moves, or what position they have.
The problem is - the people who make and run the market are the same people who have a vested interest in seeing the market go one way or the other...this creates a HUGE problem
Of course the MMs act on investor psychology, why wouldn't they? They are trading as well, trading large positions of stock AGAINST us...
(Not necessary referring to cmkx - all nasdaq stocks, especially otcbb and ps)
ha, im sure they'll have a chance to get back in
unless, we get the MONSTER PR this weekend - LOL
Do you really believe MMs sit around thinking about whether what they do will have some effect on people who don't have Level II?
Yes I do...I watch L2 everyday all day for a number of stocks, and witness some absolutely INSANE MM behavior...
It's whatever it takes to get people to sell or buy, depending on whether they are net short or long... it's all one big game for them - a game they usually win
I think it was either a mistake or a psychological game
In any event, they weren't "real" trades
so, you're telling me you see all these .0001 trades and you actually wanted to buy more???
why would you want to buy more when the stock's plummeting?
exactly,
NO ONE was selling - it was most likely MMs trying to F*ck with the investors who don't have L2
what would you do if you started seeing all these .0001's print? - you'd probably panic and try and sell some or all your shares
I think it is possible to narrow down the possibilities:
1) It wasn't someone putting in a market order
2) They weren't erroneous; or they would have been canceled on the T&S after close
3) People who had buy orders in @ .0001/.0002/.0003 didn't get filled so those .0001 trades were "pre-arranged" between certain individuals or market makers. Maybe outside the market, most likely between the MM
* There is no way you can spin this as negative - NO ONE was dumping @ .0001 - Look at all those .0003's that came across after those .0001's were printing. What do you think longs were thinking who didn't have L2? They started to panic and threw in their market order to sell. These trades are a BIG positive IMO
wall of bids @ .0003 ALL day
about 500 million went across @ .0001
either a mistake or MM manipulation - my guess manipulation
if the MM is only buying the size he's posting he would be forced to retract his bid and move down
none of the MMs ever moved off the bid, if it was a large market order it would have all filled @ .0003 - there were 14 market makers bidding for that stock. They could have probably handled a couple billion shares before moving down to .0002
those .0001's are very strange and were NOT retail
No investor in their right mind would sell @ .0001 - nor could they. This was most likely MMs trading between themselves. Now the question is why would MMs want to make things look so bleak??
hmmmmm....
what the f*ck
I get home, look at the low for the day and its .0001 - I look at Time & Sales and it shows a bunch sold @ .0001
Not to mention the fact that there were about 15 mms on the bid all day.
These trades were either erroneous, or between MM. No one in their right mind wound sell those shares @ .0001 - You could probably sell 5x that amount at MARKET and that .0003 wall of MMs would still stay pretty strong.
So, those trades were either a mistake, transacted outside the market, or between market makers. My bet is they were MMs trying to shake shares, from people who do not have L2, just trying to make it look like the stock was crashing - this would also explain all those sells @ .0003
I find it interesting that today is the dividend record today, there were the more MMs on the bid than I've ever seen, and we see a boatload of shares go across @ .0001
HMMMMMMMMMM...
short PXLW @ 10.97
will cover if it breaks 11
anyone know what's going on with NYFX?
back in ASYT @ 4.78
to bad its a scam(might need to wait a sec for chart to load)
P.S. I think Greenspan is a moron
even if you don't like what he's done at the fed bank you have to admit he does have one NICE comb over...
out of ASYT near HOD - will re-enter on dip
ASYT, steady accumulation today...
great bottom play, semis turning, good book-to-bill last night
a break of 5 will really get this going...
taking some profits on ASYT today....will hold the rest looking for a break of 5.00
in WIN @ 5.90 for a bottom play