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Cred has to go to paintpimp for scouting the CO location - which has helped tremendously piece this together -
Knowing Biochar Now has their own plant on large acreage is huge to the overall Vega equation - imo
lol, we were writing the exact same answer!
That 3/24/14 PR was huge and Mr. Molen the Vega CEO should be given huge credit for the find and having his head screwed on straight - imo
He said in the last several PR's he's after shareholder value - this latest move in Colorado adds major shareholder value! imo
Adding someone to the Advisory Board is forming a partnership of one kind - which is very different from not having any business interest or additive association between two parties - or shall we say being competitors in the same business space - imo
We could also call it "strategic relationship" if you like -
The last Advisory Board member added, became an official JV partner shortly thereafter - and that CEO didn't have their own plant - so given this new Board addition does have their own plant already in use, it just makes sense as the next step for Vega - imo
I'll just say this -
Anyone who understands how business is done today, understands the concept that is called Strategic Partnerships - It's a concept that started gaining popularity in the early 90's and today it's the norm -
What I like about VGPR CEO is he clearly understands the concept and lives by it - because without that understanding it's hard to get much growth going organically - imo
As far as current biochar production, I believe this is a new entry for Vega and which makes the new relationship with James so key and such a great "get" - espesh because James is already producing and selling into the MJ/Hemp grower space imo
By his comments in the PR, James likes being connected to a public company - Vega also has clients in biocoal where they can cross sell the biochar, and vice-versa - James has a turn-key plant that can pump out product immediately and if need be can be customized for the other products like biocoal - where he gets a piece of that action -
glorious! imo
With the last key new partnership news in Colorado, the pps should be living in the 3s/4s awaiting next news - imo
Which by my yesterday dd post on historical events, I believe will be JV news with Biochar Now - imo
It's such a win/win for both parties that I can't see it not happening - imo
It looked like there was a mini-squeeze on 3/14 which brought the pps up to the 3s level -
But beginning Monday 3/16, they began shorting it hard again at .004/.0041 - believe me I watched it happen -
then they've been selling short every day since then to knock it back to here -
my guess is there is about 45-50mill+ short as of now so another squeeze is coming - imo
best news is the float has gotten even tighter since the last squeeze so even more coiled up now - imo
$VGPR great look at the chart up-trend along the 25 - imo
lol, tongue in cheek news - imo
Real big news on the way! - imo
lol, your alias says it all brotherman! imo
$VGPR Great story brewing here! imo
That's also as of almost 2 weeks ago already - short has been very active last two weeks so the number as of today is much higher than 5mill - imo
I agree - they won't be able to hold this back much longer! - imo
$VGPR The 2yr 9mo view of the chart, and the float 50 - 75% lower than most MJ pennies hitting that level, combined with the huge biochar/biocoal industry at hand, suggest to me this can easily find its wasy to .03 - .04 in pretty short order with the right intention behind it - imo
I agree - the new legal MJ/Hemp market opening up this year has given many a company like $VGPR new life to be able to create a market demand for their products or what they do as a service, where there was not one before -
That's why many Pink company's have floundered the past decade -
Good ideas, just no market demand -
I said it before the new standard for most MJ player stocks now is .01++ as a base -
If you're $VGPR and you only have a 559mill float much bought up already and being held long-term, you can realize that standard more quickly and even higher because you have kept your float way down -
I'm happy for the guy that he's finally pulling the Co together after many years of struggling - imo
I meticulously laid out my case in favor of that today using historical pattern -
you must have missed it - imo
I agree - imo
unless you absolutely need it asap as a grower, b/c of the sensitivity to Vega, I'd give the guy at least 10 days and for this thing to settle before you try to go. They could very well be hammering out the new agreement as we speak which takes their time -
imo
looks to me now ready to retest that .007 then blast through it - imo
nice - let's bust these guy's short play and this will run hard - imo
I see more of a JV than merger since the guy is one of the biggest already established quality biochar producers out there -
he's also an attorney as well -
But the new JV would be a subsid of Vega, so there is all the bennies of a merger there as well as the instant revenues 'in' to the weed/hemp market in at least Colorado and probably Washington State for starters - imo
Vega has Euro connections that would also be turnkey for the new Biochar JV pot/hemp growers play overseas - win/win - imo
I would make this suggestion to anyone further looking to contact the CEO of Biochar Now -
1. He has just been named to the Vega Advisory Board as of yesterday -
2. At present, since yesterday, SEVERAL people have either contacted him, rolled by his plant, or emailed him to verify he is what Vega said he was - which they have posted on this board confirming he is -
3. If you keep contacting the guy incessantly at this stage, he's likely to get pissed off -
4. If he gets pissed off enough, realizing his partnering with Vega means constantly being bugged by shareholders, asking him if he's real, he may decide to back out -
5. Any more contacting him to ask him if he's who Vega says he is, can only hurt Vega's credibility that their shareholders don't trust them -
6. It's likely he will be JV'ing with Vega -
7. I recomend anyone who wants to go tour his plant, no matter if they live right next door, to wait at least until a JV is officially announced by Vega -
Conclusion: there is currently more than enough proof the guy is real - consider calling off the dogs now and leave the poor guy alone so he can run his business -
imo
$VGPR lol Shorty trying to hold this under the 10ma at .0028 -
For those who don't know charts once the 10 is broken after the pps dropped below it, it's bad news for shorty - imo
$VGPR lol Also evident was how fast shorty block-stacked the .0028 ask with 3mill when that buying came in into .0028 -
Shorty: your days are numbered and you will run away like a girl - imo
hubble got you shorty! lol
$VGPR Well, there ya go - if anyone has any doubts here the shorter is alive and well - you just saw it with that eod paint preventing the green close -
these pukes will fry hard very soon! imo
$VGPR MUST READ - Just saw this very interesting fact -
Well, well, looks like I should be right about my theory of an official JV with Biochar Now in Colorado coming next-
Why? I just noticed a few days before the last JV was announced on March 7 with Agri-Tech, their Founder and President Joseph James was ADDED to the VGPR ADVISORY BOARD -
Vega Biofuels Adds Torrefaction Expert to Advisory Committee to Assist in the Manufacturing of It's Bio-coal and Biochar Products
Mar 04, 2014 (ACCESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- NORCROSS, GA / ACCESSWIRE / MARCH 4, 2014 / VEGA BIOFUELS, INC. (Pink Sheets VGPR) announced today it has added a leading torrefaction expert to the Company's Advisory Committee.
Joseph J. James, founder and president, of Agri-Tech Producers, LLC, whose company has exclusively licensed and commercialized innovative torrefaction technology, developed by North Carolina State University has joined the Advisory Committee of Vega Biofuels.
The Company recently announced plans to expand its business model of manufacturing bio-coal to include manufacturing and marketing a product called biochar for various agricultural applications, including the medical marijuana and hemp industries. As a part of this expansion, the Company created the Advisory Committee to provide support and direction in the manufacturing of various torrefied products.
So then a few days later came this JV announcement which included Agri-Tech as the main JV Partner:
Vega Biofuels and Its Joint Venture Partners Building State of the Art Torrefaction Facility to Produce Bio-coal, Bio-Products and Biochar
Mar 06, 2014 (ACCESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- NORCROSS, GA / ACCESSWIRE / MARCH 6, 2014 / VEGA BIOFUELS, INC. (Pink Sheets VGPR) announced today it has entered into a Joint Venture Agreement to build and operate a pilot torrefaction facility in South Carolina that will manufacture the Company's bio-coal and biochar products.
Vega Biofuels (Vega) and its partners, including Agri-Tech Producers, LLC (ATP), are building the state of the art facility in Allendale, SC. The new Joint Venture entity will operate under the name ATP-SC, LLC and will produce various torrefied products. The Joint Venture partners plan to build additional plants around the world and the Allendale pilot plant will be a model for those plants.
Columbia, SC based ATP is in the business of manufacturing and selling cost-effective torrefaction equipment to be used to manufacture torrefied materials and solid fuel. ATP has licensed and commercialized the innovative torrefaction technology originally developed by North Carolina State University.
ATP selected the Kusters Zima Corporation (KZC) as its equipment design and manufacturing partner. KZC, a 40 year old Spartanburg, SC based company has now designed and will guarantee the performance of ATP's commercial torrefaction unit.
Joseph J. James, ATP's President, stated, "We look forward to working with Vega and its leadership to get an initial plant going, so we can pursue export and domestic markets for torrefied biomass". ATP will act as managing partner for ATP-SC and will be responsible for the day to day operations of the new entity.
Then yesterday came:
Mar 24, 2014 (ACCESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- NORCROSS, GA / ACCESSWIRE / MARCH 24, 2014 / VEGA BIOFUELS, INC. (Pink Sheets VGPR) announced today it has added a leading biochar expert to the Company's Advisory Board.
Biochar Now, LLC Co-Founder, James Gaspard has accepted a position on Vega's Advisory Board. Mr. Gaspard is an expert in the field of biochar. His industry accomplishments include co-founding one of the largest manufacturers of "high-quality" biochar in the industry today. Biochar Now, LLC has been producing biochar commercially for several years and is currently selling biochar to legal marijuana growers in Colorado and has completed required multi-year tests to successfully demonstrate the benefits and capabilities of biochar to large corporate end-users across many diverse industries and applications.
What should come next is the JV announcement with Biochar Now - who already has a facility and is up and running supplying biochar to pot and hemp growers in Colorado - imo
You said "non-functional" - it's very functional and has good useable information on it - imo
Not having their public news releases updated is a lapse but has nothing to do with non-functionality - imo
lol, website works fine for me - contact page works, phone matches OTCMarkets and is a hot link from OTC - tells me about what they do, all links work, etc -
Maybe your browser needs updating - imo
http://www.vegabiofuels.com/
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VGPR/company-info
That's because it hasn't been released yet lol - imo
but it sure is a comin very soon now - which you'd see if you know how to read what's on the page - imo
lol aw c'mon, seriously brotherman?
You use the term bagholder on a 500mill bought-up float MJ stock - holding a nice chart up-line in the 002's with .01+ breakout news and short-squeeze pending - with news actively being released monthly and a major new MJ partnership having just been announced? imo
Really, maybe this market thing just isn't for you - imo
$VGPR Yeah, JV makes perfect sense to go that way for both parties - great MJ match and good for the biochar industry as well - imo
And it will greatly enhance shareholder value here when announced - imo
$VGPR Going by their early March PR - which is all about a completed JV with another company -
And going by the 3/24/14 PR with the new CEO Partner saying:
Mr. Gaspard stated, "The biochar industry is transitioning from research and development into manufacturing and delivery of product. The legal marijuana growers in Colorado that we are selling biochar to are experiencing tremendous results. However, in order for this industry to grow and keep up with the tremendous demand for biochar worldwide, it is important for individuals with knowledge and expertise in the public markets to get involved. This is why I am excited to work with Mr. Molen and Vega's management team."
It greatly suggests that the next thing this ticker could hear about is an official JV with James Gaspard and Biochar Now - imo
It's a win/win for both sides and the fact that Biochar Now already has an operating plant in CO makes it that much better imo -
Knowing VGPR is no stranger to be setting up JV's currently and Biochar Now CEO James Gaspard mentioning the importance of "public markets", puts the probability of a JV with Biochar Now pretty high since the CEO has already agreed to come on board officially in advisory capacity - espesh when they could otherwise be considered competitors in the same marketplace - imo
NORCROSS, GA / ACCESSWIRE / MARCH 6, 2014 / VEGA BIOFUELS, INC. (Pink Sheets VGPR) announced today it has entered into a Joint Venture Agreement to build and operate a pilot torrefaction facility in South Carolina that will manufacture the Company’s bio-coal and biochar products.
Vega Biofuels (Vega) and its partners, including Agri-Tech Producers, LLC (ATP), are building the state of the art facility in Allendale, SC. The new Joint Venture entity will operate under the name ATP-SC, LLC and will produce various torrefied products. The Joint Venture partners plan to build additional plants around the world and the Allendale pilot plant will be a model for those plants.
Columbia, SC based ATP is in the business of manufacturing and selling cost-effective torrefaction equipment to be used to manufacture torrefied materials and solid fuel. ATP has licensed and commercialized the innovative torrefaction technology originally developed by North Carolina State University.
shares are very stingy because besides the float being so low, it's also accumulated considerably - imo
and there is some short games going on -
I've had the same problem - imo
$VGPR Plenty to like about this unfolding story besides the low float imo -
CEO heads out to CO last week and already snags as a strategic partner one of the CO biochar big guns with plant facility selling to MJ growers -
not wasting any time on the move - much more to come - imo
3/24/14 PR said:
I can't think of anyone that is a better fit for our Company. We will have additional announcements concerning our entry into the biochar industry in the coming days."
ancalagon - All I will say to you is this -
Nearly every penny stock that has a provable active hand in developing any part of their business model for the MJ industry - and Vega is now in the PROVABLE category as of today - (and even in some tickers that aren't even provable yet), has risen into the penny+ range on speculation of the future -
It's not a crime that this has happened either - it just means the bar has been elevated because the industry as a whole is so $billions lucrative as more and more legalization happens going forward -
Some people are still looking backward at the old standard w/o MJ as a viable market -
Meaning: the world has changed and you either change with it or the alternative - imo
This ticker here with such a small float (one of the smallest among all penny runners to-date) is just waiting for its days -
On the chart this easily went from .0005 - .007 in a few days on the first Feb speculation and the float has not changed since - sooner than later it will make its move up to join the rest of the MJ players - today's PR assures that and they said in the PR there is more news in coming days - and one has to believe in the months ahead -
just sayin - imo
lol - one thing I love seeing is a shorty running for their life! imo
I couldn't disagree more -
This PR today was NOT the AVERAGE election to a BOD - most of those are of people who aren't necessarily in the same business and are just window dressing - imo
This guy James Gaspard is not only a peer company of Vega, but they complement one another additively and is a targeted strategic partner for Vega - and the table is set for a further developing partnership to be forged -
Have you lost sight of the fact that the CEO specifically said he was going out to Colorado to network? Probably you don't really care lol - imo
Well, the first fruits of that effort showed up in this morning's PR -
This is much more than just adding some so and so to the BOD's - it's real substance related to quickly gaining entrance the MJ growers market for VegaB - imo
Guess what - establishing a new partnership with a CEO and company that is as you say "in-it", and where he says about you:
"This is why I am excited to work with Mr. Molen and Vega's management team."
then you are also recongnized as now "in-it" -
Lastly something else he says here is key to the possible future between the two companies:
"it is important for individuals with knowledge and expertise in the public markets to get involved."
Here he is clealy referring to Vega being a PUBLIC COMPANY - which he now has a chance at being a part of - espesh for the awareness of the industry itself -
today was much bigger news than people believe b/c they are so conditioned the other way - you have to read what's on the page - imo
Maybe a 559mill float and a CurrentPink ticker is not for you - no worries imo -
It works for me however - thx
I tend to agree - it already ran to .007 in Feb on first MJ news and the Co. were just getting going -
Now they already have a new strategic partner in today's PR that is already doing business with MJ and Hemp growers in at least Colorado -
An alert or two on this to get the word out, and should be in multi-pennies quick as most MJ penny runners from this level or lower have had floats of 1.5bill up to 3bill - imo
plus this one has a real reporting short so for such a low float an easy squeeze is to be had if enough buying pressure shows up for a few days - imo
lol, ok, I'll try to explain it to ya -
Any ticker related to growing or selling products related to consuming marijuana is considered "an MJ stock" -
Some of course are not legit - some like VGPR are legit and entering the space for company profit and shareholder value -
You may have missed the 2013 referendums legalizing marijuana in some places just went into effect on Jan 1, 2014. Medical MJ and hemp has been going on for a while now.
The hemp and MJ industry as a legal business model is just really beginning - if you sell products that growers can use, you offer it to them - easy.
Bottom line is however, entering a brand new multi-billion$ market means profits and shareholder value are anticiapted - hence the value of the equity rises - simple economics -
Biochar Now is already selling such products to growers in Colorado and maybe Washington State. Hence VGPR seeks them out as a strategic partner or maybe even a JV - why not they are both biochar -
Have you ever run a business? I have. There are two ways to grow a business. 'Organically' on your own, or by partnership/merger/acquisistion -
The latter is easier because inftrastructures, resources, and existing clients can be combined and cross-mined, then grown further -
Today's news of a new strategic alliance with someone already in MJ is that of a smart business move for Vega - the dumb way would be to try to do it all by yourself with no partnerships - takes way longer and less guarantee of success -
This PR today is actually misleading if you go by what the new Director said:
Mr. Gaspard stated, "The biochar industry is transitioning from research and development into manufacturing and delivery of product. The legal marijuana growers in Colorado that we are selling biochar to are experiencing tremendous results. However, in order for this industry to grow and keep up with the tremendous demand for biochar worldwide, it is important for individuals with knowledge and expertise in the public markets to get involved. This is why I am excited to work with Mr. Molen and Vega's management team."
Clearly here he is setting up that he is going to be "WORKING" with Vega, not just be their "ADVISOR". He is calling out Vega's expertise right here and he probably wants a piece of their coal action. They combine resources and cross profit - that's what I read - imo
Looking at Biochar Now website it looks like they and Vega are perfect to team up as strategic partners - imo
Then watching the video that was posted here of James Gaspard speaking at the forum, he is only looking for smart people, not fools. He even says so much in his speech admonishing some industry players for not being smart in their business approaches -
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=99355130
So that he would team up with Vega means something. He also said in that piece he's a former attorney so there is even more to like there - imo
Yes, SS just updated by the company on OTCMarkets on 3/20/14 (last Thursday)- imo
super low! and with a significant short squeeze in the mix also - imo