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NoLimit, that came out of nowhere. Honestly, I am confused. where is this info coming from? How are you getting this?
I thought things were progressing just fine. Am I naive or just plan ignorant of something staring me in the face.
Ken reminds me of some of the Red Sox players who didn't man up and grind out when the team needed them. So insteaqd the team COLLAPSES like no other team in sports history.
Reason - they didn't man up and blamed everyone else for their predicament.
Guess what Ken, you put us and yourself in this predicament. Instead of blaming us longs for looking for solutions and answers, look in the mirror. Remember we are the shareholders. We supported you. Not the other way around.
It's time to come to the plate and deliver.
I have emailed Ken multiple times in the past few weeks asking for him to break his silence and at least just post to give us something. Never responded.
The silence is killing this stock. Leads to too much spec.. His reluctance to tell us what is going on is almost childish. He is acting like a petulant little kid.
He needs to man up and give us the info we want - whether good or bad. Act like an adult. Admit you made a mistake or whatever and lets get on with a plan. Divulge the plan - good, bad or indifferent, but communicate.
Silence is not golden here. I can deal with a merger, a R/S or whatever, but at least let me make the decision based on some facts. This is absurd.
Where do you see earnings for the quarter? Announcement on Oct 27/28?
All I said was it wasn't his/hers.
My eyes are wide open. I know most of the longs. We are OK with the DD we have done. Hasn't yielded much to this point, but I don't need all of you to tell me what I should or should not do.
Your input was valuable at one point, but the continuing repeat gets old.
Need new material. You may get it. We shall see.
All you are doing is "perfuming" the pig. This thing has done nothing but move down, even on "good" news.
we will be in the trips pretty soon.
Don't understand why everyone continues to pretend this is all ok. everyone should be mad as hell.
Just is absolutely right on. Why don't some just admit that this isn't what you expected.
everyone keeps on saying "buy cheapies". Why don't you wait a little longer they will be "REAL CHEAP".
Just, you the man for calling it like it is.
Oh, I agree 100%. Just trying to gauge momentum and how the WW members react to a new product.
My wife and daughter are on WW and they both like Salmon. Trick is to get ALL WW folks to buy, so we should not be limited just to WW members on line. My wife does nothing on line but the meetings are where the action is. Only takes one person in the group to mention it.
Herd mentality at it's finest.
Few as in dozens or leass than 10?
Just trying to get a handle of efficacy of day 1.
Please do. The add looks great. Now all we need is a little traction.
No mention of Fong or at least I didn't seeit!
SKEPTIC, that is an UNDERSTATEMENT!
Ed, has WW given any indication of what you can expect based on past history.
We have all speculated on the % hits etc., but thought that maybe WW has set some expectaions on the front end.
I try to email him every couple of weeks. Sometimes he answers and sometimes not.
However, I cannot for the life of me understand why the silence. Say something. Even if he says you guys are a PIA and I will release information when something happens or there is nothing new. Fine.
BUT SAY SOMETHING.
My last email asked him if he was going to get a deal with the box stores for Christmas, since the SELLING season has already started. Never answered that one.
It was me who posted the no news thing. I have sent an email today basically telling him he has punished his children enough. Break the silence and tell us what is going on.
I will post if he replies.
Paulie, great cartoon.
Agreed. The slience is deafening.
Still waiting for the KABOOM here. So far NADA.
All I see and hear is positive talk - WITH NO ACTIONS from the company.
Absolutely hysterical. Just can,t seem to give mdgc their do. Man you are tough.
weight watchers members are like sheep. They follow the crowd. If the smoked salmon is as good as advertised - mine hasn't arrived yet - the word will spread like crazy and the expansion needed will be sooner not later. Forget about the other lines, this WW deal could be a real big winner.
The members are always looking for something nutritious and yet small on the WW point scale.
There are 3 in my house on it and 6 at work. We only have 17 employees.
This could be a game changer for the SP.
Wonderful post - Amen to that.
meant is pretty crowded. we need something and soon. Christmas stocking starts in Oct. We need the RR in the stores - FOR SALE.
that boat isn pretty crowded. Wonder how long it will be.
Who would sell at these prices and who would buy on a whim after reading the board.
Not surprising at all.
token position - I will decide when it is my time to sell.
Everyone's postings seem to bear out your message. I just don't trust these folks as implicitly as others. It's about them and we are along for the ride. I just hope it's a profitable one.
BTW - I never expected Fong to stay. This was his exit strategy and he had NO interest in running this company at 75. Also Tom Tolland doesn't strike me as someone who would give up control to someone else. Not a stretch at all.
Fong made his deal, got out with some money and stock and is now free to go do it again.
I always get a little jittery when everyone tells me not to worry. Generally means worry like hell.
We shall see. I think we willm know very soon.
So, can they R/S in the future with this set up??
If not fine, other wise just a caution flag. That's it.
I understand that and get that. Still a concern, that's all. Don't want to see a R/S of like 50 to 1, once they get on their feet.
Jude, I do understand the set up and the connections that Surg has made. It's the A/S that has me skeptical. That's it. They can dilute or do R/S anytime.
None of it will matter if their contracts come to fruition, but that has to happen. Rememebr their competiton aren't fly by nights and are not likely to be to fond of this upstart.
We shall see. Makes for interesting times.
Ugh!
Tired of these looong term things. They just never seem to pan out. But WTH, we hold and see what happens.
Ok, now you really got my blood going. I am so ticked off that we missed the BTS AGAIN. That was a 350K unit missed opportuntiy. The retail is over 3.5 Million in sales we missed.
You are hitting below the belt on that one. I won't sleep tonight thinking on that one.
Clever, no tears at all. My ave is less than .002, so yeah, a nice tidy profit. Problem is based on all the data, could have been a killing; a stock for the ages.
I'll take a little profit knowing that I missed the big one because of mis-management. Story of my life.
There is still hope, but looks less and less everyday.
I have set my expectations a lot lower than before. I got all starry eyed and goose bumps with the prospect of GRAF IPO, M&A's etc.
Now, all I want is to get out at a few pennies and run for the hills.
So disappointing. This one had all the potential in the world. Great product, cheap mfg costs and a great distr. opportunity.
It's really hard to screw this up, but boy it's happening. Still hopeful, but less likely to stick it out long term. Too much BS.
I Agree. I would rather news when it is time, than empty promises or setting high expectations and then not delivering.
To me I would rather wait and judge the news as it happens. False hope is not good in this situation. Leads to distrust and credibility issues.
RR is still selling and who knows what is going on with Turbo Trainz etc. In the end, revenue/profit will speak volumes.
Company structure is an issue, but let's see how it plays out.
At the risk of getting fried by all the longs, I rec'd an email from Ken last night. I essentially asked why no communication since forever. His response is below.
When there is news, I'll supply it. Right
now nothing has changed from last
time.
We are still working on everything.
Ken
So please don't shoot the messengfer. Just thought you should know.
I treat a CEO like I would the Prsident. I respect the title/office and his job is not to take calls from me, but to spend his time executing "the plan".
Maybe more should respect his time and stop calling him. The fact that he answers is great, but his time is better served with more pressing items than to talk to me or anyone else about their concerns.
he performs - concerns go away.
Sorry, just don't agree that a CEO s/b burdened by this type of approach.
It's not whining - it's setting expectations and missing deadlines.
Get real.
I believe the MDGC longs are close to an "I told you so moment".
When it comes - we will post it for all of the disbelievers.
Go MDGC.
Reasonable thought process. My issue is pretty simple.
You meet commitments. In business, your word is all you have. You don't put deadlines unless you intend to meet them. This is the second time in 4 months he has missed the date.
If you set a date, you hit the date or tell people you won't and why. No communication on the miss is an issue for me.
Surg is a good company with real products and real revenue. They want the shell to go public cheaply. Not an issue.
Issue is Fong missed againn and we are sitting waiting while everyone on this board is hyping the hell out it. You lose your own credibility doing that.
Let the chips fall where they may and wait for Fong to get off his butt and tell us what is going on.
All this specualtion is just drivel.