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Debt.
Pull the filing and read it.
This is what everyone needs to realize. While I would like to see some movement in PPS, it is obvious that EVFL is trying to get everything together to get cleaned up for something. The question is for what.
This is not an overnight get rich quick stock.
There is none, just people with to much time on their hands. If people spent as much time performing research and trying to truly understand financials, asking questions of what they do not understand instead of accusing, name calling, and unfounded accusations.
That post was before he went to meet with DM. Look at the date. People cannot even research a date correctly on a OLD post. No wonder there are so many confused investors here. If you cannot figure out a post on IHub how can we expect you to correctly figure out financials?
OK let's make this simple. The last financials show 21+ billion as O/S, with a gagged T/A. Therefore if we as shareholders cannot get the current O/S from the T/A what makes you think a MM can? Until new financials come out or a PR from EVFL stating what the O/S is, IMHO it would be a safe bet that it is 21+ billion. Everyone is over complicating this thing WAY to much. I can tell you that 769+/- million is not correct as I know enough shareholders that own more than this amount combined to know that this is not correct, but hey what do I know I am not a broker just a LEO/army reservists/part time farmer. Continue with your delusion as you see fit.
Start helping to clear the junk out. At the bottom is a link to Report TOU violations. It only takes a sec, and will maybe clear out some of the junk and riff-raff.
Follow the below link and look for Oracle's post. Along your same thinking. There are 2 posts on that page.
http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.703006/browse_thread/thread/4b264fb42b82c7a1/03ac68868d027015
The fact is none of us knows what has happened since 06/30/09.
Correct runncoach. + People on this board own more than 800 mil combined. If I remember correctly the running list on this board was close to 2bil at one time. I know 5 people that have 100 mil each. So sorry your broker is wrong IB12U. Wishful thinking though.
Link please???
Good maybe we can get something going here.
Just so nobody get's confused that is EVLN not EVFL.
Looks like none to me.
Maybe because someone is buying?
Put it up for sale it will sell first thing in the morning. 260mil traded @ 9:32 this morning.
Who says they are selling anything.
I am sure that there is someone buying if you want out.
As is yours.
Not trying to be original, or good or better, just telling the facts of it.
As I told cynic, Everyone that is scared or concerned should sell out in the next week for whatever they can get out of it before the impending doom that may follow the week after. Put your sell orders in for Monday and get out while you can. Let some other sucker buy them up and just laugh that you got out before it all went bust.
Have you done good DD, if not then you have reason to be concerned. Through my DD I am not. Do not expect to be led to the water and asked to drink, you must find the water yourself, then it is up to you if you drink.
You are right cynic. Everyone that is scared or concerned should sell out in the next week for whatever they can get out of it before the impending doom that may follow the week after. Put your sell orders in for Monday and get out while you can. Let some other sucker buy them up and just laugh that you got out before it all went bust.
One valid reason, maybe right now it is none of our business for reasons on his business.
would be thrilled to have some real information on the plans and actions to be taken in the next 30 - 60 days. If this is legit, there should be no reason not to keep us informed
Above is from your post. Yes there is a reason not to keep us informed as to what will take place in the next 30-60 days. It is called competitive advantage, you do not want those competing against you to know your plan.
Maybe the agent is gagged for a reason? Maybe there is a future possibility of something going on, and it's not dilution, that he doesn't want people to know about until the proper time?
This Country runs on secrets, business does also.
Read the board and do some good DD, make up your own mind, do not just go on what others say.
I can only but want to loosen the gnomes that I hold at that price, for I must wait until .06 to release half of what I hold, keeping the rest in reserve for that which may come.
Partly dilution, and partly MM's IMHO. We know that there has been dilution, and we know that the MM's were basically in control when it was bouncing up and down. Now the MM's seem to think or know that something may coming and they are getting out of it before the price spikes above .0002 and they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar. This would be why the volume has dropped off and has quit the .0001-.0002 shuffle. I think that they may still be playing with it somewhat just not as much and not making as much. This is all JMHO as I am just an ignorant Garden Gnome.
The treasure that I seek is a jug, a jug that was filled with shine. It was banished to the hinterlands and has resurfaced in a new vessel, a vessel in the form of a gnome. Until the banishment has been completed in this vessel with it reside.
If this is a scam as some posting here think, it is a pretty elaborate scam. Why would they go through the trouble of financials, PR's, getting current for the stock listing, etc.. All of that costs money, money that could be in their pockets. Why would Dennis hold such a personal stake in this company, why wold he have personally guaranteed mortgages that the company has taken out for property they have acquired? They would not have to of done any of this to scam people. Some of the other pinks that I have looked at would fit the definition of possible scam, but not EVFL.
Why do you try? You are wasting your time just like dusty.
It is our business what we choose to invest in. If we loose our arse then so be it, it will be no skin off of your's or his. So let us make our own choices, be they good or bad.
Yes it would be nice to get such a PR. If dusty could sell his out fully would we then be relieved of his rantings? R/S, O/S over and over again. I hope so.
Come on EVFL!
A question for someone smarter than I.
EVFL got a default judgement of just over 1mil. Could they sell that to one of these debt/judgement collection firms for 0.50-0.75 cents on the dollar, not have to worry about collecting on the judgement themselves and use that money for a buyback? Just a thought.
Wise counsel is that which I seek, but I fear that a cypher I am lacking to understand that which is being revealed within the posts of this board. I have bartered for a few shares of this company, and wish to understand the evolution that is taking place. Any guidance on my quest I thank you for in advance.
Yes and I'm still buying.
Go EVFL
I bought just under 4mil today and yesterday on Scottrade, I guess they lifted their restrictions on EVFL.