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That was not a rant or a bash - It sounds like a 100% correct assessment of the current situation. Unfortunately I find it hard to believe this BOD would ever replace their gifted CEBSer. I highly doubt that the BOD is independent, remember - they are feeding from the same trough as the CEO, they have no incentive to do the right thing - their only incentive is to stay on board with the scam.
Tell DM its time to put up or shut up - NO MORE MONEY FOR YOU!!!
I cannot think of any reason to put another penny into this - I see years and years of 000 progress. I'm stuck holding this bag o sh.t until someday when I maybe, just maybe break even, I'm not holoding my breath.
HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO
Anybody out there?
What's up with AWNE?
Gooodddddddddbyyyyeeeeeee
Agree - It always just around the corner. I'm putting EVFN in my ZIPZ pile until they prove they can do anything. Lack of Gov't funding is just another red flag.
WiseEd
I use Zecco for the flat $4.50 buy or sell - unlimited shares.
I have some stocks in a Firstrade account - I like their research platform.
I also have a Sharebuilder account - This is best for long term investing. If a stock is not fairly stable and does not meet their requirements it will say "____ not available thru Sharebuilder", This was helpful when I started out but somewhat restrictive when I wanted to play in sub-pennies.
otcbb.com also provides me a view of top movers and losers and quick access to filings. IH is invaluable when you can connect with others to discuss a particular stock, just be sure to take everything with a grain of salt, Pumpers and Bashers can appear at anytime.
Personally I don't settle for 100% return, I usually only sell if I see a problem or want some funds for a new pick. I prefer 1500 to 2500% but that is me- everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.
Detonate and WiseEd
I didn't sellout of CTIC, I took 1/2 off the table, I too fear getting out too soon. The shares I have left are at a cost basis of .00 plus I was able to put "free" money to work in other stocks. I also still have a small number of SPNG, This one I probably should have totally cashed out, but that fear of missing something keeps me in it.
I use a really bizarre(probably wrong) way of choosing my buys. The biggest mistake I made in the past was buying a stock after getting the symbol from an email- DON'T DO IT. I'm also a tightwad and I usually only make small investments $5 to 50.
This board really isn't the place for my stock picking style, but I would be more than happy to reveal my portfolio stocks and how I pick mine. Email me Kcaligator@hotmail.com
FYI- I got into SUNV because they are local and I have talked to their shipping dept about buying from my company. Very clean operation, I was impressed and started researching them and here we are.
Detonate - Very thoughtful and honest post.
I do not post much but welcome to SUNV. I got in at .09 a while back. I'm long here - I think it is only a matter of time on this one.
Unike you, I spread myself across a broad spectrum of stocks, more than I can actively do DD on. I find Ihub to be a great way to get a read on a stock I may be interested in. I try to disregard pumpers and bashers.
I've only been investing since July '08. I rarely sell any of my holdings but I did feel compelled to sell SPNG (in at .008 out at .14), CTIC (in at .07 sold some at 1.72), RNWF (in at .0003 out at .0024). I love this game!!!! But I am holding some poor stocks also. 2 that went bust (less than $75 total loss).
Looks like shares are beginning to be tradable from some brokerages - I don't think the real drop will occur until all current investors can trade their shares. Zecco still has not converted my EVFN shares. Kindof strange that I can buy new shares but can't unload my old ones.
I think this is keeping the PPS artificially high - We will know when all shares have been converted and investors decide to bail or buy.
Big - you really think it will take 6 - 12 months? I think it will occur sooner rather than later. Just my opinion I've only been losing on this stock since EBOF days. I have seen nothing that makes me think this is anything other than a share selling machine for DM's own benefit - He could give a rat's .ss about shareholders or value.
Rocky,
So it may be possible they can actually get cells without destroying the embryo, the NIH just wouldn't approve Fed funding.
With the new positive direction in regards to stem cells it is possible that what the NIH previously "rebuffed" could possibly become "The" technology used at some time in the future.
I remain committed to my long position on ACTC. The NIH and all govt agencies have never been accused of being able to look outside the box.
The reason I first got into ACTC was because I read that they were able to extract the cells without destroying the embryo. If it is true why is that fact always left out of the PRs from ACTC.
If they can harvest cells without destroying the embryo this eliminates most of the ethical arguments against stem cell research. SO AGAIN I ASK - WHY IS THIS NEVER MENTIONED? Are they able to extract cells without destroying the embryo or not?
That is my most important question regarding ACTC - I hope someone can answer it.
Thanks
ERNIE
If you are a daytrader there are some requirements on balance in account. Like I said I invest so I do not trade in and out of positions daily or even weekly - I usually hold until I hit a minimum of 800 percent (most of the time I hold out for 1500 percent).
You can check out the daytrader requirements at Zecco.
I pay 4.50 buy or sell unlimited shares - no added percentage for sub pennies. The flat rate allows me to jump in and out of positions when I make some $$$$. Have not had any issues with Zecco.
FYI - I also have Sharebuilder and Firstrade - Zecco saves me a lot of $$ because I consider myself an active investor - I'm not a trader.
No charge on my Zecco account.
What are the odds of this staying above .01 when the brokerages finally allow selling of EVFN. Zecco notified that the conversion is taking longer than normal. Could this mean that the gain today is artificial or manipulated by EVFN to fake investors into thinking it will go up post R/S?
My gut says it will return to its .0001 roots sooner than later.
Something just stinks with this co., maybe the fact that they are always "about" to do things but they never accomplish it.
Thoughts - not interested in pumper opinions - would like to hear what other longs think.
Thanks. Great Group looking out for the little guy - kinda like DC passing legislation to help us "ordinary people". Stealing is Stealing whether you think it is in my best interest or not - You took something of mine that I may have been happy with. I had no problem with my shares at .0001(that is what I paid) so that is what it should be. Reducing my shares so you might or might not be able to swindle money from new investors is not in my best interest. .0001 will arrive long before they could have hoped for.
Uplisting? Maybe to the worst performing POS still trading. EOD at .02 things are speeding downhill, can't wait for the crash - there will be no burn because they haven't made fuel yet, but I'm sure its coming online shortly - Yeah right.
Watch out----falling prices ---- Sorry that's Walmart.
This has fallen faster than ZIPPI-ZIPN-ZIPZ after their latest split. EVFN appears poised to turn out even worse than ZIPPI.
They can hope to dupe others, even some current holders who cannot accept the fact that this company is a share selling machine. I do not remember hearing that a 1/600 split was voted on or approved by shareholders. The last I heard was that the approved 1/40 split would not be needed. (I guess they were right, they wanted more). Please show me where this R/S was approved by shareholders.
I was long but now I would sell if it would cover my costs. There are other subs that haven't failed in everything it has promised like this one has. I don't think I'll buy even when it returns to .0001 - this company is a failure.
Best of Luck to the Longs. I will return to watching this decline from the sidelines. Name one big money investor that wants a piece of this S.
If you got $36.00 a share - SELL SELL SELL FOR GODS SAKE MORTIMER SELL SELL SELL
Kuan,
You have way too many stops between .06 and .0001 - I believe it will be a quick trip to .0001. I gambled on EBOF, EVFL and now own the current crapper - I will put nothing else into this.
Hell, my neighbor down the street can make his own biodiesel, why can't this company do it? My neighbor(as far as I know) hasn't stolen investors' money to achieve his goal of making his fuel. A good idea headed by a poor manager will turn out poorly - This is the case with EBOF etc etc and probably more etcs to come.
I think I'll go down to the neighbor's house today, have a couple of beers and see what it'll cost me to start brewing my own biodiesel. Local is the way to commercialize these fuels.
EBOF was one of my first stock picks, I had a kind of attachment to it, but now I know I should just buy Powerball tickets instead of this stock - I have a better chance of hitting Powerball than this group ever producing any value for shareholders. They do seem to be able to sell stock - I would be surprised if they even know what biofuel is - I know they cannot make it or sell it.
Please explain how an uplisting is going to help. I have been in since EBOF and it seems this co is always "about" to do something, well all I have seen they "can" do is R/S. No doubt if they any kind of management or board they would be able to uplist when they prove they can complete a thought.
Using an uplisting goal as the basis for stealing from shareholders doesn't seem like any uplisting would survive very long.
I'm stuck in this mud, but I don't have to add to it. Not at all impressed with this sleazy group - Again a R/S is a piss poor way to achieve an uplisting - How about making some Biofuel and selling it - THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GOAL OF ebof.
WOW - Whole new batch of Pumpers here. Still the same old hype - "Its gonna be like Ebay" ---
New investors will become the newest losers to this sham co. and crooks running it.
BUYER BEWARE
This cat won't bounce. It has tried 3 other "bounces" after R/S - IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. I too am watching for the end of this scam and the scammers banned from any new publicly traded companies - You and I know they are dead - I cannot figure out why anyone would put a penny in this thing. Do you think a pump is forthcoming since they stole all our money? They certainly have enough to pay for it.
NYPharmer - Stick with it - Just wait a little to see if she drops. I try to add at 3-4cent intervals. DON'T GET IN DEEPER THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LET RIDE FOR SOME TIME.
Be careful who you listen to - the board has started getting a lot of new attention in a short amount of time. Yes it appears we have some pumpers or pumper wanna bes. Use your own judgement not someone else's.
I told you before I've been in ACTC since July '08 and I have no plans on letting any go for a long time or $2pps and then I would only let go of 25 percent.
I'm just a working stiff tired of Powerball so I pick what I think are promising stocks. I have had only one go belly up completely- I PLAY RESPONSIBLY, I have a family to take care of.
No one can rain on my parade on this one. I add to my position from time to time(in my Zecco acct), When I first started I knew nothing and used Sharebuilder. I no longer trade in that account I only occassionally check its performance. I then moved onto Firstrade but found Zecco was the cheapest way to trade in what I wanted to buy.
I have no regrets on any of the buys I have made on ACTC, like I said I'm long, I wish I knew then what I know now because I would have plowed much more into this from the beginning. This is one of those rare pennies that moves without any pumping. I added a little more last week @.108. I'm a happy camper - This is a long term investment not a trade for me.
GLTA
NYPharmer1,
This is the 1st stock I ever bought back in July'08 @.025 - Honestly, I think this will be my retirement. This company has some amazing technology, I look forward to the day they start using it for all of our illnesses.
The most powerful part, for me anyway, is the fact that they are the only company I know of that has come up with a process to extract cells without destroying the embryo - THIS IS HUGE - They do not mention this part as much as they should - Think of all the ethical questions that become a mute point - The embryo is not destroyed. I simply do not understand why this stock hasn't skyrocketed past BTIM and GERN.
Uncle Scammy should be funding this company with just a small piece of the money it has given the banks, GM, Chrysler, AIG, and foreign aid(buying influence or bribes). This is what the real healthcare debate should be about, think of the possibilities if this company succeeds.
BUYER BEWARE$$$ The only reverse you will see is another split. They love to steal money from shareholders. Their business model is just as worthless as the scum running this scam.
Where are the warrants?
BUYER BEWARE
Everyone should be starting each post with the warning. We cannot save everyone but we should help Hubbers steer clear of this scam.
I'm down to .38 so they got .38 cents left to take from me. This stock has been yet another reminder that we all fall for a loser every once in a while. I have a few non performing stocks and the one thing they all have in common was that I bought after hearing about it - The stocks I pick from a criteria search seem to go up 400-3000% before falling off again. I have begun to put sell orders GTC at 1500% on half of holding. A couple of more sells and I'll have 90% of my money back and still have positions in companies I picked for one reason or another.
I use my Zecco account for most of my penny trades - $4.50 buy/sell - unlimited shares. Never have to "call broker to place this order".
BUYER BEWARE: R/S ADDICTS RUNNING THIS SCAM CO.
At .0001 it is overvalued. Find something better-where you at least have a shot at making a decent return- this stock should
be pulled and never to be offered again. PUT THE CROOKS IN JAIL.
Pumping?
I get nervous when an "incredible" value is "hidden" from the guys who make their living finding undervalued stocks. Isn't it strange that this "compensated" research floods my email so I can jump in without any DD?
I'm staying out of this one, it is too much like the BEEI hype,
yeah I got stuck with some of that winner, but not anywhere near a 1.00. I like to gamble but looking at this board and the limited interest up til now is a red flag for me. There isn't much I wouldn't buy a lotto ticket on but this one has no good info that hasn't been "compensated"
BE CAREFUL AND GOOD LUCK.
I kinda remember something about GLCC being a part of MONA, LDSR, and HTDS. Mona comes out every once in a while trying to explain why they cannot make a distribution they announced a year or 2 ago.
I'm long GLCC started accumulating back at .005pps. I would have to check my 2008 executions to be sure of pps when I started. I do remember I bought my lotto ticket on it because the 52wk hi at the time was about a dollar.
I just don't do a lot of DD on a sub penny- I throw a couple $$$ down and let it ride. I don't sell until up 1000 percent or more - unless I get wind of another R/S - They kill me.
I got into this one after I saw their Sarasota Operation. It was a pure spec play - but I think it will get onto radar soon - It appears to be a real company with real products going out the door.
I'm sorry I didn't buy more when it was .05-.06 pps, but I'm a worker with limited funds for investing- Maybe this is the one that helps my capitol structure.
I like this one because because it is local.
I like that proposal. I only have a small investment in GMXS(even smaller after the RS). It is obvious that some realistic share structure is needed. I have not seen anything good come from this stock since I bought in.
I got my proxy statement on Sept. 24th - 4 days after the meeting. I cannot continue to buy into a company that cannot even get proxy materials out in a timely manner.
Best of luck to you Drs. I fear you own a lot of something that will continue to decline in value unless management completes something. Like they say "Talk is cheap".