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looks like mms are running low on shares :)
havent found anything about share holders yet but these docs.are SOOOOOOOOOOOO long !!!
.....could use some help here .....
k thanks
here was the result of that auction they had in oct.
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0711079/0711079071114000000000001.pdf
starts on page 6
once again , to those wiser than i in these matters, what does it mean ?
you can find all kinds of legal filings here, took some searching but i got some info . Including a filing today....but i dont think it xplains the price drop...?
anybody know more details ? Anyways just getting started on the reading here.
please , share ur insights. ( i am not invested in this ...yet ...ever ? )
http://www.kccllc.net/Docket/SearchResults.asp
this document(invoice) from hmbn's lawyers is interesting, especially when you get to the exhibit sect. Maybe a lawyer can help us
out.http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0711079/0711079071116000000000001.pdf
would appreciate it brodie/eom
ok, thancks mike, appreciate the heads up.
ok mike, what are we lookin at ?
lmao !! great pic boca. eom
also , if they didnt pay offf that ''stock loan" for 116, 666 last oct...then 13 580 170 would have become free trading. That may xplain some of the sell off we saw last week ?
BEST NEWS OF ALL : The co.spend a whoping 4600 on web development ....at least they are throwing $ at it finally
notice they spend 0 on r&d in the last 3 months...maybe this software Is ready to go ...?
the float hasnt changed since last qrtr...does that mean the 70 million shares increase , were restricted ?
personally , i find it hard to believe that management just let a trding software , with those kinda wins , sit idle all this time.
trader how long does it take createa track record couple of quarters ,more . ?
Your right though, with no updates on swarm performance , it's impossible to tell exactly what we have here.
by the way one of the "strange " things about my conversation with OQ, started right from the start......
Buddy answered the phone with ..."hello !?!". ..."
right then , i knew ,this wasnt gonna be a professional conversation.
My reply ..." sorry , i may have the wrong #, is this omniquant ?"
answer.." yes , this is omniquant,...."
and it went on from there.
I am reading my last post, with one eye closed, woundering if it makes any sense. If no , sorry for wasting ur timme.
bah !, people worry too much about spooztoolz. If it's as good as strick says (and we all think it is), Hardly any brokerage houses will carry it anyways.
Why would they ? Cant have winning trades on both sides all the time ! Besides it's too cheap and they sell their own trading software for more than the kick back theyd get from selling spooz anyways.
Also beeing so "disruptive" it may be a real concern to their livelyhoods.
Nah , the value in owning spooz stock , is 120 million shares of Swarm ( sorry, 141 capital) that we, through the co. , own.
IF it's really 40% ( Thats not too outrageous 30-40 %) we are laughing , long term.
When 141 proves it's mettle , and 141 pps reflects that, then we will be piggy backing on that pps, but....
.... when peeps understand that 141 capital, and it's succest, is based on spooz software then, and only then ,will spooz stand on it's own .
I mean, with spooztoolz and the right add ons, you can get 87% of swarms(141 capiatl) capabilities. Can someone with average math skills (which i dont have) tell me what 87% of 95% succestful trades would be?
The product will sell itself .through word of mouth and, more importantly , the daily trade record of 141 capital. http://www.141capital.com/ ...by the way i cant believe they are gonna update DAILY ! Not weekly or monthly or even quarterly , but daily. That shows some enthusiasm dont you think ?
When that happens ppl will DEMAND spooztoolz , if they cant get it through their brokers then they will buy it off spooz direct. finally the brokerage houses will have no choice but to cave to their clients demands... this will all take a lil time , more than i wished for, but the payoff might be huge.
Of course part of the joy and risk of investing in stinky pinkies is finding the rough diamond. Have we found one here? I think so....time will tell.
P.s i called oq last week ,tuesday or wednesday actually, and they still had a relationship with spooz at that time. I admit it was a strange conversation ,you gotta hit em hard and fast in those kinda calls.
by the way as an aside to diabolic , who brouhgt this oq thing up months ago,... what was the other link you posted after the financials came out? I believe it was another co. which oq got their software from....this might xplain pauls reference about not having to relly on oq for their middle ware.
Sorry but i'm getting lazy diabolic, + the whiskeys are kickin in , so i will not dig it up right now...
remember this is JUST MY OPINION !!! Do ur own dd, corroberate or correct me, either way, please share your dd . If you can. tia
as a sign of brotherhood to the guild ,i will write no more, for now
ur right , if this goes to a buck 2day i'm flipping it : )
interesting stand off between bid and ask today...only one mm at 006 left then 015, well for now anyways. Some good news here at noon then POW ! jmo
Quote:
MM on Bid : 4
MM on Ask : 4
MM ID Bid Size Time
ETRD 0.0045 100 08:57:09
HILL 0.0045 100 06:50:40
NITE 0.0040 100 06:52:49
DOMS 0.0000 100 10:10:46
MM ID Ask Size Time
ETRD 0.0000 -1 08:57:09
DOMS 0.0000 -1 10:10:46
NITE 0.0060 100 06:52:49
HILL 0.0150 100 06:50:40
yeah , they sure dont keep that board up at all.
I spend a coupla days on it some months back. Thinking maybe it was some kinda of incription or code . i would break it and see how the spooz developers were doin...LMAO !!
Anyways i joined the site and sent emails but never got anything back. To make matters worst all the links go to videos to which i could never find a decoder !!
BTW, the discussion forum at Ominquant is full of pornographic topics (I didn't open up any of the links
they dont lead to anything ; (
say lurkers, has EI PRed anything about which MM is sponsoring their uplist ? I took a quick glance at the ibox ,on the etim board, and didnt see anything.
tia and gtla
unfortunately my fone died before the end of the conversation. I had many more questions , but was too embarassed to call back :/ ....so no parties for me. Maybe next time.
LOL, what do those articles say janice ?
thanx birdito, but lets not forget Tradernation. , who had just as much to do with this as i had.
isnt 100 somekinfd of MM code ? Anybody know? ther were several near the end of the day.
0.006 100 OTO 15:51:33
0.005 100 OTO 15:51:33
0.0045 103000 OTO 15:43:19
0.005 100 OTO 14:45:18
0.006 100 OTO 14:45:18
0.0045 10000 OTO 12:16:17
0.005 10000 OTO 12:16:16
0.005 386363 OTO 12:16:15
0.005 250000 OTO 12:13:45
0.005 2363637 OTO 12:09:04
0.005 1000000 OTO 11:26:03
0.0045 250000 OTO 10:28:19
0.0045 190000 OTO 10:09:46
0.0045 250000 OTO 10:09:42
0.0045 77000 OTO 09:47:17
0.0045 180000 OTO 09:47:09
0.0045 70000 OTO 09:37:54
0.005 30000 OTO 09:30:06
0.005 636363 OTO 09:30:03
yeah thats the one i called today and they have an office in jersey too.
I would like to thanck trader nation for helping me with this post today
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here is a rough discribtion of my conversation with the kauderer group today.......
I just hung up with one of the Investment Analyst at The Kauderer Group and from our very lengthy conversation, this is what Mr. Singleterry told me.
How Spooz came to sam kauderer's attention . BUt 1st a little history. Sam is the patriarch of the familly, originally from the province of Rumania when it was owned by Austria. Sam Kauderer assisted his family in the original Kauderer growth before World War II.
The Gruppe began with Sam's Grandfather over 150 years ago with the largest Transportation service in Austria. The gruppe was an early investor in the automotive industry.
By WWII the family was worth hundreds of millions . During the war , the family lost everything to the nazis, beeing jewish they were send to concentration camps.
They survived WW2 and the Kauderers migrated to Israel and America to start over.
Sam Kauderer is a self made millionaire who started Kings International Trade. He took over The newly started Kauderer group from a troubled son ,who they dont talk about.
. Eli, another son and his wife took over from sam some years back and the co. grew
. Eli left and moved into Institutional Real estate ,his real passion.
.Danielle Kauderer took over. She befriended errol stone( something to do with their children in similar schools) some years back . Through this frienship, Sam Kauderer and Errol Stone became friends.
.The firm has been with SPOOZ ever since.
.Sam and the whole familly are sold on spooz and 141 capital. They have big connections to international $$$$$$ . For example, Eli's uncle was the president of the Bank of Milan and their family is very big in finance in Italy and Zurich and have 100s of million of spooz shares
- they are paying for 141 capitals listing and supplying $ to the co. here and in Germany.
-they believeve this should be and probably will be an AMEX company
-they believe that Errol and Paul will make this into a billion dollar company,
- hedge fund was mentioned in the conversation as well
there was more but in solidarity with the guild writers association , i refuse to write ANY more !!
remember do ur own dd. If you call the group , i think, you will find them very forthcoming.
-please share ur information , if possible
thanx again tradernation
ouch !
Dammit , i thought with the official pr on xxis errol stone could clarify the share stucture at this time . Is it 7 million or 266000. But he didnt know . And ,i believe, he truely ddnt know.!
he also mentioned that the pr may have been a lil premature, but more news out in a coupla days...again :)
news out
Nov 05, 2007 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX News Network) --
XXIS Corp. doing business as 141 Capital, Inc. (Pinksheets: (XXIS) is pleased to announce that at a special meeting of shareholders held on October 2, 2007, at the offices of Qwoter.com, the Company's temporary Board of Directors elected a new Board of Directors and Chief Executive Officer.
Qwoter.com provided shareholders notice of the meeting on September 20, 2007. To decrease the expense of holding an "On-Site" shareholders' meeting, and as a convenience to the shareholders wishing to participate in the Special Shareholder Meeting. This provided shareholder the opportunity to participate in the telephonic meeting at no cost.
Within the next few weeks, XXIS will file an amendment to its Certificate of Incorporation to officially change its name to "141 Capital, Inc." It will retain the symbol "XXIS".
XXIS Corp. is pleased to announce that it has appointed Errol Stone to the Company's Board of Directors. He also has been elected Chief Executive Officer.
About Errol Stone
Prior to being elected Chief Executive Officer of the Company, Mr. Stone was a founder, and has served as a director, Chief Operating Officer and then Executive Vice President and Secretary of Spooz, Inc. (SPZI.PK) for over six years. While at Spooz, Mr. Stone was responsible for administration and coordinated all legal, financial and securities matters, including responsibilities as principal for an NFA registered Introducing Broker and Commodity Trading Advisor. He was instrumental in finding and implementing funding for Spooz, developing strategic partnerships, establishing industry contacts and was involved in all aspects of its day-to-day operations.
Prior to joining Spooz, Mr. Stone was a Vice President of JumpStart Revenue, Inc. with responsibility for operations and professional sales. Throughout his career, he has worked with senior executive from start-up through exit strategy, organizational development, operations management, strategic planning, funding and compensation. He was a senior attorney at the Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington, DC; practiced securities, corporate and real estate law; and was a Senior Counsel at Bank of America. Mr. Stone received his undergraduate degree from Tufts University and his Jurist Doctorate from Boston University School of Law.
i'll try em again after lunch, but i'm gonna be embarased ;/
AAAAAArgggggh !!!!! I was having a terrific , exciting, Mind blowing conversation with someone at the Kauderer group...and my phone died on me ...now i cant get through again ;(
ask looks pretty thin...
dealyed l2s...
LAMP 0.0000 -1 10:05:00
FANC 0.0000 100 15:49:38
UBSS 0.0050 1 11:01:35
NITE 0.0070 100 10:01:20
SALI 0.0100 100 11:36:30
HILL 0.0150 100 10:09:58
yep, like allstocks, time will tell. Thnx for addressing my questions and have a green day ;)
I dot know if it is anyones business on a forum what I was told
Good thing i didnt ask YOU then .
do u thin this co. is tryin to go private at this stage ?
by the way the stocks trading at 034 and opened at 028, as i type.
Catastros, could you elaborate on this sentence for the board ?
I can tell you, when Danielle Kauderer gave me a list of her deals, I went out and bought the shares.
What were the deals? I'm sure they couldn't have been confidential as it was a puplic forum and didnt prevent you from buyin shares..
thank you for sharing with us
oops, i was just getting coughtt up to the board. Hadn't come to the part where this adressed . thnx
is this based on net or gross. i just want to point out that the 80% figure ,according to paul's answer, is Gross return. But maybe that doesnt matter for this equation ?
thanx hank. eom
holy ! , fellows i feel for you. Just woundering ...Has anyone here tried to sell at market price? if so what were the MMs buying at?
Please believe me, I am not trying to bash here , just trying to learn.
tia