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B/O News with newly appointed BOD's
Good for You. LOL, Here's something to back up your theory.
..I also posted similar thoughts about the bulk of $250k on institutional clients help. That could be interpreted in many ways, so BYSD is unlikely to reveal the details on one huge sale, which is why the PR didn't mention sales differentials between how many physical bitcoinz vs V51s. If they did, we'd better understand the singular consumer side..
Still, your Hong Kong theory may be put to the test with the link below. If BYSD gets respectable EU figures, it may be due to Greece putting in a large order to cover the officials of that government. In other words a flipside of HK institutional clients.. I don't think it'll be stellar, but it could provide a big chunk if this heads as the link suggests.. IMO, of course.. GLTY..
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-04-21/euro-or-drachma-greece-must-finally-choose
Yeah..The 2nd Bust of Petro Deal certainly doesn't help credibility.
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I like how they PR'd it same day as the HK news in an obvious effort to soften the blow.. Look for another Petro PR soon.
Those old conventional vertical wells ran their course long ago, so no real profits came out as planed. The hype came in the form of many small companies like BYSD made to look like newer high tech service entities capable of squeezing more out of old abandoned wells, and bring back on line. Neat idea, as it brought in a lot of investors who wanted a cheap connection to oil is all.. Like most pinky schemes, it became the frenzy of a newly hatched sector that quickly fizzled. That's why a lot of us are still skeptical with current frenzy bitcoin theme, as it's still basically the same management team. Maybe it's different this time, but you know the saying "the more things change, the more they stay the same"...
Since Petro Hay Days, BYSD Boat been full of holes. Know when to bail too. If anything this stock, has proven that..
Ha-Ha-Ha, Great Thought. In that part of the world, you never know. Chi-Comms rip off every idea someone else comes up with. Possible they bought a bunch to dissect and find a way to hack, copy or reverse engineer to make their own V51s.
..If that happens BYSD will have to do a RS to help finance very expensive costs on patent infringement litigation suit. Ha, I'm assuming if they have a patented/trademarked V51. Only bad thing initially is that whole scenario would eat into our world record profits, you know? .. On the other hand, a patent law suit might yield better revenues. Maybe get us to .01 promise land quicker, resulting in daily-weekly litigation PR updates. Can you dig it?
I agree. That initially was the catalyst that jumped PPS in the first place. Hope I'm wrong, but this HK news may have already moved today. Maybe a few ticks tomorrow before another shake.. The PR doesn't mention sales differentials between how many physical bitcoinz vs V51s, so were talking sales of approx 961 ($260) V51s on their own. Lot less with physical coins to split the dif. Sales off Institutionals? Sounds like multiple exchanges put in orders to examine along with employees and execs. If so,, those numbers sound about right..
Interesting how they never released EU initials earlier as they launched before HK. Maybe those numbers will have to be compiled (grouped countries) to get even close to $250k as the single highest stand alone figure yet. All in IMHO, of course..
Oh-No, More News? ..Guess I will say a prayer.. But hey it's BYSD,Man?
..Looks like this news is the start of another multi PR campaign blitz on the EU activity. A build up towards the other stuff and FINRA approval.. Great plays on both sides.. GO BYSD.. ..lol..
Rand Paul Speaks: Makes No-Mention of BYSD or receiving open letter from Johnson.. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/11547436/Rand-Paul-receives-standing-ovation-as-he-delivers-libertarian-message-to-New-Hampshire-faithful.html
O-Brother, That's A-Good-One. A letter to Rand Paul from Johnson.. I like that, LOLdzzzz.. Like Greece OL to FM Veroufakis. That went over real well remember? PPS went to .01 so fast, no one noticed. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha .. Still I commend your bravery for suggesting considering the other stupid PR's failed so miserably.. All they did was make pps drop.. GO BYSD... and Rand.. LOL..
Rand Paul will FIX That.. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha..
..Dopes...
Hard Hitting Stuff, lol, like the part..
...about visiting operation's, meeting staff etc. Is that something you'd really want to do? ..knowing BYSD's performance thus far?.. I think were expecting to much from this bunch.
Hire a CEO like Alan Mulally and this goes to $10 PPS overnight.. Send a certified letter to him, take a pic, post a flashy PR and maybe .005.. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha..
..Seriously though, at least BILL FORD Jr. -realized he was stupid, compared to Mulally and put him in charge of all FORD operations. Lured him away from Boeing (( after turning around that company )) that's how bad he wanted him. In 2006 BILL FORD risked the entire family name and fortune on Mulally's call for an unheard of $20 Billion loan, and it worked!! Talk about gambling!!
If Bitcoin is the future, and BYSD wants to be really great, they need a proven American CEO like Allan..
http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-mulally-leadership-style-2013-11
Naturally this will never happen but I've seen some lesser names have a profound effect on pinkies before. Even at lowly levels, if their names consist of those Wall St's familiar with, the stock jumps dramatically and the longer range plans assured..
R I G H T...
On being WRONG.. Great points, all true..
Global Rank, How embarrassing.. 2 pages/per visit/per potential visitor who can't be verified as paying V51 customer.. If BYSD put a counter on its website it'd be mostly pumper visits artificially clicking on website to raise from flat line status.
Also, Funniest thing about the Alexa stats? Notice how page views don't correlated to countries. In other words you won't EVER see the countries where web traffic comes from.. Type in Coinbase or high profile co. to see what I mean. Anyway, BYSD would have to subscribe to Alexa.com to make that info available, and that ain't gonna happen anytime soon, just like BYSD's live L2 data feed on their crappy website remember? Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha.. Also, notice there's no historical data chart on Alexa available BC BYSD sucks. But, we do have last Q1 revs that equals approximately 539 to 707 total Vault51s sold, based on price declines. Now, if country info were available that means we'd be able to measure number of countries shown, to get an idea of the effectiveness on how V51s traffic and possibly sold..
Remember: It's estimated by Juniper Consulting that presently active bitcoin wallets = only 1.3 million worldwide, 2 million tops.. This is where the meat of revenues will come from.. See Here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-users-approach-5-million-mark-2019-juniper-research-reports/
Therefore, The only really big revenues that mattered were from the $5milly fake sale to Technis Energy. Now same stupid offer with iseeauto? Gimmie a fricken break. Give it til June for another offer to roll in. Maybe this time McDonald's wants to get in the oil business.. Makes sense since clowns are running that one as well..
Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha... Have a nice day... Gone Golfing..
Not Bashing this time, just truth in most cases towards tier moves.. Been there several times before, and one just last year. Pharmaceutical LaJolla which went from subs to dollars. Just hit a recent $25 high. Of course their mgmt team light years ahead of BYSD. So, Believe what you will.. Dynamics change. You guys consistently hang your hat on past runs with help from empty pap. That's the thing that becomes old, and eventually never repeats the same way. BYSD is a work in progress. In order to look attractive to institutional investors or big risk takers, they need to seriously increase PPS, and this is the most likely used path to do it while BYSD business model takes hold.. Also makes more attractive in Merger B/O scenarios, which is why they're probably looking at doing this, or likely eyeing that possibility. Although not always the case, a retirement in shares could be a first step in a RS process towards that goal..
Tier Change: Fancy Term for RS...
..Happens frequently in Pinks and costs BIG $$$ to do it. You don't think they'll pay for it with their own money do you?? That's why many bail on retirement news like this. They'll let others finance the costs before buying back in.. Try to prop it up to lure new dummy's, spring some additional pap PRs afterwards, and then WAM!!
..Probably why it's not news on Ihub. Try to keep the exodus to a minimum for now..
That PIC: He must-be Gagged too.. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha...
Welcome to BYSD Comedy Central.. There's an idea. New BYSD Comedy Channel.. Ah-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha...
LOL, Stop It, Get that Sticky'd.. That image is gonna interfer with my golf game later today.
Great point. Price remains high til orders drop off. Don't want to prematurely cut into ***world record profits*** anymore than we need to..
I think you see isee, the way isee-isee.. LOL.. Sorry man, this gets better and better if you know what I mean..
THANKS TRADER BRO. Marked you back..
Ha! Great News I See..LOL..
I commented the other day this might happen, on the FINRA delay. That "additional cash" claus, contingency in the original Technis PR probably sank the deal. Either way it doesn't matter. What matters is how fast BYSD spun this off by using same deal dynamics with another company not relative to oil business. Maybe iseeAuto, was a previous player before Technis and jumped back in?..
.. I say The whole thing stinks, but hey, that's BYSD.
IMO, they should of auctioned these wells off professionally to serious oil company bidders with a proven track record, like Harold Hamm's, Continental Resources, Anadarko subsidiary's, Stratex, or similar. Instead they want to frick around with a robot mfg? ..Man! ..that's all I got to say on that one. If BYSD is so rigid in the same framework divy share deal, then get some experienced oil co. that can rework the wells to get us revenues. Meantime BTC, dipping nicely lower, .0005 not to far off..
http://www.thedeal.com/content/restructuring/stratex-takes-bid-straight-to-magellan.php
http://www.croatiaweek.com/7-bids-in-continental-croatia-oil-drilling-tender/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/continental-resources-adds-oil-acreage-north-dakota-auction-214927571--finance.html
With this great news, Looks like BYSD going to be one of those rare companies to drop on a GC.. lol......
Everyone's been predicting that including..
..myself. But the bitcoin trading dynamics are changing faster than anyone previously thought. Like recently it flirted the $300 mark few weeks ago, but couldn't bust through, before stabilizing back to current low 200s. Even if it does run, it may not repeat anything close to previous $1,000 + records.
As you know the bitcoin trading fundamentals are different this time than last few years. Before it was just a handful of exchanges dominating price movement. Now we got more worldwide government regulations, newer crypto currencies weaving their way in and institutional investment entities getting into the act. They're all bent on price stabilization which makes it less likely to see the run away price volatility like before. IMHO, This means BYSD is not going to be able to lean on bitcoin price factor the same way like it did early on. There gonna have to earn it on the revenues front, and that's going to take a long time to get PPS into a lengthy sustaining penny footprint.
Absolutely, just like..
..last week, maybe lower.. LOL...
With BTC closing in on ever lower 200s, you better prey on that FINRA confirmation flyin-in, or other
magical - monumental PR just to stay at .001. BYSD lucky to get a few ticks on G/C w/out that news.. Maybe they'll add a ***35th*** country, like Fiji, or Congo. That'll yield some ***record profits*** for sure! Otherwise, looks like a visit to trips again tomorrow. Got my orders ready for .0005s.. (((pant-pant)))...
http://www.coindesk.com/price/
Ha! That's a good one.. Wasn't ready to go that far, thinking more like a clerical error and had to re-submit it through the FINRA approval bureaucracy one more time. But your right, EOD may give a clue..
Great Point..
..which is why I don't pay much attention to it, deciphering between daily swaps and naked positions.. **No Excuses** There'll be shorts every day, some larger than other's..
Bottom Line: ..If a company's marketing fundamentals are performing then it'll show with good volume and periodic PPS increases, despite shorts. As far as BYSD goes the average daily shorts were in the single Milly range until yesterdays 48m. JMO, but all this says is maybe someone knows FINRA news still in process mode, wanted this to go lower before PR release..
No problem: Thanks
..Marked you back, #37
FINRA DELAY: Possible Snag? We only know the surface details in the PR. It said, that along with stock, an undisclosed amount of cash was involved. Wondering if that might be the hang-up. Perhaps the amount changed or still being negotiated? Just because they said they sold it, hasn't closed the deal out.. I'm hopeful this isn't the case but stranger things have happened when it comes to pinky deals..
Enlightenment on ***World Record Profits***
(((( a synopsis ))))
So, today turned out to be another lack-luster event, despite BYSD's Q1 revenues and small profit.
Today's trading is indicative of stagnation: Justifiably so, considering all the PRs, it just wasn't enough to fit into what ever game plan they are working on. Annnndd, the market has more or less certified this notion by stubbornly low PPS.. As for dilution: Perhaps BYSD hoped the sequential expansion PRs would've generated a higher pps to sell more shares slowly and at a higher rate to be unsuspecting. As of now, the $5 Milly Technis sale has been the only real asset revenue eye-opener that got it all going. Now, (short of a B/O) they must rely on future sales off V51.. With a target $4 Milly annual projected revenues, they got a long way to go. It's not like it was initially reporting Facebook updates of a $100k here and there..
..Therefore not expecting the Q2 revs to be a whole lot better than Q1 which is why they mentioned the licensing option.. They know they need help. Never mind the ***34 Countries***. Nice novelty pap but its already old. The Juniper Reports I posted earlier may turn out to be the "Holy Grail" in realistically predicting what's actually out there in available short term worldwide market pool revenues..
Juniper Quote:
“When you look at the actual number of wallets and people who regularly make transactions, rather than just store half a bitcoin, you’re talking about a couple million max,” he added.
He also sought to debunk the idea that merchant adoption would lead to an increase in consumer use, adding: “It doesn’t necessarily follow that the more retailers that deploy it, the more people will use it.”
The above is a VERY ACCURATE AND OBSERVANT ASSUMPTION.
Same goes for website visits. Popularity Page visits does not automatically guarantee a sale. To think it does is simply foolish.
Short term projections: IT IS THOSE WITH CURRENT WALLETS WHERE VAULT 51 revs will come from. This means BYSD needs to sell approximately 15.3k v51s every year to meet the annual projections. IMHO, This will be tougher nut to crack than originally thought.. BYSD desperately needs the other traditional payments processing arm to compliment their core product Vault51.. Yeah, we all want this to do well, but we also must get a better hand on understanding the market and the market model BYSD is using or will be using.. Initially I too, got sucked up with the emotional frenzy when this changed into a bitcoin entity. But now it's worn off.. Better to be objective and ask tough questions than pump endless wish-be pap, based solely off their gassed PRs.. That scenario has already played itself out.. Next up: FINRA Div update. Maybe a few ticks up on that one.. All IMHO..
http://www.coindesk.com/juniper-research-bitcoin-transactions-double-2017/
Estimated 1.3 million worldwide users now, 5 million by 2019..
https://coinreport.net/report-estimates-nearly-5m-bitcoin-users-2019/
Outside Source...
...my guess you won't find any. The only other outside source to date we know of, which would have any credibility of acknowledgement was the "Open Letter" to Greek FM Yanis Varoufakis. I doubt we'll here back from him anytime soon, unless he wants their treasury flooded with bitcoinz.. Of course if we heard from Yanis, for even a sample V51, you know it'd be priceless PR MSM news, that would last for many days.
BTW, contrary to what you may have seen posted on BYSD not revealing marketing secrets. ..To funny.. Any company marketing with consultants ((( like biggies, KPMG, Pricewatershouse Cooper, IBM -GBS, Earnst & Young and even smaller ones ))) will have given away what that company's strategic marketing ambitions are. The only secret, now exposed is that BYSD has been marketing on their own which is why I said earlier, at least they acknowledged it with some form of assistance in licensing with some other entity, or entities. Whether it's in the form of consulting company or another bitcoin exchange or group of exchanges will be revealed soon I hope..
..IMO, a PR on licensing would do a lot more to PPS increase than all the other global expansions PR's combined. That of course depending on who it is.. Hopefully they get it right..
Great observation. By last count about
539-707 in Q1. Depending of course by price reductions. It was all laid out in one of my recent posts. I'm glad you can see through all the fluff. To just sit back and be a yes-man for the company is BS..
Re: Advertising..
This is a great question. So you are not alone in your frustration.
As far as I've seen, BYSD has nothing going on with traditional corporate MLM inquiries or direct market advertising techniques. Furthermore, they have never posted in any depth, of what the overall sales strategy was, is, or going to be.
..However in their last PR, they did mention licensing with entities to help out, by admitting they had a lot of work to do in this area. This IS, and would be a first along these lines.. Details of what that actually means is still pending.. Therefore for now at least, Facebook, Ihub, and their own bitcoinzusa.com site is doing the bulk off keywords for the marketing sales arm. Heck, it help produce our highly taughted 2015 Q1 "world record profits" (in case you missed it) since Vault launched last year.
..I have criticized the marketing aspect enough and added what I thought would best help in better exposure with keywords. BYSD competitors like Coinbase have such a huge advantage because besides bitcoin, they mainly service traditional payment processing utilizing the new NFC smartphone apps.
..A lot of people who'd maybe consider opening bitcoin wallets are simply not going to know about BYSD because of it's limitations in payment processing keywords. Investors here on this board can search for specific words like "cold storage, bitcoinZ, vault 51, BYSD, Bayside corp etc, because they are terms they already know. But to the average joe looking to make a visa payment, no way will any of these specific words pop up on his screen unless BYSD has traditional MLM methods..
Anyway its good to see the board discussing the marketing aspect..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=112393508
There's always politics with companies. That's just..
..how it is. It's our duty as investors to let the company know our likes and dislikes on BOD decisions however it may offend.
This is why many corporations despise Carl Icahn, but when he speaks, people listen.. Especially directing officers.
..BTW, I find it interesting on Rand Paul's bitcoin acceptance. Visionary to say the least but he does think out of the box, and we need more of that type of thinking..
..I would expect 2016 candidate Carly Fiorina formally HP CEO, to come up with similar campaign finance acceptance. After all HP is high tech co. Have Johnson send a letter to her and Rand, heck all of them, as it is priceless PR opportunity, and should be capitalized on. Not to, would be negligent and stupid on behalf of BYSD board. Johnson started it with Greece. Now it's time to ramp it up severe notches..
VM: that include refs to..
..Rand Paul bitcoin acceptance?
I noticed those are down as well.
Realize the politics are a sticky issue, but they do relate to BYSD's marketing which are relative topics.
Some guidelines on these would be helpful and Sticky at top..
..I don't see why we can't comment in a civilized on topic approach..
It's still a free country or at least it used to be..
JMO, but contrary to others, I don't see BTC price effects to have as great an effect on BYSD as it did in the past. Many do, but there's a new set of dynamic's at work on BTC price stability compared to early last year.
A few of these are:
1) more countries continuing to inject their own crypto currencies into global system.
2)trading intensity on bitcoin for forex.
3) establishment of startup Bitcoin ETF's instruments run by well known hedge fund mgrs.
4) more government regulations in play and increasing.
I don't know if I missed any others, but it seems these 4 are beginning to have an effect on price stability to manage volatility.
..This is why I believe that it all comes back to revenues being the driving force in terms of PPS value for BYSD. As you say, after 14 PRs and current .0011s both mm's and the market seem to agree.. regardless of our new "world record profits".. BTW, did you know that:
=== were in 34 countries?=== ..LOL...
..that's reason enough to start slapping that ask brother, heck- no one else is...
Will Do:
..be watching that is. Others predicting .01 or more, based on chart dynamics and news. Lately I've become more skeptical as mm's and market have reacted with a flat response to those previous PRs. So, what do you see for the chart breakout before the drop. Or are you saying it won't run but just drop on the Golden Cross..
RIGHT-ON-trades: Here's what'll make it RUN..
Coinbase web stats:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinbase.com
The abovementioned usa/global ranking is reason enough to acquire BYSD. It'd take years for BYSD under current marketing model to get numbers like these..
Meantime BYSDs rank barely registers..
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoinzusa.com
If you want to know why, take a look at the missing technicals here.. Errors, missing back links, keywords, and headers mis-placement.. etc. Basically it sucks..
So yes, all the PRs didn't have the impact you'd expect. Take a looks'y..
https://www.woorank.com/en/www/bitcoinzusa.com
Or try https://www.woorank.com and plug bitcoinzusa.com for update..
Im conservatively reserved in expectations based on those PRs. If the enthusiasm that followed the PRs is any indication, we'd be lucky with chart play and FINRA updates to reach .005 unless there is something stellar of unknown value added into the news..
That's because they're Efficient: >>
.. sold between 559 to 707 (take your pick, or average if you like) Vault 51s (based on 3, different price declines, $329,290,260) for aalll of Q1. Probably threw in some Q4 sales to help out.
.. So, you see, it shouldn't take any more than 5 minutes to count up to just over a 100 sales, log and file it for April 1st, -presuming they have 6 employees to split the counting..
..Just so you know, we are a global company now
in 33 or 34 (I forget) countries with Global web ranking, LOL,,
..Never mind transparency where those sales came from by country as BYSD wouldn't want to tell us thooose statistics.. Ok, if you must know, it's about 17 to 21 v51s per country, (33.5 countries /by 559 and 707). Certainly not a method to base in at. But from a marketing stand point, it'd be nice to see just exactly where they came from.
..I'm all for BYSD's s success. They've admittedly said, a lot of work still needs to be done, and V51 is a work in progress.
..Biggest event so far that's affected PPS was Feb 23 Technis sale, not vault revs, not web ranking, or pump PR's on potential vault revs of global expansion.. JMO, and teasing,, based on our stellar results...
You hit on it. Key word "Marketing". Or lack there of it.
I agree. It just irks me how antiquated and un-inspring its been, starting with the websites functionality in regards to results. Oh sure they turned a small profit, big deal.. But I believe revs would have been even better had the website been properly designed and coupled with a direct MLM scheme. I've posted last few weeks about this extensively. I tell it as I see it. Run some operations of my own in lifes experience, so I know the difference's of what's probable as opposed to what's possible.. Enough cheer leaders posting endless old news we all know about.. I'm more of the activist trying to motivate ideas to the BOD's if it exists.. Lots of people may get redirected to click on the website to generate traffic numbers, but if the site doesn't have the correct marketing content to educate, and hold likely prospects long enough to ultimately buy, then it will fail because the revenues will never have the intended impact we all expect.. It's a lot like the car business. If the customer walks off the showroom floor- a 95% chance he ain't coming back.. The product alone is not always going to just sell itself, it has to be backed up by the salesmans knowledge and persuasive personality. It is this reason the website must exceed this fact by being even better. For that to happen takes visionary web design and development. I'm glad they sold the oil wells to Technis. It may end up out performing BYSD corp bitcoinz V51..
BYSD never had the re-investment capitol or expertise to rejuvenate those old wells. That's why they never had revenues, only the perception there would be.. Technis might have a better chance, but no one knows what condition the wells are in or weather they can be reworked using the latest drilling tech.. Also don't forget the regulatory hurdles to over come.. Just a guess, but they (Technis) must have seen something in them to try and bring back online.. Energy in that region is a big deal to those oil service companies with fracking abilities.. Look at the breakout boards.. A lot of small wildcatters still in the oil hunt even though oil price has collapsed,, -- Positioning for a future price rise.. If the divy comes in the form of new BYSD petro division shares under Technis, you never know.. Over a period of years, it might be worth more than BYSD pps V51 bitcoin venture.. LOL,, I just had to say that..