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knowles,
Gosh Golly Gee..... a four page spread on Jones Exhaust and absolutely NO MENTION of Aero
Where's the beef?????
Gosh Golly Gee fourkids,
The article on page 2 looks just like a copy of the Aero PR and nothing more. This 'sample digest' was published in Feb, 2009 and the show was at the end of March.
So I ask you the question again..... from your <channel checks> (which I believe you said you were going to make the calls) just how many Aero mufflers did Henschel or Jones sell at the show???
Agent.....
"You could
see where Aero was headed once they hooked up
with Javelin Advisory, Steven Peacock, and Andrew
Beyer..."
You forgot the infamous Shane Traveller, who by the way may be still around.
broadway10,
I think you will find it was a result of Aero's severely declining sales, only $63,332 in the latest Q, that could in no way support all those expenses.
That's also why there aren't 5 employees and 6 contractors there also, salaries of only $34,613 for the lastest Q
anatnom5,
Three years and the same people have been predicting the same things for Aero ... massive NSS, MOASS, profitability, major sales increases, turbos, superchargers, cold air intakes, ad infinatum .....sheeesh...why can that continue to happen here?
None EVER happened...... nor will they!
fourkids,
The purpose of a reverse split will be to MAXIMIZE the number of shares available for Hunsaker to CONtinue to issue for debt, lawsuit settlements, etc, ........ that's if Hunsaker is still around.
fourkids,
The reverse split will occur when Hunsaker runs up against the share limit, which won't take too much longer. The reverse split will, imo, be a massive one. That's the only way that Hunsaker can CONtinue the game.
fourkids,
And I'm VERY confident in the DD I've done on Aero that you are going to significantly regret what is to come in the very near future.
fourkids,
"but as i've posted .. let's get the acq 8k'd
*first*" re: Aero/Jones
If I were you I definitely would NOT hold my breath on when the acquisition gets done......if ever.
fourkids,
The reverse split will occur when Hunsaker runs up against the share limit, which won't take too much longer. The reverse split will, imo, be a massive one, kinda like one of your favorites did. That's the only way that Hunsaker can CONtinue the game.
knowles,
Time to get your facts straight........
"It is a plea bargain, by the same prosecutor in the very city where Hunsaker was charged and that case was tossed out like the charge against Hunsaker!"
The charges against Hunsaker have NOT been tossed out. Hunsaker's pretrial hearing is April 13, 2009.
"Looks like to me the the prosecutor in Salt Lake City is not interested in convicting those who are upstanding citizens of the community."
The case is City of Draper vs. Hunsaker, Bryan R.
And, "upstanding citizens of the community" do NOT get arrested for the following:
MA - THREAT/USE OF DANGEROUS WEAPON IN FIGHT - 11/15/08
MB - THREAT AGAINST LIFE/PROPERTY - 11/15/08
Wrong again knowles,
Hunsaker was charged with a Class A Misdemeanor and a Class B Misdemeanor. Notice it does NOT say 'or' but does say 'and'
"There are three categories of misdemeanors in Utah. Class A misdemeanors are punishable by up to 1 year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Class B misdemeanors are punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. The punishment for Class C misdemeanors is up to 90 days in jail and a fine of up to $750."
The schedule of fines was changed in Jan 2009 so the $ fines increase.
http://www.sentencing.state.ut.us/FAQ.html
fourkids,
One has to <make the calls>
ROTFLMAO
fourkids,
"if that *happens* ~ and *me* not knowing what is behind
the *charges* .. i would fully expect a counter suit
to commence"
One does NOT file a countersuit on CRIMINAL charges.
But you knew that!!!!!
It has NOTHING to do with the NASCAR lawsuit.
knowles,
"and now you have insinuated that the CEO is going to be indicted"
Seems to me I remember you posting that the charges against Bryan Reuel Hunsaker were dropped. Hmmmmmm.........
Looks like Bryan Reuel Hunsaker's previous pre-trial was posponed to April 13, 2009....
3RD DIST. COURT - WEST JORDAN
ROBERT ADKINS April 13, 2009
WJ Courtroom 36 Monday
08:30 AM PRETRIAL CONFERENCE DRA 081402981 Other Misdemeanor
DRAPER CITY ATTY:
VS.
HUNSAKER, BRYAN R ATTY: NAKAMURA, BLAKE A
OTN: DOB: 02/28/1972
MA - THREAT/USE OF DANGEROUS WEAPON IN FIGHT - 11/15/08
MB - THREAT AGAINST LIFE/PROPERTY - 11/15/08
And knowing what is behind the charges, I fully expect he will be bound over for trial.
fourkids,
"god knows we wouldn't want any
*intentional misleading* info
here related to aero/aerp"
Yeah, like 1.6 bil shares naked short!!!!!!!
Looks like Aero's patent is outdated......again... by an improved design........
PIETO TURBORAMJET ENGINE COOLER AND MUFFLER.
United States Patent 7,490,467
Cummings February 17, 2009
Inventors: Cummings; Craig D. (Park City, UT)
Appl. No.: 11/035,487
Filed: January 15, 2005
It cites the Aero patent as 'prior art'
Courtesy bayou610....
"I wonder what the "Note owed to a Corporation" refers to ....perhaps Aero STILL owes money to Quantum Micronx??......And did I see that the original inventor of the AeroTurbine has RECENTLY received a patent(#7490467) that cites the Aero Patent)?.....Hey, isn't Craig Cummings the owner of Quantum Micronx and isn't he the inventor in question?"
Looks like the same Craig D. Cummings to me....
Quantum Micronx
2522 Larkspur
Park City, UT (Utah) 84060-7055.
Phone: (435) 615- 1551.
Craig D Cummings
home
2522 Larkspur Dr
Park City, UT 84060-7055
(435) 615-1552
knowles,
"In layman's terms so that you may more easily understand, restricted securities that are purchased have a holding period of six months because AERO is a reporting company and the clock does not start until the restricted shares are fully paid for."
In the case of a loan to the company that is settled in shares, those shares would have been paid for on the date of the loan.... even though they may not have been transferred until a later date. In this case the six month clock starts ticking from the day of the loan.
And we all know that the outstanding loans to Aero that are all in default are quite old, over six months old.
Reseller Mike,
And if the transfer agent were not GAGGED, we could all find out Monday just how many NEW shares were added today with one simple phone call.
NeedGreen,
The Rule 144 restrictions that were placed on some of the stock issued could have been lifted the day after these shares were given out and they are most probably already in the market. But, being as we have a GAGGED transfer agent we won't know until the next filing.
The Rule 144 restriction time clock starts from the time the debt was incurred.... NOT when the shares are issued.
stocky30...
PERFORMANCE EXHAUST PRODUCTS, LLC Limited Liability Company Unknown Active
Business Name: PERFORMANCE EXHAUST PRODUCTS, LLC
Entity Number: 7280427-0160
Registration Date: 02/26/2009
State of Origin:
Address
Unknown, NA 00000
Status
Status: Active
Status Description: Good Standing
This Status Date: 02/26/2009
Last Renewed: N/A
License Type: LLC - Domestic
Delinquent Date: 02/26/2010
Registered Agent
Registered Agent: DAVID K RICHARDS
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Address Line 1: 3488 S LITTLE FARM LN
Address Line 2:
City: Salt Lake City
State: UT
Zip: 84109
Additional Information
Duration Time: 30
NAICS Code: 4413
NAICS Title: 4413-Automotive Parts, Accessories, and
Looks like Bryan Reuel Hunsaker's previous pre-trial was posponed to April 13, 2009....
3RD DIST. COURT - WEST JORDAN
ROBERT ADKINS April 13, 2009
WJ Courtroom 36 Monday
08:30 AM PRETRIAL CONFERENCE DRA 081402981 Other Misdemeanor
DRAPER CITY ATTY:
VS.
HUNSAKER, BRYAN R ATTY: NAKAMURA, BLAKE A
OTN: DOB: 02/28/1972
MA - THREAT/USE OF DANGEROUS WEAPON IN FIGHT - 11/15/08
MB - THREAT AGAINST LIFE/PROPERTY - 11/15/08
fourkids,
So how many Aero mufflers did Henschel and Jones sell at the show??? Thought you were checking that out with your phone calls and <channel checks>.
EarnestDD,
One problem here is the circuit court where the NASCAR suit is going on might not like the stripping of assets from TTR HP to hide them from any possible judgment. Also, bankruptcy courts also take a dim view of this practice.
fourkids,
"i don't see
bryan hunsaker or david richards
asking anyone to buy one share"
However, Hunsaker sure has made well over 1 billion shares *available* for purchase.
fourkids,
"how do you know the first merger
isn't close to being consummated?"
Show us the money fourkids.... all $3.1 mil.
"have you talked with landreth
or hunsaker?"
Have you????
"do you know if/that jones' 4th q no.s have
been audited"
And just where is Aero getting the money to do the Jones audits - 3 years worth?????
" btw ... many of aero's original sor are in law
enforcement ~ they are an excellent source of info ~"
So what??? They'll also be SOL like the rest of the SOR
hostastock
1st merger isn't even close to being consummated.
1 Aero turbo coming to a store near you. What a wet dream!!!
And with today's revelations re: Richards and HIS new company ---- Performance Exhaust Products, LLC --- makes a bankruptcy of TTR HP a VERY REAL scenario.
Agent,
And those who are waiting for *clarification* of the <true valuation> of Aero aren't going to be very happy with the results.
Where's the beef???
fourkids,
"sorry but ~ the absurdity of either
hunsaker or richards doing that to
their *friends and neighbors* ~ <oh
and not a rent a cop ~ amongst them>
defies belief ~ it really does help
to *chat* with some of their original
sor ~ ... sigh ..."
Sorry fourkids no absurdity at all, operating a business is NOT a benovalent act to 'help people'.
The officers of the corporation have a fiduciary duty, and, if that company is forced into a financially untenable sitaution where they are sued for non-payment, lose the suit, cannot pay the judgment ---- then what options do they have but to file a bankrupcy.
There really is no choice in the matter. They will save their skin first and foremost.
And in that case, the SOR will be SOL.
Agent,
If a bankrupcy if filed by TTR-HP I would think that leaves Aero Performance Products (AERP) as an empty shell (with 2.6 bil shares outstanding).
The company --- TTR-HP (dba Aero Exhaust) is the only asset of Aero Performance Products (AERP) and those assets are tied up by Richards, who now has his own little company --- Performance Exhaust Products, LLC.
It sure appears that the NASCAR lawsuit against TTR HP is for a BIG chunk of change and will probably force TTR HP to file for bankrupcy as they would have no means of paying this settlement on top of all the others and all other notes past due.
If this is the way it plays out which appears likely, there will be quite a few big bag holders here.
bag8ger,
And this is the same Bryan Reuel Hunsaker, whose 'outstanding character' got himself arrested on a weapons violation charge in a fight.
ROTFLMAO
gee fourkids,
Sure does appear that Richards is preparing to transfer all of Aero's assets (per his UCC) into HIS new company.......
Performance Exhaust Products, LLC
Well it sure looks like where this is headed....
Courtesy of bayou610:
"*Golly* Gosh *Gee*......David K Richards is the REGISTERED AGENT for a UTAH Corporation created on 2/26/2009.......the name of the Corporation........PERFORMANC EXHAUST PRODUCTS,LLC"
Looks like Richards may have had enough of not getting paid on his note.
fourkids,
"aero doesn't have sales reps"
What ever happened to Aero's 'National' sales manager and the 2 'regional' sales managers
ROTFLMAO
Funny thing.......Aero was NOT mentioned in that complaint
Agent,
The report from bigEZfor3 is for all intents and purposes totally confirmed by Aero's financials where salaries are shown to be $34,613 in the last reported quarter. Take out Hunsaker's salary and it doesn't leave much of anything for anyone else.
Where's the beef????
Remember this...........
"Aero plans to announce details of its investment banking relationship in the next several days."
And here we are 12 weeks later and no details have been announced.
Where's the beef?????
fourkids,
The NASCAR lawsuit against Aero is the important one now.
fourkids,
"what'cha think ronning? .. i'd say aero is about
due for a few new products .. and what about jones?"
Why, Aero can't even sell their current product lineup let alone 'new products'. That is shown by the financials ------ $63,332 in the last reported quarter.
As for Jones, doubt the deal will materialize.
fourkids,
Any reports back from the Showpower Expo 2009????
Inquiring minds want to know.