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In general, for neutraceutical use, distillation and extraction may reduce the value of trace materials present. Also, unless done under an inert (oxygen-free) atmosphere, oxidation of the double bonds is a possibility. The omega-3 oils from algae are competitive with those derived from flax and cold water fish. As I understand it, both are cold pressed and oils produced are separated from any water and possibly pasteurized--otherwise little further purification is required.
BEHL indicated that their initial order was for the oil. Some early videos were showing them using a screw press to extract the oils from the mostly dried algae. I doubt that a screw press would work as well as some other approach for larger quantities, but I don't know what they are planning.
My family holds about 2 million.
Is Dale still IR for BEHL. As I recall, he had a 1 year contract with them. If not, then is it now done in house?
Interesting read. Unfortunately, this was written nearly 10 years ago and little to nothing has seemed happen to fix the problems. I also believe that there are many sham companies that work with the MMs to bilk retail investors of their money. The only option it seems to me for legitimate companies, BEHL for example, is for retail stockholders to accumulate as many shares as possible. Makes it harder for MMs to manipulate to keep the price down.
Moral of the story: do your own thorough DD, buy up the float, keep doing good DD, don't sell before your target price is reached, and don't hold your breath waiting for the SEC to act.
Perhaps I am a bit slow, but your link did not seem to have any connections to calculating the oil yield from algae. You are putting out very low numbers on the possible oil yield and I want to know where you get the numbers used for your starting point.
Again would be helpful to see some links to where you pick up the information on which you base your calculations. Your results are VERY different from data I've seen and calculations I've done. If you have new and/or more credible information, please post it here.
I don't base my investment decisions on information that I see posted here. I do my own DD.
Count me in there as well. I have been able to double my BEHL holdings since October. Wish I had more funds available, but won't for about six weeks.
Sorry, but even the contents of the coffee can is now subject by the hidden tax of inflation.
To ignore, click on the poster name and look for the "ignore this poster" link. Click and you are done!
I agree. WAAAY too much time is spent arguing against repetitive posts. I have baloney on ignore as well as several others. Makes this group seem so much nicer.
Thanks you fingers for that informative and articulate post. I appreciate your carefully thought-out and well-stated opinions about BEHL. BTW, I remember the old playground saying about name-calling: "it takes one to know one." It seems you have proven the truth to that statement.
Thanks.
While there are significant exceptions, we seem to have mostly people on this site who can only see one side or the other. Like most of life, BEHL is neither a scam nor a sure thing. If their investing plans assume one or the other, the most likely outcome is to take a loss.
GLTA!
Is DF a liar? I guess it is a matter of perception. You point to specific items that have not had timely follow-up. Is the lack of follow-up a problem? Yes, perhaps ...
You and holycroc (conveniently?) avoided specific things that were problems and have been resolved. Removing the CE from the ticker is a big thing. Was dealing with Pinksheets high on DF's list when some of the things you mentioned were shared with stockholders? I don't think so. Initially, he seemed to rebel against playing their games.
Then there is the matter of company offices. The Santa Ana office is their third location in less than 12 months. It is also the fourth attempt to arrange for long term office space in 2009. 1) move to SJC, 2) attempt to buy in SJC, 3) attempt to build in HB, and 4)the lease in SA. How much time did that take from the basics of building a company? I'm sure that DF thought on Jan. 1, 2009, "I hope I can spend 1/4 (or more) of my time making arrangements for a move this year."
They also now have several months of experience with their 1800 sqft PBR. It provides some good data which will make their experience with the larger PBR at Santa Ana even better. How much is that worth?
Somehow, to me I don't see any lying or deception. I see someone who is so caught up in the excitement of his business that he sometimes says things prematurely--anticipating that the audience will be as enthusiastic as he. I see someone who has learned a few painful lessons. So much of his early communications were of the "WOW, look what we can do!" types of talk.
Do you KNOW that the lipid trigger does not exist? If so, I would like to see your evidence. How much of the other events that I mentioned above affected the "promised" schedule?
Is BEHL a sure thing? Not yet. It is a speculative development company. I have several million shares. Will I make a killing? I hope so, but it is still possible BEHL will fail. The odds of a successful business start-up favor BEHL's failure. That is what makes investing in pennyland more exciting. We all hope to invest in the exception.
DF is smart. I believe he will take these lessons and move ahead. I believe he will make BEHL a success. I'm betting on this with a few more purchases on Monday.
Good stuff rafa and thanks to you too sl.
I add my signature to this petition.
I doubt the information provided by your broker. Six weeks or so ago, they did 1 1000:1 RS. That left 2.5 million shares in the float. I think they have spent an additional 10 million or so shares in acquisitions. I can't imagine they have increased the float by 3 billion shares in six weeks.
WOW! Good job selling at 17 cents. Especially when the high price was 15.5 cents. That makes your other comments especially believable.
Two possible forms of scamming here--BEHL is a scam. Not likely as DF has shown over and over he is working hard to be a success. Second scam possible--clowns who try to talk weak hands into selling. Make your own choice with your own DD. Don't let anyone else do DD for you--you don't know their motives.
The Fischer–Tropsch process is a catalyzed chemical reaction in which synthesis gas (a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen) is converted into liquid hydrocarbons. The most common catalysts are based on compounds of cobalt or iron. This process is to produce a synthetic petroleum substitute for use as lubrication oil or fuel. It was patented during the 1920s and used by Germany and Japan during the WWII to supplement their fuel needs.
I really doubt that BEHL is using this process. They might ultimately produce the biomass that could be gasified. Better to use lower value carbon source for the synthesis gas. Algae, after lipid removal is a very high in protein--potentially high value for animal feed. I suspect that Magnegas is using some form of the Fischer-Topsch synthesis for its products.
Agree with ENTK being illiquid. I sold the last of my shares last week--took 2 days to move 1000 shares and they sold in 50-100 share increments. Fortunately, in time to buy BEHL at .0085.
I've been in three stocks with a RS. All three took a while adjust. Only one did well; another did not and still waiting to see how ENTK recovers. BEHL does NOT need to go through that type of development pains.
Not even sure whether BEHL even needs to move from the pinks. While the bashers tell us that all pinks are bad, there are some major companies that are unwilling to spend the money it takes to be on a bigger board. One of the biggest is food giant Nestle's.
Reading the PR, says status change "by Monday". It is done and not yet Monday.
That has got to be the funniest, most entertaining post here in a long time. Thanks for taking so much of your valuable time to entertain us. BTW, please learn to spell!
Seen this repeatedly with other companies. Investors get impatient for price of stock to go up. They decide that the CEO (or other management) is incompetent. I was in another stock at $0.38. Investor sentiment was VERY negative about the CEO--some even suggesting physical harm was appropriate. I sold 6 months later at $19.55 to pay off my mortgage and to buy BEHL. When I sold, investors thought the CEO could do no wrong. They are still happy with the CEO at a price of $22.10 today.
If only investors really understood what it takes to get a business from idea to profitable, we would have fewer negatives.
DF seems to be working hard to get BEHL to profitability.
The more of these types of people we see here, the better the future looks for BEHL. They put too much effort in sowing dispair. Something is in the works and someone knows it! The pattern works over and over in these penny stocks. What worries me is that sometimes they are so successful that they can destroy a company.
I understand this is your opinion--and you are welcome to whatever opinion you wish.
If you wish for me to believe or agree with you, I need to see some hard facts to back up your opinion.
Don't bother with the typical "It's true because I said so" reply. show the facts on which you base your opinion.
Thanks for the DD BG. Wonderful info!!
I trust that you have iron-clad proof of your suggestion that DF was cheating shareholders. If so, share it; otherwise your commnts are considered personal opinion.
Let them rant--and we seem to be getting an increase in the negative clan here. They are running out of rope.
Started buying in April, and have continued buying. Now hold 3x my initial purchase. Fortunately still in the green, but I'm very patient. Posters like baloney, poo, sky, etc. all tell me something big is up. I want to be here when it happens.
Sigh!! I'll shed a tear or two. I feel so sorry for people who invest money they can't afford to lose in an investment where they don't do their own DD.
Highly unlikely that ENTK or most any other business will survive the hyperinflation that the fed is sending our way. The article didn't specifically say this, but hyperinflation is the only way that the fed and the government can afford to pay their debts.
The biggest leap most people make is the one made in making assumptions. You don't KNOW (unless you have insider information) when, or if, they were sold. Are they in the float (your assumption) or just moved from AS to OS. Are they security for loans from DF, restricted as part of a hiring package for new employees, sold for cash and now a part of the float, or something we haven't thought about?. Until that info is PRed, we don't know what happened. You are welcome to your opinions, but in the absence of real data anything any of us say is just an opinion.
While it is easy to see an increase in the OS, the AS is unchanged. Perhaps I am too simple minded, but I don't really see this as a dilution. Dilution in my mind is really raising the AS and selling from there. They needed some capital, so they sold a few shares. Big deal. On thing is missing here though is the numbers on the float. Where did those shares end up?
On several occasions, DF implied that HE was financing BEHL's development. Was this a loan or did DF buy stock? Were these shares sold to him becoming a part of his portfolio or were they sold on the open market?
If BEHL raised funds by selling DF those shares, then the transaction has had no impact on the market because they are not yet traded as a part of the float--unless he sold his shares. I think DF is brighter than to buy shares and then turn around and sell them right away at a loss. That is something that many investors (traders?) are more likely to do.
Before I consider any of the bashes as valid, I need to know the tradable float. If increased from 320 to 400 million, then the decline in share price might be partially due to an increase in the float. I don't think the MMs are off the hook for price manipulation.
Someone call the transfer agent and give an honest report of what they say.
This PSC posting weas not written by PSC themselves, but first appeared here on the ihub board for BEHL. Not sure that they got permission or paid the original author for using his words as their pump.
BMG I think that your info is correct--though I wish I knew more about the details. It is well known to algae researchers that stressing algae can cause them to switch into a different mode to survive. For example, not providing CO2 and sulfur from some species of algae causes them to produce more of the enzyme hydrogenase which then produces hydrogen. Other stressors cause them to vary the amount of lipid production (up or down). We don't know very much about how to control algae growth for various useful products, but I think they will be used in the future for much MUCH more than biofuels, neutraceuticals, or biomass.
I don't know if I was in the list of 22 (I doubt it). Made my first purchase in April--and have continued purchasing 2-3 times per month since then. Now hold nearly 10X my original number of shares, still at an average below .01. Not selling at least until April, 2010 (tax reasons).
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8 looks about right for me. Neither bashers NOR pumpers have any real data to make their case. It is a bit early in the history of BEHL to really know if it will be successful. Good sector (10/10), good ideas (9/10), uncertain if BEHL has what it takes to be the top of the heap (7/10). I'm willing to be patient for the long haul (though a large bump up would be very nice.)
Check out the following link. Looks like buys:sells is about 2:3.
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&cb=1258398463&symbol=BEHL&java_vm=sun&java_vm_ver=1.6.0_15
"Pawson is a part of fisher's circle". Is that your opinion or do you have hard evidence for your statement? If you have hard evidence, you need to show it. If your hard evidence is one entry in one PR, then I remember something in an old proverb about making mountains out of molehills.
On this board so much personal opinion passes for hard facts.