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AMEN,
BUT ALWAYS FOR A TASK.
NOT REPENTANCE FOR OTHERS.
GOD HAS PREDESTINED A DIVINE APPOINTMENT FOR EACH AND EVERYONE OF HIS CREATION.
WE CAN TURN 180 AND RECEIVE IT AND WALK WITH HIM, OR CONTINUE ON THE PATH TO HELL (THE LAKE OF FIRE/2ND DEATH)......
SIMPLY BY DOING *NOTHING.
And there were some that had indignation....
yes, a key factor here like with Job.
When we associate with corruption we sooner or later will become as such our selves. Peer pressure call it.
Even though AT ONE TIME we walked hand in hand with the Lord.
The fear of the Lord (reverence etc,) does not stop after being bornagain. THAT IS WHERE IT BEGINS.
Predistination ...
FOR A TASK. ABSOLUTELY.
HOWEVER...FOR SALVATION-NEVER.
THE BIBLICAL GOD IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS- HIS IS FAIR, TO SAY THE LEAST, HE WILLS NONE PERISH BUT COME TO REPENTACE.
Jesus knew he was a thief in his heart and placed him position of treasurer for the disciples because this was the very thing that would either lead to Judas' repentence or his surrender to corruption, money.-qoute.
I think that is very well worded my friend.
Much to think about there no doubt.
God declares he give us life/death. Choose life.
Correct.
Hi all,
If my memory serves me right,
The bible says that a little leaven, wickedness will ruin the whole lump. Our souls. That if one eye is dark the whole body is.
When Marry poured out the $300 worth or so, of ointment for Jesus's feet, Judas(the one who carried the bag) said should not this $$$$ be given to the poor? instead of pouring it out on his feet?!!
His greed got the best of him.
I believe it says that FROM THAT DAY FORWARD HE SOUGHT TO BETRAY THE LORD.
The pharisees etc, where mererly willing to oblidge helping.
He had free will, but was TURNED OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND.
Hi excel and company,
Great ministry here. Godbless!
"Bailey`s Jesus"
God recently allowed me to see Jesus through the eyes of
someone seeing Him for the first time. Having the advantage of
knowing how the story ends, we can easily forget the cost of our
redemption and the love of our Savior.
Every year we attend a local church pageant which tells the
story of Jesus from His birth through His resurrection. It is
a spectacular event, with live animals and hundreds of cast
members in realistic costumes. The magi enter the huge
auditorium on llamas from the rear, descending the steps in
pomp and majesty. Roman soldiers look huge and menacing
in their costumes and makeup.
Of all the years we have attended, one stands out indelibly in
my heart. It was the year we took our then three-year-old
granddaughter, Bailey, who loves Jesus. She was mesmerized
throughout the entire play, not just watching, but involved as if
she were a player. She watches as Joseph and Mary travel to
the Inn and is thrilled when she sees the baby Jesus in His
mother's arms.
Later when Jesus, on a young donkey, descends the steps
from the back of the auditorium, depicting His triumphal entry into
Jerusalem, Bailey was ecstatic. As he neared our aisle, Bailey
began jumping up and down, screaming, "Jesus, Jesus! There's
Jesus!" Not just saying the words but exclaiming them with every
fiber of her being. She alternated between screaming his name
and hugging us. "It's Jesus. Look!" I thought she might actually
pass out.
Tears filled my eyes as I looked at Jesus through the eyes of a
child in love with Him, seeing Him for the first time. How like the
blind beggar screaming out in reckless abandon, "Jesus, Jesus!",
afraid he might miss Him, not caring what others thought. This
was so much fun.
Then came the arrest scene. On stage, the soldiers shoved
and slapped Jesus as they moved Him from the Garden of
Gethsemane to Pilate. Bailey responded as if she were in the
crowd of women, with terror and anger. "Stop it!" she screamed.
"Bad soldiers, stop it!" As I watched her reaction, I wished we
had talked to her before the play. "Bailey it's OK. They are just
pretending," but she shouted "They are hurting Jesus! Stop it!"
She stood in her seat reacting to each and every move. People
around us at first smiled at her reaction, thinking "How cute!".
Then they quit smiling and began watching her watch Him. In a
most powerful scene, the soldiers lead Jesus carrying the cross
down the steps of the auditorium from the back. They were
yelling, whipping, and cursing at Jesus, who was bloodied and
beaten. Bailey was now hysterical. "Stop it! Soldiers! Stop it,"
she screamed. She must have been wondering why all these
people did nothing. She then began to cry instead of scream.
"Jesus, Oh, Jesus!" People all around us began to weep as we
all watch this devoted little disciple see her Jesus beaten and
killed as those first century disciples had.
Now going back and forth between her mother's lap and mine
for comfort, she was distraught. I kept saying, "Bailey, it's OK.
Jesus is going to be OK.
These are just people pretending to be soldiers. She looked at
me like I was crazy. In my lap, we talked through the cross and
burial. "Watch, Bailey, watch for Jesus!"
The tomb began to tremble and lightening flashed as the stone
rolled away. A super bowl touchdown cheer couldn't come close
to matching this little one's reaction to the resurrection. "Jesus!
He's OK. Mommy, it's Jesus!" " It's Jesus!"
I prayed that she wasn't going to be traumatized by this event,
but that she would remember it. I shall never forget it. I shall
never forget seeing Jesus' suffering, crucifixion, and resurrection
through the eyes of an innocent child.
Following the pageant the actors all assembled in the foyer to
be greeted by the audience. As we passed by some of the
soldiers Bailey screamed out, "Bad soldier, don't you hurt
Jesus." The actor who portrayed Jesus was some distance away
surrounded by well-wishers and friends. Bailey broke away from
us and ran toward Him, wrapping herself around His legs, holding
on for dear life. He hugged her and said, "Jesus loves you." He
patted her to go away. She wouldn't let go. She kept clinging to
Him, laughing and calling His name. She wasn't about to let go
of her Jesus.
I think God in heaven stopped what ever was going on that day
and made all the angels watch Bailey. "Now, look there! You
see what I meant when I said; "LET THE LITTLE CHILDREN
COME TO ME, AND DO NOT HINDER THEM, FOR THE
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN BELONGS TO SUCH AS THESE."
Amen! ( MATTHEW 19:14 )
PAPPAJOHN POST.
( borrowed from E'Lane at SI's Daily Story Corner http://207.90.219.91/readmsg.aspx?msgid=23280261
"Sometimes, business decisions must be based not on economics,
but on what is right." ~ Ivan Howes
One word that is the centrality of the gospel.
RESURRECTION.
A long article I know. Worth reading though.
How Serious Is it to
Not Inherit the
Kingdom of God?
Dan Corner
[Permission is granted to duplicate this article in its entirety,
but only without additions, alterations or omissions of any kind,
including the author, ministry name and address at the end.]
The common Biblical phrase Kingdom of God can be used in more than one way. In this particular study we will focus in upon the seriousness of not inheriting it as mentioned in especially the following three key passages:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9,10, NASB).
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21).
For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them (Eph. 5:5-7).
Observation #1: It is the unrighteous who will not inherit the kingdom of God. They are also listed in 1 Cor. 6:9,10.
Observation #2: It is crystal clear that it is sin, and of the types cited above, that will cause one not to inherit the kingdom of God.
Observation #3: The danger of not inheriting the kingdom of God is something that can happen to Christians. Hence, Christians were given this type of warning repeatedly by Paul to keep them on their vital guard.
Question: Where do the unrighteous—the ones who do not inherit the kingdom of God—go?
Answer: Jesus answers this in one of his hell warnings:
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell (Mark 9:47).
NOTE: Jesus taught we either enter God’s kingdom or get thrown into hell. Elsewhere we learn that in Scripture, at times, the phrase kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven are used interchangeably (Mt. 13:11 cf. Mk. 4:11; Mt. 19:14 cf. Lk. 18:16; etc.). We can also safely deduce that entering God’s kingdom is the same as entering heaven, especially in light of the following passage:
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear (Mt. 13:41-43).
Hence, all who do evil will go to the fiery furnace while the righteous will be in the kingdom of their Father (God). This is significant especially with a past observation in mind, that is, the unrighteous who will not inherit the kingdom of God. In other words, the righteous are distinguished from those who do evil and they will be in the kingdom of God, while the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In Mt. 25, the Lord will speak to his sheep and say the following to them:
He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world” (Mt. 25:33,34).
In verse 37, those same sheep are called righteous. The only other group present go to eternal fire (Mt. 25:41) and everlasting punishment (Mt. 25:46). They are also the ones that are not Jesus’ sheep nor are they righteous. Furthermore, they do not inherit the kingdom.
Lovers of God
James wrote:
Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? (James 2:5)
Those who inherit God’s kingdom are the same as those who love God. Other Scriptures show if we love God we will obey God (John 14:15; 14:23,24; 1 John 5:3). Hence, those who love God won’t be committing the sins cited in 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; etc., but will instead be obeying him. Only such will inherit God’s kingdom and not go to hell’s fire.
To have an inheritance implies being an heir, which is what we become when we are made God’s son:
So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir (Gal. 4:7).
Hence, if you can lose your inheritance, then you can cease being God’s son, according to the Biblical evidence. Since that can happen, then there can be is no eternal security, as shown in many other ways throughout Scripture.
God From His Throne
In Revelation, we read the following:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death” (Rev 21:1-8).
There we learn what our inheritance will be, if we are numbered with the overcomers. That inheritance is shown to include:
● the new heaven
● the new earth
● the Holy City (New Jerusalem)
● dwelling with God
● being his people
● residing in an environment where there is no more death, mourning, crying or pain.
If one doesn’t inherit all that, he is thrown into the lake of fire (v. 8), which is where all the non-overcomers will go.
Please also note the overlap of sins mentioned in Rev. 21:8 and the sins cited in 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Gal. 5:19-21 and Eph. 5:5-7. Again, we observe that if one doesn’t inherit the kingdom of God he will be thrown into the lake of fire. This powerfully refutes the fallacious idea that we can enter God’s kingdom but not inherit it.
Jesus once answered a question about being saved by equating it to entering through the narrow door:
Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to” (Luke 13:23, 24).
The ones who don’t enter, as referred to in verse 24, didn’t put forth enough effort to get through the narrow doors into the kingdom. In our dark day, putting forth such an effort to refrain from sin is denounced as a works salvation, and those wisely obeying Jesus are often falsely accused of trying to save themselves. Such religious leaders and false accusers are savage wolves in sheep’s clothing and must be exposed and refuted for the sake of souls. To do so is acting in Christian love, not hate or intolerance. (See 1 Cor. 13:6.)
The Rich, Young Ruler
A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. You know the commandments: Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.” “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said. When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus replied, “What is impossible with men is possible with God." Peter said to him, “We have left all we had to follow you!” “I tell you the truth,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life” (Luke 18:18-30).
From all of that we observe: being saved = entering the kingdom of God = inheriting eternal life in the age to come. Again, notice how entering and inheriting are similarly used.
Summary
In summary, don’t let anyone deceive you regarding the seriousness of sins as cited in the initial three passages. Such sins can drag you to hell, even if you were previously born again. You must get the victory over them to be an overcomer and to inherit God’s paradise kingdom. You can do this with the help of God. See Rom. 8:13. If you are in such sins now, repent and come back to God. (He wants you back.) See also http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/spiritualdeath.htm
For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them (Eph. 5:5-7).
GOD BLESS YOU.
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hi orlander,
tradition is what gives a mouth piece to fanatical people-quote.
THAT IS WHY I WAS SURPRISE YOU<<< catagorized yourself.
as......a practicing jew.
For what purpose is this clarification/classification for?
Hi Ward,
but sin that dwelleth in me-qoute.
EXACTLY THE ISSUE HERE.
GOD IS PERFECT.
GOD TURNED HIS BACK ON THE SON AND COULD NOT LOOK AT SIN WHEN JESUS TOOK OUR SIN UPON HIM.
TO THINK THAT WE>>>CAN ENTER HEAVEN<<< "WITH SIN IN US"
GOD SAYS OTHERWISE.
HOWEVER.... WE HAVE AN ATTONEMENT FOR OUR SIN.
4GIVENESS BY *ASKING.
THIS IS WHY SUICIDE MORE THEN LIKELY A PERSON WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN.....BECAUSE ITS THE ONE SIN....that you cant ask for 4giveness AFTER you do it. Again, very straightforward logic.
God says satan is a lier and murderer from the beginning.
If A LIE, will cause us to MURDER our own selves.
ANY DOCRTINE that would promote it, (Not be against it) is not of the truth. John14:6 THINK IT *THROUGH.
continued..
otherswise we are like a jewish person or jw or_____?
WHO CLAIM THAT GOD IS A GOOD GOD ONLY.
THAT WE CANNOT LOOSE ANYTHING, THOUGH OUR ACTIONS REVEAL OUR HEART. (at least momentarily)
An eternal security saying is like this:
PRAISE GOD *AFTER you sin, why? because he is soooooo merciful and loving and has already forgiven me EVEN ALL MY FUTURE SINS.
And so..... we have an *attitude/ DOCRTINE that ALLOWS a person to *think only losing rewards here is the issue.
Ya right, this is the old have your pie and eat it to.
HAVE THE SEASON/LIFE TIME OF SIN CONTINUALLY *WITHOUT REPENTANCE (AFTER BEING BORN AGAIN) AND.....
STILL GO TO HEAVEN, WHILE being a stumbling example for those that may in up in hell?!! that is not right.
you practice and yet....
How is the ISSUE of 4giveness of SIN dealt with.
A person can clean the outside, but what of the inside.
Jesus said to be BORNAGAIN.
as the rich man said. I have done all these things since my youth up. AND YET. IT IS NOT ENOUGH, nor ever could be on our own.
You see ONCE SAVED ALWAYS IS FALSE, but so is WORKS *WITHOUT SALVATION/4GIVENESS.
WE do not earn our salvation.
God "gives" us the way to heaven. "CAR"
THE REASON WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT INSIDE is to "FILL UP" the tank.
God gives us the vehicle to get to heaven, but we have to do our part and put the FREE FUEL SUPPLY in, at least.
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Hi orlander_file,
So again,
what do you "do" to make you a practicing jew?
Jesus DID NOT give demons/UNSAVED people
POWER to be his spokesman.
Do you recall?
the pharasees made that claim upon Jesus himself.
calling him a devil, and he CASTS OUT DEMONS BY THE PRINCE OF THE DEVILS.
You just said thats exactly what JESUS DID THROUGH JUDAS.
**Please at least think about it, and go back in the gospels and you will see this very thing W.O.Monkey
Be blessed today my friend. =]
has no knowledge of Christ or has rejected him.-qoute.
that is 2 polar opposites.
God does not choose to send people to hell, we either KNOW and except or REJECT him.
so there are not 2 reasons for Judas.
Judas knew Jesus.
"I have betrayed INNOCENT blood".
Jesus gave the 12 (included Judas) all power on earth to heal the sick, cast out devils etc BY HIS SPIRIT/AUTHORITY.
HE DOES NOT CAST OUT DEVILS BY THE PRINCE OF DEVILS.
PHARACIES TALKED OF SUCH IDEAS ONLY.
OTHERWISE JESUS WOULD BE USING SOMEONE IN CONTRADICTION OF HIS OWN TEACHING, TO TEACH HIS OWN TEACHING? no.
"a house divided cannot stand"
God would not use/START WITH DIVISION AS 1 OF 12.
HOPE THIS IS LOGICAL.
TALK LATER, GOING FOR THE OPEN.
UDTT....BIG GAP UP right now. BLESSINGS! =)
gapping
EVANGELICALOUTREACH.ORG
Hi shark,
Why couldn't God have created other beings on other planets which did not fall? Of course, we don't know that but I've always thought it was an interesting possibility. -qoute.
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In Gods word he says that he died for mankind. (the first Adam), he being the 2nd.
All his creation is fallen cuz of man.
so.....all life froms with a soul/intelligence as such who do not return to the dust, but whos spirit returns back to the Father WOULD NEED A SAVIOR CORRECT?. YES.
TO SAY THERE ARE OTHER LIFEFORMS OUT THERE...IMPLIES "THEY" ARE BETTER THAN US, AND GOD HIMSELF.
WHY?
BECUASE GOD SAID ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME *SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
HOPE THIS LOGICALLY/SIMPILY MAKES SINCE??!! =)
IF response,
3 FACTORS.
1)SIN
2)JESUS/4GIVENESS
3)RESULT
Our sin is 4given when we ask for 4giveness.
IF WE SAY WE SIN NO MORE-THAN THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US.-Jesus.
1JOHN1:9
IF-we confess our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
So this says that: OUR sin IS (present tense) becomes- UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
we no longer are the "righteousness in God through Jesus"
but are in seperation from his Spirit.
Basically ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS LIKE SAYING
JESUS IS NOT GOD.
Judas WAS an apostle by Jesus(God)
AND YET HE WENT TO HELL.
Do people out there think that the JESUS gives an UNBELIEVER/NON CHRISTIAN the ability to: cast out demons, and preach the message of salvation????? no way.
Satan has his folk to that, but God(Jesus) does not CALL A PERSON TO HIM, TO PREACH AS HIS 1 OF 12 Apostles, to be a lying hypocrite and misrepresent His kingdom.
A dog CAN return to his vomit.
TO ALL....... check out EVANGELICALOUTREACH.ORG
*Briboy-I know you dont like discussing this, HOWEVER since you posted publically THE TOPIC, I am responding the same format. OK. =) Keep being a blessing my friend. =]
so you take a perverbial bite...
TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL THEN?
ADAM/EVE was given direct instruction (HIS WORDS) about what to do and not to do. SIMPLE.
WHEN *NEW doctrine (subtly of the devil) CREPT in, was allowed room to run, humanity was DEFEATED.
Its late, going to bed.
Godbless.
Hi W.O.Monkey,
If Jesus said it, then he meant it.
EVERYTIME you see an "if" in the bible...
that means just that.
IT IS CONDITIONAL.
1JOHN1:9
IF...we (BELIEVERS) <<<think about it, CONFESS our SINS (present/after Initial 4giveness) than he is faithful and just to 4give us our sin and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
This book was written as instuction TO THE BELIEVER long after John3:16
You see...the wages-of sin- never change.
only- the method of cleansing.
same as o/t.
The sacrifice now IS JESUS/yes. ONCE FOR ALL-DEATH THAT IS.
THE DIFFERENCE.
O/T still YEARLY had to attone for sins.
Today, our attonement is PAID through Jesus - BY OUR CONFESSION TO HIM, OUR ASKING.
To tell NON-believers THEY SIN...
and yet "now that we are believers"........our sin is no longer "SIN"?? THAT IS WRONG.
Here is what is happening when you claim ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED: You are denying the trinity. The God of the bible.
You ask how??? simple.
When any RELIGION/IDEA *REMOVES ANY<<< NEED, for the TRIUNE GODHEAD, there is a problem.
AND...THATS WHY THERE ARE SOOOOOOOO MANY DIFF DOCTRINES.
1)Calvinism= no need for Jesus-cuz God chose us first.
2)Oneness= no death on the cross-cuz if....there is only ONE God of the untrinity, than...How could Jesus raise from the dead??? The bible says the Father did so. Make since??
so oneness would have to admit Jesus never REALLY died, cuz if he did, hed still be.
3)ETERNAL SECURITY= no MEDIATOR. ONGOING.
NO NEED FOR FAITH/CHRISTIANITY/The Holy Spirit...which of course= blasphemy to say that.
ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED- Tells a BEliever he can TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND GO TO HEAVEN. -lie from satan.
or blaspheme AND BECOME A SATAN WORSHIPPER after genuine repentance and faith to the Lord.- lie from satan.
A LICENSE TO SIN.
REVELATION 21:8 **READ IT.
IT SAYS.....a whole list of sins AND THESE WILL GO TO THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH IS THE 2ND DEATH. ETERNALLY.
**READ IT.
it says "unbeliever"..... as only ONE "SIN-action" THAT WILL SEND A PERSON TO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
THINK ABOUT THAT EVERYONE.
*satans 1st lie was.....thou shalt not surely die!!!
did adam/eve die physically right away? no.
but spiritually? YES THEY DID.
you can be without sin/perfect and FALL FROM GRACE.
LUCIFER WAS A PERFECT ANGEL WITH FREEWILL AND HE CHOOSE TO SIN, AND TOOK 1/3 with him.... They were NOT once perfect/saved always so.
or the JEWS!!! THEY WERE GODS WIFE/PEOPLE FIRST.
AND THEY WERE CUT OFF!!! Id be fearful.
Not to mention God's final warnings are the last 3 verses in the bible. If it says you can be BLOTTED OUT...that declares you FIRST HAD TO BE WITHIN.
Serious things to consider.
All for now.
What does it profit a man to gain the whole GTEM, and loose your soul? silly goose.
You might detour people away with quacky comments like that.
lol.....be wise, be blessed, be good. =)
A friend.
Hi W.O.Monkey,
Thanks for the follow up question on that one.
That is well spoken.
Hi silver70
Great to see you here my friend.
The fact that you havent posted much, but did here... with a *good question-shows you care. =)
Godbless.
LOL- AFTER HOURS NEWS (UDTT)
Universal Detection Technology's CEO Purchases 100,000,000 Shares of Common Stock of Universal Detection Technology
LOS ANGELES, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 13, 2007 -- Universal Detection Technology (www.udetection.com) (OTCBB: UDTT), a developer of early-warning monitoring technologies to protect people from bioterrorism and a provider of counter-terrorism products and services, announced today that its CEO, Mr. Jacques Tizabi has acquired 100,000,000 common shares at a price of $.006 per share. The shares were acquired in exchange for the forgiveness of $600,000.00 in debt owed by the company to Mr. Tizabi. The share price represents a premium to the closing price of the shares at the end of last week.
"This will improve the company's balance sheet significantly and also add to management's ownership stake in the company. It also demonstrates my continued commitment to the company's future," said Jacques Tizabi, CEO of Universal Detection Technology.
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AMEN.
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I....wish I knew. lol
Use the 4444c.....Hey OBI- know the float?
Hi Ragin Cajun!
Awesome graphics my friend.
Join the fun here bro =)
mig is the main man around here.
WELL JESUS IS =) You know what I mean.
lol..
ya, the ABSENCE OF IT.
Again, to quote the bible- there will be time no more.
Hi risk
You are right, God used a donkey when man stopped listening.
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Again I'm just trying to make my point to you with what I believe is needed for the truth and it's not contained (fully) in the KJV.-qoute.
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EXACTLY THE ISSUE.
I AM ALL EARS RISK.
PLEASE TELL ME/US(others listening too =) )
*What we are "missing" from the bible.
THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.
EITHER FULL REVELATION IS ALREADY BEEN GIVING FOR US SO FAR AS WE NEED. OR........
WHAT ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT IS NEEDED FOR US TO KNOW?
I would enjoy this part of the discussion at hand truely.
BTW,
Thankyou all , for a great night so far.
I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THE WORD.
There is sooooo much corruption available for people, that I find it refreshing to be able to talk WITH people about ETERNITY
-BLESSINGS!
Also risk,
MY PERSONAL OPINION OUT OF CARE IS THIS...
SINCE, you mentioned you had been a catholic and then the Lord delivered you out of that system.
Wouldnt you truely consider everything that people said, concerning ETERNITY AND THE BIBLE? FROM THE BIBLE? I WOULD.
Think about it....
At one point, you believed (as a catholic, generally speaking)
that you could eat Jesus blood/body in the eucharist. That saying repetitive prayers in the rosary, and also to a man(priest) would do anything. Or _______? The list goes on and on.
Risk, I decided that if....i wanted to reach my unsaved friends, than I should at least understand their believes DIRECTLY FROM THIER TEACHINGS.
SO....I HAVE READ 100'S OF 1000'S of books since I have been Born again.
ALL I CAN SAY IS........TRY ME. (or mig, or others)
THAT IS TO SAY, I am not perfect by anymeans...but at least I care to listen to others and CHALLENGE THEM WITH ISSUES THAT MATTER.
All for the moment.
In the book of Daniel,
doesnt the ANTICHRIST attempt something like that? yep.
so.....i would not attribute that kinda thing to Jesus.
Here is the issue risk,
you as a NEW REVELATION (that is- one that can or listens to those that RECEIVE a new revelation(that which is 2ndary from the bible)
will listen to any voice possibly.
this is the warning Paul spoke of in galations.
EXAMPLE:
You/others are QUICKER to hear from a person "giving a message in an unknown language etc, than to heed the word itself.
That is to say........
YOU WOULD **NOT KNOW IF.......A MUSLIM, OR CATHOLIC, OR HINDU WAS **LITERALLY BLASPHEMING JESUS HIMSELF, because their pray language to our ears sounds THE SAME.
SO HERE YOU HAVE IT RISK.
YOU ARE MORE APT<<<<<TO LISTEN to unknown sounds or give them out, than to LISTEN/ALLOW A FEMALE(BELIEVER/CHILD OF GOD)
SPEAK A SALVATION<<<MESSAGE FROM THE BIBLE.
I PERSONALLY WOULD BE CONCERNED RISK.
SERIOUSLY, AND SINCERLY- one who cares.
enough to get you to think about it, at least.
I know God changes not.
The vale between the o/n testament was TORN DOWN.
We are to keep the whole law yes,
but to be 4given we are to become BORNAGAIN.
NOT OF OUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, BUT OUR FREEWILL.
THEN THROUGH OBEDIENCE OUT OF LOVE, DO WE INHERIT HIS ETERNAL PROMISES.
REV 21:8....for all who do not.