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When I try to buy shs of AEGY in my TD Ameritrade accout, the trade does not go through and I get this message.
"Order cannot be processed due to a DTC chill restricting the ability to transfer a security and settle the trade."
Can anyone enlighten me ??
Futures are looking good for the MJ sector!!
TD Ameritrade just posted AAL distribution ...
VERY Pleased!!
You are holding 70 MJ stocks? I only have 26. I'll have to get on my horse and do more DD on this sector. Hail to King Long!
Holders of old AMR stock, you should be feeling better now about your American Airlines shares
By Terry Maxon
tmaxon@dallasnews.com
9:08 am on February 7, 2014 | Permalink
(CORRECTED 5:10 P.M. Original post had the Dec. 6 AAMRQ price wrong at $10.39. It was $11.39. Thanks, Richard Tran)
When the new American Airlines Group distributed a pittance of their stock to the old AAMRQ shareholders on Dec. 9, we heard from a lot of panic-stricken investors. And some depressed ones.
Everybody should be in a better mood now. You’ve got a lot more shares than on Dec. 9, and you’ve got more coming.
Of course, that wasn’t the way it appeared to many holders of stock in the old AMR Corp. on Dec. 9. They thought they had lost most of their investment over the weekend.
The initial distribution on Dec. 9 was 0.0665 shares of the new company, ticker symbol, AAL, for each share of AAMRQ held on Dec. 6, its last trading day.
That meant someone who held 1,000 AAMRQ shares on Dec. 6, worth $11,390 at AAMRQ’s close of $11.39 that day, would have 66.5 shares of AAL, worth about $1,636 at AAL’s Dec. 9 close of $24.60. In other words, it appeared they lost nearly $10,000 over the weekend.
Many investors thought that was all they were going to get. But they were in line to get more, based on the terms of the merger between American Airlines and US Airways and the formula for stock distribution to all the interested parties.
Our advice then was to wait it out because your initial distribution on Dec. 9 was just the beginning. Holders of stock in the old AMR Corp. would get additional shares after 30 days, 60 days, 90 days and 120 days.
On Jan. 8, American Airlines Group announced that AAMRQ holders would get another 0.1319 shares of AAL stock as the 30-day distribution.
And on Friday, the company announced the 60-day distribution: another 0.175 shares.
So adding that all up, each AAMRQ share on Dec. 6 has now brought in 0.3737 shares of AAL, with the 90-day and 120-day distributions still ahead.
Based on the AAL closing price of $34.66 on Thursday, that one share of AAMRQ – which closed at $11.39 on Dec. 6 – has now brought its owner $12.95 in AAL shares.
If the March 9 and April 8 distributions equal the Jan. 8 and Feb. 7 distributions, a share of AAMRQ stock would bring about 0.68 shares of AAL. Based on Thursday’s close, that would be worth $23.58.
Of course, the price of AAL shares could go down between now and the final distribution in April. That means more shares would have to go to the unsecured creditors to satisfy their debt.
But we’re probably at the point where we can assume that AAMRQ shareholders will come out pretty well in this merger and bankruptcy reorganization.
Note, 6:35 p.m. Friday: I’d like to thank Richard Tran, writer for Hiep’s Finance, for pointing out that I had the wrong Dec. 6 price for AAMRQ and that all my comparative calculations were therefore incorrect. Hiep’s Finance is a personal finance blog that followed the AA-US Air merger.
I would recommend that interested parties, particularly holders of AAMRQ, go to the above link to read Richard’s analysis of the AAMRQ distribution.
Holders of old AMR stock, you should be feeling better now about your American Airlines shares
By Terry Maxon
tmaxon@dallasnews.com
9:08 am on February 7, 2014 | Permalink
(CORRECTED 5:10 P.M. Original post had the Dec. 6 AAMRQ price wrong at $10.39. It was $11.39. Thanks, Richard Tran)
When the new American Airlines Group distributed a pittance of their stock to the old AAMRQ shareholders on Dec. 9, we heard from a lot of panic-stricken investors. And some depressed ones.
Everybody should be in a better mood now. You’ve got a lot more shares than on Dec. 9, and you’ve got more coming.
Of course, that wasn’t the way it appeared to many holders of stock in the old AMR Corp. on Dec. 9. They thought they had lost most of their investment over the weekend.
The initial distribution on Dec. 9 was 0.0665 shares of the new company, ticker symbol, AAL, for each share of AAMRQ held on Dec. 6, its last trading day.
That meant someone who held 1,000 AAMRQ shares on Dec. 6, worth $11,390 at AAMRQ’s close of $11.39 that day, would have 66.5 shares of AAL, worth about $1,636 at AAL’s Dec. 9 close of $24.60. In other words, it appeared they lost nearly $10,000 over the weekend.
Many investors thought that was all they were going to get. But they were in line to get more, based on the terms of the merger between American Airlines and US Airways and the formula for stock distribution to all the interested parties.
Our advice then was to wait it out because your initial distribution on Dec. 9 was just the beginning. Holders of stock in the old AMR Corp. would get additional shares after 30 days, 60 days, 90 days and 120 days.
On Jan. 8, American Airlines Group announced that AAMRQ holders would get another 0.1319 shares of AAL stock as the 30-day distribution.
And on Friday, the company announced the 60-day distribution: another 0.175 shares.
So adding that all up, each AAMRQ share on Dec. 6 has now brought in 0.3737 shares of AAL, with the 90-day and 120-day distributions still ahead.
Based on the AAL closing price of $34.66 on Thursday, that one share of AAMRQ – which closed at $11.39 on Dec. 6 – has now brought its owner $12.95 in AAL shares.
If the March 9 and April 8 distributions equal the Jan. 8 and Feb. 7 distributions, a share of AAMRQ stock would bring about 0.68 shares of AAL. Based on Thursday’s close, that would be worth $23.58.
Of course, the price of AAL shares could go down between now and the final distribution in April. That means more shares would have to go to the unsecured creditors to satisfy their debt.
But we’re probably at the point where we can assume that AAMRQ shareholders will come out pretty well in this merger and bankruptcy reorganization.
Note, 6:35 p.m. Friday: I’d like to thank Richard Tran, writer for Hiep’s Finance, for pointing out that I had the wrong Dec. 6 price for AAMRQ and that all my comparative calculations were therefore incorrect. Hiep’s Finance is a personal finance blog that followed the AA-US Air merger.
I would recommend that interested parties, particularly holders of AAMRQ, go to the above link to read Richard’s analysis of the AAMRQ distribution.
Scottrade don't know Jack!
Why am I sleepin with one eye open...
Oh I know, 2nd AAL distribution tomorrow!
Gonna add AEGY today too to my 25 MJ firecrackers!
Got me about 10 of these lil firecrackers.
Gonna pop pop pop!
Thanks rocco2
Just waiting patiently for our next distribution.
Life is good for us AAMRQ longs.
AAL Long and Strong...
Where Does Cash-Rich American Airlines Go From Here?
Jan. 23, 2014 2:36 AM ET | 2 comments | About: AAL, Includes: AAMRQ, LCC
Disclosure: I am long AAL. (More...)
On Friday, American Airlines Group (AAL) announced that it has about $10.3 billion in cash and highly-liquid short term investments. Given that the company's current market cap is at $22.39 billion, the company is trading a little more than two times its cash holdings and it is still highly profitable. Usually, when we think about the companies which trade at levels close to their cash holdings, we see companies that are not profitable and losing money, and people are wondering whether these companies will even survive to see tomorrow. Profitable companies like American Airlines usually trade for far above the book value, especially at this time when almost the entire market enjoys rich valuations.
In the last few years, airline companies achieved strong margins due to elimination of routes that are not very profitable, reducing their leverage on volatile oil prices, increasing their ticket prices when the demand is hot, negotiating new deals with existing employees and the unions representing them, buying new planes that are more fuel-efficient than their older planes and consolidating by merging with other airlines. Prior to the merger, US Airways (LCC) increased its profitability and net profits by nearly 300% and American Airlines was getting highly profitable following the company's bankruptcy.
Currently, many large airline companies enjoy historically high load factors (the ratio of total seats to booked-seats per mile traveled), and air travel is getting more popular. If this trend continues, the sky will be the limit for the airline companies (no pun intended). At the current rate, passenger traffic seems to increase in mid-single digit percentage year-to-year and Americans spend more on each ticket they purchase compared to the previous year. In fact, ticket prices went up for 4 years in a row while the number of passengers also rose simultaneously.
According to the last update of the company, it expects to spend between $3.00 and $3.11 per gallon of mainline jet fuel. The US Airways part of the company is expected to spend about 10 cents less per gallon compared to American Airlines due to its practice of not hedging.
Since the debtholders of the previous American Airlines (OTCQB:AAMRQ) became the shareholders of the new company, the debt of the new company will mostly consist of the debt of US Airways, which was around $5.5 billion prior to the merger.
Currently, we don't know the exact book value of the new American Airlines but we will know it once the company announces its quarterly earnings. We know that the company's assets will shrink a little bit because the Department of Justice asked it to reduce some of its take-off and landing spots in an effort to prevent the company from becoming "too big" as a part of a settlement that was reached late last year. For example, in the nation's capital, American Airlines Group will lose 104 take-off spots.
Last year was a highly profitable year for both US Airways and American Airlines, and the two companies are expecting to achieve about $1 billion in synergy as a result of the merger, which means that the profitability of the merged company should be about $1 billion more than the sum of two companies. For the entire year of 2014, the analysts expect American Airlines Group to generate $42.30 billion in revenues and $3.52 per share in net income, with estimates ranging from $2.60 to $5.03 per share. By 2015, the company is expected to earn about $4.01 per share as a result of the synergies due to the merger. By 2015, American Airlines Group will have a P/E ratio of 4.14 excluding its cash and short term investments. I understand that most airline companies trade for low P/E ratios due to the high risk nature of the industry, a history of bankruptcies and cyclicity of airline companies; however, we are passing through a time when airline companies are living their golden age. This is a time when many airline companies are bigger, stronger, more profitable and the future for them looks brighter than any time in history. Through the past bankruptcies and lack of profitability, airline companies learned a lot of lessons and they learned how not to repeat the mistakes of the past.
If American Airlines Group can continue on its path of being strongly profitable, use its profits to pay off its debt, keep improving its balance sheet and convince the investors that it is here to stay, I don't see why it shouldn't double in market value in a few years. Once things get stable, I can also see the company buying back shares in large numbers in order to increase the value for the investors. The company had to issue 746 million shares as a result of the merger in order to pay off the debtholders of the old American Airlines and the current share count is pretty high. Reducing the share count of the company should probably be one of the first priorities of the management once the dust settles.
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Did we have folks get back in at the dip before 10:00am?
My TD Ameritrade just posted.
All I can say is... WOW!!
Sounds like an offer I can't refuse REFUSE!
How many Exideq shares does one have to own to be On Tne List?
Well done DJ Kazi
This article is the answer
to alot of our questions about this
stock and its conversions.
Again..Well done Lad!
Zturk has a good question. Does anyone have the $64,000 answer.
Looks like "Christmas" comes early for us this year, YAHOO!!
Fellow investors-
Does AAMRQ shs automatically turn into AAL shs upon BK exit on Dec. 9?
Just added another 1000 shs . Judge I'm just crazy about this opportunity
in again at 11.94
LCC closes at 24. A high. Life is good!
Back in too. Gotta keep the Faith!
Would anyone be buying in today at $9.57…
or has this flight departed??
Just watched "Mad Money". A caller asked Cramer what he thought about USAIrways. Cramer opined that should the merger go through LCC would most likely go to $30- BRING IT!
The big "8" is in sight!
6.30 WTF??
Yes Sir. Feelin lucky indeed!!
Bought at small boatload at today's dip of 6.91... yeah baby!!
I meant 200 shs
Just picked up another 20shs. Up up and away!
"aint no stoppin us now".
The Risk/Reward Potential Is Looking Better for American Airlines
By Alexander MacLennan | More Articles
October 19, 2013 | Comments (0)
Until recently, shares of American Airlines parent company AMR (NASDAQOTH: AAMRQ ) have really fit the category of an all-or-nothing bet on the airline's merger with US Airways (NYSE: LCC ) . But a recent report from JPMorgan Chase combined with another rally in airline shares has fueled the possibility that AMR shareholders may have less downside than previously thought.
An investment bank's opinion
While analysts shouldn't be relied upon for all opinions, their input is worth examining as part of typical investment research. A recent rally in AMR shares was fueled by such remarks from JPMorgan as the investment bank gave a bullish report on shares of the bankrupt airline.
For one, JPMorgan raised its opinion on the chances of the merger's completion from 50% previously to 60% today. But what is of especially interesting to note is that JPMorgan sees a recovery value of around $3.50 per share for AMR common shareholders even if the merger fails.
A better bet
Statistically speaking, a double-or-nothing bet makes sense if the odds that the event will occur are 50%. However, based upon the optimistic value in the event of a merger given by JPMorgan of $13 per AMR common share, AMR common shares have an upside potential of around 120%, rather than the typical 100% that would exist in a double-or-nothing play.
Adding in the view that downside is not $0 but is instead around $3.50 sets this up as an investment with 120% upside and 41% downside. As a bonus, the view of a 60% chance of a merger rather than a 50% chance seen in a double-or-nothing further sweetens the pot.
But why would AMR shares be worth more on their own than they would have been before?
Profits from a bankrupt airline
We normally don't see bankrupt companies as profitable, especially bankrupt airlines. But AMR is turning that narrative on its head by reporting a $289 million profit for the third quarter. Even more exciting is that if it weren't for various restructuring charges, the profit would have come in at $530 million, making it the most profitable quarter in the airline's history.
AMR is showing off its earnings power, which should help to increase the value of a standalone reorganized AMR. And when there is more valuable stock to distribute, common shareholders are much more likely to see a return on their investment.
Industry rally
One of the reasons AMR common shares were left for dead in 2012, trading well below $1 each, was that it was assumed that even if a merger took place, nothing would be left over for AMR common shareholders.
But from late 2012 to today, airline shares have posed one of the biggest rallies in their history, as major airlines solidly outperformed major indexes. Shares of US Airways and Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL ) are both making post-recession highs on strong momentum that has seen shares of both airlines up more than 100% since their 2012 lows.
Airlines have ridden the waves of improving earnings, coupled with more bullish investor sentiment, driving the value of the entire industry higher as airline investments become tolerable to hold in one's portfolio.
For common shares of a standalone AMR, this is particularly important. For the old shares of AMR to see value, the new, reorganized American Airlines must be valuable enough for its newly issued shares to pay off creditors with value left over for AMR common stockholders. But as investors have been assigning higher multiples to airline stocks, the value of a reorganized American Airlines rises as well. This, in turn, should create more value of stock to divide up among AMR stakeholders, thereby increasing payouts to AMR common shareholders.
Still risky, but not as much
A combination of strong profits from AMR and a continuing rally in airline shares has led to a situation where the downside for AMR common shares is now probably above $0. Because of these factors, I mostly agree with JPMorgan's position on AMR common shares.
However, I can see the potential for a rise above $13 per AMR share if US Airways shares rally after a merger is approved. Looking at the bankruptcy documents, AMR common shares should be worth a little over $14 if US Airways shares are at $22 at the time of the the merger. With US Airways shares at $21.14 as of Oct. 18, US Airways shares would only need to rise 4% to hit the $22 level -- a reasonable level of gain in the event of a successful merger.
Of course, investors still face the risk the merger won't go forward, in which case the severe downside still applies. In addition, if the market sours on airline shares, AMR common shares could become worthless, as the reorganized American Airlines would have less total value.
Overall, this is still not an investment for the faint of heart. But for those with money they can afford to lose, the odds look at little better at AMR.
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US Airways Third Quarter 2013 Financial Conference Call To Be Webcast
4:21p ET October 16, 2013 (PR NewsWire)
US Airways Group, Inc. (NYSE:LCC) will conduct a live audio webcast of its third quarter 2013 financial results conference call with the financial community on Wednesday, Oct. 23, at 12:30 p.m. ET (9:30 a.m. PT).
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120103/LA28814LOGO)
The webcast will be available to the public on a listen-only basis at the company's website, www.usairways.com.
do I hear a lucky 7 for monday?